I've had a copy center print out a few GPL books before and supplementary PDFs that came with a textbook I purchased. PDF is wholehartedly a much more convienient format, especially with the ability to bookmark, highlight and write notes on the page. And I agree, having a digital copy means you can make unlimited markups of the text and start with an unmarked copy without having to buy more. I actually edit my documents using PDFs in this fashion rather than use Word's (or similar) text markup. Because of the problems with CDs and DVDs (easy to scratch) etc., I would happily buy e-books if there are: 1) no restrictions on use; 2) if I loose my copy or it doesn't work any longer (e.g. corrupted), I can download another copy.
I really would like to see E-book readers like the one Amazon launched recently come down in price. I just don't like reading E-Books on a screen.
I am a bibliophile. I am packing up to move right now. Because of the sheer space (and weight) of the books I have, I ended up selling close to 100 of them. Were they all e-books would be a lot more convenient - 1 DVD. Most books are only good for one reading and occasional glance backs. I would like to save trees, electricity (no paper to print) and make sure writers get their royalties.
IMO, with full digital books, it would be cool too to have some interaction with the book.... perhaps some embedded video relating to the content on the page would be neat. Afterall, there is Flash and MPEG support in PDFs isn't there?
So with the right concessions, per above, and a cheaper and good portable e-book reader, I will certainly buy the e-books.
There's a couple of things at play here. I think standard tests or not, much of the material for high achievers is unchallenging and never seems practical. The science and math teachers often don't understand the applied uses of the material. did quite well with algebra and calculus but never paid much attention. I was told it was for engineers and scientists only. Several years go by and in my university statistics class - which is mandatory for many science, social science and business degrees - I was in awe that hey this is where I need it. English class was all about learning Shakespeare. Unfortunately for the students caught in standardized lessons, a hard reality sets in for college/university bound students that need to write term papers. The 5 paragraph essay is useless as are the Coles Notes.
I went to a junior high where it was apparently cool and really smart to fail grades several times. Some of those kids knew all the answers but using drugs was their priority. That clearly held back students. There are many junior high and high schools in the same dilemma. There needs to be more discipline and more serious consequences for drug use, and more counseling for failing students - not all of it is academic ability.
The Special Forces have been doing this since the Second World war and perhaps well before then. I don't know much about older warfare, but in what I've read of Samurai culture, I think Ninjas did pretty much the same thing. In any case, the more "modern" and well-documented use of these tactics were used (in my limited knowledge of) the Vietnam War and the Cold War.
John Rambo rewrote all the Special Forces manuals. Rather than use intelligence and counter-intelligence assets and local government involvement, etc. etc. the enemies seemed to flock towards him and he'd mow them down. On his Third (III) publicly acknowledged mission, he fought so easily in Afghanistan.
I know this is a very crude context or suggestion, but why are we distributing aid to African countries in large numbers? While the problems in Africa are broad and caused by different factors, we're *adding* to their problems. With enough food and medicine to extend the life and survivability of children to adulthood, it is certain that they will also have children by ensuring the younger populations reach the age of reproductivity. Thus ensuring that the population experiences exponential increases.
My heart does bleed for the African people, and those of other poor nations. But as a whole, we are sacrificing the survivability of entire populations and decreasing the quality of life of everyone there by giving what amounts to the bare minimum amount of food, medicine and other goods.
Hardy, har, har. In case your inquiring mind wants to know. I had an iMac G5, needed to sell it for cash and then bought a new, faster PC for significantly less than a new iMac. I'll consider getting a mini at some point in the future, OS X is nice to use, but the hardware is pricy and I couldn't afford it.
Yeah, I had considered the options and decided to plunk down the $50 for the Windows software. OS X doesn't natively let you format ext partitions (there's probably a way after creating partitions during the OSX install, but hey, I'm just lazy). HFS and HFS+ tend to work better in OS X then UFS which is the other install option.
I just thought it would be a neat idea to through out the ZFS idea and see what others thought. I figure OpenSolaris might be the start of Sun letting go of some of the license terms.
I don't know a whole heck of a lot of the technical details on ZFS. What I have read and understood, it sounds like what ZFS offers is something that every OS should include in its file system. Since, as I understand the BSDs and many Linux distros are starting to include (albeit limited/beta/alpha) ZFS support, and the long-rumored OS X inclusion being confirmed, could this be a universal file system for Operating systems? I would definitely like to see ZFS as a bootable Windows file system.
