...and it sucked. Therefore, all these comments are moot, because it was absolutely the worst hard drive or SAN solution I've ever purchased by far. The drive access speed, despite being on a simple gigE network was atrocious, less than 300k (computer-to-computer speeds on this network often go near 40x that speed). The MioNET software itself seems to be compatible only with M$ Windows, and the shares management interface sucked. Also, although this particular issue never happened to me, I've read stories about people permanently bricking the thing - if you hack its filesystem too much, there's (supposedly) no way to recover your data from the thing. Yikes. Back to CostCo...
OK, fine, last post: if you really want me to stop replying, then please stop replying too. Jim, you did throw me under a bus. There is no question about that. But if you're having problems with me, I want to hear them, I don't want you to say "hey you're just kicking ass" - and then not mean it in the slightest. I took time off - so did you! - and didn't take any more time off than you did! Anyway, next time I get meningitis (and continue to work throughout) - I'll remember what you said, be a man of my word, and continue to write functions in a way I don't like because it's a requirement to get the project launched. And please don't get into pitting my integrity - and doing what I said I'd do - against you - I WILL come out ahead, and can provide the examples, myself, by the dozens.
It's not that I didn't appreciate the work we did together, but man - those were some weird projects.
Anyway, I suggest we end this. If there's another forum you want to continue this on, for some reason, PM my account on Slashdot, otherwise, please don't respond to this if you don't want it responded to publicly.
Fine with me, James Manico, but hopefully next time you hire someone to abuse, make sure that you (1) let them know what isn't working for you and (2) understand it when they think you're a creep for that same type of treatment. It's obvious we're never going to agree on what happened, you have your points and I have mine, but in my eyes I lost every iota I had of respect for you as a friend and professional from that project, and I did NOT appreciate your throwing me under the bus to make yourself look good, whatever your superficial reasoning tells you. I will never reply to a comment you make on this system again, not to you directly, nor am I interested in doing so now that I see where you're coming from. I'll pay you the respect I know you don't deserve and ignore you around town, that is the maximum courtesy I can offer, but don't expect me to like you.
You never fired me! Maybe if you weren't doing coke while working, miscommunicating project needs, and calling us in to work at 11pm at night on Sunday, we'd still be working together. Not to mention completely failing to communicate your issues, just disappearing off the face of the Earth for 3 weeks, and then never saying "you're fired" on top of it, Jim Manico, I hardly think you - or your company, for that matter - has a leg to stand on when talking about so-called "business integrity". If you had any of these problems before, you should have said something back in 2006 instead of mentioning them now three months later. Fucking lame! Business integrity, my ass.
Sure, if you insist on not indexing your data, using the wrong column types, and storing large strings directly in your db, but I guess only "real" software engineers would know that, eh?
Oh yeah, Linux is so friendly, that's why you've seen just a huge explosion of it on the desktop lately, new versions of Photoshop CS3 for Linux, Microsoft Word for Linux, games, easy-to-install drivers, er... woops, sorry I just woke up, too much pasta last night. Oh but anyway, if you're totally unconcerned with GUI, you'd be right, but unfortunately most people these days do want a GUI that works straight out of the box.
Oh, Jim, you misunderestimated ole George Bush again. Just tell the dev teams to integrate it into the next incremental version of Firefox, Safari and MSIE and life will be good - just make sure you hire real software engineers and not ones that use "advanced, unmaintainable techniques".
Same here - and funny how these browser war articles always seem to leave out the best of the best - c'mon, really, Firefox (or Opera??) against Safari?!?!? Ha. Wake up and smell the 2006 coffee, world!
...therefore, I'm all for it! Well, just kidding, I'm sure he's not a bad guy, but really, who wants to use Windows on their cell phone, after putting up with it on their desktop for so long? Microsoft has done a great job of marketing "Windows Mobile" as if it were really just a scaled down "mobile OS" version of Windows XP, through its interface skin and marketing materials (although any reasonable person like Mac user little ole me won't like it). The need for a robust OS that is user-friendly enough to be used on phones and other devices is so overdue that people like myself are practically ready to write it themselves.
