Not to mention they are selling the decrepit 66Mhz bus. Obviously to avoid competing with their own products. Hmph.
Go AMD, Fight, Win.
I don't think AMD is our savior from Intel, but they will at least light the fire under the microprocessor industry to get their asses in gear and get us the good stuff, instead of slowly dribbling out technology to keep us paying the big bucks for each new piddly advance.
I want 1.5Ghz processors, with 256K of L1 cache, 512K of exclusive L2 cache, 200 Mhz DDR system buses, with stable chipsets, and I WANT THEM NOW.
Compared to the Celeron which has 128K of L2. But half of it is just the same stuff that's in L1. So basically its 64K of L1, and 64K of L2. The Duron has 128K of exclusive L1 cache, and 64K of exclusive L2. Almost like 192K of L1. Mmmm.
I think one of the benefits is that Dell gets first dibs on OEM chips. Intel is making *VERY* few 1Ghz P3s right now, and you got to be in the loop to get one. Dell is in the loop. Intel may put to them the offer of 1Ghz chips in return for remaining an Intel only vendor.
I think Intel is going to have to get their shit together if they don't wanna be pummeled by AMD here in the near future.
Rambus has a number of stock "warrants", which are basically incentives for Intel to push RDRAM for them. If Intel achieves certain volumes and various other sales milestones, then Rambus rewards them with stock deals. A million shares a per milestone or something, which is about 5% of Rambus. Rambus wants to push their technology into the mainstream, and basically wants Intel to use its powers to leverage it. Intel wants to maintain its stranglehold on the memory/motherboard/CPU market. Intel was hoping they could leverage RDRAM to their favor just as SDRAM was becoming obsolete, and maintain their control of previous years.
Don't even start me on a technical discussion of what I think of RDRAM and i820. The business softshoeing makes me sick enough.
Very true. In my Intro to PC Systems class, we have some extremely entry levels users. About two weeks ago, we were disassembling some old "Classic" Pentium systems, and came across on that ran on AMD K5s. Most of them could not understand the concept that they were *not* Pentium's. Several of them even think that Pentium is a speed rating of some sort. It's beyond their ability to realize that Intel has competitors.
Intel has been very successful in this and I believe it will get them through RDRAM, and just as the Athlon was the make or break chip for AMD. I believe that Willamette and Itanium will be the turning point for Intel. I know it won't break them, because Intel is huge and will be around for a long time, but these will the platforms that decide their future role.
As far as dropping all the cash on this RDRAM and i820 mess, it's small beans for them. Intel has *HUGE* cash reserves, on the order of $11 billion dollars in cash and equivalents. It's liabilities are much smaller, on the order of just over $1 billion dollars. So it's not money that is going to be Intel's problem, its going to be reputation, marketshare, and people looking for alternatives.
Intel has always been a pioneer and an innovator. And they continue to do that, unfortunately they can only maintain problems like this in a market recently opened up to competition for just so long. People already are and will continue to start taking solutions from AMD seriously, as with other competitors.
An accurate report from The Register? *gasp* Everyone's favorite rumormill speaks truth? *gasp* A followup with facts as opposed to unsubstantiated poor journalism? *gasp*
The old adage applies here: "It's not what you have, it's how you use it."
No one cared about Standard Oil, AT&T having a monopoly. But when they started abusing that position and discouraging competition. That is when it becomes time to take action. Standard Oil controlled the oil, AT&T controlled the phone lines. Both companies used these resources as a leverage to keep their position comfortable. Microsoft controls something a bit less tangible. Marketshare. With which comes the standards and the protocols. If anyone wants to compete with Microsoft, they have to play by their rules, and if they don't. Microsoft has plenty of tricks to keep them under control.
Linux zealotry and idealism aside. I don't think anyone would complain if Linux had 100% marketshare, because the standards are in the control of someone other than the controlling body. They are public domain and if Linus decided to pervert things to his choosing, such as has been done in Windows, then there would still be plenty of avenues to circumvent these decisions.
