License is then good for 4 years, renewal generally is just an eye test ("No, dear, are you sure that's an 8? Doesn't it look more like an S? It's an S? That's RIGHT! Good, you pass!")
Heh. They weren't that leinient with me when I did my eye test. My right eye is just bad enough that I can't read things that are a moderate distance away if my left eye is closed - a very slight fuzziness.
The executive responsible for bringing Firefly to the network was canned, and the rest of the execs would have to explain why somebody who brought a show that was doing so well was fired.
So they did everything in their power to kill the show.
Fortunately, this is exactly what they get. They lose their liberty - because they've given it up. And they don't gain safety - because terrorists don't care what the law says, and if they're that determined will either find a way around it or find a way to avoid being caught in the first place.
Even worse - once you've given up your freedom, the people in charge (government officials) can do whatever they want to you. So you're not safe at all.
So in order to have safety, you have to have freedom as well.
For the rest of your advice, it requires a lot of things I don't have - several years of time with a back-up source of income that will at least let me survive, some pretty good ideas about design, etc. Hell, Step 1 on your list requires me to already know how they do programming in a company - how could I possibly know this? I've never done professional coding before.
I've been out of college for four years. That alone is a guarantee that no company will take another look at my resume.
Your college should have job counseling services, they can be very helpful.
My college's job placement department was less than worthless. All the companies that tried to work with it hated it, and the only thing they were ever interested in when I went there was reworking my resume over and over, often in contradictory ways.
4) Don't be put off by "local candidates only" - that's code for "we won't fly you in for the interview and we won't pay relocation either." Just get there, make it clear you'll relocate yourself if they like you.
I don't have the money to fly out for even a single out of town interview, let alone multiple ones.
5) Go to job fairs at nearby cities.
Job fairs have also been pointless for me. They always have huge lines just to get in the building, and if you do manage to get in they have just sent an intern with no say in hiring or selection to simply collect resumes.
Above all, follow what you most enjoy, what you'd do in your spare time anyway. The money will follow.
At no point did I refer to anyone with a genuine interest, CS degree but no job in a derogatory manner. I never called you a poser. But let's examine your reaction - extremely defensive.
That wasn't all directed at you. There are a number of people on Slashdot who do in fact say exactly that - that the only people who can't get good programming/sys admin/whatever jobs are just the losers who were only in it for the money. So I'm sorry if I generalized you in with them.
So as a general exercise, what are the reasons you have not found a job?
I don't have any previous paid experience doing whatever it is that the employer wants.
Really, that's the whole of it. And worse, there's nothing at all I can do to fix this without getting a job.
Seriously, nearly every ad I've seen requires around 5 years of very specific experience, and they mostly state that it had to be compensated experience, ruling out any open source or other volunteer stuff I could do.
You say you can't find entry level jobs - where have you been looking?
Everywhere I can think of. Sometimes companies will list a job as "entry level" but then require 3-5 years of professional Visual Basic.Net or whatever experience. I want to scream at them, telling them not to call something an entry level job when it's clearly not.
Are you willing to relocate?
That reminds me of something else - most of the ads also say "local candidates only". So it doesn't matter if I'm willing to relocate or not, they don't want me.
What types of jobs have you been applying for? What are your expectations?
At this point I'd take damn near anything. I haven't had a full time job in two years, and even that was just data entry. I even applied at Costco (never heard back from them). I applied for sales positions (which I loathe).
Ask your friends and family to be painfully honest.
They're as clueless as I am about finding a job. They just suggest applying to more and more jobs online. During the few interviews I actually go on the interviewer tells me that they've had tons of applicants, which just says right there that I shouldn't have even bothered driving out there.
Ask companies who reject you for suggestions of what you could improve on, what would have made you a better fit.
There's no point in asking, they're not going to give me any information. I'm lucky if they even tell me that I didn't get the job.
Like other passions (writing books, racing motorcycles, musician), you can make a reasonable living doing something else while still honing your true passion. And at some point that passion may possibly become your career.
My passion is just about dead by now. Years of no hope will do that.
Now I'm teaching an introduction computer course. Part time, so they don't have to give me any benefits. The lack of health insurance is my primary concern right now, and I'm unable to get an individual plan (two different companies flat out refused me).
Honestly I don't think that I'll ever get a programming job, unless we get another economy like the one we had in the 90's. Too bad I had to graduate in 2001.
That's exactly what they (the companies) want you to think. And to be flat out honest, if you're a junior sysadmin and/or and an MS certified tech or whatever, then they're actually probably right. (Sorry, but that's been my experience seeing the incoming resumes at least.)
Those folks who thought a degree in CS (or even an MS Cert or a 4 week course in HTML) sounded like a way to make a lot of money are screwed.
It always pisses me off when people basically call me a shill just because I got a CS degree and haven't got a job in what I want. I'm not looking for huge amounts of money. I'd do the job for $25k a year, which from what I've read in the comments here is basically slavery.
But there simply are no entry level jobs in the field that I can find anywhere. And even the ones called "entry level" require 3-5 years of experience.
You've got to keep in mind that for a lot of people, especially in this economy, they're lucky to be on an interview at all. If they actually manage to get a job offer, and dare to ask for more money, the company could easily just go to one of the 4 other people who got to that stage in the interview process.
So people know that there are a ton of other people who could easily replace them, especially before they've even been hired.