Say I have a portable USB hard drive or a dead motherboard in one system and want to retrieve the data off a hard drive. One computer has Windows and the other is Nix or OSX. Generally, the file system one could use that *should* work between Windows, Mac and 'Nix was Fat32. There are some issues with FAT32, the least of which is lack of support for large hard drives. The only other ways I can think of transferring the data are via Network or using a OS hook to read the data.
I just switched from Apple to Windows. I've been using an app to read my HFS+ file system on Windows to get data off the hard drive. It works well, but its not build-in. Nor is read/write NTFS access in other OSes. In any case, getting the data has been a bit of a pain. A standard file system I can just plug in a drive no problem would be awesome.
I like the idea of instant messaging but I prefer e-mail to IM. Reasons? Overuse of IM lingo, short answers to complicated questions and the non-business tone of the exchange.
Per parent, this is what I don't understand. I think they're taking a hit because a lot of people don't want to sign a contract with one of the providers that has an exclusive. I signed a Blackberry contract in Canada because there was a choice among different providers. I went by the reputation of the company I was going to sign-up with.
Yes but they certainly have not perfected the fine art. When I commented on the original article, http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/01/2048205, I made a comment about the chicken and egg riddle. Now suppose that the machine being duplicated is in the process of making an egg. Does the duplicate produce an egg or a chicken?
With dial up access if you kept the line saturated for an entire month (assuming ISP would let you) you can download roughly 18 GB/mnth. Many providers are now charging $14 to $20 a month for this. A heavy downloader, at the least can do about 9 GB. This doesn't seem that far off the limits set by TW Cable for high-speed. Indeed, it does appear to be price gouging.
I'd take issue with the metered access from a few other POVs as well. Though TW provides the cable service the customers have already been double billed. One they're paying for the service and two taxpayers have also footed the bill in some shape or another for TW to install cable in the area and ditto the telecos. The cable companies are also starting on VoIP service and digital cable. Both are "large" investments and what better way to prevent your users from using other providers on the Internet than by Qos, traffic shaping and metered internet access. VoIP from the cable provider, should it ever warrant, will surely be unlimited bandwidth and not could on the Internet account.
It seems Beaumont, TX always gets to be a test-market whether for TW or others. Is there any particular reason?
Somehow, I'm thinking this could be used to cook bacon (maybe because its 9:00 in the morning). Then again, grease and oil makes bacon good. MIT better not ruin my bacon-eating-experience!!!!
After the big summer-time power outage a few years ago in Eastern Canada and the US, there was a whole lot of pressure to increase power conservation. At that time, I started turning off the light in my office and only used the lights in my place when essential. I found shopping at the mall more relaxing (and I spent more) and I was more productive at work. If the Prism glass takes off and becomes affordable, I'll certainly buy one.
Otherwise, I have a few prisms I bought for $5. I won't mind if after crazy-gluing them together it makes a less-than-perfect "window". Duct tape might hold better, but letting light though could be a problem.
Since the timing is only 2 weeks away from WWDC, I think this is going to be used as filler material for the Keynote. "We just released 10.5.3 and it, like Leopard, have been doing phenomenally well......". Timing seems a bit too convenient. Yes, I know they've been working on this for several months. Still.
Here's the details on the PAR files (its on Sourceforge), and its cross-platform: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parchive. PAR has noting to do with RAR.
And yes, it still negates the usefulness of backups when the media is unreliable as you mention(ed). If you don't end up with a bad hard drive then it tends to be more reliable at backups. I'd considered using Tape, but having very little experience using them, and based on what I've read on the Net, they can still be unreliable thus the rotating backup scheme. DVD-RAM seems great but is hard to find drives. The caddys are/were a great idea. I hope this new format adopts it and DVD-RAM style file system. If manufacturers pro port 20-year+ longevity on media, then back-it up with a warranty. I should be able to return DVDs that have failed within 2-years (I would say out of 100 DVDs only 10 have failed). Those are out of the ones I've had time to test. And others from years before (about 40 CDs) and have already been backuped (ironically onto DVDs) mostly all the CDs have failed in 5 years.
Even 3.5 and 5.25" floppys were more reliable. I think my Win 95 on 40 Floppys still works. I've worked in Government and many employees are sticking CDs, DVDs and floppies into archives relying on the 20+ year longevity quoted by the manufacturer. Burnable CDs, let alone DVDs, have not been around for 20 years (esp manufactured *cheaply* as today). It certainly does not stand the test of time, and doesn't tend to last anywhere near that either!
