Am I really seeing a slashdot full of anti-privacy zealots?
Whois is a government regulated collection of information about private individuals. Since when is someone having some privacy on the web a BAD THING???
I thought we all agreed on a few common principles here, free speech, free code and RIGHT TO PRIVACY (ESPECIALLY in our digital world here on the web), and that slashdot needs a built in spellchecker?!!
The government has no damn business either collecting, and especially not publishing the details of domain owners to begin with!
"So because someone doesn't understand the concept of web sites and how to browse them makes that person an idiot? I find that a very harsh statement. I don't understand a lot of things in this world (like quantum mechanics and other stuff like that). Does that make me an idiot?"
Yes there is ignorance in the world, all of us are ignorant on some topics. But web browsing is not exactly Quantum Mechanics, if he struggled with Quantum Mechanics for a couple days I'd call it ignorance.
If one struggles with web browsing for six months I'm afraid one has no choice but to accept they are an idiot. Understanding the basic concepts of browsing the web (not internals, not how the web works, not http revisions, not even html, just type address in bar, type keyword in search engine) requires equivelent experience and intellectual capability as bad finger painting.
Anyone with a triple digit IQ can handle this concept in under 5mins. Show them big blue E, tell them click, wait for weird tone thingy to happen, browser opens, type address in bar. If don't have address type what you want to look for in this box here. End of discussion. This requires learning precisely THREE extremely basic concepts. It's easier than filling out a form.
You cannot get anymore intuitive than this, the bar on top says address *gasp* you type the address there. The bar on bottom says "Search" you use that one to search.
Anyone who has trouble with this after 5mins is either:
A. an idiot B. So damn scared of computers because of people like you consoling them telling them computers are complex and you have to learn them that they don't THINK.
You basic computer user needs to be introduced to a computer in a positive way. Basic computer use is extremely EASY. They don't need to be shown in clicks, they need to be taught in concepts to begin with.
In 20minutes you can show someone with no computer experience enough to navigate and most applications within it with relatively little trouble. In another 5 mins (preferablity at another time) you can show them how to browse the web. In 2hrs you can teach them how to write html and basics of how the web works. I've done it, many times. Do they know every detail? Of course not, but they know how to figure those details out on their own now without ever once touching windows help.
I'm trying out gentoo from stage1 now myself and it already includes a 2.6.1 version kernel. That among other things has me significantly impressed with gentoo.
Although I'm not sure I know anyone I'd recommend it to, the wait is only bearable to me after having built lfs systems;)
Usually the firms block it. But if they don't the real wise investment would be to sell the google IPO short by midmorning when their stock opens up, it's the only sure thing.
But since it is such a sure thing short selling is generally barred on tech IPO's opening day. (I suspect because the brokers haven't been stupid enough to buy any of it for you to sell).
Well if your only considering their office yes. But don't ignore other factors. Do you really believe the majority of ANY office holders income comes from salary? If you do your insane, it comes from kickbacks.
The president has alot of sway with alot of interest groups, if he has enough to get the presidentcy (you don't really think YOU pick the president do you? Your manipulated cattle, who your manipulated to vote for is the real deciding factor) he has the ability to severely disrupt your kickbacks regardless of what office you hold... that's much more serious than the office itself, after all, even after your out of office your influence could be enough to keep the kickbacks going.
The question is not whether the judge, politician, etc is taking kickbacks, they all are. The question is who are the kickbacks from and how much influence they have to fuck with one another's kickbacks. The president can veto any special interests bill making it much more expensive to get it through. Therefore he's entitled to lots of kickbacks and can demand a cut in someone elses kickbacks. Combine that with microsoft being one of the largest kickback providers and you have a bought case.
Man are you off. You realize that most users STILL do not know the address bar exists or what it is for? There are a huge number of users typing web addresses they are given in the MSN or AOL search box.
Since typing the address in the search box generally brings up the link they think that is how it's done and never know better.
Trust me, these people are just using whatever is there, not changing to anything.
