Personally I don't care how different they choose to make the underlying code. What i'd like to see them do is standardize on one appearance system. In Windows people don't know whether they apps they wrote were done in pure API calls, MFC, VCL, or whatever else. And it's usually not readily apparent what language was used. A toolkit is different than the class libraries under Windows, but the idea is the same, people would care much less about QTvs GTK+ vs Motif is the apps supported a single drawing style and theme system. The code to layout the window doesn't have to be approached the same way, so a QT widget is fundamentally different from a GTK widget. Only thing changed is that they now look the same to the user. treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is
oblivion.
Downloading seawolf isos. Beta 1 was Fisher, Beta 2 was Wolverine. Guessing that seawolf is release. treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is
oblivion.
My mistake. I was looking at something else the poster had said. treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is
oblivion.
The IA-64 will be able to emulate x86 code. It's problem is that it's dog slow doing so. treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is
oblivion.
One problem I'd see was that not all of them would support syncing well. That was a problem with gnome-cal and the palms a few months back, actuall syncing couldnt be done automatically because gnome-cal didnt record enough info, or something of the sort. treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is
oblivion.
Probably left up to the user, most Windows users are going to be syncronising with a small set up applications. Who knows what joe-Linux-user's preffered mail client, calender program, whaterver is going to be. treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is
oblivion.
I've found it safe to install the realplayer rpm(apt-get install realplayer requires the rpm) treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is
oblivion.
which is really kind of funny since you could simply chmod u+r the file:) treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is
oblivion.
README and INSTALL are written by the maintainer of the source code and explicitly refer to the source code, something an rpm may have no intention of doing.
And they are not untouchable. Malicious code can be obscured in the Makefile just as easily as in an RPM. The README and INSTALL files are not always indepth guides to what is changed on your system. The only accurate check is to look over anything that will be run during the install process, and even that isn't completely safe.
You sound like you've never even played around with a source distrobution... Maybe you should get some more experience under your belt before you pretend to have any expertise.
I don't claim to be an expert at packaging, but I have prepared both debian and redhat packages for applications, and am well aware of how they work. Personal insults aren't particularly useful. treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is
oblivion.
Yeah..I agree..but with source distribution you usually get README and INSTALL files that tell you exactly what is going to happen during the installation process.
If the RPM cant be trusted, then neither can the README or the INSTALL file. Even the source can't be trusted following this line of though. Might I recommend you read what Ken Thompson has written on the topic of trust? http://www.acm.org/classics/sep95/. Eventually you have to decide who you are going to trust, if the packages are from the softwares author, then I see no reason to doubt the RPMS above the source code. Same with the authors of your distribution. I'd be more wary about packages without any form of acknowledgment from someone related to the program itself. treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is
oblivion.
he said why himself, he started Linux as an attempt to teach himself to program his 386. He never planned on it being popular, it was just a project for himself. Look back at the hole Linux is Obsolete thread, not much talk of any available alternatives. treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is
oblivion.
Alpha Centauri is a real oddity. It was completed at least 6 months ago, probably longer, but was delayed due to vague problems concerning packaging. Averaging them out isnt useful. treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is
oblivion.
uhm. Novel Netware. The story does mention they worked with Novel to find it, and Netware has a reputation for stability. treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is
oblivion.
Not just.NET though, For a while Corel was porting their Office Suite to Java to run online, Sun was pushing the Network Computer idea..NET itself may be recently announced, but the idea of renting applications and storage are not. treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is
oblivion.
The two and a half hour long FedEx commercial. The perfect instance of Corporate sponsorship ruining a movie, hopefully games don't get that bad. treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is
oblivion.
Why? I use AIM because the people I am interested in talking to use AOL Instant Messenger in Windows. I'm not using it because of a love of AOL's software. If others would use something like Jabber I'd be thrilled, but that isn't going to happen anytime soon. treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is
oblivion.
Just because it makes sense makes it no less news. RedHat is taking a very helpful service that they have provided for free, and decided to charge for it. I'd have no difficulty in downloading all of the RPMS and installing them myself, but there are a lot of new users who get a copy of redhat and might have a difficult time keeping up to date. Before it was a simple as running the up2date utility, now it's figure out what updates you need, download them, Install all of them, dealing with dependencies. treke
I did read the link. The "Most of your applications will work as always." seems to imply that 4.0 will run 3.x and 2.x apps, not the other way around. treke
If they aren't providing an upgrade from 3.x devices, then I would hope that OS 4.0 apps are binary compatible with the old 3.x OS. If they arent... I'd seriously reconsider any future PalmOS based products. treke
Petition isnt needed. The authors have stated they are interested in getting it ported, it's just a matter of a deal being worked out with someone. treke
There's nothing wrong with decoding an audiofile with the copyright bits set, it seems to me that those bits would be more appropriatly obeyed by applications like napster where files would be transferred from person to person. treke
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Personally I don't care how different they choose to make the underlying code. What i'd like to see them do is standardize on one appearance system. In Windows people don't know whether they apps they wrote were done in pure API calls, MFC, VCL, or whatever else. And it's usually not readily apparent what language was used. A toolkit is different than the class libraries under Windows, but the idea is the same, people would care much less about QTvs GTK+ vs Motif is the apps supported a single drawing style and theme system. The code to layout the window doesn't have to be approached the same way, so a QT widget is fundamentally different from a GTK widget. Only thing changed is that they now look the same to the user.
