He or she knows their stuff and highlighted all of the major issues an API for software like Kaspersky would create for the iPhone OS.
Allowing their software on the iPhone would require destroying the existing security model and it opens up vectors for malware/trojan horses to install at the same privilege level where your iPhone could become a node o a botnet.
The iPhone3GS already has built in hardware level encryption of the entire storage device. It also has BSD jails for apps to run inside of and there is the Appstore approval process.
This "software" could not be ordinary software but would rather require Apple opening up the OS to third party extensions which ran at a privileged level above the sandboxes. I just don't see that every happening for a couple of reasons.
1. The Kaspersky software itself could have exploitable flaws and given that it would be running at a higher privilege level than regular apps, that opens up a new attack vector for web based exploits to use.
2. Such software would potentially slow the OS down and cause a significant battery drain for no real gain of protection.
Much has been made about FUD articles that say that other apps can access contacts without asking for permission. No shit sherlock. That is a "feature" of the official API and the app approval process is supposed to ferret out nefarious uses of contact lists. I would hate to see UAC style boxes for apps each time I wanted to see a contact list in a third party app.
DirectX won, because it does sound and HID input handling, and because its on every PC sold to every mouthbreathing, Best Buy shopping, banana eating customer.
OpenGL is used on PS3, linux and OS X. It is also used on any game in windows that is cross platform compatible where they did not bother implementing a DirectX engine. Every platform now has HID handling and you can use OpenAL if you want to have the same sound effects engine on windows, OS X and possibly linux.
Now that Valve is porting Steam and related games to OS X and consequently OpenGL, expect to see more activity surrounding OpenGL.
It is your phone but the software is "licensed" and the SDK is also licensed software. If you want, go ahead and replace the entire firmware with a linux based one but don't expect any support from Apple.
Having lots of eyes looking at code is no substitute for using tools like what coverity on your software along with test driven development. Humans can easily miss problems with code that a tool or smoke test can uncover.
It's not stated, but I assume by "Mac" he means "Intel Mac" and not "Intel and PPC Macs". Anyone know any different? (I have a PPC mac and never intend to buy another.)
Enjoy playing games like photoshop, World of Warcraft III and Halo slowly.
Eh, but userland is more or less the same. There are differences for IO drivers, and you can use Quartz Compositor instead of X, but the two are very similar.
Reread what you just wrote. X is primitive whereas Quartz is a compositor. You need to add a compositor on top of X to match functionality but games generally use OpenGL which is abstracted from the underlying drawing framework.
I like this "move to Canada" idea of yours, but I'm not a big fan of "Sign a contract with Rogers". 3 year contract AND no free nationwide long distance calling AND relatively small data AND not as many minutes AND no rollover.
Canadians really get screwed on their wireless bills:(
Really? I'm paying around 89 CAD per month for 6GB of data, 250 week daytime minutes, unlimited 5pm-7am local calling+weekends, some texts, free tethering, visual voice mail, call display, who called. Most of the time Americans talk about paying 100+ dollars per month. Long distance? What if you don't have anyone you want to call outside of your local area on your cellphone? What if you have VOIP will unlimited long distance at home through cable your cable company? Since I work until 5pm, I effectively have unlimited local calling.
Well, it's true that there are only about 1500 fart apps for android as opposed to the iPhones 7000, but many people are willing to make that sacrifice. I noticed the misleading article on the screen was posted today on Wired... but it's still misleading.
Games, games games. A lot of high profile game development companies are either not bothering with Android or have scaled back their release schedule for Android due to low sales compared with the iPhone app store even relative to the install base on each platform.
Many (non-US) iPhone carriers allow tethering but Apple strongly discourages it through technical measures.
FUD much? Tethering on the iPhone is blocked on the iPhone on AT&T. It is a carrier setting. Tethering has worked on the iPhone on Canadian carriers since the feature was released in a firmware update. The lack of tethering is an AT&T issue and the reason why they are blocking it is because the iPhone is actually popular whereas Android phones are a small niche so they are not worried about data usage on the Android platform.
Seriously, if you want porn open a browser on your computer in the privacy of your own "home". If you get caught looking at porn in a public place on your phone, you are likely to get labelled a sex offender so Apple is really doing people who have no self control a favour.
Apple is a publicly traded company and they are simply doing their best to enforce common community standards. Publicly traded companies are expected to have a set of values and these rejections are a reflection of that. They are also aware that their stores are accessed by all sorts of age groups and they are not interested in creating segregated sections based on age group.
This is really no different than moderated forums. When a moderator deletes posts or bans members, it is not censorship because they are a private entity. Censorship laws apply to the state.
