My understanding from a friend who pretty much had the bible memorized, is that according to it, there is no life on any other planet.
If SETI or by any other means, intelligent (or even not) life is discovered, that pretty much erases the Bible and Jesus. What is driving people to spend so much money or something that will have such a great impact on society? Or, as I pretty much expect, do 'religious' people only believe from peer pressure and not true faith and would the discovery not really change anything as far as religions? I mean I know it would change things as far as how we see ourselves, but would a Christian Holy War break out against the scientists, or would facts in evidence cause a suppression of some religions?
Real simple morons.
Google's primary intention was to aid in searching the internet for legal information. Some people like you may find a way to use it for illegal information, but that was not the intention. Bit torrent's sole intention was to avoid the downfall of napster and help people find illegal information. There may even be one or two people who use it for legal purposes, but that was not the original intent.
News flash: Laws often involve the concept of INTENT.
And to all the idiots who continue to come up with stupid non related comparisons; If you intentionally advertise your self as the source to find a drug dealer, guess what? You are breaking the law, morally and literally. If you make guns for hunting and someone kills somebody with one of your guns, you are not morally or literally breaking the law.
Real simple question: If I copy GPL software X and sell it under my name and make a profit without meeting any of the GPL conditions, am I good or bad? What's the fucking difference?
Nope, just a play in words in the direction you wish it to be read.
Microsoft could easily say the same thing if they went after Mono.
Sun sued Microsoft over Java because it took market share (mindshare) away from Sun, and they had a contract that allowed them to sue. Any other belief is fantasy. If Microsoft had not been in a special treated monopoly position, the courts would have thrown the suit out even with the contract.
"If banks are to adopt a universal crypto system, then perhaps AES or some form of elliptic curve crypto would be a better choice?"
AES was not written in the US - so it is highly unlikely that US banks would adopt it as a first solution. Keep in mind the only US organization (NSA) that can truly say whether or not it is breakable will not say. Same goes for eliptical curves - they (NSA) will definetly say not all curves are secure - but they will not say which ones and why, but I doubt if you will see eliptical curves in any military applications in the future.
Neither of these are possible choices for US banks. I have sat in these meetings between banks and NSA - and the banks are in quite a bind - they know they need to move past DES, but NSA won't tell them anything classified - so they have to put their foot out looking for the landmines on their own. Then NSA pipes up and shakes their head "no" when the do something wrong, which so far is everything. So what are the banks to do? My bet is they do eventually end up with AES, but after a couple of false starts.
"Microsoft essentially obsoleted our entire company's code base when they introduced.Net, forcing a rewrite that will cost millions"
Yeah, let's go with Java because IBM supports it!! Someone who supports Java would never do anything like that *cough*banks*OS2*cough*
"one patent infringement lawsuit from MS and it is gome (sic)"
Yeah, like when Sun sued Microsoft over Java and now MIcrosoft's Java is gone. Just goes to show anyone will sue anyone, there is no protection because you are not going with Microsoft.
Why am I bother to respond, I can tell by your posting your probably a high school coder anyway.
I don't disagree with Java as a choice, in fact I agree with it, but for reasons that make sense, not made up FUD. Stop whining "me too".
My worst experience was in doing a document management system for the Whitehouse. The project was run by a bunch of dress nice but clueless people - which is pretty common in the Whitehouse. The contract called for certain bonuses to be paid if delivery dates were met. When it became obvious that the design was a failure and that this thing would not pass a single prewritten test, the project manager called in the team to work over the weekend and re-write the tests so that the application would not fail. This all needed to be done before she went and taught Sunday school at her church.
I refused to work, eventually got fired (after I completely stopped showing up), and more importantly forever formed an opinion about most good Christians.
If I could remember the name of the company I would be happy to say it - I think these kinds of frauds needs to be exposed.
I've been around the business world for a while now (25+ years) and this just doesn't seem right. I have bought businesses, been working for businesses that got bought etc - and deals like this take 6 months to a year minimum. It seems like it was last week that the news read 'IBM has decided to sell'. Was that story completely off timing or is there something else going on?
Anyone know the inside scoop? Assuming it was really 6 months ago IBM started shopping for a buyer there has to be a lot more to the story.