True story. An old man called who had recently bought a windows pc from our shop. He said he was having trouble with his computer, so I talked with him about several minor issues, helped him get the bar back to the bottom on the screen (he had it docked on the left side and expanded to half the screen), typical user. At some point I suggest he use google for searching and gave him the address.
A month later his modem went out and I went onsite for the service call, after fixing his modem I searched for cleaned off the spyware on his system and launched his browser. Msn.com. "So you didn't go for google eh?" I asked. "No I love it, I use it all the time!" he exclaimed and proceeded to tell me how great google is, I let him take the chair. I turns out he has been starting his internet use by typing www.goole.com into the MSN searchbar and then clicking it, then doing his searches from google.
The guy though msn search was where you put web addresses and google was a search engine where you search for terms. I think I tried setting google as his home page but he didn't get it, I think he ended up having a kid or grandson change it back.
Moral of the story, people are idiots. Just accept that and you will be much happier in life.
actually I was working for Sony Electronics at their Fort Meyers Florida call center. My paychecks were drawn directly on Sony's account at Chase Manhattan.
Sony ELECTRONICS has one call center for all support in the United States. Sony Entertainment and Sony Music are different stories. Sony Canada also contracts the SCISC (Sony Customer Information Service Center) to handle it's support calls.
Goto this webpage http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/
The "other support sites" stuff on the righthand side are the exceptions. Everything else on that page (and then some, clie's etc.) are all handled at one SCISC facility in florida (about 100-200 employees on the floor at any given time). B2B is also actually in the same building as well as all web support. The canadian support contract includes internal periphials as well.
No so much from the perspective of getting apps running on the Mac, but from from the perspective of getting Apple interested in this way of getting apps running on the Mac.
From my understanding wine itself already compiles 100% PPC including wine dlls. Now all a developer has to do is port their own functions to PPC compilable code instead of rewrite from scratch.
A HUGE chunk of the work in a gui windows app is dealing with the win32api. Porting to the Mac means rewriting all this... now it doesn't, now if your own functions are fairly portable then your pretty much set. Write a mac installer that gives your app it's own personal wine world like winex point2play does and this can be completely transparent to the user.
Apple in the mac world is different than our overlord in the pc world. Apple as a hardware company wants all the software they can get running on the mac. If they don't have to write it and someone else offers it all the better.
This could mean apple working on the wine win32 api implementation, most of which carries over or is easily carried over to the x86 version.
Maybe your getting this, and maybe not, from your post it sounds like your not understanding.
Wine itself will be fully PPC compiled, it won't be emulated at all. That includes all wine native.dlls (which includes the most commonly called ones). It will only be actual windows dlls which will have to be emulated to run.
Normally just that case would be $60, that barebones bundle would normally be around $200 if it was decent hardware, and $120 if it was crap. But we'll go with $20 for that.
Going with bottom of the line video card (this entire scheme makes for a web browsing box not a gaming box but hey) that's $210 including your mobo combo.
$400 is what MOST people are going to be able to get that box for.
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even that requires knowing how to run the command and untar the file.
Except the people you con into running either have to be smart enough to call it as an argument of perl to do that or be smart enough to chmod it executable... because by default, it's just a text file on a *nix system buddy, even if it ends in.exe
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Now I'm all for apt-get (although I wouldn't waste my time with debians outdated packages which will be even more outdated by the time I finish going through the installer and configuring hardware). But this bashing vi nonsense must be put to an end.
Ok you have need of an editor like say EMACS which you can use to mow the lawn, make breakfast, consume a few terabytes of drive space and several gig of ram, clone earthlings, teleport monkey's to mars and traverse the known universe. Well good for you.
Personally I prefer to use a powerful text editor, like vi for instance.
But is anyone else looking at this pictures and thinking to themselves "damn I know it's nasa and a different world an all but pretty much ALL of the pictures look like they've been rendered in bryce and such".
Aye it's about playing the numbers, get callers off the line fast and it's looks like your good, they call back and it just looks like your needed that much more.
"You will have a hard time finding a union, church, or government which is NOT a corporation. If a union has a protected union bank account, a congregation owns a church building, or a city owns a city hall, they did so through the laws established for corporations."