Pornography has never been about "freedom of speech". It is a dishonest legal defence.
It is true that SI and Playboy are still present in the store but those are both publicly traded companies with rigorous internal corporate compliance rules which ensure that anyone appearing in the photos are paid fairly, not exploited through drug abuse or underage at the time of the photo shoot. These other apps are often created by small fly by night outfits and could possibly contain picture they do not have copyright for and possibly depict underaged girls.
Apple is not interested in investigating the legality of every "girly" picture app.
... they somehow had the resources to maintain efficient border control to keep people from leaving the country. That kind of speaks to the priorities of many nations.
Perhaps one of their priorities is to prevent lone children from being kidnapped by child abusers, prostitution ringleaders and religious fanatics. If my country ever suffers anything remotely close to this disaster, I expect my government to keep an "efficient border control", for many good reasons.
Well it is nice to know that the efficient border control also allows for refuges to starve instead of flee to another country when the infrastructure for food distribution but you keep on believing in the worst of people if you wish.
What exactly are the evangelical Christians doing do make you think that their premise is that the ends justify the means?
I don't know, kidnapping Haitian children......
Were these children from actual homes or were they homeless? If they were from a group home that was destroyed and their caretakers had abandoned them, I'm not sure if that is exactly kidnapping. If find it interesting that while the Haitian government were incapable of taking care of their people, they somehow had the resources to maintain efficient border control to keep people from leaving the country. That kind of speaks to the priorities of many nations.
of course, jesus' greatest message was tolerance. yet his most vocal advocates today only seem to advance the cause of "christianity" by extending the bounds of intolerance
I don't think you understand what tolerance is. If you think Jesus' message was about tolerance, then completely missed his point. Tolerance implies looking down on other people, put up with their flaws and feel sorry for them. Jesus' message called for Christians to not look down on the world but rather to love unconditionally. Loving does not mean that you have to accept the negative behavior of others while accepting the people themselves. This emulates how Jesus embraced a group of 12 flawed human beings and made them his disciples.
Christians are called to change the world and right wrongs rather than just sit there smugly "tolerating" others.
Tolerance is the lazy man's way because you are not helping others reach their true potential.
I'm a Flash developer and I design for touchscreen kiosks, not everything needs/uses fancy rollovers. Flash runs fine without them.
The real reason Flash isn't available on iPhone/iPad is because it would take a significant chunk out of Apple's app sales. Think about all the flash games/apps that are already available for free.
First of all, stop calling yourself a developer. You are a flash/web designer. People who "develop" in flash are not developers. You don't have the rigours of test driven development and the tool you guys use are not part of a "development" suite. Flash is part of the "creative suite". I used to be a web guy but I would not dare call myself a "developer" until I went beyond HTML and javascript to write server side logic, data access and calculation/validation code.
Second, your admission that you work with Flash for a living taints your answer. Flash is not on the iPhone because it ran like crap on non-windows platforms until the 10.1 beta which is out now and we don't know how well their beta for iPhone OS would run. I'm currently running the 10.1 beta on Snow Leopard and my iMac is running about 8 celsius cooler than before when I was browsing the web. Flash was that bad on the mac that even flash ads would use too much CPU.
There are several issues with flash that go beyond performance on mobile platforms.
1. Accessibility. Flash menus are not compatible with screen readers while HTML is designed to be screen reader compatible. You have to deliberately write inaccessible content by not using best practices like CSS markup.
2. The hover problem. This can affect HTML sites also but to a far lesser degree. It is also easy to provide alternatives to hover.
3. HTML and CSS are part of the W3C standards while Flash is a proprietary web plugin. It does not run within the browser renderer.
4. Because Flash is proprietary, languages such as Java and C# cannot dynamically generate flash content or modify flash content. You can pass in parameters but that is not the same thing. It is a black box.
It seems like the Adobe/Macromedia fanboys are out of touch with reality.
Good idea! So for, say, 500 Mac workstations Deep Freeze Enterprise licensing would only be a paltry $16,224.00 (and that's including the government discount). I'd be stupid not to buy it!
How much will extra Sys Admins cost when you factor in salary + payroll taxes + liability insurance + office space each year? Maybe 300,000 USD per year? More?
Businesses certainly run Macs but they really don't have any great centralized administration tools. Apple Remote Desktop and Open Directory aren't nearly as powerful out of the box as Active Directory and its accompanying tools. There's nothing comparable to Exchange server that I know of. MacOS is to business desktop computing in much the same way linux is...you can use it, but you need to develop the tools for administering it (or use some open source tools, etc).