Of course, this doesn't make me a fan of cell phone companies, I think they're the worst when it comes to thinking of users' needs. Now if Linux Mobile were just a little bit farther along, we'd be all set...
A simple but awesome observation snowwrestler, this conversation has ceased being about Steve Jobs and his technical ability and become how people feel about successful people and how they got where they are today. Success is about having the willpower to do what you really know you need to do in order to make something, no matter what your part is in it, be it technical or being a great bullsh*tter or a genius marketing manager.
Jobs' comment may have been motivated by something else other than technical merit or linguistic advantages. I do not know how great.net or Objective-C are, but I'm of the opinion that the apps created with Objective C tend to be a hell of a lot better than the stuff that's created using Microsoft tools, in general.
I just had to do the same thing, although my experience was bit more pleasant. I do understand the former, nasty boss syndrome. The only hold they have over you is withholding payment and damage to your reputation. It sounds like you're no longer too concerned about clients believing your boss, and withholding payment in this case isn't right or legal. Someone up the list suggested contacting your boss' boss. It will help if your boss does have one. Otherwise, you'll need to request a private meeting with him/her, and in it you need to not back down, first asking what their reasoning is in thinking that they need to threaten you with withholding payment, and second that you will not back down and it's illegal, only if the conversation comes to that. As a last resort - and this is painful and can be difficult, I know - you may have to cut your losses short, and risk leaving without being paid. Obviously having a new job that's much better will more than make up for it eventually, but you may suffer difficulty not being able to pay the bills for several critical weeks, if not a month! Whew! I understand what you're going through!
I am quite sure that if you decide to be tough, fair and determined not to be screwed into the ground by this, you will come out a better, stronger, and most importantly paid individual.
OK, speaking from an amateur's seat, here's my take on it. Get started with XCode, as it is free, and would probably be a good introduction to your Mac. Start with Objective C if you want to start with a powerful intro, or start with Mono if you want a somewhat compatible intro.
If you were interested in Java, I assume you would have said so at the beginning.
Personally, what little proprietary programming I've done has gone out the Windows (sic) and I now like cross-platform stuff much, much better!
...and all three people that this machine is targetted at will run out and buy it immediately! Please, WHAT target market? I hope they manage to at least empty out the spare bedroom in Michael Dell's house when they cancel the line's manufacture.
No seriously, people will pay to have their software improved, even if they believe that you have to use open source to do it, and that therefore your software must be open source. So go ahead, feel free to accept the money, it is an honor and it is in the public service. Should you ask, I am sure I could name many who've had that particular honor. Does anyone care about that?
And good luck trying to get someone who sold you a product that, by its very nature, is unsalable. Would I be correct in guessing that those are grounds for a Federal hearing, which I would guess at this point would be necessary! Aloha, Thinkingman
As human beings we have the right to anonymity as a basic human privelege. We should not abuse that right to harm others, nor should we be denied the right to not be public if we wish. The RIAA and similar organizations seek to eliminate that right in a certain venue in an attempt to control more resources utterly, i.e., the musical recordings of the artists who they supposedly, fully "represent".
Does anyone remember what happened to anon.penet.fi? And now hotmail.com and the equivalent msn are owned by microsoft and extremely popular years later, after the first popular anonymous e-mail service (Penet) was shut down for allegedly committing a crime through offering anonymous e-mail.
Yes, as we know, no employee, associate, customer, musician, adolescent or otherwise has ever listened to an illegal 'net stream, downloaded an MP3, OGG, AAC, MP3+, or listened to a CD borrowed from a friend, ripped a CD to their HD, used an MP3 player, played a song over the telephone to their friend, or listened to a non-ASCAP-liscensed radio playing in a restaurant, or any other illegal music activity which is the only way that the vast majority of new music gets heard, thereby selling more CDs all over the world. Funny, the RIAA and similarly limited individuals seem to think that music trading reduces music sales... hmm... - tm
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...and it sucked. Therefore, all these comments are moot, because it was absolutely the worst hard drive or SAN solution I've ever purchased by far. The drive access speed, despite being on a simple gigE network was atrocious, less than 300k (computer-to-computer speeds on this network often go near 40x that speed). The MioNET software itself seems to be compatible only with M$ Windows, and the shares management interface sucked. Also, although this particular issue never happened to me, I've read stories about people permanently bricking the thing - if you hack its filesystem too much, there's (supposedly) no way to recover your data from the thing. Yikes. Back to CostCo...