False NONE of these organizations are incorporated (I suppose a church could be but I've never heard of one that is). None of them have been assigned the rights of a human being. None of them have tried to claim they are equal to flesh and blood people and have constitutional rights (to the best of my knowledge). These organizations keep their funds in trusts, which have trustees.
"However, regardless of size, why does a person awarded a lawsuit from a company have the right to take everything from an individual who was working in the best interest of their company."
Because the best interest of a company is take money out of the hands of REAL humans, legitimately or otherwise. Every penny in corporate hands is another penny which is NOT in the hands of an actual human being who could be using it to buy food.
"The only logical answer is there was something which this officer personally did to wrong this person (in which case you should have sued the officer)."
You make it sound as if you honestly believe that an officer acting through the company could not have personally done you wrong. An Officer at (pick random top 5 computer company) has chosen to implement a policy that any requests for legitimate windows refunds be sent to Microsoft even though that corporation has agreed to take responsiblity for those refunds. Now if I'm entitled to a windows refund I cannot sue the officer of the company for it. Give me a single good reason WHY this officer should not be responsible for his own blatant choices to fsck another human being?
"A DBA is a fake name to make personal money under, a corporation is a real company who keeps its money."
Unless the owner err officer chooses to pay himself the same lion share of that money he would if it were a DBA.
Here is a quickly found source for the information, you can hunt out a better one if you care or verify these with other sources. (Your lucky, I usually make slashdoters look things up for themselves.)
"Waite, however, didn't give in: he refused to rule the railroad corporations were persons in the same category as humans. Thus, the railroad barons resorted to plan B: they got human rights for corporations inserted in the Court Reporter's headnotes in the 1886 Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad case, even though the court itself (over Field's strong objections) had chosen not to rule on the constitutionality of the railroad's corporate claims to human rights.
And, based on the Reporter's headnotes (and ignoring the actual ruling), subsequent Courts have expanded those human rights for corporations. These now include the First Amendment human right of free speech (including corporate "speech" to influence politics - something that was a felony in most states prior to 1886), the Fourth Amendment human right to privacy (so a chemical company has successfully sued to prevent the EPA from performing surprise inspections - while retaining the right to perform surprise inspections of its own employees' bodily fluids and phone conversations), and the 14th Amendment right to live free of discrimination (using the free-the-slaves 14th Amendment, corporations have claimed discrimination to block local community efforts to pass "bad boy laws" or keep out predatory retailers).
Interestingly, unions don't have these human rights. Neither do churches, or smaller, unincorporated businesses. Nor do partnerships or civic groups. Nor, even, do governments, be they local, state, or federal.
And, from the founding of the United States, neither did corporations. Rights were the sole province of humans."
"Where is the problem?"
The problem is this, a corporation is NOT a flesh and blood human being. They do NOT feel pain. In most cases those "officers" are the OWNERS of the corporation (especially in the case of small corps). If the "officers" perform an action using the company name (you'd call that the company doing something, I'd still call it the officer or officers doing that something) then they are not HELD financially liable for those actions althought they certainly should be. Incorporating is filling out a different set of paperwork, making up a fake name, and calling yourself officer/majority stockholder instead of owner. Somewhere along the lines someone got this crazy idea that if you changed your title and filled out a different set of paperwork that you should magically no longer be responsible for your actions so long as you perform them under that made up name.
Yes it doesn't extend to SOME criminal actions, however that is irrelevant, we are talking about lawsuits.
Whether successful or not a corporation is NOT a human and should NOT be treated as such.
Personally I believe they should all be dissolved and the concept abolished.
Corporations were ruled to have rights like a person in ONE case in ONE very specific instance. And even that wasn't really part of the ruling, it was supposed to be removed and a court recorder put it back in setting it as the legal record. Since then corporations have been operating as if they were people since then.
Those that go the corporate route do NOT have the same vested inerests as those who go the proprietorship route. If I sue a corporation for $10bil and win, and the corporation only has $10,000, but the owner has $50bil the most I can get is $10,000 because the owner and the business are treated as seperate entities. If I sue a sole proprietorship THE OWNER is responsible for paying the debt whether the business itself has the money to cover it or not.