Been to an airport in kergonimania?
Well no actually I haven't.
How about explaining what the hell you are talking about?
I have no idea what is different in a European airport.
What is your point that was worth such high moderation?
I have purchased no less than 3 counter strike games - each from regular retailers and each came with CD keys. Why 3? Well so me and friends could play legitimately on my T1 at my home.
Imagine my shock and horror when I try to play one day and receive a message that my steam account has been closed because I am using a cracked CD key. 3 F'n times I have paid, and I'm denied access to play to game.
Then along comes Half Life 2. I refuse to buy it in principal and because of my previous experience. But the reviews are too good. "It's the best game ever, again." Not to mention my IRC chat buddies calling me a moron because I object to steam. OK, I give in and buy it. What do I get? The first CD cant be read because of the imbedded copy protection. It takes over 4 hours to install as I go through 4 CD-Rom drives until I find one that will read the disk. An hour to "decrypt" the files, WTF?
I play it - and indeed it is good.
Today I read./ and learn of this mess, 20k users banned - and you know all are not valid bans, the forums closed because of all the negative postings, basically the entire community is in rebellion. S.O.B I was right to begin with and should have never spent $50 for such total bullshit.
But, who do I blame? Is it valve/vivendi's fault? NO. IT IS THE LAME ASS COPYRIGHT STEALING IDIOTS THAT CAUSED THIS PROBLEM TO BEGIN WITH.
Two Days ago I read with disbelief incredible responses saying how walking into a movie theater with a video camera and then posting the movie on the internet is an OK thing to do. Some idiot even associated it with free speech.
There is an incredible "steal it if you can" culture here that has resulted in me having to deal with unbearable BS in copy protection - and I swear to God - if I see one of you in a movie theater with a video camera actively recording I am going to pull out a gun and shoot you between the eyes.
I am that pissed off.
Could you please try and not distort what I said? I Said "material that was funded by the advertising" - if the material was not funded by the advertising, then indeed I may agree with your right to skip it, but not completly. Regardless of funding, it is well within Disney's rights to say, "if you want to watch this movie you must watch our previews of other movies." Much the same way I have to look at advertising everytime I come to this slashdot web site. If I give people on the net a way to view Slashdot content without advertising how long before Slashdot sends me a cease and desist letter?
And what does skipping commercials have to do with free speech? "insidious and disturbing perversion" is what your arguments are. You have some weird notion that the world owes you and because you can steal it is ok.
If I understand the objections, people feel they have the right to watch commercially produced material and ignore the advertising that funds the production of the material. Can someone explain to me where that right comes from? If you object to watching the commercials in order to see the material, then by all means DO NOT WATCH IT! If you would rather pay directly for the material to be watched, then feel free to do so (HBO etc..) But stop thinking you have some right to watch material that costs money to produce without giving the producers a chance to recoup the investment - you DO NOT.
And what right is the objection based on to stopping people from blatantly stealing copyrighted material? I think 3 years is way too short of a prison sentence. If you are criminal enough to walk into a movie theater with a video camera, record a movie and then post it on the internet you deserve to be hung by your balls (or tits) in public for 5 years. You are a drag on society. You probably will steal food from the poor as well since you have no moral judgment. We do not need you in modern society and there are plenty of third world countries where you are still welcome - I would support deportation.
Thank you for bringing this bill to my attention, I plan on supporting it!
And of course, when yet another of MS' bashing story is discussed, the shills come out of the woodwork bleating the lee7 h4x0r line "Microsoft is trying to take over the world!".
Microsoft is a company in business to make money. Unfortunately our broke patent system says that if Microsoft doesn't patent something they use, then some money hungry leach will come around and sue them for it. The term is submarine patents and they exist for the sole purpose of 'popping up' as counterclaims. IE Novell sues Microsoft for a 'networking patent' and Microsoft counter sues for 'booting from a disk drive' - case dismissed.
Now unfortunately some bean counter finds out MS has a patent on 'booting from a disk drive' and want Microsoft to license the technology so that the stocks will go up a nickel.
Don't blame Microsoft and Gates for everything evil. They exist in a bad system and they have to play the game or die.