And I think you are taking things for granted. Do you really think that $40 from the autos in America is even close to building and maintaining the millions and millions of miles of publicly owned roads in this country. I don't claim it to be a perfect system, but I think we are better off than many people would like to admit.
The multiple distros is also what keeps them honest. It's called competition and choice. If Red Hat decides they want to start doing something like making MS Office 2000 for Linux integrated into its distro. If you don't like it, what do you? You go get a copy of Debian or SuSE, or you reprogram stuff to your liking, assuming you possess that knowledge. If Microsoft integrates MS Office 2000 into Windows. What choice do you have? None. I think the multiple distro model is quite beneficial and will be here to stay. Not to mention it provides variations on the same operating system. Red Hat is a nice general distro, Corel makes a good desktop setup, SuSE is quite easy to install, et al. That way you can pick the one that fits you best, and still be compatible with all the rest.
I do agree that I wish the government would spend our money better. But that's the way things happen. I'm fairly content with they way things are being done. The government provides a lot of money for research. And much of this research is put to very good use. It's not just wasted money. I'm pretty sure the research was more along the lines of genetic causes of obesity, not just overeating and poor excercise habits. Think about it. I'll let you know when I'm ready to start the revolution.
And if by making good marketing decisions, you really meant to say leveraging their monopoly and discouraging competition.
And if by making a very user friendly product, you really meant an nice user interface on a closed kernel that has become bloated and unwieldy over time, with sparse configurability and general poor OS design, but that's another thread entirely.
The piling on of goodies is the basis of distros. Because they aren't in control or responsible for the kernel. They goodies aren't irreversibly integrated either.
Microsoft was 'piling' on Internet Explorer to leverage its browser market share.
It would be very easy to disable an http server or a broswer in linux without royally borking anything. Not so with Internet Explorer. The only way I was ever able to rid myself of it was to replace the W98 shell with the W95 one and Litestep.
I don't think a breakup is the answer either. If you break MSFT up into OS and Apps companies. You still have mini-MSFT with a monopoly in OS. I think a solution that gives existing companies a leg up in up development of a competing solution would be most beneficial, since that was what held them back before.
1. He does appear to be a radical Libertarian. However, this does not make all Libertarian's dumb, impractical, ignorant, and jerks. I myself tend to lean toward a Libertarian point of view, not quite as radical as he, but leftist nevertheless. Try to make a rational point instead of making useless and insulting generalizations.
2. Second, I agree with you. Many radical Libertarians have this delusion that corporations left unchecked will make the world a better place. Correct, greed does NOT have this effect.
3. Nit-pick, yes. Communism is the total opposite of Libertarianism. Communism is the government control and pubic ownership of everything in the interest of the people, a communal living of sorts. Whereas Libertarianism is government totally hands off and private ownership.
The most successful society will not be a total ideal of any particular group, but will be a blend and hybrid of several. Try not to be such a flamer, and be a bit more open minded, eh?
Why do we need to get a tag for our cars? And why does some silly piece of metal or some little sticker cost $40? I can see the value of the tag if our cars get stolen or for identification purposes for a cop, but why $40? and why renew it every year? You know why? Revenue...they want YOUR money.
You're damn right they want your money. Most systems require revenue to operate. It doesn't cost $40 for the tag. BUT. That money pays for other systems to operate. And there are other costs that it pays for, services for you. Not just the ACTUAL tag. Why does a stamp cost 33 cents? Obviously that piece of sticky paper doesnt cost that much. It pays for them to bring your mail to your house. Think before you flame, dude.
All of you praise the government because they're doing this to MS, well what they are doing is illegal and unethical. The last time I checked the country was built on capitalism and free enterprise. That means NO INTERFERENCE by the governemnt. Hence PRIVATE and FREE. If microsoft dominates the OS market, well good for them, and you know what?? THEY WORKED FOR IT.
Last time I checked, this country hasn't functioned on pure market economy for a LONG time. Public schools, social security, and medicare are all not included in a market economy. Remember Standard Oil and more recently AT&T, I think that history without contest that they were absolutely taking advantage of their situation and that the government was in the right to intervene. I think if Mr. Rockefeller was still around today, you'd be paying a good bit more than a buck and a half for gas. The government is attempting to protect citizens from greedy corporate bastards. If you can think of a better method of doing it, please. Be my guest.
