When Google went public only a small portion of outstanding shares were floated. Besides, don't they have a different share class structure. What I'm saying is that the IPO didn't cause this vote to turn out any different. The people who voted this resolution down are the same people who decided that their company would "do no evil". It is absolute bull shit for American companies to participate and aid China in their censorship efforts. There is absolutely no excuse.
I think you need to be careful anytime you recommend that people own a certain stock. A lot of the good news about AMD is already priced in to the stock. While I agree with you about their marketshare, and personally do own AMD stock, the best time to buy a stock does not necessarily equate to when all the good news is coming out.
I agree. I have a harder time convincing myself to invest in those huge companies. For a company to increase shareholder value it has to grow (vastly outweighs factors such as trimming costs). I believe huge companies can get to a critical mass at some point when it becomes increasingly difficult to add market share (esp. if you already have ~90%), meaning that the company has to make gambles in new markets it may not be as well versed in while also protecting its core products.
If they want to make an open source video codec, why don't they just support and help further develop the ogg video codec? Would the two codecs be so different that they are both needed?
It seems that tivo should be doing things to keep customers rather than drive them away. I view Tivo in a similar way as I view AOL's demise. It was a good idea at the start, but in the face of better cheaper technology proved to be an untenable business arangement... at least at the prices they are trying to charge. My friends cable company is about to install a dvr in place of their cable box as apart of their survice package (not sure if they're paying extra, although I don't think they are). This is most likely the future of this kind of service.
I am reporting the same strange behavior. I'm getting consistent 503 errors with FireFox, but have no problems with Internet Explorer. I find this somewhat ironic.
I had a conversation with a friend about this topic and we thought there might be a market for a gaming community based around it. something only for casual gamers. We didn't figure out exactly how it might work but it should be able to exclude people that become too good at a particular game, or spend over a certain number of hours per month or something. I really enjoy playing games online against other people, but it sucks if you have to invest x amount of hours to either get good enough, or build up a certain character to a decent level. I realize that some mechanisms are in place for this sort of thing, like ranking, etc, but i think that they are often inadequate.
I know how you feel. Whenever this topic gets brought up someone always mentions the xbox and it seems to get dismissed. You can get these on ebay for somewhere around $85 new. Mod it for free and fun, and it will be able to do this dvd player can and more. XBMC has become one of the most amazing open source projects as far as I'm concerned. Another project called X-Link has now been integrated into xbmc meaning it can function similarly to xbox-live, only for free. I use xbmc as my dashboard, so i turn on my xbox and it's all there, music, games, weather, movies, x-link, emulators... all with a really fantastic looking interface. I don't know why i feel the need to evangelize this, but I guess I still can't really believe it myself and I've had it for years.
Mythtv looks really good. Also check out Flamethrower. It's still very much in development. What I'd like to see in Mythtv is dvd/vcd/avi file playback using mplayer or something. This can be added, and scripts have been written, but from what i understand, not included in the project yet.
I guess what I'm really saying is "Yah, whatever, it's still not a decisive argument."
If software companies recognize that there is enough demand for Linux, then they will develop software for that platform. It's as simple as that. Cost, ms lisencing, stability, performance. These are the issues that will drive that demand, and cost is probably the biggest.
I agree. Let's not kid ourselves into thinking that the GPL equates to public domain. Maybe we aren't, but the slides make the point that our government should not be making developing products under the GPL. I like the GPL though. I think it's great that programmers would say, "if you think what i have done has value enough to use it, and you mod it, then damn it, let me see what you did." It's not only fair, but sensible, it seems to me.
Now that I think about it though, good debates could be had over whether the government should really be using the GPL. Its not really public domain in nature, but does it better benefit society as a whole. I mean look at what has happenned with linux/oss and the community. it's a thing of beauty. i can't wait to see what happens when this becomes a bigger issue (which i think it will in a short while when desktop/linux becomes just a little easier - let's not go there again).
On the other hand it is crazy to say that the government shouldn't develop ontop of the GPL...isn't it...it is, right?