The entire corporate concept was invented so that business owners were no longer responsible for their own actions in the buisness.
Here it is for anyone else who missed it: http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/01/27/m ydoom.spread/index.html
Your right Bruce that is no laughing matter at all. I hadn't dreamed anyone (other than SCO) would take claims like this against the Linux Community seriously.
Well no, not really. You see the kernel developers are not a corporation. They aren't paid, they aren't even doing what they do for YOUR benefit, they are doing it for THEIR OWN benefit.
For that reason, I really don't see why they should give a rats arse what your expectations and dreams of what will be in the 2.7 kernel are.
I'll do better than previous offers, I will offer the counter bounty sum of $10,000,000 to anyone who finds the virus writer and promises not to tell SCO*.
Anyone who wishes to donate to this fund send me funds at wenNOdoy@SPAMconsolidated.net.
Also I'm setting up another fund as a way of saying thankyou to the virus writer. To keep things simple you can also send donations to this fund to wenNOdoy@SPAMconsolidated.net.
Further, I've started a general just give me some damn money fund, it can be found at wenNOdoy@SPAMconsolidated.net.
*Only collectable by homosexual venusians who have been residents of Mars for at least 10yrs and submit there claim and get it successfully verified by tuesday 3 weeks ago.
Bruce, let me put my plea to let us cheer a tad in another light. There's a damn think about your breathing troll a few posts above yours.
Ok, just think about that a minute. Any minute now I'm going to be reading a "In soviet russia..." or a "Imagine a beowulf cluster of $250k bounties on SCO DDOS virus writers", most likely both.
Now surely mixing a couple chuckles about the attack on the great evil to cross the earth since the birth of Bill Gates mixed in with that garbage couldn't do much harm.
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Am I really seeing a slashdot full of anti-privacy zealots?
Whois is a government regulated collection of information about private individuals. Since when is someone having some privacy on the web a BAD THING???
I thought we all agreed on a few common principles here, free speech, free code and RIGHT TO PRIVACY (ESPECIALLY in our digital world here on the web), and that slashdot needs a built in spellchecker?!!
The government has no damn business either collecting, and especially not publishing the details of domain owners to begin with!
"So because someone doesn't understand the concept of web sites and how to browse them makes that person an idiot? I find that a very harsh statement. I don't understand a lot of things in this world (like quantum mechanics and other stuff like that). Does that make me an idiot?"
Yes there is ignorance in the world, all of us are ignorant on some topics. But web browsing is not exactly Quantum Mechanics, if he struggled with Quantum Mechanics for a couple days I'd call it ignorance.
If one struggles with web browsing for six months I'm afraid one has no choice but to accept they are an idiot. Understanding the basic concepts of browsing the web (not internals, not how the web works, not http revisions, not even html, just type address in bar, type keyword in search engine) requires equivelent experience and intellectual capability as bad finger painting.
Anyone with a triple digit IQ can handle this concept in under 5mins. Show them big blue E, tell them click, wait for weird tone thingy to happen, browser opens, type address in bar. If don't have address type what you want to look for in this box here. End of discussion. This requires learning precisely THREE extremely basic concepts. It's easier than filling out a form.
You cannot get anymore intuitive than this, the bar on top says address *gasp* you type the address there. The bar on bottom says "Search" you use that one to search.
Anyone who has trouble with this after 5mins is either:
A. an idiot
B. So damn scared of computers because of people like you consoling them telling them computers are complex and you have to learn them that they don't THINK.
You basic computer user needs to be introduced to a computer in a positive way. Basic computer use is extremely EASY. They don't need to be shown in clicks, they need to be taught in concepts to begin with.
In 20minutes you can show someone with no computer experience enough to navigate and most applications within it with relatively little trouble. In another 5 mins (preferablity at another time) you can show them how to browse the web. In 2hrs you can teach them how to write html and basics of how the web works. I've done it, many times. Do they know every detail? Of course not, but they know how to figure those details out on their own now without ever once touching windows help.
I'm trying out gentoo from stage1 now myself and it already includes a 2.6.1 version kernel. That among other things has me significantly impressed with gentoo.
