Ageism, old people won't live long to get much money, and "deathism" as you say can be bad. I say that if they aren't making any more they don't need money to stay in business to make more. They won't anyways. If it is because they just stopped or because they aren't even alive, they still won't make more. You might be able to make an argument with me that the family could use this money so they could make more themselves but even that is unlikely. I personally don't mind if people loot off me as a corpse. It might even help some. I have heard that if tombraiders, no not Croft, didn't steal gold and such from the Egyption Pharoes it would end up being hoarded and not be useful. It also mean tombs and other stuff wouldn't be in museums for all to see but locked in the desert of wherever. If course if you don't want your analogy then this may not apply. I can still use it to say that real stuff as more or at least not less valuable than IP. If Poe's relatives were still alive, does he have any, would that mean "The Raven" is under copyright and his family gets to sue all people for any public use of it.
To sumarize, if IP won't be made the money isn't need to prevent other work so more time can be given to more IP.
What are your jobs and how much do they pay? How much trouble are your children? How much work do you do to get your degree? Do you have any scholarships? How is you time divided? Do you live in a violent area? Suburb or city? Do you have other people to help you such as your siblings?
The job and salary part is probably private but it is just minimum wage? If not then how can you have time for two higher jobs? Teacher by day and superhero, er janitor by night? I find it hard to believe that 10 dollars and hour 365 days a year for 10 hours a day, I doubt you work even a third that but to be [b]very conservitive[/b], that turns to 36k not even including taxes and food and rent isn't much to pay for college.
P.S. As you probably know more about English than me did I spell and grammarize correctly? Well except for the word, "grammarize."
Second, I agree with the parent. You do not own it. You helped the public. The public owns it. You only get a temporary monopoly to allow you to make money so you don't go out of business so you can make more and help the public even more.
Third, if the Const. didn't have this clause then people would have never thought of as though they owned it. Like it used to be before laws like this were in place.
Fourth, The first patent law was actually made in the 1600's. Yes I know it is different from copyright but both are IP related. Lots of stuff wa made then and people thought that the public owned it. It was only until laws like out Const were made which made people think the creator was the owner insted of the public. I like the old, "ye olde" in that case, ways best.
P.S. Ignore the fact that a English teacher wouldn't like the fact I used the words "so" and "you" too often.
I liked what another persone called it, "digital restrictions managament." Maybe we could start calling it that and hopes it catches on. As long as we don't sound stupid when the industry says it's really rights.
I saw that site. The main problem is that I doubt companies would lower prices be the amount they didn't have to spend in income tax. The citizen(consumer) would still pay the higher sales tax but wouldn't get a decrease in price iteslf. I found a few other problems as well but that seems to be the main.
If it is junk then I must not be typing this right now. Sure I don't do high end stuff but it works perfectly well for the stuff I do. Mostly text and browsing. It might use much power but it could still be more efficient than throwing it out. Especially if it can't be recycled and must be put in a landfull.
P.S. Your site is not working right now. I know because I go to alot of user's sites. I just had to use "alot" instead of "a lot" to refer to your sig.
P[pre].S. I am not implying on if violence, et. al. is good, only on whether it should be legislated.
I always, for non-trivial posts, crtl-c it. Every once in a while I get my comment back lost after a fail.
As for your comment, the only thing I am against is arbitrary age values. The parent should know but younger people who happen to not have been on Earth for a few billion miles around shouldn't be "punished" becase of kids who can't handle it. I can't think of a remedy that prevents age discrimition AND allows parents more control though. I would then not have to require ID's and hope nothing bad happens to them. The chance of the mind-altering aspect of tyhe violent\whatever game\movie\book, even if high, doesn't take precendence over the age discrimination. To use an unrelated and completely dissimilar and stupid analogy, would you jail two people if one were guilty and the other innocent or free both?
P.S. FF did weird stuff but I copied this post. Since I didn't copy anything else I could ctrl-v it back here hours later. Of course I keep most of my comments in text files anyways so I could reget it if I did use the clipboard. I have over have a meg of comments in various files.
P.P.S I am 28 but have thought this way since 10. I could have been biased then and just carried it over these last 2 decades.
P.P.P.S. because you can't have too many ps's. I think of age discrimination as similar to race of sex, all uncontrolable. Yes younger often means less wise but not always. It's that "not always" that is important.
That's the first think I thought of when I read that.
As for Malor's law, it's always funny how each gramm[a,e]r post has dozens of more incorrect spelling posts after it. You should put that on Wikipedia. I seen it at least twice.
That's one of my favo[u]rite episodes. Evertime I hear that anti-terrorism methods are "working" I think of the one. Unfortunately the taxpayer end up with a useless rock in the process.