It's anti-union sentiment. When the employees have better information, it's easier to bargain as a collective. Employers can pay less when they can divide and conquer.
The Federal government had no power to levy taxes directly, they had to request the money from the states.
Not quite. They tried a government where they merely "requested" money from the states in the Articles of Confederation. Quite often, the states told the feds to FOAD.
For instance, after the Rosa Parks incident, Martin Luther King Jr. organized a boycott amongst black people on buses until they got rid of their rules requiring black people do give up their seats to white people. They walked everywhere instead.
Go ahead and post all you want. I've added you to my foes section, so I won't see any more of your posts.
But one last thing - if you had been doing what you're doing to me now in person, you'd probably be arrested by now. Harassment is illegal, you know, and you've just admitted that you intend to harass me.
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Or the luxury of having a lawyer on call.
Most people believe that if there isn't a piece of paper stating terms that both parties sign, there's no contract.
The law disagrees of course.
It's the only reason I wear glasses.
Sorry, what with the war on Terra, the poor economy, and the wealthy's desperate need for tax cuts, America can't afford for you to have a life.
The executive responsible for bringing Firefly to the network was canned, and the rest of the execs would have to explain why somebody who brought a show that was doing so well was fired.
So they did everything in their power to kill the show.
True, but if one doesn't have sufficient money, one's time on this planet will be greatly reduced.
Question - how exactly is this an "entry level" job if you require 2-3 years of prior experience?
What do you do about health insurance? Or are you not in the US?
So in order to have safety, you have to have freedom as well.
For the rest of your advice, it requires a lot of things I don't have - several years of time with a back-up source of income that will at least let me survive, some pretty good ideas about design, etc. Hell, Step 1 on your list requires me to already know how they do programming in a company - how could I possibly know this? I've never done professional coding before.
I've been out of college for four years. That alone is a guarantee that no company will take another look at my resume.
My college's job placement department was less than worthless. All the companies that tried to work with it hated it, and the only thing they were ever interested in when I went there was reworking my resume over and over, often in contradictory ways.
I don't have the money to fly out for even a single out of town interview, let alone multiple ones.
Job fairs have also been pointless for me. They always have huge lines just to get in the building, and if you do manage to get in they have just sent an intern with no say in hiring or selection to simply collect resumes.
I've heard differently.
http://www.martynemko.com/pub/articles/dowhatyoul
Put me in with your friends, except I haven't just graduated (four years out of college). I can't find any sort of IT job at any salary.
I don't have any previous paid experience doing whatever it is that the employer wants.
Really, that's the whole of it. And worse, there's nothing at all I can do to fix this without getting a job.
Seriously, nearly every ad I've seen requires around 5 years of very specific experience, and they mostly state that it had to be compensated experience, ruling out any open source or other volunteer stuff I could do.
Everywhere I can think of. Sometimes companies will list a job as "entry level" but then require 3-5 years of professional Visual Basic
That reminds me of something else - most of the ads also say "local candidates only". So it doesn't matter if I'm willing to relocate or not, they don't want me.
At this point I'd take damn near anything. I haven't had a full time job in two years, and even that was just data entry. I even applied at Costco (never heard back from them). I applied for sales positions (which I loathe).
They're as clueless as I am about finding a job. They just suggest applying to more and more jobs online. During the few interviews I actually go on the interviewer tells me that they've had tons of applicants, which just says right there that I shouldn't have even bothered driving out there.
There's no point in asking, they're not going to give me any information. I'm lucky if they even tell me that I didn't get the job.
My passion is just about dead by now. Years of no hope will do that.
Now I'm teaching an introduction computer course. Part time, so they don't have to give me any benefits. The lack of health insurance is my primary concern right now, and I'm unable to get an individual plan (two different companies flat out refused me).
Honestly I don't think that I'll ever get a programming job, unless we get another economy like the one we had in the 90's. Too bad I had to graduate in 2001.
But there simply are no entry level jobs in the field that I can find anywhere. And even the ones called "entry level" require 3-5 years of experience.
So please don't call me a poser.
You've got to keep in mind that for a lot of people, especially in this economy, they're lucky to be on an interview at all. If they actually manage to get a job offer, and dare to ask for more money, the company could easily just go to one of the 4 other people who got to that stage in the interview process.
So people know that there are a ton of other people who could easily replace them, especially before they've even been hired.
It's anti-union sentiment. When the employees have better information, it's easier to bargain as a collective. Employers can pay less when they can divide and conquer.
No, old people are always screaming at kids to get off their lawns.
So the Constitution requires states to pay taxes.
Not usually, but they sometimes do.
For instance, after the Rosa Parks incident, Martin Luther King Jr. organized a boycott amongst black people on buses until they got rid of their rules requiring black people do give up their seats to white people. They walked everywhere instead.
It brought the bus companies to their knees.
Yeah, and if you manage to get in front of a judge, you have a very high chance ending up bankrupt.
Then land. You can't make any more land in a factory overseas.
Go ahead and post all you want. I've added you to my foes section, so I won't see any more of your posts.
But one last thing - if you had been doing what you're doing to me now in person, you'd probably be arrested by now. Harassment is illegal, you know, and you've just admitted that you intend to harass me.
Look, if all you have planned for today is to spam me with identical responses, you really need to get a life.
Seriously, go to that therapist now. You're not well.
Of course, the unspoken and unproven assumption is that we're on the other side of that curve already.