Ok, you are cornered by a large bear, you have a machine gun - are you evil because you kill the bear?
yep, you are right. I forgot how well terrorism and weapons of mass destruction where understood in 1759 and 1787. What was I thinking?
Go forth you brave sole, see you in the after life.
True, there are plenty of areas where things like this can be exploited for the wrong goals, and I am sure it does occasionally happen, but 9/11 was one failure out of uncountable successes of intelligence gathered from things like echelon. Think about it. Without echelon we would have 9/11 size disasters every month in every major country. Is your right to privacy really as important as you think it is? You are damn right it is important, but it would be a totally different world if you were really as free as you think you are.
The truly weak minded are the ones who believe everything is peachy keen. Echelon is a necessary evil - it probably has already saved your life more than once.
i think i know what you are asking - i'll i will admit - it is not something I have to do - i have one target platform.
But, I think what you are saying can be acomplished with the build manager. With it you can specify module to include or exlude, define different preprocessor vars etc. Essentially every change you make to the 'current' build environment can effect all builds or just the one you have currently selected. That is what I meant when I said pick nunit in a combo and build - nunit is a seperate build config and selecting any of them (retail, debug, nunit, web version, desk version (and debug/retail of those etc)) is a combo box in the tool bar.
Is that what you are asking about?
yes - windows environments are very crippled compared to *nix. Of course *nix environments are very crippled compared to punch cards, and punch card were very crippled compared to hand wiring backplanes.
Honestly, were do you get off calling windows environments crippled? For one, it's not windows, its the software you buy (or steal) and run under windows.
For two, just because you are used to using make, and don't have a similar archaic script based dinosaur in your windows environment does make your windows environment crippled, it makes it different, duh.
The number of commercial applications plus the number of enterprise applications, written in a crippled windows environment are sooo many times the number written in *nix environments it can not possibly be as big a problem as you make it out to be.
Granted I have never had a *nix budget ($10,000+ for a single license C++ compiler), but in looking at open source i find things like emacs, DDD, gcc and make to be extremly complicated. Yep, you can make em work, and you can make a punch card machnie work to, doesnt mean squat.
My current visual studio C# project has 20 + sub projects, persistent object libraries, business layers, GUI layers, both desktop and web and I hit ctrl-shift-b (build) and it builds. What is so crippled about that? Change a combo to NUnit and I can run component tests.
Oh - need overnight updates and builds?, well let's see the entire dev environment is exposed to scripting - so i can CVS update, build, run NUnit component tests and email results - yeah - real crippled alright.
Still not enough? There is an entire libray provided so that you can expand the environment.
It's not the windows environment that's crippled, it's those who are too hardheaded to learn comething else that's crippled.
The banks in the US are so dumb that if you just have an account number you can withdrawl funds from someones checking account. Sad, unbelievable but true. I had someone withdrawing money from my bank of america account every month. The bank refused to identify who was withdrawing the money or to stop it from occuring in the future. I threatened them with a lawyer and they laughed.
So again, who needs a password in the US?
I know several times where row ACLs, enforced by encryption, would have been a really helpful thing. I don't see that this article mentions if that functionality would be built in or not - but I can say that with some of the new government laws regarding privacy the first vendor who provides it will have a compelling product. What I mean by row level ACLs is the ability to give someone access to a particular row (ie a patient) of data but not the whole database. Not pointless at all, in fact required by law in the US currently, yet no vendor I know of can provide it.
I also know Tom Rizzo - the guy quoted in the article. He's a real good guy - did wonders for the Exchange product line. Good luck to him.
Yeah, I mean he's a smart guy and all, and smart guys know how to make more money. The only thing I could think of was he's still mad his blowfish didnt get picked for AES. But surely there's better targets than WinZip. Some of the scenarios in his paper border on rediculous. Not that they aren't true, but they would apply to any algorithms, including his own.
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That would be the "believe from peer pressure and not true faith" scenario.
My understanding from a friend who pretty much had the bible memorized, is that according to it, there is no life on any other planet.
If SETI or by any other means, intelligent (or even not) life is discovered, that pretty much erases the Bible and Jesus.