Combine that with restricting macs to network logins with home directories stored on the server and you have one central point for configuration management and backup of user data.
Oh, wait. You wanted "enterprise" solutions that require your constant attention so you can justify your existence. Sorry about that.
VPN capabilities on the iPhone are terrible, if you ask me. You either have to be running Cisco VPN or Microsoft VPN services. Where is the OpenVPN support?
OpenVPN support? How many companies use OpenVPN instead of Cisco or Microsoft VPN? I don't think this is an issue for most corporate users.
Also, I seriously doubt you'll be able to transfer files to and from the iPad with anything other than email. They don't like to give people access to the internal storage because it makes it easier to find exploits
They have stated that there will be a shared storage area on the iPad. We will have to wait and see but it is conceivable that you will be able to sync files onto the device wirelessly and possibly via USB through iTunes.
The problem with connecting it as a drive is that it will most likely use HFS+ which is not natively supported on windows. So it is more likely that you will have to use either iTunes or wireless syncing to get files on and off the device.
If Safari wont crash because of a faulty plugin then your earlier assertion that Jobs was talking about Safari rather than MacOSX doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Read more slowly if it helps. Also try following the link I posted. Safari will crash in Leopard and earlier versions because plugins do not run in a isolated processes like they do in Snow Leopard. due to new APIs. There remains one constant in all of these crashes whether it be in Safari or Firefox and whether it brings down the entire browser or just a process on a page which is the buggy flash runtime. Why are you here defending buggy code and trying to blame it on the platform or program it runs inside of?
Safari shouldn't be able to crash because of a plugin either.
However you twist it, either their OS is crap, their browser is crap, or Jobs is simply talking shit.
Because of the crashes caused by buggy plugins like flash, Safari 4 running under Snow Leopard will shut down the plugin in case of a crash while keeping the browser running.
Sorry but why are you passing the buck on buggy code in Flash. Flash will crash firefox too on any OS from time to time. Adobe has lazy coders who are not properly writing test driven code.
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Allowing their software on the iPhone would require destroying the existing security model and it opens up vectors for malware/trojan horses to install at the same privilege level where your iPhone could become a node o a botnet.
This "software" could not be ordinary software but would rather require Apple opening up the OS to third party extensions which ran at a privileged level above the sandboxes. I just don't see that every happening for a couple of reasons.
1. The Kaspersky software itself could have exploitable flaws and given that it would be running at a higher privilege level than regular apps, that opens up a new attack vector for web based exploits to use.
2. Such software would potentially slow the OS down and cause a significant battery drain for no real gain of protection.
Much has been made about FUD articles that say that other apps can access contacts without asking for permission. No shit sherlock. That is a "feature" of the official API and the app approval process is supposed to ferret out nefarious uses of contact lists. I would hate to see UAC style boxes for apps each time I wanted to see a contact list in a third party app.
DirectX won, because it does sound and HID input handling, and because its on every PC sold to every mouthbreathing, Best Buy shopping, banana eating customer.
OpenGL is used on PS3, linux and OS X. It is also used on any game in windows that is cross platform compatible where they did not bother implementing a DirectX engine. Every platform now has HID handling and you can use OpenAL if you want to have the same sound effects engine on windows, OS X and possibly linux.
Now that Valve is porting Steam and related games to OS X and consequently OpenGL, expect to see more activity surrounding OpenGL.
It's Apple's phone.
When I buy it, it should be myPhone.
It is your phone but the software is "licensed" and the SDK is also licensed software. If you want, go ahead and replace the entire firmware with a linux based one but don't expect any support from Apple.
Having lots of eyes looking at code is no substitute for using tools like what coverity on your software along with test driven development. Humans can easily miss problems with code that a tool or smoke test can uncover.
It's not stated, but I assume by "Mac" he means "Intel Mac" and not "Intel and PPC Macs". Anyone know any different? (I have a PPC mac and never intend to buy another.)
Enjoy playing games like photoshop, World of Warcraft III and Halo slowly.
What, exactly, would they use Cocoa APIs for in a game?
Note that GP is talking about Source engine (and games based on it), not about Steam application.
Off the top of my head, reading/writing files including savings settings/game saves, USB device management, thread management and Core Audio?
Eh, but userland is more or less the same. There are differences for IO drivers, and you can use Quartz Compositor instead of X, but the two are very similar.
Reread what you just wrote. X is primitive whereas Quartz is a compositor. You need to add a compositor on top of X to match functionality but games generally use OpenGL which is abstracted from the underlying drawing framework.
