Why are people having such a hard time understanding what network neutrality means?
They know. They just like to confuse the issue. See "The Clean Skies Act" for another example (a law that increases the amount of permissible pollution in the atmosphere, e.g. allows 68% more NOx pollution)
Very well, elaboration... Here's the back and forth, as perceived by me:
OP : Real racism didn't stop the Jews from prospering. VShael : "real racism" is not equivalent to slavery. It was slavery that had the adverse affect on the prosperity of african-americans, not racism. By analogy, the Jews were not slaves in America, so racism was not an impediment to Prosperity. You : Jews were slaves in Egypt. VShael : Even IF Jews were slaves in Egypt, that would make their situation more analogous to the African Americans, ie. slavery acted as an impediment to their prosperity. Which supported my point. In any case, the situation of the Jews in Egypt is probably fictitious and has no real bearing on the discussion.
Even assuming that that particular myth is true (and let's be clear, the evidence is shaky at BEST) it should be blatantly clear that the Jews were hardly prospering in Egypt, or just after it.
If you are, as you say, really curious, and not just some trolling piece of trash, then google can be your friend here.
You can claim there are many studies demonstrating IQ differences between different races, but equally, there have been many studies which detail where standard IQ tests are guilty of cultural bias. That is, if you have a certain type of background, you will find certain types of question easier. And these have nothing to do with how intelligent (or not) you may be as a person.
As for the other racist comments :
"They stink." Incorrect. Their body odours may be different that you're used to, but again, that's cultural. Did you know that we in the west "stink" of sour milk? Apparently it has to do with the amount of dairy products in our diets. I heard about it the first time I was in India.
"They can't speak proper English despite over 200 years of being born in this country." Again, that's just not supported by the evidence. Mangling the English language is not a feature unique to any particular race. For every Colin Powell, Tiger Woods, Barack Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Bill Cosby, whoever, there are thousands of white skinned trailer trash who would be incomprehensible to anyone except their parole officer and immediate family/tribe.
"Their cultural contributions include gangsta rap, glorification of thugs and criminals, the welfare state, bastard children, poverty, low test scores and political correctness."
Factually wrong in every case, except gangsta rap. I'd give you that.
But I wouldn't want to draw you away from Mein Kampf, now would I?
"Years of real racism didn't prevent the Jews from prospering" Were the Jews slaves in America? Did rich white men have them killed if someone taught a Jewish person to read? Vast misunderstanding of the nature of the problem there.
"every problem the nigger has is blamed on racism." Gee, with such tolerant folks as yourself in society, I wonder why.
Yes, Dark Matter does explain all of those things. At the expense of introducing something utterly new and without experimental evidence to support it. It might as well be epicycles all over again.
My point (and where it was in reference to the article) is that the Dark Matter hypothesis makes (or rather made) a testable prediction. And the data refuted the hypothesis. And this experimental result was ignored by the majority. Not explained away, not challenged, simply ignored.
According to the author of the post I was responding to, science is not supposed to do this. "Real" scientists are supposed to follow the data, and be willing to abandon cherished hypotheses when the data indicates you should.
My example (and many examples throughout the 20th century and beyond) shows that human nature means this is frequently not the case.
For cultural reasons, it will be virtually impossible to get China to abandon it's ideogram style of writing for the much more sensible phonographic one. (See Chopsticks, too)
And in case you think "Silly Chinese people", remember the cultural inertia involved in having the UK and the USA abandon the antiquated Imperial measurement units, and their steadfast refusal to embrace the far more sensible metric system.
Except that, for all it's vaunted ideals, science history in the real world is replete with examples where the establishment CONTINUED to ignore contrary evidence until a new generation of scientists emerged with a less dogmatic viewpoint.
The most recent example I can think of is the ongoing issue between MOND (or MOG) and Dark Matter, where the existence of Dark Matter is the establishment viewpoint.
The establishment has, for example, claimed the Chandra observations of the Bullet Cluster collisions definitely refute MOND as a hypothesis (which simply isn't true, but noone thought to ask the MOND people, or check the mathematics).
It also ignored the results predicted by Stacy McGaugh in the 1999 paper regarding the Power Spectrum distribution in the microwave background radiation. If Dark Matter existed, the second peak would be slightly smaller than the first, and if Dark Matter did not exist, the second peak would be tiny. When the experimental data arrived about a year later, the data indicated Dark Matter did not exist. And as I said above, this was pretty much ignored.