OK, fine, last post: if you really want me to stop replying, then please stop replying too. Jim, you did throw me under a bus. There is no question about that. But if you're having problems with me, I want to hear them, I don't want you to say "hey you're just kicking ass" - and then not mean it in the slightest. I took time off - so did you! - and didn't take any more time off than you did! Anyway, next time I get meningitis (and continue to work throughout) - I'll remember what you said, be a man of my word, and continue to write functions in a way I don't like because it's a requirement to get the project launched. And please don't get into pitting my integrity - and doing what I said I'd do - against you - I WILL come out ahead, and can provide the examples, myself, by the dozens. It's not that I didn't appreciate the work we did together, but man - those were some weird projects. Anyway, I suggest we end this. If there's another forum you want to continue this on, for some reason, PM my account on Slashdot, otherwise, please don't respond to this if you don't want it responded to publicly.
Fine with me, James Manico, but hopefully next time you hire someone to abuse, make sure that you (1) let them know what isn't working for you and (2) understand it when they think you're a creep for that same type of treatment. It's obvious we're never going to agree on what happened, you have your points and I have mine, but in my eyes I lost every iota I had of respect for you as a friend and professional from that project, and I did NOT appreciate your throwing me under the bus to make yourself look good, whatever your superficial reasoning tells you. I will never reply to a comment you make on this system again, not to you directly, nor am I interested in doing so now that I see where you're coming from. I'll pay you the respect I know you don't deserve and ignore you around town, that is the maximum courtesy I can offer, but don't expect me to like you.
And, no, I don't work Mondays, I work Saturday, when people like you aren't jumping in and messing up my work.
You never fired me! Maybe if you weren't doing coke while working, miscommunicating project needs, and calling us in to work at 11pm at night on Sunday, we'd still be working together. Not to mention completely failing to communicate your issues, just disappearing off the face of the Earth for 3 weeks, and then never saying "you're fired" on top of it, Jim Manico, I hardly think you - or your company, for that matter - has a leg to stand on when talking about so-called "business integrity". If you had any of these problems before, you should have said something back in 2006 instead of mentioning them now three months later. Fucking lame! Business integrity, my ass.
Wow so you fuck with me then tell me to fuck off huh?
I really don't think you want to be saying that... :-)
Actually, you can, but if you want to be last to plate, be my guest...
Somebody could be filming you right now and you wouldn't even know!
Well, we'll just have to call up Linux, Inc., and have their lawyers get right on it!
Sure, if you insist on not indexing your data, using the wrong column types, and storing large strings directly in your db, but I guess only "real" software engineers would know that, eh?
Oh yeah, Linux is so friendly, that's why you've seen just a huge explosion of it on the desktop lately, new versions of Photoshop CS3 for Linux, Microsoft Word for Linux, games, easy-to-install drivers, er... woops, sorry I just woke up, too much pasta last night. Oh but anyway, if you're totally unconcerned with GUI, you'd be right, but unfortunately most people these days do want a GUI that works straight out of the box.
Oh, Jim, you misunderestimated ole George Bush again. Just tell the dev teams to integrate it into the next incremental version of Firefox, Safari and MSIE and life will be good - just make sure you hire real software engineers and not ones that use "advanced, unmaintainable techniques".
Same here - and funny how these browser war articles always seem to leave out the best of the best - c'mon, really, Firefox (or Opera??) against Safari?!?!? Ha. Wake up and smell the 2006 coffee, world!
...therefore, I'm all for it! Well, just kidding, I'm sure he's not a bad guy, but really, who wants to use Windows on their cell phone, after putting up with it on their desktop for so long? Microsoft has done a great job of marketing "Windows Mobile" as if it were really just a scaled down "mobile OS" version of Windows XP, through its interface skin and marketing materials (although any reasonable person like Mac user little ole me won't like it). The need for a robust OS that is user-friendly enough to be used on phones and other devices is so overdue that people like myself are practically ready to write it themselves.