First, what good would it do for Homer and Peter to get on top of Bender from Futureama? Unless they will do something we can't see, or at least will ever see in person on/.. Second, Peter is actually a clone of a clone,etc of Homer. He arose from the cloning hamock(sp), possibly bought in the hammoc district.
Can you give me any info about these studies? I am not disagreeing I just haven't heard of these tests. They do have to mention tron, er pron, though. Not just, "Take that bitch, want some more?" but the, "guys cumming on womens faces" is important too.
Does this apply to "old-school" porn as well? Or just the new-fangled stuff with violence and such?
It would be interesting to see a study that relates naked people to breakups and loss of money/jobs. Plus why doesn't this seem to apply in other countries and regions? Does pron, I keep typoing that, have bad effects or affect people badly in Erupoe.
P.S. I just wanted to use affect and effect correctly so I don't loose karma. I do have to be careful because of my lose change. P.P.S. I did type Europe and loose/lose wrong to see if Google can find it.
There is a store around here that, according to some people, gets eggs in a cruel way. Those people even have bumber stickers. I saw one at the store it is against. They also specifally said they will still shop there but just not get eggs.
Back on topic, the current method is not working. Or at least I don't think so. The method you are talking about preobably won't work either but it's idealism is better than the current realism. A better way would seem to be to prevent rich people/groups from buying time just because they have money. How that should be done I don't know but both ways aren't good at that.
It might not be in DVD form. Maybe in generic HDs where bit density is higher. Of course unlike the wires the trucks can go anywhere with only roads needed and many times not that. The wire form needs wires or satellites or radio which probably don't work as well.
Hows come most deregulation, e.g. capitalization, decreases competition? And no I don't have specific cases, just anecdotes. I have more of them than ones of your cases of which I have none, or rather one, yours.
Actually, at least in America, piracy is a right. The creation of IP is from the gov't. The Const. allows a privilege of the gov't to create IP laws, not the people to download\whatever them.
If that "pesky" clause were removed the gov't would have less rights and the people more. If the Bill of Rights were removed the opposite is true.
The BoA gives rights to the people, the IP clause to the gov't.
Of course IANAL so take this with a grain of pepper.
As for your sig, both are important. If at all I would also have realistic comments modded up as well.
That's the first thing I thought of when I read this article. I believe it is "Real Genius." I am still waiting for him, when everyone else is gone, including the prof, to turn off some of the tape machines. It could be an experiment, yeh, on how people react. Or just an annoyance.
Yes I agree, well except for the part that you only care about what PHDers say. Just because you don't go to college doesn't mean you have no useful opinions. But then again I don't have a Ph.D. so my opinion must not be correct.
In any case some political games could be fun. Some maybe not. Imagine playing Candyland with a dentist spin. It all depends on what you want. Of course I am biased on my opinion of our unread, by Congress that is, USAPATRIOT act. I also think it may not be fun to play all the time but it might be interesting to at least try out.
In summary, +0.5 mod points. Or sqrt(1/4) for you geeks.
I don't recall what it is made of but there is a 3D printer that does that. They demonstrated by coping a broken coffee maker piece and creating a duplicate. I wanted one to create a dial for a mini radio. The radio works fine but you have to use plyers to change the volume.
He is preaching to it but the choir is also ignoring that preach. How many/.ers went to see Lord of the Rings 5 times? I even go to movies every once in a while, 2 per solstice last year. I do rent them though. I think I spend less on movies in one decade than most Slashdotters did just on LOTR. As it is paraphrased in the FAQ, "Why does Slashdot still go to movies but against the MPAA?" I don't know the answer but for some things it is true.
So you are saying that if minimum wage, welfare, et al. are removed then all people will either have insurance or enough charity will be given to help them.
How many of those ancient, and modern, societies don't have things like that but still have people who die from lack of charity, gov't or private?
As far as I remember reading, modern western nations are the only ones that have enough of those gov't "forced" safeguards to not apply to your argument.
But if you are right that will mean no unemployment, except for "lazy" people.
Hows, I like that "word," come I read the bill and you read War and Peace? You have to read it after it has been translated into a foreign language and back into English.
No I am not lazy, well I am but not about that. I just don't think I should have to read a 200 page bill.
The problem is that even if I did read and translate it, no one would here my insightful replies. Even small laws are hard to deal with.
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Ageism, old people won't live long to get much money, and "deathism" as you say can be bad.
I say that if they aren't making any more they don't need money to stay in business to make more. They won't anyways.
If it is because they just stopped or because they aren't even alive, they still won't make more.
You might be able to make an argument with me that the family could use this money so they could make more themselves but even that is unlikely.
I personally don't mind if people loot off me as a corpse. It might even help some.