I've about 1 GB of personal work I absolutely have to have reliable backups of. So I've burned to several CDs and DVDs (different manufacturers) and I've created a RAR file and PAR archive with 100% recovery record. Its CPU intensive (esp on my P4 rig, Core2 might not be as bad) and takes a few hours to do it all). I stored some of the backups in a fire-proof safe. I sleep better at night!
I'd love to see these discs come to market. But, the media has to be affordable. $10 to $30 a disc would be great. At the least, I hope a higher premium might deter most companies for making cheapo discs as has happened with CDs and DVDs. I started to use Tayis but I've been using HP, Verbatim as alternate backups. This is really a serious waste of resources when one or two discs don't do the trick. Sigh.
At the least, give the guy some credit. I heard his interview on CBC radio. He setup the experiment in his own house and on his own time. Based on his interview, this kid I believe did it himself - no fancy schmancy vocabulary from him just an ordinary 16 yr. old.
I've seen and heard of many of the experiments some people are running now a days as a HS science fair project. Its quite obvious from the complexity of the work of some projects that mommy, daddy or very good family friend happens to work in the same field as the kid's project. Wonder who did all the work and research? There's money and admittance to good universities - a lot at stake - for a project. Its no wonder many of the "science fair" winners get media coverage for their groundbreaking research.
This has far more implications than just Bell Canada. ISPs used to be a dime a dozen. There were always the big ones but there was always other smaller ones around and were at least profitable. Now the biggest ISPs are (trying) to crush everyting in thier path. Why? Many offer satellite TV, cable TV, own video stores (aka Rogers), hold a miscellany of TV shows/assets, and moreso in the States own or are deeply connected through parent companies to Movie Studios and Record Labels.
Of course they want to shape traffic. They want to curb people from using YouTube. They want to block people from accessing legal or illegal IP from the Internet, even moreso the legal stuff. If you can get free, movies, music, news, books and magazines (latter applies to an AOLTW) then it stops them from making money generally off advertising revenue.
Bell has long been a backhand dealer. It says one thing to the public, media and regulators and is always playing something behind their backs. When the "CRTC" questions them on it, Bell says they've already implemented the system, etc etc, and its too late to change. The CRTC then says no problem and lets them continue.
While I'm at it and I only care for Bell because it employs a lot of people: fix your customer service (esp in the retail stores... waiting 30 minutes for a question to be answered!), billing issues and ensure customer's bills are the same price every month. You might find happier customers.
Its one thing to be a beta tester, but, you seem overly enthusiastic. It's only RC1. Too bad you're probably not being paid to surf the internet four days straight without a break. At least take the weekend off.
Now perhaps I'm over-associating the Bletchley work. But I'd have to think, that at the very least, this is a "Good Cause" to support. But I believe a museum designation is long-overdue for Bletchley - or a Heritage building which must be preserved. A statue of some of the fine men and women who worked there might draw people's attention to their efforts. I think its because the people at Bletchley weren't soldiers that they haven't garnered public attention or praise which is why Bletchley remains in the condition its in. Its a sad reality when the artsy fartsies are the first one to always get new museums or funding for museums. And indeed, they're the ones who fight for buildings to be preserved for Historic reasons. Where are they in this case? These would have been the last people to pickup a rifle in WWII.
Members of the public probably don't know or understand (e.g. lack of knowledge of the military) the contributions at Bletchley. I'm not one to usually fight for heritage properties or a museum. But for goodness sake, the worked they did helped destroy countless U-boats (my Canadian grandfather worked on shipping lines crossing the Atlantic risking his neck each time he crossed and so many perished because of the U-Boats), helped gather countless intel on German operations, helped confirm the D-Day operation date and continued to spy on the Germans (just to make sure they weren't up to anything) after WWII. It saved the lives of countless Army, Air and Navy men and women of all nationalities that served in WWII on the European front. And, indirectly, because of this work, it helped put a stop to the Concentration Camps.
Why the hell are they not getting the due respect and attention that they so rightly desire? This is a disgrace. Were I British, I would be fighting for the preservation of this building. I'm not sure that as a Canadian, my words will count for much.