;)
Although I'm not sure I know anyone I'd recommend it to, the wait is only bearable to me after having built lfs systems
Usually the firms block it. But if they don't the real wise investment would be to sell the google IPO short by midmorning when their stock opens up, it's the only sure thing.
But since it is such a sure thing short selling is generally barred on tech IPO's opening day. (I suspect because the brokers haven't been stupid enough to buy any of it for you to sell).
Well if your only considering their office yes. But don't ignore other factors. Do you really believe the majority of ANY office holders income comes from salary? If you do your insane, it comes from kickbacks.
The president has alot of sway with alot of interest groups, if he has enough to get the presidentcy (you don't really think YOU pick the president do you? Your manipulated cattle, who your manipulated to vote for is the real deciding factor) he has the ability to severely disrupt your kickbacks regardless of what office you hold... that's much more serious than the office itself, after all, even after your out of office your influence could be enough to keep the kickbacks going.
The question is not whether the judge, politician, etc is taking kickbacks, they all are. The question is who are the kickbacks from and how much influence they have to fuck with one another's kickbacks. The president can veto any special interests bill making it much more expensive to get it through. Therefore he's entitled to lots of kickbacks and can demand a cut in someone elses kickbacks. Combine that with microsoft being one of the largest kickback providers and you have a bought case.
Man are you off. You realize that most users STILL do not know the address bar exists or what it is for? There are a huge number of users typing web addresses they are given in the MSN or AOL search box.
Since typing the address in the search box generally brings up the link they think that is how it's done and never know better.
Trust me, these people are just using whatever is there, not changing to anything.
True story. An old man called who had recently bought a windows pc from our shop. He said he was having trouble with his computer, so I talked with him about several minor issues, helped him get the bar back to the bottom on the screen (he had it docked on the left side and expanded to half the screen), typical user. At some point I suggest he use google for searching and gave him the address.
A month later his modem went out and I went onsite for the service call, after fixing his modem I searched for cleaned off the spyware on his system and launched his browser. Msn.com. "So you didn't go for google eh?" I asked. "No I love it, I use it all the time!" he exclaimed and proceeded to tell me how great google is, I let him take the chair. I turns out he has been starting his internet use by typing www.goole.com into the MSN searchbar and then clicking it, then doing his searches from google.
The guy though msn search was where you put web addresses and google was a search engine where you search for terms. I think I tried setting google as his home page but he didn't get it, I think he ended up having a kid or grandson change it back.
Moral of the story, people are idiots. Just accept that and you will be much happier in life.
actually I was working for Sony Electronics at their Fort Meyers Florida call center. My paychecks were drawn directly on Sony's account at Chase Manhattan.
Sony ELECTRONICS has one call center for all support in the United States. Sony Entertainment and Sony Music are different stories. Sony Canada also contracts the SCISC (Sony Customer Information Service Center) to handle it's support calls.
Goto this webpage http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/
The "other support sites" stuff on the righthand side are the exceptions. Everything else on that page (and then some, clie's etc.) are all handled at one SCISC facility in florida (about 100-200 employees on the floor at any given time). B2B is also actually in the same building as well as all web support. The canadian support contract includes internal periphials as well.
If the company's account without the ISP DOESN'T state the company owns it, wouldn't it actually be the ISP's property?
No so much from the perspective of getting apps running on the Mac, but from from the perspective of getting Apple interested in this way of getting apps running on the Mac.
From my understanding wine itself already compiles 100% PPC including wine dlls. Now all a developer has to do is port their own functions to PPC compilable code instead of rewrite from scratch.
A HUGE chunk of the work in a gui windows app is dealing with the win32api. Porting to the Mac means rewriting all this... now it doesn't, now if your own functions are fairly portable then your pretty much set. Write a mac installer that gives your app it's own personal wine world like winex point2play does and this can be completely transparent to the user.
Apple in the mac world is different than our overlord in the pc world. Apple as a hardware company wants all the software they can get running on the mac. If they don't have to write it and someone else offers it all the better.