I like this "move to Canada" idea of yours, but I'm not a big fan of "Sign a contract with Rogers". 3 year contract AND no free nationwide long distance calling AND relatively small data AND not as many minutes AND no rollover.
Canadians really get screwed on their wireless bills :(
Really? I'm paying around 89 CAD per month for 6GB of data, 250 week daytime minutes, unlimited 5pm-7am local calling+weekends, some texts, free tethering, visual voice mail, call display, who called. Most of the time Americans talk about paying 100+ dollars per month. Long distance? What if you don't have anyone you want to call outside of your local area on your cellphone? What if you have VOIP will unlimited long distance at home through cable your cable company? Since I work until 5pm, I effectively have unlimited local calling.
I always knew that my general distaste for Apple Computer and its afficionados was based in fact. Thank you for the confirmation.
So you admit prejudice then? Why do you care so much?
Well, it's true that there are only about 1500 fart apps for android as opposed to the iPhones 7000, but many people are willing to make that sacrifice. I noticed the misleading article on the screen was posted today on Wired ... but it's still misleading.
Games, games games. A lot of high profile game development companies are either not bothering with Android or have scaled back their release schedule for Android due to low sales compared with the iPhone app store even relative to the install base on each platform.
Many (non-US) iPhone carriers allow tethering but Apple strongly discourages it through technical measures.
FUD much? Tethering on the iPhone is blocked on the iPhone on AT&T. It is a carrier setting. Tethering has worked on the iPhone on Canadian carriers since the feature was released in a firmware update. The lack of tethering is an AT&T issue and the reason why they are blocking it is because the iPhone is actually popular whereas Android phones are a small niche so they are not worried about data usage on the Android platform.
Apple is a publicly traded company and they are simply doing their best to enforce common community standards. Publicly traded companies are expected to have a set of values and these rejections are a reflection of that. They are also aware that their stores are accessed by all sorts of age groups and they are not interested in creating segregated sections based on age group.
This is really no different than moderated forums. When a moderator deletes posts or bans members, it is not censorship because they are a private entity. Censorship laws apply to the state.
Pornography has never been about "freedom of speech". It is a dishonest legal defence.
It is true that SI and Playboy are still present in the store but those are both publicly traded companies with rigorous internal corporate compliance rules which ensure that anyone appearing in the photos are paid fairly, not exploited through drug abuse or underage at the time of the photo shoot. These other apps are often created by small fly by night outfits and could possibly contain picture they do not have copyright for and possibly depict underaged girls.
Apple is not interested in investigating the legality of every "girly" picture app.
... they somehow had the resources to maintain efficient border control to keep people from leaving the country. That kind of speaks to the priorities of many nations.
Perhaps one of their priorities is to prevent lone children from being kidnapped by child abusers, prostitution ringleaders and religious fanatics. If my country ever suffers anything remotely close to this disaster, I expect my government to keep an "efficient border control", for many good reasons.
Well it is nice to know that the efficient border control also allows for refuges to starve instead of flee to another country when the infrastructure for food distribution but you keep on believing in the worst of people if you wish.
What exactly are the evangelical Christians doing do make you think that their premise is that the ends justify the means?
I don't know, kidnapping Haitian children......
Were these children from actual homes or were they homeless? If they were from a group home that was destroyed and their caretakers had abandoned them, I'm not sure if that is exactly kidnapping. If find it interesting that while the Haitian government were incapable of taking care of their people, they somehow had the resources to maintain efficient border control to keep people from leaving the country. That kind of speaks to the priorities of many nations.
in order to bring about the glorious christian theocracy of north america:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/14/magazine/14texbooks-t.html
of course, jesus' greatest message was tolerance. yet his most vocal advocates today only seem to advance the cause of "christianity" by extending the bounds of intolerance
I don't think you understand what tolerance is. If you think Jesus' message was about tolerance, then completely missed his point. Tolerance implies looking down on other people, put up with their flaws and feel sorry for them. Jesus' message called for Christians to not look down on the world but rather to love unconditionally. Loving does not mean that you have to accept the negative behavior of others while accepting the people themselves. This emulates how Jesus embraced a group of 12 flawed human beings and made them his disciples.
Christians are called to change the world and right wrongs rather than just sit there smugly "tolerating" others.
Tolerance is the lazy man's way because you are not helping others reach their true potential.
I generally don't feed the trolls, but I'll make an exception in your case.
Everything since the f'ing Crusades...
Which crusades would that be? The original crusades against Europe or the European response that came 4 centuries later?
I'd like to see secular humanists wait that long to counterattack. I'd consider 400 years enough of turn the other cheek.
