"seriously, 10 years and still we have people (the same people!) who can't figure out outlook?"
Actually...Outlook isn't the worst of them...Word and Excel are.
This shit has been around 10 years??
I guess I led a sheltered life...I'd not run into this till late last year, but, then again, not a heavy windows user in past years. I'd survived on XP and the normal version of office before the 'change'.
"Under the hood, the software may be vastly more sophisticated, but in terms of user interaction, not much has changed for more than a decade. And in many ways, that's what their main customers, large businesses want. They don't want to have to retrain employees, change business process, etc, etc."
Well, if they can offer a setting to have all MS apps, revert to at least a choice of classic menus and turning off the fucking 'ribbon' crap, I'd celebrate a little, and at least upgrade for that reason alone.
" The U.S. doesn't do the "well, maybe it was deserved and we should consider our options" thing very well. We'd destroy first and consider many years afterward."
"Yes, I agree with you - win the lottery and I'd be out a'touring. But all the really rich people seem to say they got there by following their passions, not the dollar sign. So I guess the message is do what you really enjoy, money will follow. And if you're lucky, it'll all be irrelevant because you'll be full-time in your favorite recreation."
Ah..but, what if money and/or the lifestyle IS your passion....as mine is? I do whatever it takes to attain it....because it allows me to buy and do things that please me.
"Unfortunately, IT is not the field to be in if you want a salary that truly lets you "do as you please" unless you please to merely live a modest middle-class life with a few fun electronic toys. Sure, IT tends to pay a bit above average, but it's certainly not going to turn your family into the next Rockefellers. If you know of such an IT job, please let me know--my resume is read"
Well, not if you think of it as salary work you won't get rich. However, if you incorporate yourself, and contract out...especially govt/DoD contracting, you can make a pretty penny. If you can get a clearance...you can make even more!! And, no exporting of these jobs offshore. Bill rates of $55-$200/hr are easily attained if you have skills, and know how to negotiate. And, they can be pretty long term too...YEARS of long term on same job, depending on the project.
Sure you have to be willing to possibly move or travel to the jobsite as they become available...but, hey everything has its price.
No, it isn't rich, but, $125K-$200K+ a year isn't that hard to get by on,a nd put $$ away...especially if you are single.
"if I were independently wealthy, no, I'd NEVER work again.
Don't worry, with your attitude, that'll never happen... so..."
Not really, you are implying that maybe I'm lazy and not motivated to work towards such a goal. At this point, I'm ALWAYS looking for a way to make a dollar. The more I make, save and invest...the sooner I can attain my goal of NOT having to work....at least unless I win the powerball, but, I can't count on that.
"Maybe I'm an idealist but if you're just in for the money, maybe you've got the wrong job? "
No, I've always looked at any job in that fashion. It isn't the wrong job, it is any form of WORK that I have to do to earn a living. If I didn't have to earn a living, I would certainly never do any form of what most people call work. I would play 24/7.
I only do ANY job for the money. While I think that your enjoying your job is great, my POV is not any less valid. I have plenty of things I love to do that I would spend my time doing if it weren't for having to earn a living and save for the future, and none of them involve a job in any form.
"For some people, Best Buy -is- the only electronics store for miles around. Yeah, you can buy online, but you pay $20 for the product, $10 for shipping, wait forever for it to come, and hope that your order isn't messed up."
Actually, I find quite the opposite. I order online, get either free or something like $1.99 shipping, but, usually free. I don't have to pay sales tax, and it arrives in a few days.
Unless it is an emergency thing I need THAT day, the only thing I use Best Buy for, it to check out the item in person, and then I go home and order it online.
"You mean his lottery ticket. Unjustified dismissal is still a crime in most states, and he should file a lawsuit for lost wages, plus emotional distress, plus whistleblower protection, plus whatever else the Lawyer can squeeze out of Best Buy/Geek Squad. He should take as much money as he can from this soulless corporation."
Hmm...most states I know of, are 'at will' states, where you can quit or be let go for any reason shy of federal discrimination laws, without notice.
Good luck proving anything in those states...
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"Right now what is missing on craigslist is the ability to safely do confirmed transfer of large purchases. With fake bank checks the norm now, their is no way, even face to face, to say you got my $5000 I got your car, transaction complete (that I know of, short of $5000 in bills, then your both ripe for robbery.)"