I have heard that if tombraiders, no not Croft, didn't steal gold and such from the Egyption Pharoes it would end up being hoarded and not be useful. It also mean tombs and other stuff wouldn't be in museums for all to see but locked in the desert of wherever.
If course if you don't want your analogy then this may not apply. I can still use it to say that real stuff as more or at least not less valuable than IP. If Poe's relatives were still alive, does he have any, would that mean "The Raven" is under copyright and his family gets to sue all people for any public use of it.
To sumarize, if IP won't be made the money isn't need to prevent other work so more time can be given to more IP.
What are your jobs and how much do they pay?
How much trouble are your children?
How much work do you do to get your degree?
Do you have any scholarships?
How is you time divided?
Do you live in a violent area?
Suburb or city?
Do you have other people to help you such as your siblings?
The job and salary part is probably private but it is just minimum wage? If not then how can you have time for two higher jobs? Teacher by day and superhero, er janitor by night?
I find it hard to believe that 10 dollars and hour 365 days a year for 10 hours a day, I doubt you work even a third that but to be [b]very conservitive[/b], that turns to 36k not even including taxes and food and rent isn't much to pay for college.
P.S. As you probably know more about English than me did I spell and grammarize correctly? Well except for the word, "grammarize."
Yes, in my not so humble opinion though.
First, the Const. requires you to do so.
Second, I agree with the parent. You do not own it. You helped the public. The public owns it. You only get a temporary monopoly to allow you to make money so you don't go out of business so you can make more and help the public even more.
Third, if the Const. didn't have this clause then people would have never thought of as though they owned it. Like it used to be before laws like this were in place.
Fourth, The first patent law was actually made in the 1600's. Yes I know it is different from copyright but both are IP related. Lots of stuff wa made then and people thought that the public owned it. It was only until laws like out Const were made which made people think the creator was the owner insted of the public. I like the old, "ye olde" in that case, ways best.
P.S. Ignore the fact that a English teacher wouldn't like the fact I used the words "so" and "you" too often.
Technically Godwin's law doesn't apply. Mussilino(sp) was used instead of Hitler. I don't even think he would apply in this case.
I liked what another persone called it, "digital restrictions managament."
Maybe we could start calling it that and hopes it catches on.
As long as we don't sound stupid when the industry says it's really rights.
I saw that site.
The main problem is that I doubt companies would lower prices be the amount they didn't have to spend in income tax.
The citizen(consumer) would still pay the higher sales tax but wouldn't get a decrease in price iteslf.
I found a few other problems as well but that seems to be the main.
If it is junk then I must not be typing this right now.
Sure I don't do high end stuff but it works perfectly well for the stuff I do.
Mostly text and browsing.
It might use much power but it could still be more efficient than throwing it out.
Especially if it can't be recycled and must be put in a landfull.
P.S. Your site is not working right now.
I know because I go to alot of user's sites.
I just had to use "alot" instead of "a lot" to refer to your sig.
P[pre].S. I am not implying on if violence, et. al. is good, only on whether it should be legislated.
I always, for non-trivial posts, crtl-c it.
Every once in a while I get my comment back lost after a fail.
As for your comment, the only thing I am against is arbitrary age values.
The parent should know but younger people who happen to not have been on Earth for a few billion miles around shouldn't be "punished" becase of kids who can't handle it.
I can't think of a remedy that prevents age discrimition AND allows parents more control though. I would then not have to require ID's and hope nothing bad happens to them. The chance of the mind-altering aspect of tyhe violent\whatever game\movie\book, even if high, doesn't take precendence over the age discrimination.
To use an unrelated and completely dissimilar and stupid analogy, would you jail two people if one were guilty and the other innocent or free both?
P.S. FF did weird stuff but I copied this post. Since I didn't copy anything else I could ctrl-v it back here hours later. Of course I keep most of my comments in text files anyways so I could reget it if I did use the clipboard. I have over have a meg of comments in various files.
P.P.S I am 28 but have thought this way since 10. I could have been biased then and just carried it over these last 2 decades.
P.P.P.S. because you can't have too many ps's. I think of age discrimination as similar to race of sex, all uncontrolable. Yes younger often means less wise but not always. It's that "not always" that is important.
That's the first think I thought of when I read that.
As for Malor's law, it's always funny how each gramm[a,e]r post has dozens of more incorrect spelling posts after it.
You should put that on Wikipedia. I seen it at least twice.
That's one of my favo[u]rite episodes.
Evertime I hear that anti-terrorism methods are "working" I think of the one.
Unfortunately the taxpayer end up with a useless rock in the process.
First, what good would it do for Homer and Peter to get on top of Bender from Futureama? /..