It's not perfect, but it's pretty damn great. They just make/buy the cd, throw it in and check it out. No worry/ No changing/partitioning, just a quick demo. Specific directions on what to check out in Knoppix would also be helpful
I agree, a book doesn't cut it. Who are you going to get to sit down and read a book so they can spend even more hours in front of their computers learning something they know they don't need. Yea, okay. Get their feet wet. I think Knoppix is pretty decent, since they can see everything, be real impressed and not even have to install or "hurt/endanger" windows, and you know they'll ask that. Check my earlier post also.
Yes, I have to agree with this 1) Get it on their computer.
- show them how Linux can be dual-booted
- show them all the cool open source apps that can replace their windows apps (that they're not only free, but very sophisticated)
- like Gimp, XMMS, OpenOffice, Cdbakeoven, MPlayer, Xine, etc. (you know)
- I've been VERY impressed with KNOPPIX, this is an excellent way to demo Linux.
- I know all the geeks don't care about things like this, but the way a desktop looks can be very influencial (think apple). This means cool stuff like translucency in kde, and professional looking Ximian Gnome.
- I plan on making Knoppix CD's for everyone this christmas and sending it out with directions on what to do to check out Linux.
2) Most people have a registered version of windows 98. A 500mb win98 partition and a decently configured wine can have excellent results for running windows apps under linux instead of having to switch back and forth.
3) People with windows networks will want access to them. I've found that LinNeighborhood can make this a little easier. Any more suggestions on this front?
3) Over time they will become familiar with Linux and realize that it can replace windows. Either they will be supporting Linux just as users, or they will desire to get more involved, learn more, and give back a little more.
4) Stress the enormous amount of money they will be saving.
come to think of it, a good, simple how-to for absolute newbies on like a 1 hour what_to_do_to_check_this_out would be very cool. Just something to get their toes wet, you know. Cool features of Mozilla (multi-tab bookmarks!), playing dvd's/divx/tv with Xine or mplayer, etc.
How much would it cost to do a AOL style campaign? 100 million * what 25cents = $25 mil. What if everyone got together on this, contribute 10, 100, 1000, or company's could give 10,000 100,000, etc. Couldn't this change everything? Alright, now I'm sounding crazy. I'll stop.
At my school, Grove City College, we also get laptops as incoming freshman. I received a Compaq Armada E500 when I returned for my sophomore year (I took a year off and had to give my first one back). They gave me the freshman one rather than the sophomore computer (a year older) and I just kept my mouth shut. I'm now a senior, and I get to keep it even though my GPA is 2.59! The school costs approximately $12,500/yr, too, for my Mechanical Engineering degree! Too bad no-one will actually see this cause I'm too late to the conversation. Oh well.
This means that the only thing running in the box will be whatever minimal services you need, X and the actualy game you are running.
I thought this was a really good post. One question: Is it necessary to include lines in the script that kill certain processes that are started automatically, such as print servers, etc. Any direction on doing this (okay, okay, I'll learn myself)? How much of a performance boost could this achieve, if any at all?
I had major problems trying to play games on linux. granted i only have a 500mhz compaq armada e500 with 310megs of ram, but I love it, and was able to play most games fine in windows. much pain was dedicated to learning kernel settings, linux drivers, etc., and I'm glad i did learn (got video-divx working great), but nothing ever ran like I thought it should (never could play TuxRacer, or any of the Tron based games). I haven't tried the new ati linux drivers, as I'm running win98se again for school reasons, but I plan on being back in linux soon (gentoo).
Hardware auto-detection is obviously a major step in bringing linux to the masses. I don't think it can be underestimated (although I understand when people like the more hands-on approach, I'm a gentoo lover, myself.) I've been hearing more and more about Knoppix recently. Gnumed, an open source medical practice management solution project that i'm following is using it as a demo cd.
Since Knoppix is customizable, I was wondering how many people have tried creating their "own" OS-on-cd. Computers are everywhere, so it would seem practical to have your own customized operating system and personal desktop on cd. Forget dealing with how other people set up their computers and just throw in your own cd.
hmmm, i'm getting excited now. how cool would it be to whip out one of those credit card shaped cd's from your wallet, and amaze your friends.