Every week I work hard for my money only to have the government take an illegal portion of it. Oh, I know you'll say but its in the constitution. How many people do you know that can go in your pay check and take out money, other than yourself? The government is doing what normal citizens cant do legally, and frankly Im tired of it.
Don't like it? Then vote for someone who can generate revenue without taxes. Or better yet, run yourself. If you can propose a better solution that would work, you'd have a my vote in a second. Do you honestly think that the government just takes all that money for no apparent reason? News flash, your police, your fire department, your EMS, your 911 system, your sewer system, your park service, your roads, your FDA, your FCC.. et cetera, et al, are ALL paid for by that chunk outa your paycheck. Bitch all you want, but the government is doing you a service in the end. It may not be perfect, but the government is of the people and by the people. You don't like it? Do something about it.
So stop whining about some company doing god, if linux really wants to take over the market, and the companies that make linux really want to make a difference then they need to come together to form one company, instead of 10 different ones, and make a linux package that has the usability and user friendliness comparable to windows
Would you make up your mind, please? In the last unorganized paragraph you have been spouting your anti-government blather in favor of competition and choice. And then you about face and suggest that Linux drop the choice of multiple distros that give people the choice to choose what suits them best, in favor of an all encompassing distro. I think not. Please check your posts for consistency.
Let me point something out to you, which you may not have previously considered. CORPORATIONS DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU.... unless you are an investor. Corporations only care about people with money. The government may not always have your best interest when they take 20% of your earnings, but they aren't out to take ALL of your money either. This however, is the entire premise of business. Get all of the consumer's money, using any means needed. The only thing that stops them is government. What do you think all that fine print is about? That's the stuff they don't want to tell you, because they are after your wallet, but Uncle Sam tells them they have to tell you. Reality check. We are living in a fairly good balance of government and business. Get used to it.
I may point out that the Mustang is the current core being used by the Athlon.
The chip being slated for servers and SMP is the Athlon Ultra. And is going to be based on the Thunderbird core. With full speed L2 cache, etc.
AMD has three cores right now.
K6 core: yawn. Mustang: current Athlon core. on-PCB cache. Thunderbird: planned Athlon core. on-die, full speed cache.
AMD has several chips on their plate right now.
K6-2: old budget chip. being phased out. only goes to 550 Mhz. based on the K6 core.
Athlon: AMD's flagship chip. based on the Mustang core. 512KB of on-PCB L2 cache with decreasing cache multipliers as clock speed increases. 1/2 at 700 Mhz, up to 2/5 at 1 Ghz.
Athlon Ultra: Server and SMP chip. Planned for Q3/Q4 this year. Based on the Thunderbird core.
Duron: Used to be Spitfire. 128KB of full speed on die L2 cache. "budget" chip.
Corvette: AMD's planned mobile processor. Based on the Mustang core, but in the Socket A form factor, instead of the Athlon's current Slot A.
All these chips are based on the EV6 200 Mhz DDR system bus.
By the end of the year, AMD should have a chip to counter every one of Intel's offerings. And it looks like they are quite apt to trounce all of them.
Celeron: Countered by the K6-2. Who cares? The K6-2 utterly abysmal FPU performance notwithstanding, they are somewhat equal.
Pentium 3: Countered by the Athlon. By the year's end, AMD will have a leg up with the 200 Mhz bus, compared to the 133 Mhz bus in use by the CuMines.
Xeon: Intel's server chip. Hello EV6, compared to the Xeon's 133 Mhz bus.
Celeron 2: Countered by the Duron. Same cache, but the Duron's system bus will thrash the Celeron's 66 Mhz bus.
Mobile Pentium 3: Who knows? Who cares? No one overclocks their laptop. I think it's just a P3 in a Socket 1 pack.
Got that? Good.