I've noted Slashdot has a hell of an establishment bias regarding Dark Matter, so don't be surprised if you've never heard of McGaughs paper.
Why do Republicans equate limited government with civil rights. Arguably the largest civil rights movements in the last century (sufferage, civil rights movement, gay rights, creation vs evolution in schoold, brown vs board of educaiton, etc) have ALL come to fruition from larger government involvement, not less.
You answer your own question. Typically, Republicans have been AGAINST sufferage, the civil rights movement, gay rights, evolution in school, brown v board of education etc...
Why do different rules apply to government employees than apply to the rest of us?
You know why. You just don't like to admit it to yourself. The idea that this is a nation of laws is a well crafted myth, designed to prevent class struggle and defuse the possibility of real change.
Except there aren't millions of enraged citizens who could get off their collective fat asses long enough to get to the end of the block, never mind surround Washington D.C.
This is another example of authoritarianism (right and left) striving to imply their will, over reality.
In this case, it's futile, and counter-intuitive but you have to remember it's a knee-jerk reaction for those with power.
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I never ever understood what the point of Wave was. What was it supposed to do? How was it supposed to be used, in a way that would amuse me, or make my life better?
Not only did I not know, but none of the people I normally deal with over gmail knew either.
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Why are people having such a hard time understanding what network neutrality means?
They know. They just like to confuse the issue. See "The Clean Skies Act" for another example (a law that increases the amount of permissible pollution in the atmosphere, e.g. allows 68% more NOx pollution)
Very well, elaboration ... Here's the back and forth, as perceived by me:
OP : Real racism didn't stop the Jews from prospering.
VShael : "real racism" is not equivalent to slavery. It was slavery that had the adverse affect on the prosperity of african-americans, not racism. By analogy, the Jews were not slaves in America, so racism was not an impediment to Prosperity.
You : Jews were slaves in Egypt.
VShael : Even IF Jews were slaves in Egypt, that would make their situation more analogous to the African Americans, ie. slavery acted as an impediment to their prosperity. Which supported my point. In any case, the situation of the Jews in Egypt is probably fictitious and has no real bearing on the discussion.
Even assuming that that particular myth is true (and let's be clear, the evidence is shaky at BEST) it should be blatantly clear that the Jews were hardly prospering in Egypt, or just after it.
Fuck it, I'll bite.
If you are, as you say, really curious, and not just some trolling piece of trash, then google can be your friend here.
You can claim there are many studies demonstrating IQ differences between different races, but equally, there have been many studies which detail where standard IQ tests are guilty of cultural bias. That is, if you have a certain type of background, you will find certain types of question easier. And these have nothing to do with how intelligent (or not) you may be as a person.
As for the other racist comments :
"They stink."
Incorrect. Their body odours may be different that you're used to, but again, that's cultural. Did you know that we in the west "stink" of sour milk? Apparently it has to do with the amount of dairy products in our diets. I heard about it the first time I was in India.
"They can't speak proper English despite over 200 years of being born in this country."
Again, that's just not supported by the evidence. Mangling the English language is not a feature unique to any particular race. For every Colin Powell, Tiger Woods, Barack Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Bill Cosby, whoever, there are thousands of white skinned trailer trash who would be incomprehensible to anyone except their parole officer and immediate family/tribe.
"Their cultural contributions include gangsta rap, glorification of thugs and criminals, the welfare state, bastard children, poverty, low test scores and political correctness."
Factually wrong in every case, except gangsta rap. I'd give you that.
"Oh yeah and something about peanuts."
Hmm. George Washington Carver and the peanut butter "invention".
If you were even remotely interested in learning (something which you think certain people shun, so I imagine you must value in some way) I'd direct you to read : http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/08/george-washington-carver-did-not-invent-peanut-butter/
But I wouldn't want to draw you away from Mein Kampf, now would I?
"Years of real racism didn't prevent the Jews from prospering"
Were the Jews slaves in America? Did rich white men have them killed if someone taught a Jewish person to read? Vast misunderstanding of the nature of the problem there.
"every problem the nigger has is blamed on racism."
Gee, with such tolerant folks as yourself in society, I wonder why.
Yes, Dark Matter does explain all of those things. At the expense of introducing something utterly new and without experimental evidence to support it. It might as well be epicycles all over again.
My point (and where it was in reference to the article) is that the Dark Matter hypothesis makes (or rather made) a testable prediction. And the data refuted the hypothesis. And this experimental result was ignored by the majority. Not explained away, not challenged, simply ignored.