This could mean apple working on the wine win32 api implementation, most of which carries over or is easily carried over to the x86 version.
Maybe your getting this, and maybe not, from your post it sounds like your not understanding.
.dlls (which includes the most commonly called ones). It will only be actual windows dlls which will have to be emulated to run.
Wine itself will be fully PPC compiled, it won't be emulated at all. That includes all wine native
congrats you lucked out (btw where was this?).
Normally just that case would be $60, that barebones bundle would normally be around $200 if it was decent hardware, and $120 if it was crap. But we'll go with $20 for that.
Memory $70
20gig drive $40
video card $40-$150
keyboard $20
mouse $20
Going with bottom of the line video card (this entire scheme makes for a web browsing box not a gaming box but hey) that's $210 including your mobo combo.
$400 is what MOST people are going to be able to get that box for.
even that requires knowing how to run the command and untar the file.
Except the people you con into running either have to be smart enough to call it as an argument of perl to do that or be smart enough to chmod it executable... because by default, it's just a text file on a *nix system buddy, even if it ends in .exe
Now I'm all for apt-get (although I wouldn't waste my time with debians outdated packages which will be even more outdated by the time I finish going through the installer and configuring hardware). But this bashing vi nonsense must be put to an end.
Ok you have need of an editor like say EMACS which you can use to mow the lawn, make breakfast, consume a few terabytes of drive space and several gig of ram, clone earthlings, teleport monkey's to mars and traverse the known universe. Well good for you.
Personally I prefer to use a powerful text editor, like vi for instance.
But is anyone else looking at this pictures and thinking to themselves "damn I know it's nasa and a different world an all but pretty much ALL of the pictures look like they've been rendered in bryce and such".
Aye it's about playing the numbers, get callers off the line fast and it's looks like your good, they call back and it just looks like your needed that much more.
"You will have a hard time finding a union, church, or government which is NOT a corporation. If a union has a protected union bank account, a congregation owns a church building, or a city owns a city hall, they did so through the laws established for corporations."
False NONE of these organizations are incorporated (I suppose a church could be but I've never heard of one that is). None of them have been assigned the rights of a human being. None of them have tried to claim they are equal to flesh and blood people and have constitutional rights (to the best of my knowledge). These organizations keep their funds in trusts, which have trustees.
"However, regardless of size, why does a person awarded a lawsuit from a company have the right to take everything from an individual who was working in the best interest of their company."
Because the best interest of a company is take money out of the hands of REAL humans, legitimately or otherwise. Every penny in corporate hands is another penny which is NOT in the hands of an actual human being who could be using it to buy food.
"The only logical answer is there was something which this officer personally did to wrong this person (in which case you should have sued the officer)."
You make it sound as if you honestly believe that an officer acting through the company could not have personally done you wrong. An Officer at (pick random top 5 computer company) has chosen to implement a policy that any requests for legitimate windows refunds be sent to Microsoft even though that corporation has agreed to take responsiblity for those refunds. Now if I'm entitled to a windows refund I cannot sue the officer of the company for it. Give me a single good reason WHY this officer should not be responsible for his own blatant choices to fsck another human being?
"A DBA is a fake name to make personal money under, a corporation is a real company who keeps its money."
Unless the owner err officer chooses to pay himself the same lion share of that money he would if it were a DBA.
Here is a quickly found source for the information, you can hunt out a better one if you care or verify these with other sources. (Your lucky, I usually make slashdoters look things up for themselves.)
o J: onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/000464.html+how+cor porations+got+rights&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:54UD6iV_sc
Excerpt:
"Waite, however, didn't give in: he refused to rule the railroad corporations were persons in the same category as humans. Thus, the railroad barons resorted to plan B: they got human rights for corporations inserted in the Court Reporter's headnotes in the 1886 Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad case, even though the court itself (over Field's strong objections) had chosen not to rule on the constitutionality of the railroad's corporate claims to human rights.