Unless they will do something we can't see, or at least will ever see in person on
Second, Peter is actually a clone of a clone,etc of Homer.
He arose from the cloning hamock(sp), possibly bought in the hammoc district.
On the Futurama when they went to the beuracracy HQ there was a floating eye there.
To troll, AD&D was much better.
Can you give me any info about these studies?
I am not disagreeing I just haven't heard of these tests.
They do have to mention tron, er pron, though.
Not just, "Take that bitch, want some more?" but the, "guys cumming on womens faces" is important too.
Does this apply to "old-school" porn as well?
Or just the new-fangled stuff with violence and such?
It would be interesting to see a study that relates naked people to breakups and loss of money/jobs.
Plus why doesn't this seem to apply in other countries and regions?
Does pron, I keep typoing that, have bad effects or affect people badly in Erupoe.
P.S. I just wanted to use affect and effect correctly so I don't loose karma. I do have to be careful because of my lose change.
P.P.S. I did type Europe and loose/lose wrong to see if Google can find it.
"shop and protest at Walmart"
There is a store around here that, according to some people, gets eggs in a cruel way.
Those people even have bumber stickers.
I saw one at the store it is against.
They also specifally said they will still shop there but just not get eggs.
Back on topic, the current method is not working.
Or at least I don't think so.
The method you are talking about preobably won't work either but it's idealism is better than the current realism.
A better way would seem to be to prevent rich people/groups from buying time just because they have money.
How that should be done I don't know but both ways aren't good at that.
It might not be in DVD form.
Maybe in generic HDs where bit density is higher.
Of course unlike the wires the trucks can go anywhere with only roads needed and many times not that.
The wire form needs wires or satellites or radio which probably don't work as well.
Hows come most deregulation, e.g. capitalization, decreases competition?
And no I don't have specific cases, just anecdotes.
I have more of them than ones of your cases of which I have none, or rather one, yours.
Actually, at least in America, piracy is a right.
The creation of IP is from the gov't.
The Const. allows a privilege of the gov't to create IP laws, not the people to download\whatever them.
If that "pesky" clause were removed the gov't would have less rights and the people more.
If the Bill of Rights were removed the opposite is true.
The BoA gives rights to the people, the IP clause to the gov't.
Of course IANAL so take this with a grain of pepper.
As for your sig, both are important.
If at all I would also have realistic comments modded up as well.
That's the first thing I thought of when I read this article.
I believe it is "Real Genius."
I am still waiting for him, when everyone else is gone, including the prof, to turn off some of the tape machines.
It could be an experiment, yeh, on how people react.
Or just an annoyance.
Yes I agree, well except for the part that you only care about what PHDers say.
:D
Just because you don't go to college doesn't mean you have no useful opinions.
But then again I don't have a Ph.D. so my opinion must not be correct.
In any case some political games could be fun.
Some maybe not. Imagine playing Candyland with a dentist spin.
It all depends on what you want.
Of course I am biased on my opinion of our unread, by Congress that is, USAPATRIOT act.
I also think it may not be fun to play all the time but it might be interesting to at least try out.
In summary, +0.5 mod points.
Or sqrt(1/4) for you geeks.
P.S. There is a one true way, it is mine.
I looked there but it didn't say where it came from.
Also, the link provided was 404ed.
Do you know where the rumor started?
I don't recall what it is made of but there is a 3D printer that does that.
They demonstrated by coping a broken coffee maker piece and creating a duplicate.
I wanted one to create a dial for a mini radio.
The radio works fine but you have to use plyers to change the volume.
He is preaching to it but the choir is also ignoring that preach. /.ers went to see Lord of the Rings 5 times?
How many
I even go to movies every once in a while, 2 per solstice last year.
I do rent them though.
I think I spend less on movies in one decade than most Slashdotters did just on LOTR.
As it is paraphrased in the FAQ, "Why does Slashdot still go to movies but against the MPAA?"
I don't know the answer but for some things it is true.
It's not fascism when we [the west or US] do it.
So you are saying that if minimum wage, welfare, et al. are removed then all people will either have insurance or enough charity will be given to help them.
How many of those ancient, and modern, societies don't have things like that but still have people who die from lack of charity, gov't or private?
As far as I remember reading, modern western nations are the only ones that have enough of those gov't "forced" safeguards to not apply to your argument.
But if you are right that will mean no unemployment, except for "lazy" people.
Hows, I like that "word," come I read the bill and you read War and Peace?
You have to read it after it has been translated into a foreign language and back into English.
No I am not lazy, well I am but not about that.
I just don't think I should have to read a 200 page bill.
The problem is that even if I did read and translate it, no one would here my insightful replies.
Even small laws are hard to deal with.