I'd do it the same way I've always done something like that...a car at least. I go down to the BANK, and let them handle the transaction. If not a bank check to bank...I like a wire transfer even better. I've yet to hear of a bank that won't do that....
If you are working to satisfy a bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy need then you are a waste of a paycheck. The last thing the IT world needs is another mouse-jockey who can defrag a Windows server.
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Hardly...I work mostly with Solaris and Linux. I specialize in Oracle DBA work, and data design when doing dev work, amongst other IT concerns. I work contract work...I work for money, period.
I don't actually understand why that seems to upset some people such as yourself..? I just don't define myself by my job, as that I've come to understand some people do. I define myself by my self, personality, friends, family..what I like to do..a job only provides me money, money provides me the means to do what I like to do.
When it comes to work, while it is interesting, I have no emotional attachment to it or any gig I'm on. I do my work, I try to do it well, and will stay with a job till it is done with what ever effort that is required.
But I expect to be paid, and paid well...nothing more, nothing less.
"According to this article [newscientist.com] the only problem an IT guy should have getting laid is the fact that an 80 hour work week doesn't leave much time for anything but work."
Why would ANYONE subject themselves to those kind of hours? First..don't work salary, and if you do, make sure you get paid hourly, that way, you never work for free, and 'they' will immediately cease to try to take YOUR time from your life unless it is a real business emergency.
You do this to yourselves.....my motto: "I NEVER work for FREE".
"If you'd find something you like doing, you could end up having fun at your job, and kill 2 birds with one stone, maybe ? At least, that's what the IT field is for me!"
Oh don't get me wrong, it isn't like this is a drudge or anything, I like tinkering around with computers and such, I do it some in my free time, but, if I were independently wealthy, no, I'd NEVER work again. I'd do what interests me, it would surely involve some computer geek activities,but, honestly, I found out a year or so ago when I had 7 months off between contracts. My day generally involved, getting up, walking the dog...hitting the gym for a couple hours, then getting on my motorcycle, and riding around New Orleans all day, exploring and finding fun things to do. At the end of the day, I'd meet somewhere with friends getting off work for a few beers, wash, rinse repeat.
I would have no problem doing that for the rest of my life, while, of course, taking vacations off to travel somewhere caribbean to a beach on occasion.
No, I learned there, that I could easily occupy myself with travelling, having fun in NOLA, doing things with friends and chasing women the rest of my days, and NEVER miss a day of work again if I were to get such an opportunity.
"Was coming here to say pretty much the same thing. If we wanted glory, we'd have become firefighters or something. We like fixing problems, for the most part."
Hell, I'm only here for the money!!
That's the ONLY reason I'm at any job whatsoever, it is nothing more than a means to an end...the end being my being able to live the lifestyle I wish. The job does nothing more than enable to me to do as I please.
If I won the lottery tomorrow, I'd not even bother coming back here to pack anything up.
Work for glory? I can't even fathom the concept...
From the first link: "the former Palestinian foreign minister Nabil Shaath says Mr Bush told him and Mahmoud Abbas, former prime minister and now Palestinian President: "I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,' and I did."
Hearsay...? That doesn't hold up in court really well.
That's pretty much the same on all three links you posted. I don't buy it.
Show me a youtube video of him waving a Bible around like the islamics do with the koran...yelling that it commands them to kill the non-believers...that this holy war is a command from God.
Some hearsay from a former palestinian leader, isn't really the hard proof I was looking for in a public declaration.
"So why is Israel allowed to have nuclear weapons?"
I dunno, frankly, I'm no fan of Israel either...but, at the very least, I guess a base answer would be, that we're not worried about them throwing nukes at the US. The fact that their bible doesn't say to wipe out the non-believers seems to helpa little too.
"...and log everyone off about an hour after closing time."
I try very hard to remember to lock my computer whenever I get up from the desk, but, the auto-logging OFF at COB would bother me.
It takes so damned long when I come to a shut off computer, to boot it up (disk encryption)..then get the wirless lan going, then VPN, while that is going on, with virus check, and then opening up cygwin for xterm windows, then outlook...etc.
Well, takes a freaking half hour to just get going it seems....I'd much rather keep all my stuff open, and lock the computer on weekdays (turning off network connections), than to have to power up from scratch every day.
"When I was in college, I used to get free printouts from people who left their computers turned-on and logged-in. For example I was part of a club that ran off ~1000 flyers each month to advertise various events. I would create the flyers in advance and then simply carry a disk around until I saw a turned-on computer. I would surf the net for a half hour, waiting to see if the delinquent student, and if not then I'd start printing."
