Actually, does the site owner even have to prove they have the right? Can't they just "claim" they have the right in their reply and then the ISP must restore the site, right?
If the grandparent post is right, then the site could be offline shortly but any long-term take-down would have to be done via a lawsuit where, presumably, the initial DMCA filer would have to prove guilt.
I like the fact that I can take a $600 PC, add an OS, a TON of apps and utilities, add various programming languages and server services and end up spending.. $600.
I like the fact that I can upgrade the OS and all of my apps, utilities, server services and programming languages and still have a total investment of $600.
I like the fact that patches to the OS, apps, etc. rarely ever break anything and that when they do it is almost always just a single app (vs making my whole system unstable.)
I like the fact that if something *does* break most config files are text based with lots of comments. (Ok, some are archaic, but not the majority, and usually not for the most-used settings.)
I like the fact that (if I so choose) I can use my PC as a file server for more than 10 users without upgrading to some kind of "server edition" or paying for extra licenses.
I like the fact that my computer doesn't regularly ask permission from someone else for me to do what I want on it. (Think XP activation, DRM licenses, etc.)
I like the fact that I have been able to upgrade my desktop from Red Hat v6.0 though v6.2, v7.1, v7.3, v8.0, v9.0, Fedora CORE1 to Fedora CORE2 and still have working apps and a system which doesn't crash at it's slightest whim. (If you have been able to upgrade [vs. doing clean installs] through several versions of Windows and everything still works... well I'd like to shake your hand.)
I like the fact that accidentally letting your hard drive fill up doesn't do any real damage. (Although it can be confusing the first time it happesns when you log in to a GUI session and are just logged back out again.)
I also like the fact that if I do something so stupid that it screws up my system I can probably boot from a CD, dig in and fix things. (Disclaimer: I know the average user isn't going to be able to do this.. but the average user probably isn't going to make a change that hoses their PC either.)
I just hope they keep a "backdoor" key that can decrypt the data if my key is lost.. and more importantly can give the FBI, NSA, etc. access to my data if they need it and I'm unavailable to give them access.
when your children ask you what grass and a tree is, and why cows are blue, you have your answer.
Of course if there are no humans... who cares if they are blue?
A goal of 'saving the human race', quite likely bears the neccessity of preserving nature to a much bigger extent than we are. Unfortunately very little effort is being given to the real long-term results of our actions.
Let's see. $50 WAP/router = 10 watts. Free P2 = 150 watts. Which one do I want running 24/7?
Ok, lets say for the sake of argument that they both did the job and you wouldn't have the P2 running anyhow. And we'll even assume the P2 is really drawing the full 150 watts at all times (it won't be) while it is on.
That is significant, but not very accurate. I just hooked a 333MHz gateway 2000 to a meter and it is drawing 40 watts (without monitor) not the full amount the power supply is rated for. We'll assume adding a WiFi card will increase the draw by roughly the draw of a dedicated access point. In that case we don't really need to know how much power a Linksys really uses.
At 40 watts, our calculations now come out to just over $1.75/month. Well worth it to me to be able to do things like monitor usage, do authentication or log access.
Compared to $99 for a Linksys, you should be able to run a system like this for a couple of years and still be cheaper (assuming you already have the PC and only need to buy a NIC.) After that time, the recurring power costs may make it slightly more expensive, but the additional capabilities make it worth the small expense.
Of course if you are planning to network a couple of existing PCs they would probably be turned on when you wanted to use them anyhow. That makes the cost of a dedicated access point 100% overhead with little benefit.
The judge should have found in Monsanto's favor for the farmer growing and selling their product, then found for 4x the same amount in the favor of the farmer for "polution" of his crops making them unsellable.
That way any farmer with an "infected" field could till it under, not violate Monsanto's license, and then sue for Monsanto for the lost crop.
so if we patent a cure for x that is spread by sex then we can sue, sue, sue...
You mean like the anti-HIV virus currently being developed?
Consenting to sex isn't the same thing as consenting to be "infected" by the virus. Now, if I had to sign a form or take a pill, or something special in order for the virus to be transmitted, then I would have concented (either formally or by actions.)
Can you imagine having sex with some hottie during spring break and then getting a summons for receiving the "cure" virus without paying for it? In my opinion it wouldn't be all that far from the Monsanto case.
And what happens when all of the canola fields are "infected" with Monsanto's strain of the crop? Does Monsanto now own "canola" and have a right to charge licensing for every plant now that their genetic variant has "infected" non-Monsanto fields?