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When Google went public only a small portion of outstanding shares were floated. Besides, don't they have a different share class structure. What I'm saying is that the IPO didn't cause this vote to turn out any different. The people who voted this resolution down are the same people who decided that their company would "do no evil". It is absolute bull shit for American companies to participate and aid China in their censorship efforts. There is absolutely no excuse.
I think you need to be careful anytime you recommend that people own a certain stock. A lot of the good news about AMD is already priced in to the stock. While I agree with you about their marketshare, and personally do own AMD stock, the best time to buy a stock does not necessarily equate to when all the good news is coming out.
I agree. I have a harder time convincing myself to invest in those huge companies. For a company to increase shareholder value it has to grow (vastly outweighs factors such as trimming costs). I believe huge companies can get to a critical mass at some point when it becomes increasingly difficult to add market share (esp. if you already have ~90%), meaning that the company has to make gambles in new markets it may not be as well versed in while also protecting its core products.
If they want to make an open source video codec, why don't they just support and help further develop the ogg video codec? Would the two codecs be so different that they are both needed?
It seems that tivo should be doing things to keep customers rather than drive them away. I view Tivo in a similar way as I view AOL's demise. It was a good idea at the start, but in the face of better cheaper technology proved to be an untenable business arangement... at least at the prices they are trying to charge. My friends cable company is about to install a dvr in place of their cable box as apart of their survice package (not sure if they're paying extra, although I don't think they are). This is most likely the future of this kind of service.
Well we had a good run didn't we? It was fun while it lasted.
I am reporting the same strange behavior. I'm getting consistent 503 errors with FireFox, but have no problems with Internet Explorer. I find this somewhat ironic.
I had a conversation with a friend about this topic and we thought there might be a market for a gaming community based around it. something only for casual gamers. We didn't figure out exactly how it might work but it should be able to exclude people that become too good at a particular game, or spend over a certain number of hours per month or something. I really enjoy playing games online against other people, but it sucks if you have to invest x amount of hours to either get good enough, or build up a certain character to a decent level. I realize that some mechanisms are in place for this sort of thing, like ranking, etc, but i think that they are often inadequate.
I know how you feel. Whenever this topic gets brought up someone always mentions the xbox and it seems to get dismissed. You can get these on ebay for somewhere around $85 new. Mod it for free and fun, and it will be able to do this dvd player can and more. XBMC has become one of the most amazing open source projects as far as I'm concerned. Another project called X-Link has now been integrated into xbmc meaning it can function similarly to xbox-live, only for free. I use xbmc as my dashboard, so i turn on my xbox and it's all there, music, games, weather, movies, x-link, emulators... all with a really fantastic looking interface. I don't know why i feel the need to evangelize this, but I guess I still can't really believe it myself and I've had it for years.
Mythtv looks really good. Also check out Flamethrower. It's still very much in development. What I'd like to see in Mythtv is dvd/vcd/avi file playback using mplayer or something. This can be added, and scripts have been written, but from what i understand, not included in the project yet.
If software companies recognize that there is enough demand for Linux, then they will develop software for that platform. It's as simple as that. Cost, ms lisencing, stability, performance. These are the issues that will drive that demand, and cost is probably the biggest.
I agree. Let's not kid ourselves into thinking that the GPL equates to public domain. Maybe we aren't, but the slides make the point that our government should not be making developing products under the GPL. I like the GPL though. I think it's great that programmers would say, "if you think what i have done has value enough to use it, and you mod it, then damn it, let me see what you did." It's not only fair, but sensible, it seems to me.
Now that I think about it though, good debates could be had over whether the government should really be using the GPL. Its not really public domain in nature, but does it better benefit society as a whole. I mean look at what has happenned with linux/oss and the community. it's a thing of beauty. i can't wait to see what happens when this becomes a bigger issue (which i think it will in a short while when desktop/linux becomes just a little easier - let's not go there again).
On the other hand it is crazy to say that the government shouldn't develop ontop of the GPL...isn't it...it is, right?