Wow, your college charged for print offs from the computer room?
I guess it was pretty much covered on our lab fees each semester.
"You mean like George W Bush kept going on about god during the war in Iraq?"
Hmm...you must have been watching a different war than I was...I don't seem to recall GWB saying that God told the US to invade Iraq, or that it was a Holy War.
Heck, I don't even remember GWB pointing to the Christian bible, and quoting from it that we are commanded by it, to wipe out the infidels.
"They have the money, means and motivation to develop nuclear weapons. Sanctions, condemnations and diplomatic pressure can all be railed against them, but the reality is that short of using military force, the only people who can stop the Iranians developing the bomb are the Iranians. As someone who lives in a country without nuclear weapons, I for one do not see any moral justification in using such force as a means to such an end.
Frankly, given their usage history, it's clear that nuclear weapons are little more than an international dick waving competition. If the Iranians want to pull their yokes out and dangle them about with the rest of the boys, I really don't care. If that makes all the rest of the boys feel a bit smaller, well, I really couldn't care less."
Trouble is, this is a country run by crazy religious zealots, that quote their religion when they blow stuff up. The powers that be over there, can't be trusted to 'play nice' with their nukes. They would be very likely to start shooting them off unprovoked.
"When we tell Iran we don't want them to have them--we're really telling them we intend to invade them. Fairness or lack thereof has nothing to do with it. Do you seriously think Iran would launch at us? Even if they believe in 72 virgins, it would literally be the end of their world within 15 minutes."
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And this makes the report less reliable how....?
Err....exactly what are these 'psych' issues porn causes??
Have you found some research that I've not heard of? Can you post links to it?
So, tell her to quit flashing you.
Actually...Outlook isn't the worst of them...Word and Excel are.
This shit has been around 10 years??
I guess I led a sheltered life...I'd not run into this till late last year, but, then again, not a heavy windows user in past years. I'd survived on XP and the normal version of office before the 'change'.
Well, if they can offer a setting to have all MS apps, revert to at least a choice of classic menus and turning off the fucking 'ribbon' crap, I'd celebrate a little, and at least upgrade for that reason alone.
Yep, Nuke'em...and let allah sort them out...
Ah..but, what if money and/or the lifestyle IS your passion....as mine is? I do whatever it takes to attain it....because it allows me to buy and do things that please me.
Well, not if you think of it as salary work you won't get rich. However, if you incorporate yourself, and contract out...especially govt/DoD contracting, you can make a pretty penny. If you can get a clearance...you can make even more!! And, no exporting of these jobs offshore. Bill rates of $55-$200/hr are easily attained if you have skills, and know how to negotiate. And, they can be pretty long term too...YEARS of long term on same job, depending on the project.
Sure you have to be willing to possibly move or travel to the jobsite as they become available...but, hey everything has its price.
No, it isn't rich, but, $125K-$200K+ a year isn't that hard to get by on,a nd put $$ away...especially if you are single.
Don't worry, with your attitude, that'll never happen ... so ..."
Not really, you are implying that maybe I'm lazy and not motivated to work towards such a goal. At this point, I'm ALWAYS looking for a way to make a dollar. The more I make, save and invest...the sooner I can attain my goal of NOT having to work....at least unless I win the powerball, but, I can't count on that.
No, I've always looked at any job in that fashion. It isn't the wrong job, it is any form of WORK that I have to do to earn a living. If I didn't have to earn a living, I would certainly never do any form of what most people call work. I would play 24/7.
I only do ANY job for the money. While I think that your enjoying your job is great, my POV is not any less valid. I have plenty of things I love to do that I would spend my time doing if it weren't for having to earn a living and save for the future, and none of them involve a job in any form.
Actually, I find quite the opposite. I order online, get either free or something like $1.99 shipping, but, usually free. I don't have to pay sales tax, and it arrives in a few days.
Unless it is an emergency thing I need THAT day, the only thing I use Best Buy for, it to check out the item in person, and then I go home and order it online.
Hmm...most states I know of, are 'at will' states, where you can quit or be let go for any reason shy of federal discrimination laws, without notice.
Good luck proving anything in those states...
I'd do it the same way I've always done something like that...a car at least. I go down to the BANK, and let them handle the transaction. If not a bank check to bank...I like a wire transfer even better. I've yet to hear of a bank that won't do that....