I thought of that, but the result would just be that they don't get it fixed or at best use the system-restore CD. Also, she and the wife are somewhat friends.
But what I have done is stall longer each time. The first time I came over and helped when they told me that it wasn't usable any more. The 2nd I waited 2 weeks before helping. Next time I already know that I'll be "busy" or something and won't be able to get there for a month.
In the mean time they don't even turn the computer on since it's barely usable. I figure they'll do one of four things:
Use the system restore disk - Cool, not my time wasted.
Find someone else to fix it - Even better.
Decide the computer isn't worth the hassle and sell it to me cheap (would be a good Linux box.)
or Actually start listening to my advice and stop installing every damn toy they find online.
So, if I write a virus which has a sole purpose of installing security patches on a network.. and I sell this as a service some company with the instructions that the "software" must be contained within their network... wouldn't it be similar? I mean, if the virus does escape and infects millions of computers, now I can sue people for using my patented technology to update their PCs.
No, I think if a patented item can spread itself without the consent of the recipient, then they sure as hell can't be expected to pay for it.
I grew up in a family of hunters and therefore around a LOT of guns. To the best of my knowledge not one of them was ever used to kill a human being.
A co-worker is vary active in the sport of marksmanship and has quite a few guns. According to her the only thing those guns have killed are small clay disks.
Today's xp computer can become completly unusable within a month or 2 of internet surfing, and downloading by an average non-technical computer
That's no joke either. My neighbor's computer can barely make it 2 months before their DSL line seems like dial-up. I take that back.. it is actually WORSE than normal dial-up speeds. AdAware, two hours, and a "Cool Web Search" removal tool and it's back to normal. At least for another month or two.
Considering that the FSF often deals with legal matters, it is quite likely that some of these items ARE attorney-client type issues.
So, do you think they should have to pay for someone's time to dig through every bit if e-mail and decide what is privileged and what isn't? Just because SCO is searching desparately for some kind of evidence.
If some of my relatives are a good cross sample, a big part of the reason they don't learn anything is they a) Don't see a need and b) they are more affraid of breaking something than of getting infected.
I blame b) on the fact that they are used to their operating system going down in flames the first or second time the try to fiddle with anything. Since the default is to have admin rights, they play with something which can break the system and don't receive any type of warning they are getting into dangerous territory.
a) Seems to come from the belief that they can only get a virus if they open an attachment. MS downplays virus and worm risks and all they ever hear is don't open unknown attachments.
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A virus writer's goal is typically to spread the infection as far and wide as possible. Lately, it appears, the goal is to create as many zombie spam-relays as possible. Neither of these goals are served well by toasting the systems that are infected.
It wouldn't be hard for a virus to make the changes needed to cause a system to blue screen immediately on bootup. That makes me think that the virus writers simply don't want that to happen.
Of course, if the goal were to cost corporations and schools billions of dollars, a virus could be set up to spread for a week, then disable the PC. Sure it might cause a mad scramble to patch every vulnerable system, but that in itself would be a huge labor expense.
The real virus to fear, however, is the one written BEFORE MS releasees a patch. If a virus writer finds some other flaw and writes a virus to exploit it, it would spread like wildfire. The latest viruses spread like mad and a patch had been available. Imagine if no patch had been available and one didn't come out until the virus had been spreading for a couple of weeks.
isn't raising animals as food-slaves only to steal their unfertalized half-young wrong?;) Look, i'm just pullin your chain and I don't really think this way. But it's fun to rephrase everyday okay-to-do-things in terms of evilnesseseseses.
Yeah. As with most philsophical (sp?) debates, it probably would never end until someone got bored anyhow. And it's true that there are plenty of people who really do feel exactly that way.
Since this is/. an obligitory reference to old Star Trek episodes where some being enslaves a happy civilization is probably in order too. IOW, questioning the definition of slavery and freedom is far from new.
Perhaps a chicken (for the sake of argument since I don't speak "chicken") says, "This is the life. I can just sit here, warm and cozy with free food." Wouldn't it be quite a big assumption that it sits there staring at the window of the barn wishing it were free?
And what if we freed all the chickens? Instead of having a party, maybe they'd be thinking, "Hey, where the hell is the food? This sucks!"