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
Downloading seawolf isos. Beta 1 was Fisher, Beta 2 was Wolverine. Guessing that seawolf is release.
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
My mistake. I was looking at something else the poster had said.
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
The IA-64 will be able to emulate x86 code. It's problem is that it's dog slow doing so.
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
One problem I'd see was that not all of them would support syncing well. That was a problem with gnome-cal and the palms a few months back, actuall syncing couldnt be done automatically because gnome-cal didnt record enough info, or something of the sort.
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
Probably left up to the user, most Windows users are going to be syncronising with a small set up applications. Who knows what joe-Linux-user's preffered mail client, calender program, whaterver is going to be.
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
I've found it safe to install the realplayer rpm(apt-get install realplayer requires the rpm)
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
which is really kind of funny since you could simply chmod u+r the file :)
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
README and INSTALL are written by the maintainer of the source code and explicitly refer to the source code, something an rpm may have no intention of doing.
And they are not untouchable. Malicious code can be obscured in the Makefile just as easily as in an RPM. The README and INSTALL files are not always indepth guides to what is changed on your system. The only accurate check is to look over anything that will be run during the install process, and even that isn't completely safe.
You sound like you've never even played around with a source distrobution... Maybe you should get some more experience under your belt before you pretend to have any expertise.
I don't claim to be an expert at packaging, but I have prepared both debian and redhat packages for applications, and am well aware of how they work. Personal insults aren't particularly useful.
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
Yeah..I agree..but with source distribution you usually get README and INSTALL files that tell you exactly what is going to happen during the installation process.
If the RPM cant be trusted, then neither can the README or the INSTALL file. Even the source can't be trusted following this line of though. Might I recommend you read what Ken Thompson has written on the topic of trust? http://www.acm.org/classics/sep95/. Eventually you have to decide who you are going to trust, if the packages are from the softwares author, then I see no reason to doubt the RPMS above the source code. Same with the authors of your distribution. I'd be more wary about packages without any form of acknowledgment from someone related to the program itself.
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
he said why himself, he started Linux as an attempt to teach himself to program his 386. He never planned on it being popular, it was just a project for himself. Look back at the hole Linux is Obsolete thread, not much talk of any available alternatives.
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
Alpha Centauri is a real oddity. It was completed at least 6 months ago, probably longer, but was delayed due to vague problems concerning packaging. Averaging them out isnt useful.
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
12 month old crap? 2 week old crap in the case of Tribes 2
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
Wont be any binareis released.
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
uhm. Novel Netware. The story does mention they worked with Novel to find it, and Netware has a reputation for stability.
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
Not just .NET though, For a while Corel was porting their Office Suite to Java to run online, Sun was pushing the Network Computer idea. .NET itself may be recently announced, but the idea of renting applications and storage are not.
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
The two and a half hour long FedEx commercial. The perfect instance of Corporate sponsorship ruining a movie, hopefully games don't get that bad.
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
Why? I use AIM because the people I am interested in talking to use AOL Instant Messenger in Windows. I'm not using it because of a love of AOL's software. If others would use something like Jabber I'd be thrilled, but that isn't going to happen anytime soon.
treke
Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
That's a good thing to know.
treke
Just because it makes sense makes it no less news. RedHat is taking a very helpful service that they have provided for free, and decided to charge for it. I'd have no difficulty in downloading all of the RPMS and installing them myself, but there are a lot of new users who get a copy of redhat and might have a difficult time keeping up to date. Before it was a simple as running the up2date utility, now it's figure out what updates you need, download them, Install all of them, dealing with dependencies.
treke
The 2 megs probably refers to the size of the Flash ROM that the Operating system is stored in, not the RAM available to the user.
treke
I did read the link. The "Most of your applications will work as always." seems to imply that 4.0 will run 3.x and 2.x apps, not the other way around.
treke
If they aren't providing an upgrade from 3.x devices, then I would hope that OS 4.0 apps are binary compatible with the old 3.x OS. If they arent... I'd seriously reconsider any future PalmOS based products.
treke
Petition isnt needed. The authors have stated they are interested in getting it ported, it's just a matter of a deal being worked out with someone.
treke
There's nothing wrong with decoding an audiofile with the copyright bits set, it seems to me that those bits would be more appropriatly obeyed by applications like napster where files would be transferred from person to person.
treke