What is driving people to spend so much money or something that will have such a great impact on society? Or, as I pretty much expect, do 'religious' people only believe from peer pressure and not true faith and would the discovery not really change anything as far as religions? I mean I know it would change things as far as how we see ourselves, but would a Christian Holy War break out against the scientists, or would facts in evidence cause a suppression of some religions?
Real simple morons.
Google's primary intention was to aid in searching the internet for legal information. Some people like you may find a way to use it for illegal information, but that was not the intention.
Bit torrent's sole intention was to avoid the downfall of napster and help people find illegal information. There may even be one or two people who use it for legal purposes, but that was not the original intent.
News flash: Laws often involve the concept of INTENT.
And to all the idiots who continue to come up with stupid non related comparisons; If you intentionally advertise your self as the source to find a drug dealer, guess what? You are breaking the law, morally and literally. If you make guns for hunting and someone kills somebody with one of your guns, you are not morally or literally breaking the law.
Real simple question: If I copy GPL software X and sell it under my name and make a profit without meeting any of the GPL conditions, am I good or bad? What's the fucking difference?
Nope, just a play in words in the direction you wish it to be read.
Microsoft could easily say the same thing if they went after Mono.
Sun sued Microsoft over Java because it took market share (mindshare) away from Sun, and they had a contract that allowed them to sue. Any other belief is fantasy. If Microsoft had not been in a special treated monopoly position, the courts would have thrown the suit out even with the contract.
"If banks are to adopt a universal crypto system, then perhaps AES or some form of elliptic curve crypto would be a better choice?"
AES was not written in the US - so it is highly unlikely that US banks would adopt it as a first solution. Keep in mind the only US organization (NSA) that can truly say whether or not it is breakable will not say.
Same goes for eliptical curves - they (NSA) will definetly say not all curves are secure - but they will not say which ones and why, but I doubt if you will see eliptical curves in any military applications in the future.
Neither of these are possible choices for US banks.
I have sat in these meetings between banks and NSA - and the banks are in quite a bind - they know they need to move past DES, but NSA won't tell them anything classified - so they have to put their foot out looking for the landmines on their own. Then NSA pipes up and shakes their head "no" when the do something wrong, which so far is everything. So what are the banks to do? My bet is they do eventually end up with AES, but after a couple of false starts.
"Microsoft essentially obsoleted our entire company's code base when they introduced .Net, forcing a rewrite that will cost millions"
Yeah, let's go with Java because IBM supports it!! Someone who supports Java would never do anything like that *cough*banks*OS2*cough*
"one patent infringement lawsuit from MS and it is gome (sic)"
Yeah, like when Sun sued Microsoft over Java and now MIcrosoft's Java is gone. Just goes to show anyone will sue anyone, there is no protection because you are not going with Microsoft.
Why am I bother to respond, I can tell by your posting your probably a high school coder anyway.
I don't disagree with Java as a choice, in fact I agree with it, but for reasons that make sense, not made up FUD. Stop whining "me too".
Yeah, that's as dumb as saying I have a linux PC or a Windows PC - wait ..... n/m
My worst experience was in doing a document management system for the Whitehouse. The project was run by a bunch of dress nice but clueless people - which is pretty common in the Whitehouse. The contract called for certain bonuses to be paid if delivery dates were met. When it became obvious that the design was a failure and that this thing would not pass a single prewritten test, the project manager called in the team to work over the weekend and re-write the tests so that the application would not fail. This all needed to be done before she went and taught Sunday school at her church.
I refused to work, eventually got fired (after I completely stopped showing up), and more importantly forever formed an opinion about most good Christians.
If I could remember the name of the company I would be happy to say it - I think these kinds of frauds needs to be exposed.
I've been around the business world for a while now (25+ years) and this just doesn't seem right. I have bought businesses, been working for businesses that got bought etc - and deals like this take 6 months to a year minimum. It seems like it was last week that the news read 'IBM has decided to sell'. Was that story completely off timing or is there something else going on?
Anyone know the inside scoop? Assuming it was really 6 months ago IBM started shopping for a buyer there has to be a lot more to the story.
Been to an airport in kergonimania?
Well no actually I haven't.
How about explaining what the hell you are talking about?
I have no idea what is different in a European airport.
What is your point that was worth such high moderation?
Since IT work is so stable now, I've chosen another stable field for side work. I am a steel worker. I make iron and steel machinery and parts.