Personally I blame Disney. You see animated characters of animals who have the same feelings and emotions we do. You see a daddy clown fish searching the ocean for his kid. In real life the young swim off almost immediately after they hatch. They are likely to be eaten by the father if they run into him again when they return to the coral.
I'm not saying animals can't feel pain. Of course they can. It would be cruel to torture one. I'm against animal testing when there is an alternative. I just think attributing the same feelings and emotions we have to every animal out there is flawed.
Hmm... I'm opposed to lamb brains. Not on any philisophical grounds, but just on the thought of eating them.
As far as the eggs go, virtually all eggs sold (at least in delevoped nations) are unfertilized. If the eggs were never taken from the chicken, it still would never produce a chick.
Do you think an attacker who wants to do a DoS cares about cisco configuration? They just want to find a flaw in the code that they can abuse and then write a program to exploit it. IOS config commands be damned.
Not to mention that someone capable of hacking Cisco and of understanding the source code is sure as hell likely able to config IOS.
By alongside the water pipes, I don't mean right on them. Several feet away would be fine. Being well marked and having "tracer leads" both reduce the risk of having it cut.
Honestly though, [1] water main leaks with modern materials are not as common as you would like us to believe, [2] it's usually only ripped out and replaced if there was extremely poor planning in the first place or if a poor choice of piping was used and it is now corroding, and [3] considering that gas pipeline, phone, and other stuff is often found in the same right-of-way, back-hoe operators generally are a bit more cautious than you are giving them credit for. (After all, if they cut something else which is marked they are liable for the repair costs.)
Wireless isn't going to have the bandwidth needed to carry Internet, VoIP and 150 Cable channels. It's cheap and quick, but not a very good long-term solution and doesn't really even meet the immediate goals. It's also too susceptable to interference and eaves-dropping.
Agreed. They guy is talking about building 30 houses, so when he talks about "very expensive" I doubt he's talking about a $2000 budget here. I also expect he would have access to a backhoe and other heavy-duty machines if needed.
More importantly houses are going to last a lot longer than any current "best" solution.
I say run conduit/pipes along with the water pipes, and in similar layout. But of course provide easier access to the intersections than "dig it up." Then you can pull whatever meets your current needs and budget but also incur the minimum cost when you need to change (and you will.)
As far as what to put in the conduit now, contact other communities and towns which have already done this. Unless, you already know how to do most of this (and it sounds like you don't) you should contact someone who KNOWS this stuff. Make arangements to get asisstance if not outright hire them to do it.
OT: FWIW, the air blown into your eye at the eye doctor is to test pressure inside your eyeball. It helps detect symptoms of a couple of diseases that affect the eye.
Start with a shot of a destitute businessman. He look up at the camera and says, "You helped Microsoft take all the profits from my business."
Scene two: A Family standing on the sidewalk watching someone put a foreclosure sign on their house. The little girl looks at the camera and says, "You took away our house."
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Seems like overdoing it would backfire. I know *I* get sick of even a good song if I hear it a ton of times in one week.
If the grandparent post is right, then the site could be offline shortly but any long-term take-down would have to be done via a lawsuit where, presumably, the initial DMCA filer would have to prove guilt.
I like the fact that I can take a $600 PC, add an OS, a TON of apps and utilities, add various programming languages and server services and end up spending.. $600.
I like the fact that I can upgrade the OS and all of my apps, utilities, server services and programming languages and still have a total investment of $600.
I like the fact that patches to the OS, apps, etc. rarely ever break anything and that when they do it is almost always just a single app (vs making my whole system unstable.)
I like the fact that if something *does* break most config files are text based with lots of comments. (Ok, some are archaic, but not the majority, and usually not for the most-used settings.)
I like the fact that (if I so choose) I can use my PC as a file server for more than 10 users without upgrading to some kind of "server edition" or paying for extra licenses.
I like the fact that my computer doesn't regularly ask permission from someone else for me to do what I want on it. (Think XP activation, DRM licenses, etc.)
I like the fact that I have been able to upgrade my desktop from Red Hat v6.0 though v6.2, v7.1, v7.3, v8.0, v9.0, Fedora CORE1 to Fedora CORE2 and still have working apps and a system which doesn't crash at it's slightest whim. (If you have been able to upgrade [vs. doing clean installs] through several versions of Windows and everything still works... well I'd like to shake your hand.)
I like the fact that accidentally letting your hard drive fill up doesn't do any real damage. (Although it can be confusing the first time it happesns when you log in to a GUI session and are just logged back out again.)