I'm a student, but I guess I asked for that
It's not perfect, but it's pretty damn great. They just make/buy the cd, throw it in and check it out. No worry/ No changing/partitioning, just a quick demo. Specific directions on what to check out in Knoppix would also be helpful
I agree, a book doesn't cut it. Who are you going to get to sit down and read a book so they can spend even more hours in front of their computers learning something they know they don't need. Yea, okay. Get their feet wet. I think Knoppix is pretty decent, since they can see everything, be real impressed and not even have to install or "hurt/endanger" windows, and you know they'll ask that. Check my earlier post also.
Yes, I have to agree with this
1) Get it on their computer.
- show them how Linux can be dual-booted
- show them all the cool open source apps that can replace their windows apps (that they're not only free, but very sophisticated)
- like Gimp, XMMS, OpenOffice, Cdbakeoven, MPlayer, Xine, etc. (you know)
- I've been VERY impressed with KNOPPIX, this is an excellent way to demo Linux.
- I know all the geeks don't care about things like this, but the way a desktop looks can be very influencial (think apple). This means cool stuff like translucency in kde, and professional looking Ximian Gnome.
- I plan on making Knoppix CD's for everyone this christmas and sending it out with directions on what to do to check out Linux.
2) Most people have a registered version of windows 98. A 500mb win98 partition and a decently configured wine can have excellent results for running windows apps under linux instead of having to switch back and forth.
3) People with windows networks will want access to them. I've found that LinNeighborhood can make this a little easier. Any more suggestions on this front?
3) Over time they will become familiar with Linux and realize that it can replace windows. Either they will be supporting Linux just as users, or they will desire to get more involved, learn more, and give back a little more.
4) Stress the enormous amount of money they will be saving.
come to think of it, a good, simple how-to for absolute newbies on like a 1 hour what_to_do_to_check_this_out would be very cool. Just something to get their toes wet, you know. Cool features of Mozilla (multi-tab bookmarks!), playing dvd's/divx/tv with Xine or mplayer, etc.
How much would it cost to do a AOL style campaign? 100 million * what 25cents = $25 mil. What if everyone got together on this, contribute 10, 100, 1000, or company's could give 10,000 100,000, etc. Couldn't this change everything? Alright, now I'm sounding crazy. I'll stop.
At my school, Grove City College, we also get laptops as incoming freshman. I received a Compaq Armada E500 when I returned for my sophomore year (I took a year off and had to give my first one back). They gave me the freshman one rather than the sophomore computer (a year older) and I just kept my mouth shut. I'm now a senior, and I get to keep it even though my GPA is 2.59! The school costs approximately $12,500/yr, too, for my Mechanical Engineering degree! Too bad no-one will actually see this cause I'm too late to the conversation. Oh well.
This means that the only thing running in the box will be whatever minimal services you need, X and the actualy game you are running. I thought this was a really good post. One question: Is it necessary to include lines in the script that kill certain processes that are started automatically, such as print servers, etc. Any direction on doing this (okay, okay, I'll learn myself)? How much of a performance boost could this achieve, if any at all? I had major problems trying to play games on linux. granted i only have a 500mhz compaq armada e500 with 310megs of ram, but I love it, and was able to play most games fine in windows. much pain was dedicated to learning kernel settings, linux drivers, etc., and I'm glad i did learn (got video-divx working great), but nothing ever ran like I thought it should (never could play TuxRacer, or any of the Tron based games). I haven't tried the new ati linux drivers, as I'm running win98se again for school reasons, but I plan on being back in linux soon (gentoo).
Hardware auto-detection is obviously a major step in bringing linux to the masses. I don't think it can be underestimated (although I understand when people like the more hands-on approach, I'm a gentoo lover, myself.) I've been hearing more and more about Knoppix recently. Gnumed, an open source medical practice management solution project that i'm following is using it as a demo cd. Since Knoppix is customizable, I was wondering how many people have tried creating their "own" OS-on-cd. Computers are everywhere, so it would seem practical to have your own customized operating system and personal desktop on cd. Forget dealing with how other people set up their computers and just throw in your own cd. hmmm, i'm getting excited now. how cool would it be to whip out one of those credit card shaped cd's from your wallet, and amaze your friends.