In case you didn't get it, that is sarcastic. American IT jobs are moving overseas just like steel work did. And guess what? It ain't coming back.
I haven't found any decent programming work in over a year. I'm squeaking by on hourly hack work.
But, on the side for real, I do steel work. Go figure. Glutton for punishment I guess.
I have purchased no less than 3 counter strike games - each from regular retailers and each came with CD keys. Why 3? Well so me and friends could play legitimately on my T1 at my home. ./ and learn of this mess, 20k users banned - and you know all are not valid bans, the forums closed because of all the negative postings, basically the entire community is in rebellion. S.O.B I was right to begin with and should have never spent $50 for such total bullshit.
Imagine my shock and horror when I try to play one day and receive a message that my steam account has been closed because I am using a cracked CD key. 3 F'n times I have paid, and I'm denied access to play to game.
Then along comes Half Life 2. I refuse to buy it in principal and because of my previous experience. But the reviews are too good. "It's the best game ever, again." Not to mention my IRC chat buddies calling me a moron because I object to steam.
OK, I give in and buy it. What do I get? The first CD cant be read because of the imbedded copy protection. It takes over 4 hours to install as I go through 4 CD-Rom drives until I find one that will read the disk. An hour to "decrypt" the files, WTF?
I play it - and indeed it is good.
Today I read
But, who do I blame? Is it valve/vivendi's fault? NO. IT IS THE LAME ASS COPYRIGHT STEALING IDIOTS THAT CAUSED THIS PROBLEM TO BEGIN WITH.
Two Days ago I read with disbelief incredible responses saying how walking into a movie theater with a video camera and then posting the movie on the internet is an OK thing to do. Some idiot even associated it with free speech.
There is an incredible "steal it if you can" culture here that has resulted in me having to deal with unbearable BS in copy protection - and I swear to God - if I see one of you in a movie theater with a video camera actively recording I am going to pull out a gun and shoot you between the eyes.
I am that pissed off.
Could you please try and not distort what I said?
I Said "material that was funded by the advertising" - if the material was not funded by the advertising, then indeed I may agree with your right to skip it, but not completly.
Regardless of funding, it is well within Disney's rights to say, "if you want to watch this movie you must watch our previews of other movies." Much the same way I have to look at advertising everytime I come to this slashdot web site. If I give people on the net a way to view Slashdot content without advertising how long before Slashdot sends me a cease and desist letter?
And what does skipping commercials have to do with free speech? "insidious and disturbing perversion" is what your arguments are. You have some weird notion that the world owes you and because you can steal it is ok.
...some of their 'rights' come from.
If I understand the objections, people feel they have the right to watch commercially produced material and ignore the advertising that funds the production of the material.
Can someone explain to me where that right comes from? If you object to watching the commercials in order to see the material, then by all means DO NOT WATCH IT! If you would rather pay directly for the material to be watched, then feel free to do so (HBO etc..) But stop thinking you have some right to watch material that costs money to produce without giving the producers a chance to recoup the investment - you DO NOT.
And what right is the objection based on to stopping people from blatantly stealing copyrighted material? I think 3 years is way too short of a prison sentence. If you are criminal enough to walk into a movie theater with a video camera, record a movie and then post it on the internet you deserve to be hung by your balls (or tits) in public for 5 years. You are a drag on society. You probably will steal food from the poor as well since you have no moral judgment. We do not need you in modern society and there are plenty of third world countries where you are still welcome - I would support deportation.
Thank you for bringing this bill to my attention, I plan on supporting it!
And of course, when yet another of MS' bashing story is discussed, the shills come out of the woodwork bleating the lee7 h4x0r line "Microsoft is trying to take over the world!".
Microsoft is a company in business to make money. Unfortunately our broke patent system says that if Microsoft doesn't patent something they use, then some money hungry leach will come around and sue them for it. The term is submarine patents and they exist for the sole purpose of 'popping up' as counterclaims. IE Novell sues Microsoft for a 'networking patent' and Microsoft counter sues for 'booting from a disk drive' - case dismissed.
Now unfortunately some bean counter finds out MS has a patent on 'booting from a disk drive' and want Microsoft to license the technology so that the stocks will go up a nickel.