RDRAM notwithstanding, it should be an interesting fight. I'm loving watching these prices fall. $75 for a 200 Mhz Duron, with full speed on die L2 cache makes me just wanna get up and dance.
OS/2 is incredibly stable and quite efficient. It's interesting why it didn't take off. Possibly lack of API support, bad marketing, victim of the Microsoft juggernaut? In any case, the company I intern with uses OS/2 to run its voice mail system, and it has the highest uptime of any system throughout the building. Including the Linux boxen. It's been up for 9 months and some days now. Solid. It gets a fairly good bit of use too, you can walk into the phone room, and hear the hard drive going at it. But it hasn't crashed, paniced, or locked up once. If you can find the applications to do what you want with OS/2, by all means. Do it. That's the trouble though, finding the application.
This is why its called an invasion of privacy. Most people wouldn't mind giving out information, so that DoubleClick could tailor their ads for narrowcasting. If fact, many people complain about getting ads they don't like. But what most people don't like information being compiled about them, and not knowing what information has been compiled. DoubleClick could have actually make this positive from the start by announcing optional narrow casted ads, just by filling out a form. And if it was voluntary, people would love it and I think the response would have been pretty overwhelming.
In a rare display of kaniff replying to a kaniff post. I stand myself corrected. I had heard that id dropped the different sized models during testing. The final version shipped without it, but I believe several of the tests had it somewhat implemented.
In Quake2, that *is* true. All models are the same bounded, with just a different skin. In some of the newer games, I know for sure in Quake3 and Half Life, that it is *not* accurate. Different sized models have different sized bounding boxes, as well as different agilities and movement speeds. I believe this is also true in Unreal Tournament.
Usually its just an enormous deluge of requests. At some point, these requests fill up all the resources available to that machine. It basically stops responding or even reboots.
When he says uncompress I think he means unencode, or returning to the WAV format from which it was encoded. Yes, it will not be as good as the original copy. But the point still stands.
How painfully correct. Capitalism will steamroll democracy every time, if it gets it its path. And big business couldn't care less who they step on as long as their bottom line isn't affected.
Another one of the things the DVD CCA wants to do is to create pricing regions to maximise their profits. Here in the states they can sell a DVD for $20 and $25 dollars and people will be all over it. Now somewhere where the standard of living is lower and average incomes are lower, in order to sell well enough to make a profit they have to price them lower.
This prevents people from buying DVD outside of the MPAA's planned profit plans. We wouldn't want that now would we? Things like this make me sick. I can understand the pricing difference, local economies dictate that. But to prevent my Indian DVD from working on my American DVD player is totally inappropriate.
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It sickens me how many times this joke was made in this and the last Duron article threads.
And yet, it's still funny. I laughed.
To keep the Celeron out of the P3's territory.
Plain and simple.
Not to mention they are selling the decrepit 66Mhz bus. Obviously to avoid competing with their own products. Hmph.
Go AMD, Fight, Win.
I don't think AMD is our savior from Intel, but they will at least light the fire under the microprocessor industry to get their asses in gear and get us the good stuff, instead of slowly dribbling out technology to keep us paying the big bucks for each new piddly advance.
I want 1.5Ghz processors, with 256K of L1 cache, 512K of exclusive L2 cache, 200 Mhz DDR system buses, with stable chipsets, and I WANT THEM NOW.
Hmph.
Compared to the Celeron which has 128K of L2. But half of it is just the same stuff that's in L1. So basically its 64K of L1, and 64K of L2. The Duron has 128K of exclusive L1 cache, and 64K of exclusive L2. Almost like 192K of L1. Mmmm.
I think one of the benefits is that Dell gets first dibs on OEM chips. Intel is making *VERY* few 1Ghz P3s right now, and you got to be in the loop to get one. Dell is in the loop. Intel may put to them the offer of 1Ghz chips in return for remaining an Intel only vendor.
I think Intel is going to have to get their shit together if they don't wanna be pummeled by AMD here in the near future.