According to the author of the post I was responding to, science is not supposed to do this. "Real" scientists are supposed to follow the data, and be willing to abandon cherished hypotheses when the data indicates you should.
My example (and many examples throughout the 20th century and beyond) shows that human nature means this is frequently not the case.
For cultural reasons, it will be virtually impossible to get China to abandon it's ideogram style of writing for the much more sensible phonographic one. (See Chopsticks, too)
And in case you think "Silly Chinese people", remember the cultural inertia involved in having the UK and the USA abandon the antiquated Imperial measurement units, and their steadfast refusal to embrace the far more sensible metric system.
Except that, for all it's vaunted ideals, science history in the real world is replete with examples where the establishment CONTINUED to ignore contrary evidence until a new generation of scientists emerged with a less dogmatic viewpoint.
The most recent example I can think of is the ongoing issue between MOND (or MOG) and Dark Matter, where the existence of Dark Matter is the establishment viewpoint.
The establishment has, for example, claimed the Chandra observations of the Bullet Cluster collisions definitely refute MOND as a hypothesis (which simply isn't true, but noone thought to ask the MOND people, or check the mathematics).
It also ignored the results predicted by Stacy McGaugh in the 1999 paper regarding the Power Spectrum distribution in the microwave background radiation. If Dark Matter existed, the second peak would be slightly smaller than the first, and if Dark Matter did not exist, the second peak would be tiny. When the experimental data arrived about a year later, the data indicated Dark Matter did not exist. And as I said above, this was pretty much ignored.
I've noted Slashdot has a hell of an establishment bias regarding Dark Matter, so don't be surprised if you've never heard of McGaughs paper.
It was a joke. Have you never heard the refrain "Maybe next year, in Jerusalem" ?
Maybe next year there will be peace.
Only when all are dead, then, the "maybe next year" will come true.
It's not socialism, if the money flows upwards, and if the rich man's bill is split across the tax payers.
2045 : Everyone's soulmate is given Order 66, and the human race is extinguished in 66 minutes.
2046 : There is peace in the Middle East.
Why do Republicans equate limited government with civil rights. Arguably the largest civil rights movements in the last century (sufferage, civil rights movement, gay rights, creation vs evolution in schoold, brown vs board of educaiton, etc) have ALL come to fruition from larger government involvement, not less.
You answer your own question. Typically, Republicans have been AGAINST sufferage, the civil rights movement, gay rights, evolution in school, brown v board of education etc...
I think somebody should put GPS transmitters on the Ninth Circuit justices' cars immediately, and register wheremyjudgesat.com.
And sell the results as a guide to your local strip clubs and topless table dancing venues, etc...
Why do different rules apply to government employees than apply to the rest of us?
You know why. You just don't like to admit it to yourself.
The idea that this is a nation of laws is a well crafted myth, designed to prevent class struggle and defuse the possibility of real change.
"They were cat-smurfs."
Or as we call them over here in Belgium, Thunder-Smurfs.
Except there aren't millions of enraged citizens who could get off their collective fat asses long enough to get to the end of the block, never mind surround Washington D.C.
And that is my choise and I am perfectly happy with it.
My phone comes with a spell checker.
addressing the camera, simply saying she loves you (and them) by name.
It's the sort of clip that can really lift your spirits years down the line.
"With a name like Trojan-owski, I wouldn't have been surprised" -- Dr Badvirus
I know their parents thought they were.
Well, my parents generation WERE idiots.
Reaganomics my fucking ass.
The SEC were told about Madoff, more than once. They chose to ignore the warnings.
This has nothing to do with being understaffed, though "admitting" you were understaffed makes a very nice excuse.
Shame on Slashdot for repeating a well known well exposed falsehood, and propagating the corporate bullcrap.
"Otherwise, their (entertainment) shit, It Just Works."
And yet, the Ferengi would have been huge proponents of DRM, presumably.
This is another example of authoritarianism (right and left) striving to imply their will, over reality.
In this case, it's futile, and counter-intuitive but you have to remember it's a knee-jerk reaction for those with power.
I never ever understood what the point of Wave was. What was it supposed to do? How was it supposed to be used, in a way that would amuse me, or make my life better?
Not only did I not know, but none of the people I normally deal with over gmail knew either.
So long as there is a healthy amount of cash to go with it, Google will be a proponent of anything you like.
"You mean 'country'."
"What did I say?"
-- Larry Sanders and his agent.