If you are working to satisfy a bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy need then you are a waste of a paycheck. The last thing the IT world needs is another mouse-jockey who can defrag a Windows server. "
Hardly...I work mostly with Solaris and Linux. I specialize in Oracle DBA work, and data design when doing dev work, amongst other IT concerns. I work contract work...I work for money, period.
I don't actually understand why that seems to upset some people such as yourself..? I just don't define myself by my job, as that I've come to understand some people do. I define myself by my self, personality, friends, family..what I like to do..a job only provides me money, money provides me the means to do what I like to do.
When it comes to work, while it is interesting, I have no emotional attachment to it or any gig I'm on. I do my work, I try to do it well, and will stay with a job till it is done with what ever effort that is required.
But I expect to be paid, and paid well...nothing more, nothing less.
Why would ANYONE subject themselves to those kind of hours? First..don't work salary, and if you do, make sure you get paid hourly, that way, you never work for free, and 'they' will immediately cease to try to take YOUR time from your life unless it is a real business emergency.
You do this to yourselves.....my motto: "I NEVER work for FREE".
Oh don't get me wrong, it isn't like this is a drudge or anything, I like tinkering around with computers and such, I do it some in my free time, but, if I were independently wealthy, no, I'd NEVER work again. I'd do what interests me, it would surely involve some computer geek activities,but, honestly, I found out a year or so ago when I had 7 months off between contracts. My day generally involved, getting up, walking the dog...hitting the gym for a couple hours, then getting on my motorcycle, and riding around New Orleans all day, exploring and finding fun things to do. At the end of the day, I'd meet somewhere with friends getting off work for a few beers, wash, rinse repeat.
I would have no problem doing that for the rest of my life, while, of course, taking vacations off to travel somewhere caribbean to a beach on occasion.
No, I learned there, that I could easily occupy myself with travelling, having fun in NOLA, doing things with friends and chasing women the rest of my days, and NEVER miss a day of work again if I were to get such an opportunity.
Hell, I'm only here for the money!!
That's the ONLY reason I'm at any job whatsoever, it is nothing more than a means to an end...the end being my being able to live the lifestyle I wish. The job does nothing more than enable to me to do as I please.
If I won the lottery tomorrow, I'd not even bother coming back here to pack anything up.
Work for glory? I can't even fathom the concept...
Hearsay...? That doesn't hold up in court really well.
That's pretty much the same on all three links you posted. I don't buy it.
Show me a youtube video of him waving a Bible around like the islamics do with the koran...yelling that it commands them to kill the non-believers...that this holy war is a command from God.
Some hearsay from a former palestinian leader, isn't really the hard proof I was looking for in a public declaration.
I dunno, frankly, I'm no fan of Israel either...but, at the very least, I guess a base answer would be, that we're not worried about them throwing nukes at the US. The fact that their bible doesn't say to wipe out the non-believers seems to helpa little too.
I try very hard to remember to lock my computer whenever I get up from the desk, but, the auto-logging OFF at COB would bother me.
It takes so damned long when I come to a shut off computer, to boot it up (disk encryption)..then get the wirless lan going, then VPN, while that is going on, with virus check, and then opening up cygwin for xterm windows, then outlook...etc.
Well, takes a freaking half hour to just get going it seems....I'd much rather keep all my stuff open, and lock the computer on weekdays (turning off network connections), than to have to power up from scratch every day.
Wow, your college charged for print offs from the computer room?
I guess it was pretty much covered on our lab fees each semester.
Hmm...you must have been watching a different war than I was...I don't seem to recall GWB saying that God told the US to invade Iraq, or that it was a Holy War.
Heck, I don't even remember GWB pointing to the Christian bible, and quoting from it that we are commanded by it, to wipe out the infidels.
Damn, I gotta start paying more attention...
Trouble is, you can't bargain with mad men.
Frankly, given their usage history, it's clear that nuclear weapons are little more than an international dick waving competition. If the Iranians want to pull their yokes out and dangle them about with the rest of the boys, I really don't care. If that makes all the rest of the boys feel a bit smaller, well, I really couldn't care less."
Trouble is, this is a country run by crazy religious zealots, that quote their religion when they blow stuff up. The powers that be over there, can't be trusted to 'play nice' with their nukes. They would be very likely to start shooting them off unprovoked.
YES.