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I've had a copy center print out a few GPL books before and supplementary PDFs that came with a textbook I purchased. PDF is wholehartedly a much more convienient format, especially with the ability to bookmark, highlight and write notes on the page. And I agree, having a digital copy means you can make unlimited markups of the text and start with an unmarked copy without having to buy more. I actually edit my documents using PDFs in this fashion rather than use Word's (or similar) text markup. Because of the problems with CDs and DVDs (easy to scratch) etc., I would happily buy e-books if there are: 1) no restrictions on use; 2) if I loose my copy or it doesn't work any longer (e.g. corrupted), I can download another copy.
I really would like to see E-book readers like the one Amazon launched recently come down in price. I just don't like reading E-Books on a screen.
I am a bibliophile. I am packing up to move right now. Because of the sheer space (and weight) of the books I have, I ended up selling close to 100 of them. Were they all e-books would be a lot more convenient - 1 DVD. Most books are only good for one reading and occasional glance backs. I would like to save trees, electricity (no paper to print) and make sure writers get their royalties.
IMO, with full digital books, it would be cool too to have some interaction with the book .... perhaps some embedded video relating to the content on the page would be neat. Afterall, there is Flash and MPEG support in PDFs isn't there?
So with the right concessions, per above, and a cheaper and good portable e-book reader, I will certainly buy the e-books.
There's a couple of things at play here. I think standard tests or not, much of the material for high achievers is unchallenging and never seems practical. The science and math teachers often don't understand the applied uses of the material. did quite well with algebra and calculus but never paid much attention. I was told it was for engineers and scientists only. Several years go by and in my university statistics class - which is mandatory for many science, social science and business degrees - I was in awe that hey this is where I need it. English class was all about learning Shakespeare. Unfortunately for the students caught in standardized lessons, a hard reality sets in for college/university bound students that need to write term papers. The 5 paragraph essay is useless as are the Coles Notes.
I went to a junior high where it was apparently cool and really smart to fail grades several times. Some of those kids knew all the answers but using drugs was their priority. That clearly held back students. There are many junior high and high schools in the same dilemma. There needs to be more discipline and more serious consequences for drug use, and more counseling for failing students - not all of it is academic ability.
The Special Forces have been doing this since the Second World war and perhaps well before then. I don't know much about older warfare, but in what I've read of Samurai culture, I think Ninjas did pretty much the same thing. In any case, the more "modern" and well-documented use of these tactics were used (in my limited knowledge of) the Vietnam War and the Cold War.
John Rambo rewrote all the Special Forces manuals. Rather than use intelligence and counter-intelligence assets and local government involvement, etc. etc. the enemies seemed to flock towards him and he'd mow them down. On his Third (III) publicly acknowledged mission, he fought so easily in Afghanistan.
I know this is a very crude context or suggestion, but why are we distributing aid to African countries in large numbers? While the problems in Africa are broad and caused by different factors, we're *adding* to their problems. With enough food and medicine to extend the life and survivability of children to adulthood, it is certain that they will also have children by ensuring the younger populations reach the age of reproductivity. Thus ensuring that the population experiences exponential increases.
My heart does bleed for the African people, and those of other poor nations. But as a whole, we are sacrificing the survivability of entire populations and decreasing the quality of life of everyone there by giving what amounts to the bare minimum amount of food, medicine and other goods.
Hardy, har, har. In case your inquiring mind wants to know. I had an iMac G5, needed to sell it for cash and then bought a new, faster PC for significantly less than a new iMac. I'll consider getting a mini at some point in the future, OS X is nice to use, but the hardware is pricy and I couldn't afford it.
Yeah, I had considered the options and decided to plunk down the $50 for the Windows software. OS X doesn't natively let you format ext partitions (there's probably a way after creating partitions during the OSX install, but hey, I'm just lazy). HFS and HFS+ tend to work better in OS X then UFS which is the other install option.
I just thought it would be a neat idea to through out the ZFS idea and see what others thought. I figure OpenSolaris might be the start of Sun letting go of some of the license terms.
I don't know a whole heck of a lot of the technical details on ZFS. What I have read and understood, it sounds like what ZFS offers is something that every OS should include in its file system. Since, as I understand the BSDs and many Linux distros are starting to include (albeit limited/beta/alpha) ZFS support, and the long-rumored OS X inclusion being confirmed, could this be a universal file system for Operating systems? I would definitely like to see ZFS as a bootable Windows file system.