Rambus has a number of stock "warrants", which are basically incentives for Intel to push RDRAM for them. If Intel achieves certain volumes and various other sales milestones, then Rambus rewards them with stock deals. A million shares a per milestone or something, which is about 5% of Rambus. Rambus wants to push their technology into the mainstream, and basically wants Intel to use its powers to leverage it. Intel wants to maintain its stranglehold on the memory/motherboard/CPU market. Intel was hoping they could leverage RDRAM to their favor just as SDRAM was becoming obsolete, and maintain their control of previous years.
Don't even start me on a technical discussion of what I think of RDRAM and i820. The business softshoeing makes me sick enough.
Very true. In my Intro to PC Systems class, we have some extremely entry levels users. About two weeks ago, we were disassembling some old "Classic" Pentium systems, and came across on that ran on AMD K5s. Most of them could not understand the concept that they were *not* Pentium's. Several of them even think that Pentium is a speed rating of some sort. It's beyond their ability to realize that Intel has competitors.
Intel has been very successful in this and I believe it will get them through RDRAM, and just as the Athlon was the make or break chip for AMD. I believe that Willamette and Itanium will be the turning point for Intel. I know it won't break them, because Intel is huge and will be around for a long time, but these will the platforms that decide their future role.
As far as dropping all the cash on this RDRAM and i820 mess, it's small beans for them. Intel has *HUGE* cash reserves, on the order of $11 billion dollars in cash and equivalents. It's liabilities are much smaller, on the order of just over $1 billion dollars. So it's not money that is going to be Intel's problem, its going to be reputation, marketshare, and people looking for alternatives.
Intel has always been a pioneer and an innovator. And they continue to do that, unfortunately they can only maintain problems like this in a market recently opened up to competition for just so long. People already are and will continue to start taking solutions from AMD seriously, as with other competitors.
An accurate report from The Register? *gasp*
Everyone's favorite rumormill speaks truth? *gasp*
A followup with facts as opposed to unsubstantiated poor journalism? *gasp*
Can't be.
The old adage applies here: "It's not what you have, it's how you use it."
No one cared about Standard Oil, AT&T having a monopoly. But when they started abusing that position and discouraging competition. That is when it becomes time to take action. Standard Oil controlled the oil, AT&T controlled the phone lines. Both companies used these resources as a leverage to keep their position comfortable. Microsoft controls something a bit less tangible. Marketshare. With which comes the standards and the protocols. If anyone wants to compete with Microsoft, they have to play by their rules, and if they don't. Microsoft has plenty of tricks to keep them under control.
Linux zealotry and idealism aside. I don't think anyone would complain if Linux had 100% marketshare, because the standards are in the control of someone other than the controlling body. They are public domain and if Linus decided to pervert things to his choosing, such as has been done in Windows, then there would still be plenty of avenues to circumvent these decisions.
And I think you are taking things for granted. Do you really think that $40 from the autos in America is even close to building and maintaining the millions and millions of miles of publicly owned roads in this country. I don't claim it to be a perfect system, but I think we are better off than many people would like to admit.
The multiple distros is also what keeps them honest. It's called competition and choice. If Red Hat decides they want to start doing something like making MS Office 2000 for Linux integrated into its distro. If you don't like it, what do you? You go get a copy of Debian or SuSE, or you reprogram stuff to your liking, assuming you possess that knowledge. If Microsoft integrates MS Office 2000 into Windows. What choice do you have? None. I think the multiple distro model is quite beneficial and will be here to stay. Not to mention it provides variations on the same operating system. Red Hat is a nice general distro, Corel makes a good desktop setup, SuSE is quite easy to install, et al. That way you can pick the one that fits you best, and still be compatible with all the rest.
I do agree that I wish the government would spend our money better. But that's the way things happen. I'm fairly content with they way things are being done. The government provides a lot of money for research. And much of this research is put to very good use. It's not just wasted money. I'm pretty sure the research was more along the lines of genetic causes of obesity, not just overeating and poor excercise habits. Think about it. I'll let you know when I'm ready to start the revolution.
And if by making good marketing decisions, you really meant to say leveraging their monopoly and discouraging competition.