Don't blame Microsoft and Gates for everything evil. They exist in a bad system and they have to play the game or die.
Ok, you are cornered by a large bear, you have a machine gun - are you evil because you kill the bear?
yep, you are right. I forgot how well terrorism and weapons of mass destruction where understood in 1759 and 1787. What was I thinking?
Go forth you brave sole, see you in the after life.
Yes and no, mostly NO.
True, there are plenty of areas where things like this can be exploited for the wrong goals, and I am sure it does occasionally happen, but 9/11 was one failure out of uncountable successes of intelligence gathered from things like echelon. Think about it. Without echelon we would have 9/11 size disasters every month in every major country. Is your right to privacy really as important as you think it is? You are damn right it is important, but it would be a totally different world if you were really as free as you think you are.
The truly weak minded are the ones who believe everything is peachy keen. Echelon is a necessary evil - it probably has already saved your life more than once.
i think i know what you are asking - i'll i will admit - it is not something I have to do - i have one target platform.
But, I think what you are saying can be acomplished with the build manager. With it you can specify module to include or exlude, define different preprocessor vars etc. Essentially every change you make to the 'current' build environment can effect all builds or just the one you have currently selected. That is what I meant when I said pick nunit in a combo and build - nunit is a seperate build config and selecting any of them (retail, debug, nunit, web version, desk version (and debug/retail of those etc)) is a combo box in the tool bar.
Is that what you are asking about?
yes - windows environments are very crippled compared to *nix. Of course *nix environments are very crippled compared to punch cards, and punch card were very crippled compared to hand wiring backplanes.
Honestly, were do you get off calling windows environments crippled? For one, it's not windows, its the software you buy (or steal) and run under windows.
For two, just because you are used to using make, and don't have a similar archaic script based dinosaur in your windows environment does make your windows environment crippled, it makes it different, duh.
The number of commercial applications plus the number of enterprise applications, written in a crippled windows environment are sooo many times the number written in *nix environments it can not possibly be as big a problem as you make it out to be.
Granted I have never had a *nix budget ($10,000+ for a single license C++ compiler), but in looking at open source i find things like emacs, DDD, gcc and make to be extremly complicated. Yep, you can make em work, and you can make a punch card machnie work to, doesnt mean squat.
My current visual studio C# project has 20 + sub projects, persistent object libraries, business layers, GUI layers, both desktop and web and I hit ctrl-shift-b (build) and it builds. What is so crippled about that? Change a combo to NUnit and I can run component tests.
Oh - need overnight updates and builds?, well let's see the entire dev environment is exposed to scripting - so i can CVS update, build, run NUnit component tests and email results - yeah - real crippled alright.
Still not enough? There is an entire libray provided so that you can expand the environment.
It's not the windows environment that's crippled, it's those who are too hardheaded to learn comething else that's crippled.
The banks in the US are so dumb that if you just have an account number you can withdrawl funds from someones checking account. Sad, unbelievable but true. I had someone withdrawing money from my bank of america account every month. The bank refused to identify who was withdrawing the money or to stop it from occuring in the future. I threatened them with a lawyer and they laughed.
So again, who needs a password in the US?
I know several times where row ACLs, enforced by encryption, would have been a really helpful thing. I don't see that this article mentions if that functionality would be built in or not - but I can say that with some of the new government laws regarding privacy the first vendor who provides it will have a compelling product.
What I mean by row level ACLs is the ability to give someone access to a particular row (ie a patient) of data but not the whole database. Not pointless at all, in fact required by law in the US currently, yet no vendor I know of can provide it.
I also know Tom Rizzo - the guy quoted in the article. He's a real good guy - did wonders for the Exchange product line. Good luck to him.
Yeah, I mean he's a smart guy and all, and smart guys know how to make more money. The only thing I could think of was he's still mad his blowfish didnt get picked for AES. But surely there's better targets than WinZip. Some of the scenarios in his paper border on rediculous. Not that they aren't true, but they would apply to any algorithms, including his own.
I know from first hand experience, Bruce will say whatever Bruce is paid to say. Anyone care to speculate who and why he was paid to dis WinZip?
Big hint: stop thinking in 1D. Ask rainman's brother.