Say I have a portable USB hard drive or a dead motherboard in one system and want to retrieve the data off a hard drive. One computer has Windows and the other is Nix or OSX. Generally, the file system one could use that *should* work between Windows, Mac and 'Nix was Fat32. There are some issues with FAT32, the least of which is lack of support for large hard drives. The only other ways I can think of transferring the data are via Network or using a OS hook to read the data.
I just switched from Apple to Windows. I've been using an app to read my HFS+ file system on Windows to get data off the hard drive. It works well, but its not build-in. Nor is read/write NTFS access in other OSes. In any case, getting the data has been a bit of a pain. A standard file system I can just plug in a drive no problem would be awesome.
I like the idea of instant messaging but I prefer e-mail to IM. Reasons? Overuse of IM lingo, short answers to complicated questions and the non-business tone of the exchange.
Per parent, this is what I don't understand. I think they're taking a hit because a lot of people don't want to sign a contract with one of the providers that has an exclusive. I signed a Blackberry contract in Canada because there was a choice among different providers. I went by the reputation of the company I was going to sign-up with.
Yes but they certainly have not perfected the fine art. When I commented on the original article, http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/01/2048205, I made a comment about the chicken and egg riddle. Now suppose that the machine being duplicated is in the process of making an egg. Does the duplicate produce an egg or a chicken?
I guess this is being announced because after said speech, Gates will lose his voice. ;)
With dial up access if you kept the line saturated for an entire month (assuming ISP would let you) you can download roughly 18 GB/mnth. Many providers are now charging $14 to $20 a month for this. A heavy downloader, at the least can do about 9 GB. This doesn't seem that far off the limits set by TW Cable for high-speed. Indeed, it does appear to be price gouging.
I'd take issue with the metered access from a few other POVs as well. Though TW provides the cable service the customers have already been double billed. One they're paying for the service and two taxpayers have also footed the bill in some shape or another for TW to install cable in the area and ditto the telecos. The cable companies are also starting on VoIP service and digital cable. Both are "large" investments and what better way to prevent your users from using other providers on the Internet than by Qos, traffic shaping and metered internet access. VoIP from the cable provider, should it ever warrant, will surely be unlimited bandwidth and not could on the Internet account.
It seems Beaumont, TX always gets to be a test-market whether for TW or others. Is there any particular reason?
A miniature ball with its own force of gravity. Who else thought this is a Katamari Damacy in the making?!
Somehow, I'm thinking this could be used to cook bacon (maybe because its 9:00 in the morning). Then again, grease and oil makes bacon good. MIT better not ruin my bacon-eating-experience!!!!
After the big summer-time power outage a few years ago in Eastern Canada and the US, there was a whole lot of pressure to increase power conservation. At that time, I started turning off the light in my office and only used the lights in my place when essential. I found shopping at the mall more relaxing (and I spent more) and I was more productive at work. If the Prism glass takes off and becomes affordable, I'll certainly buy one.
Otherwise, I have a few prisms I bought for $5. I won't mind if after crazy-gluing them together it makes a less-than-perfect "window". Duct tape might hold better, but letting light though could be a problem.
Since the timing is only 2 weeks away from WWDC, I think this is going to be used as filler material for the Keynote. "We just released 10.5.3 and it, like Leopard, have been doing phenomenally well......". Timing seems a bit too convenient. Yes, I know they've been working on this for several months. Still.
Here's the details on the PAR files (its on Sourceforge), and its cross-platform: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parchive. PAR has noting to do with RAR.
And yes, it still negates the usefulness of backups when the media is unreliable as you mention(ed). If you don't end up with a bad hard drive then it tends to be more reliable at backups. I'd considered using Tape, but having very little experience using them, and based on what I've read on the Net, they can still be unreliable thus the rotating backup scheme. DVD-RAM seems great but is hard to find drives. The caddys are/were a great idea. I hope this new format adopts it and DVD-RAM style file system. If manufacturers pro port 20-year+ longevity on media, then back-it up with a warranty. I should be able to return DVDs that have failed within 2-years (I would say out of 100 DVDs only 10 have failed). Those are out of the ones I've had time to test. And others from years before (about 40 CDs) and have already been backuped (ironically onto DVDs) mostly all the CDs have failed in 5 years.
Even 3.5 and 5.25" floppys were more reliable. I think my Win 95 on 40 Floppys still works. I've worked in Government and many employees are sticking CDs, DVDs and floppies into archives relying on the 20+ year longevity quoted by the manufacturer. Burnable CDs, let alone DVDs, have not been around for 20 years (esp manufactured *cheaply* as today). It certainly does not stand the test of time, and doesn't tend to last anywhere near that either!