I'm a Flash developer and I design for touchscreen kiosks, not everything needs/uses fancy rollovers. Flash runs fine without them. The real reason Flash isn't available on iPhone/iPad is because it would take a significant chunk out of Apple's app sales. Think about all the flash games/apps that are already available for free.
First of all, stop calling yourself a developer. You are a flash/web designer. People who "develop" in flash are not developers. You don't have the rigours of test driven development and the tool you guys use are not part of a "development" suite. Flash is part of the "creative suite". I used to be a web guy but I would not dare call myself a "developer" until I went beyond HTML and javascript to write server side logic, data access and calculation/validation code.
Second, your admission that you work with Flash for a living taints your answer. Flash is not on the iPhone because it ran like crap on non-windows platforms until the 10.1 beta which is out now and we don't know how well their beta for iPhone OS would run. I'm currently running the 10.1 beta on Snow Leopard and my iMac is running about 8 celsius cooler than before when I was browsing the web. Flash was that bad on the mac that even flash ads would use too much CPU.
1. Accessibility. Flash menus are not compatible with screen readers while HTML is designed to be screen reader compatible. You have to deliberately write inaccessible content by not using best practices like CSS markup.
2. The hover problem. This can affect HTML sites also but to a far lesser degree. It is also easy to provide alternatives to hover.
3. HTML and CSS are part of the W3C standards while Flash is a proprietary web plugin. It does not run within the browser renderer.
4. Because Flash is proprietary, languages such as Java and C# cannot dynamically generate flash content or modify flash content. You can pass in parameters but that is not the same thing. It is a black box.
It seems like the Adobe/Macromedia fanboys are out of touch with reality.
Good idea! So for, say, 500 Mac workstations Deep Freeze Enterprise licensing would only be a paltry $16,224.00 (and that's including the government discount). I'd be stupid not to buy it!
How much will extra Sys Admins cost when you factor in salary + payroll taxes + liability insurance + office space each year? Maybe 300,000 USD per year? More?
Businesses certainly run Macs but they really don't have any great centralized administration tools. Apple Remote Desktop and Open Directory aren't nearly as powerful out of the box as Active Directory and its accompanying tools. There's nothing comparable to Exchange server that I know of. MacOS is to business desktop computing in much the same way linux is...you can use it, but you need to develop the tools for administering it (or use some open source tools, etc).
Problem: Adminstrating a lot of macs.
Solution: Products like Deep Freeze.
http://www.faronics.com/html/DFMac.asp
Combine that with restricting macs to network logins with home directories stored on the server and you have one central point for configuration management and backup of user data.
Oh, wait. You wanted "enterprise" solutions that require your constant attention so you can justify your existence. Sorry about that.
VPN capabilities on the iPhone are terrible, if you ask me. You either have to be running Cisco VPN or Microsoft VPN services. Where is the OpenVPN support?
OpenVPN support? How many companies use OpenVPN instead of Cisco or Microsoft VPN? I don't think this is an issue for most corporate users.
Also, I seriously doubt you'll be able to transfer files to and from the iPad with anything other than email. They don't like to give people access to the internal storage because it makes it easier to find exploits
They have stated that there will be a shared storage area on the iPad. We will have to wait and see but it is conceivable that you will be able to sync files onto the device wirelessly and possibly via USB through iTunes.
The problem with connecting it as a drive is that it will most likely use HFS+ which is not natively supported on windows. So it is more likely that you will have to use either iTunes or wireless syncing to get files on and off the device.
You realise you just contradicted yourself?
If Safari wont crash because of a faulty plugin then your earlier assertion that Jobs was talking about Safari rather than MacOSX doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Read more slowly if it helps. Also try following the link I posted. Safari will crash in Leopard and earlier versions because plugins do not run in a isolated processes like they do in Snow Leopard. due to new APIs. There remains one constant in all of these crashes whether it be in Safari or Firefox and whether it brings down the entire browser or just a process on a page which is the buggy flash runtime. Why are you here defending buggy code and trying to blame it on the platform or program it runs inside of?
Safari shouldn't be able to crash because of a plugin either.
However you twist it, either their OS is crap, their browser is crap, or Jobs is simply talking shit.
Because of the crashes caused by buggy plugins like flash, Safari 4 running under Snow Leopard will shut down the plugin in case of a crash while keeping the browser running.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/refinements/
Sorry but why are you passing the buck on buggy code in Flash. Flash will crash firefox too on any OS from time to time. Adobe has lazy coders who are not properly writing test driven code.
What would take the place of FLASH games?
How about this: http://unity3d.com/unity/
You can publish the game on the web and on platforms like the Wii or iPhone/iPad.