I also like the fact that if I do something so stupid that it screws up my system I can probably boot from a CD, dig in and fix things. (Disclaimer: I know the average user isn't going to be able to do this.. but the average user probably isn't going to make a change that hoses their PC either.)
I just hope they keep a "backdoor" key that can decrypt the data if my key is lost.. and more importantly can give the FBI, NSA, etc. access to my data if they need it and I'm unavailable to give them access.
Of course if there are no humans... who cares if they are blue?
A goal of 'saving the human race', quite likely bears the neccessity of preserving nature to a much bigger extent than we are. Unfortunately very little effort is being given to the real long-term results of our actions.
Ok, lets say for the sake of argument that they both did the job and you wouldn't have the P2 running anyhow. And we'll even assume the P2 is really drawing the full 150 watts at all times (it won't be) while it is on.
That is significant, but not very accurate. I just hooked a 333MHz gateway 2000 to a meter and it is drawing 40 watts (without monitor) not the full amount the power supply is rated for. We'll assume adding a WiFi card will increase the draw by roughly the draw of a dedicated access point. In that case we don't really need to know how much power a Linksys really uses.
At 40 watts, our calculations now come out to just over $1.75/month. Well worth it to me to be able to do things like monitor usage, do authentication or log access.
Compared to $99 for a Linksys, you should be able to run a system like this for a couple of years and still be cheaper (assuming you already have the PC and only need to buy a NIC.) After that time, the recurring power costs may make it slightly more expensive, but the additional capabilities make it worth the small expense.
Of course if you are planning to network a couple of existing PCs they would probably be turned on when you wanted to use them anyhow. That makes the cost of a dedicated access point 100% overhead with little benefit.
The judge should have found in Monsanto's favor for the farmer growing and selling their product, then found for 4x the same amount in the favor of the farmer for "polution" of his crops making them unsellable.
That way any farmer with an "infected" field could till it under, not violate Monsanto's license, and then sue for Monsanto for the lost crop.
You mean like the anti-HIV virus currently being developed?
Consenting to sex isn't the same thing as consenting to be "infected" by the virus. Now, if I had to sign a form or take a pill, or something special in order for the virus to be transmitted, then I would have concented (either formally or by actions.)
Can you imagine having sex with some hottie during spring break and then getting a summons for receiving the "cure" virus without paying for it? In my opinion it wouldn't be all that far from the Monsanto case.
And what happens when all of the canola fields are "infected" with Monsanto's strain of the crop? Does Monsanto now own "canola" and have a right to charge licensing for every plant now that their genetic variant has "infected" non-Monsanto fields?
But what I have done is stall longer each time. The first time I came over and helped when they told me that it wasn't usable any more. The 2nd I waited 2 weeks before helping. Next time I already know that I'll be "busy" or something and won't be able to get there for a month.
In the mean time they don't even turn the computer on since it's barely usable. I figure they'll do one of four things:
No, I think if a patented item can spread itself without the consent of the recipient, then they sure as hell can't be expected to pay for it.
A co-worker is vary active in the sport of marksmanship and has quite a few guns. According to her the only thing those guns have killed are small clay disks.
That's no joke either. My neighbor's computer can barely make it 2 months before their DSL line seems like dial-up. I take that back.. it is actually WORSE than normal dial-up speeds. AdAware, two hours, and a "Cool Web Search" removal tool and it's back to normal. At least for another month or two.
Probably for the same reason SCO initially provided "offending" code to IBM by printing the source for Linux. Then basically saying "It's in here."
Considering that the FSF often deals with legal matters, it is quite likely that some of these items ARE attorney-client type issues. So, do you think they should have to pay for someone's time to dig through every bit if e-mail and decide what is privileged and what isn't? Just because SCO is searching desparately for some kind of evidence.
If some of my relatives are a good cross sample, a big part of the reason they don't learn anything is they a) Don't see a need and b) they are more affraid of breaking something than of getting infected.
I blame b) on the fact that they are used to their operating system going down in flames the first or second time the try to fiddle with anything. Since the default is to have admin rights, they play with something which can break the system and don't receive any type of warning they are getting into dangerous territory.
a) Seems to come from the belief that they can only get a virus if they open an attachment. MS downplays virus and worm risks and all they ever hear is don't open unknown attachments.