And, based on the Reporter's headnotes (and ignoring the actual ruling), subsequent Courts have expanded those human rights for corporations. These now include the First Amendment human right of free speech (including corporate "speech" to influence politics - something that was a felony in most states prior to 1886), the Fourth Amendment human right to privacy (so a chemical company has successfully sued to prevent the EPA from performing surprise inspections - while retaining the right to perform surprise inspections of its own employees' bodily fluids and phone conversations), and the 14th Amendment right to live free of discrimination (using the free-the-slaves 14th Amendment, corporations have claimed discrimination to block local community efforts to pass "bad boy laws" or keep out predatory retailers).
Interestingly, unions don't have these human rights. Neither do churches, or smaller, unincorporated businesses. Nor do partnerships or civic groups. Nor, even, do governments, be they local, state, or federal.
And, from the founding of the United States, neither did corporations. Rights were the sole province of humans."
"Where is the problem?"
The problem is this, a corporation is NOT a flesh and blood human being. They do NOT feel pain. In most cases those "officers" are the OWNERS of the corporation (especially in the case of small corps). If the "officers" perform an action using the company name (you'd call that the company doing something, I'd still call it the officer or officers doing that something) then they are not HELD financially liable for those actions althought they certainly should be. Incorporating is filling out a different set of paperwork, making up a fake name, and calling yourself officer/majority stockholder instead of owner. Somewhere along the lines someone got this crazy idea that if you changed your title and filled out a different set of paperwork that you should magically no longer be responsible for your actions so long as you perform them under that made up name.
Yes it doesn't extend to SOME criminal actions, however that is irrelevant, we are talking about lawsuits.
Whether successful or not a corporation is NOT a human and should NOT be treated as such.
Personally I believe they should all be dissolved and the concept abolished.
Corporations were ruled to have rights like a person in ONE case in ONE very specific instance. And even that wasn't really part of the ruling, it was supposed to be removed and a court recorder put it back in setting it as the legal record. Since then corporations have been operating as if they were people since then.
Those that go the corporate route do NOT have the same vested inerests as those who go the proprietorship route. If I sue a corporation for $10bil and win, and the corporation only has $10,000, but the owner has $50bil the most I can get is $10,000 because the owner and the business are treated as seperate entities. If I sue a sole proprietorship THE OWNER is responsible for paying the debt whether the business itself has the money to cover it or not.
The entire corporate concept was invented so that business owners were no longer responsible for their own actions in the buisness.
I had missed the CNN article.
m ydoom .spread/index.html
Here it is for anyone else who missed it:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/01/27/
Your right Bruce that is no laughing matter at all.
I hadn't dreamed anyone (other than SCO) would take
claims like this against the Linux Community seriously.
Well no, not really. You see the kernel developers are not a corporation. They aren't paid, they aren't even doing what they do for YOUR benefit, they are doing it for THEIR OWN benefit.
For that reason, I really don't see why they should give a rats arse what your expectations and dreams of what will be in the 2.7 kernel are.
Dunno, as SCO has yet to actually state what code they are claiming is theirs.
I'll do better than previous offers, I will offer the counter bounty sum of $10,000,000 to anyone who finds the virus writer and promises not to tell SCO*.
Anyone who wishes to donate to this fund send me funds at wenNOdoy@SPAMconsolidated.net.
Also I'm setting up another fund as a way of saying thankyou to the virus writer. To keep things simple you can also send donations to this fund to wenNOdoy@SPAMconsolidated.net.
Further, I've started a general just give me some damn money fund, it can be found at wenNOdoy@SPAMconsolidated.net.
*Only collectable by homosexual venusians who have been residents of Mars for at least 10yrs and submit there claim and get it successfully verified by tuesday 3 weeks ago.
"Do not cheer on attacks on the SCO site."
Bruce, let me put my plea to let us cheer a tad in another light. There's a damn think about your breathing troll a few posts above yours.
Ok, just think about that a minute. Any minute now I'm going to be reading a "In soviet russia..." or a "Imagine a beowulf cluster of $250k bounties on SCO DDOS virus writers", most likely both.
Now surely mixing a couple chuckles about the attack on the great evil to cross the earth since the birth of Bill Gates mixed in with that garbage couldn't do much harm.
Oh come on Bruce, can't we cheer a little intsy tinsy bit here among our *cough* peers?