I've about 1 GB of personal work I absolutely have to have reliable backups of. So I've burned to several CDs and DVDs (different manufacturers) and I've created a RAR file and PAR archive with 100% recovery record. Its CPU intensive (esp on my P4 rig, Core2 might not be as bad) and takes a few hours to do it all). I stored some of the backups in a fire-proof safe. I sleep better at night!
I'd love to see these discs come to market. But, the media has to be affordable. $10 to $30 a disc would be great. At the least, I hope a higher premium might deter most companies for making cheapo discs as has happened with CDs and DVDs. I started to use Tayis but I've been using HP, Verbatim as alternate backups. This is really a serious waste of resources when one or two discs don't do the trick. Sigh.
"developed by Call/Recall in partnership" == Total Recall ??!!
At the least, give the guy some credit. I heard his interview on CBC radio. He setup the experiment in his own house and on his own time. Based on his interview, this kid I believe did it himself - no fancy schmancy vocabulary from him just an ordinary 16 yr. old.
I've seen and heard of many of the experiments some people are running now a days as a HS science fair project. Its quite obvious from the complexity of the work of some projects that mommy, daddy or very good family friend happens to work in the same field as the kid's project. Wonder who did all the work and research? There's money and admittance to good universities - a lot at stake - for a project. Its no wonder many of the "science fair" winners get media coverage for their groundbreaking research.
This has far more implications than just Bell Canada. ISPs used to be a dime a dozen. There were always the big ones but there was always other smaller ones around and were at least profitable. Now the biggest ISPs are (trying) to crush everyting in thier path. Why? Many offer satellite TV, cable TV, own video stores (aka Rogers), hold a miscellany of TV shows/assets, and moreso in the States own or are deeply connected through parent companies to Movie Studios and Record Labels.
... waiting 30 minutes for a question to be answered!), billing issues and ensure customer's bills are the same price every month. You might find happier customers.
Of course they want to shape traffic. They want to curb people from using YouTube. They want to block people from accessing legal or illegal IP from the Internet, even moreso the legal stuff. If you can get free, movies, music, news, books and magazines (latter applies to an AOLTW) then it stops them from making money generally off advertising revenue.
Bell has long been a backhand dealer. It says one thing to the public, media and regulators and is always playing something behind their backs. When the "CRTC" questions them on it, Bell says they've already implemented the system, etc etc, and its too late to change. The CRTC then says no problem and lets them continue.
While I'm at it and I only care for Bell because it employs a lot of people: fix your customer service (esp in the retail stores
Its one thing to be a beta tester, but, you seem overly enthusiastic. It's only RC1. Too bad you're probably not being paid to surf the internet four days straight without a break. At least take the weekend off.
Now perhaps I'm over-associating the Bletchley work. But I'd have to think, that at the very least, this is a "Good Cause" to support. But I believe a museum designation is long-overdue for Bletchley - or a Heritage building which must be preserved. A statue of some of the fine men and women who worked there might draw people's attention to their efforts. I think its because the people at Bletchley weren't soldiers that they haven't garnered public attention or praise which is why Bletchley remains in the condition its in. Its a sad reality when the artsy fartsies are the first one to always get new museums or funding for museums. And indeed, they're the ones who fight for buildings to be preserved for Historic reasons. Where are they in this case? These would have been the last people to pickup a rifle in WWII.
Members of the public probably don't know or understand (e.g. lack of knowledge of the military) the contributions at Bletchley. I'm not one to usually fight for heritage properties or a museum. But for goodness sake, the worked they did helped destroy countless U-boats (my Canadian grandfather worked on shipping lines crossing the Atlantic risking his neck each time he crossed and so many perished because of the U-Boats), helped gather countless intel on German operations, helped confirm the D-Day operation date and continued to spy on the Germans (just to make sure they weren't up to anything) after WWII. It saved the lives of countless Army, Air and Navy men and women of all nationalities that served in WWII on the European front. And, indirectly, because of this work, it helped put a stop to the Concentration Camps.
Why the hell are they not getting the due respect and attention that they so rightly desire? This is a disgrace. Were I British, I would be fighting for the preservation of this building. I'm not sure that as a Canadian, my words will count for much.
Their history in journalism I was referring to is not 10 years ago. Their coverage from the 60's onwards was/is great journalism.