A virus writer's goal is typically to spread the infection as far and wide as possible. Lately, it appears, the goal is to create as many zombie spam-relays as possible. Neither of these goals are served well by toasting the systems that are infected.
It wouldn't be hard for a virus to make the changes needed to cause a system to blue screen immediately on bootup. That makes me think that the virus writers simply don't want that to happen.
Of course, if the goal were to cost corporations and schools billions of dollars, a virus could be set up to spread for a week, then disable the PC. Sure it might cause a mad scramble to patch every vulnerable system, but that in itself would be a huge labor expense.
The real virus to fear, however, is the one written BEFORE MS releasees a patch. If a virus writer finds some other flaw and writes a virus to exploit it, it would spread like wildfire. The latest viruses spread like mad and a patch had been available. Imagine if no patch had been available and one didn't come out until the virus had been spreading for a couple of weeks.
Yeah. As with most philsophical (sp?) debates, it probably would never end until someone got bored anyhow. And it's true that there are plenty of people who really do feel exactly that way.
Since this is /. an obligitory reference to old Star Trek episodes where some being enslaves a happy civilization is probably in order too. IOW, questioning the definition of slavery and freedom is far from new.
Perhaps a chicken (for the sake of argument since I don't speak "chicken") says, "This is the life. I can just sit here, warm and cozy with free food." Wouldn't it be quite a big assumption that it sits there staring at the window of the barn wishing it were free?
And what if we freed all the chickens? Instead of having a party, maybe they'd be thinking, "Hey, where the hell is the food? This sucks!"
Personally I blame Disney. You see animated characters of animals who have the same feelings and emotions we do. You see a daddy clown fish searching the ocean for his kid. In real life the young swim off almost immediately after they hatch. They are likely to be eaten by the father if they run into him again when they return to the coral.
I'm not saying animals can't feel pain. Of course they can. It would be cruel to torture one. I'm against animal testing when there is an alternative. I just think attributing the same feelings and emotions we have to every animal out there is flawed.
And most importantly... cows taste good.
As far as the eggs go, virtually all eggs sold (at least in delevoped nations) are unfertilized. If the eggs were never taken from the chicken, it still would never produce a chick.
Not to mention that someone capable of hacking Cisco and of understanding the source code is sure as hell likely able to config IOS.
Thanks for the definitions. I stand corrected. Of course it still doesn't mean they are "abused" when you take their eggs.
By alongside the water pipes, I don't mean right on them. Several feet away would be fine. Being well marked and having "tracer leads" both reduce the risk of having it cut.
Honestly though, [1] water main leaks with modern materials are not as common as you would like us to believe, [2] it's usually only ripped out and replaced if there was extremely poor planning in the first place or if a poor choice of piping was used and it is now corroding, and [3] considering that gas pipeline, phone, and other stuff is often found in the same right-of-way, back-hoe operators generally are a bit more cautious than you are giving them credit for. (After all, if they cut something else which is marked they are liable for the repair costs.)
Wireless isn't going to have the bandwidth needed to carry Internet, VoIP and 150 Cable channels. It's cheap and quick, but not a very good long-term solution and doesn't really even meet the immediate goals. It's also too susceptable to interference and eaves-dropping.
Agreed. They guy is talking about building 30 houses, so when he talks about "very expensive" I doubt he's talking about a $2000 budget here. I also expect he would have access to a backhoe and other heavy-duty machines if needed.
More importantly houses are going to last a lot longer than any current "best" solution.
I say run conduit/pipes along with the water pipes, and in similar layout. But of course provide easier access to the intersections than "dig it up." Then you can pull whatever meets your current needs and budget but also incur the minimum cost when you need to change (and you will.)
As far as what to put in the conduit now, contact other communities and towns which have already done this. Unless, you already know how to do most of this (and it sounds like you don't) you should contact someone who KNOWS this stuff. Make arangements to get asisstance if not outright hire them to do it.
OT: FWIW, the air blown into your eye at the eye doctor is to test pressure inside your eyeball. It helps detect symptoms of a couple of diseases that affect the eye.
Hey, it'd be fun to do a parody commercial.
Start with a shot of a destitute businessman. He look up at the camera and says, "You helped Microsoft take all the profits from my business."
Scene two: A Family standing on the sidewalk watching someone put a foreclosure sign on their house. The little girl looks at the camera and says, "You took away our house."
etc. etc.
Lord knows they can't afford to take the legal fees out of a measly 500% profit margin or the big stockpile of cash they are sitting on.