Of course, this doesn't make me a fan of cell phone companies, I think they're the worst when it comes to thinking of users' needs. Now if Linux Mobile were just a little bit farther along, we'd be all set...
Please check it out, mods. MAHALO
Aperture: superior interface/only on Macs.
Adobe: superior compatibility with Photoshop CS2 (or so I've read)/available for major platforms.
A simple but awesome observation snowwrestler, this conversation has ceased being about Steve Jobs and his technical ability and become how people feel about successful people and how they got where they are today. Success is about having the willpower to do what you really know you need to do in order to make something, no matter what your part is in it, be it technical or being a great bullsh*tter or a genius marketing manager. Jobs' comment may have been motivated by something else other than technical merit or linguistic advantages. I do not know how great .net or Objective-C are, but I'm of the opinion that the apps created with Objective C tend to be a hell of a lot better than the stuff that's created using Microsoft tools, in general.
Aloha Timothy;
I just had to do the same thing, although my experience was bit more pleasant. I do understand the former, nasty boss syndrome. The only hold they have over you is withholding payment and damage to your reputation. It sounds like you're no longer too concerned about clients believing your boss, and withholding payment in this case isn't right or legal. Someone up the list suggested contacting your boss' boss. It will help if your boss does have one. Otherwise, you'll need to request a private meeting with him/her, and in it you need to not back down, first asking what their reasoning is in thinking that they need to threaten you with withholding payment, and second that you will not back down and it's illegal, only if the conversation comes to that. As a last resort - and this is painful and can be difficult, I know - you may have to cut your losses short, and risk leaving without being paid. Obviously having a new job that's much better will more than make up for it eventually, but you may suffer difficulty not being able to pay the bills for several critical weeks, if not a month! Whew! I understand what you're going through!
I am quite sure that if you decide to be tough, fair and determined not to be screwed into the ground by this, you will come out a better, stronger, and most importantly paid individual.
Good luck and keep us informed of what happens!
OK, speaking from an amateur's seat, here's my take on it. Get started with XCode, as it is free, and would probably be a good introduction to your Mac. Start with Objective C if you want to start with a powerful intro, or start with Mono if you want a somewhat compatible intro.
If you were interested in Java, I assume you would have said so at the beginning.
Personally, what little proprietary programming I've done has gone out the Windows (sic) and I now like cross-platform stuff much, much better!
...and all three people that this machine is targetted at will run out and buy it immediately! Please, WHAT target market? I hope they manage to at least empty out the spare bedroom in Michael Dell's house when they cancel the line's manufacture.
No seriously, people will pay to have their software improved, even if they believe that you have to use open source to do it, and that therefore your software must be open source. So go ahead, feel free to accept the money, it is an honor and it is in the public service. Should you ask, I am sure I could name many who've had that particular honor. Does anyone care about that?
And good luck trying to get someone who sold you a product that, by its very nature, is unsalable. Would I be correct in guessing that those are grounds for a Federal hearing, which I would guess at this point would be necessary!
Aloha,
Thinkingman
As human beings we have the right to anonymity as a basic human privelege. We should not abuse that right to harm others, nor should we be denied the right to not be public if we wish. The RIAA and similar organizations seek to eliminate that right in a certain venue in an attempt to control more resources utterly, i.e., the musical recordings of the artists who they supposedly, fully "represent".
Does anyone remember what happened to anon.penet.fi? And now hotmail.com and the equivalent msn are owned by microsoft and extremely popular years later, after the first popular anonymous e-mail service (Penet) was shut down for allegedly committing a crime through offering anonymous e-mail.
Yes, as we know, no employee, associate, customer, musician, adolescent or otherwise has ever listened to an illegal 'net stream, downloaded an MP3, OGG, AAC, MP3+, or listened to a CD borrowed from a friend, ripped a CD to their HD, used an MP3 player, played a song over the telephone to their friend, or listened to a non-ASCAP-liscensed radio playing in a restaurant, or any other illegal music activity which is the only way that the vast majority of new music gets heard, thereby selling more CDs all over the world. Funny, the RIAA and similarly limited individuals seem to think that music trading reduces music sales... hmm... - tm