And if by making a very user friendly product, you really meant an nice user interface on a closed kernel that has become bloated and unwieldy over time, with sparse configurability and general poor OS design, but that's another thread entirely.
Then I'd agree with you. Thank you for your time.
The piling on of goodies is the basis of distros. Because they aren't in control or responsible for the kernel. They goodies aren't irreversibly integrated either.
Microsoft was 'piling' on Internet Explorer to leverage its browser market share.
It would be very easy to disable an http server or a broswer in linux without royally borking anything. Not so with Internet Explorer. The only way I was ever able to rid myself of it was to replace the W98 shell with the W95 one and Litestep.
I don't think a breakup is the answer either. If you break MSFT up into OS and Apps companies. You still have mini-MSFT with a monopoly in OS. I think a solution that gives existing companies a leg up in up development of a competing solution would be most beneficial, since that was what held them back before.
I may point out a few things to you.
1. He does appear to be a radical Libertarian. However, this does not make all Libertarian's dumb, impractical, ignorant, and jerks. I myself tend to lean toward a Libertarian point of view, not quite as radical as he, but leftist nevertheless. Try to make a rational point instead of making useless and insulting generalizations.
2. Second, I agree with you. Many radical Libertarians have this delusion that corporations left unchecked will make the world a better place. Correct, greed does NOT have this effect.
3. Nit-pick, yes. Communism is the total opposite of Libertarianism. Communism is the government control and pubic ownership of everything in the interest of the people, a communal living of sorts. Whereas Libertarianism is government totally hands off and private ownership.
The most successful society will not be a total ideal of any particular group, but will be a blend and hybrid of several. Try not to be such a flamer, and be a bit more open minded, eh?
Why do we need to get a tag for our cars? And why does some silly piece of metal or some little sticker cost $40? I can see the value of the tag if our cars get stolen or for identification purposes for a cop, but why $40? and why renew it every year? You know why? Revenue...they want YOUR money.
... unless you are an investor. Corporations only care about people with money. The government may not always have your best interest when they take 20% of your earnings, but they aren't out to take ALL of your money either. This however, is the entire premise of business. Get all of the consumer's money, using any means needed. The only thing that stops them is government. What do you think all that fine print is about? That's the stuff they don't want to tell you, because they are after your wallet, but Uncle Sam tells them they have to tell you. Reality check. We are living in a fairly good balance of government and business. Get used to it.
You're damn right they want your money. Most systems require revenue to operate. It doesn't cost $40 for the tag. BUT. That money pays for other systems to operate. And there are other costs that it pays for, services for you. Not just the ACTUAL tag. Why does a stamp cost 33 cents? Obviously that piece of sticky paper doesnt cost that much. It pays for them to bring your mail to your house. Think before you flame, dude.
All of you praise the government because they're doing this to MS, well what they are doing is illegal and unethical. The last time I checked the country was built on capitalism and free enterprise. That means NO INTERFERENCE by the governemnt. Hence PRIVATE and FREE. If microsoft dominates the OS market, well good for them, and you know what?? THEY WORKED FOR IT.
Last time I checked, this country hasn't functioned on pure market economy for a LONG time. Public schools, social security, and medicare are all not included in a market economy. Remember Standard Oil and more recently AT&T, I think that history without contest that they were absolutely taking advantage of their situation and that the government was in the right to intervene. I think if Mr. Rockefeller was still around today, you'd be paying a good bit more than a buck and a half for gas. The government is attempting to protect citizens from greedy corporate bastards. If you can think of a better method of doing it, please. Be my guest.
Every week I work hard for my money only to have the government take an illegal portion of it. Oh, I know you'll say but its in the constitution. How many people do you know that can go in your pay check and take out money, other than yourself? The government is doing what normal citizens cant do legally, and frankly Im tired of it.
Don't like it? Then vote for someone who can generate revenue without taxes. Or better yet, run yourself. If you can propose a better solution that would work, you'd have a my vote in a second. Do you honestly think that the government just takes all that money for no apparent reason? News flash, your police, your fire department, your EMS, your 911 system, your sewer system, your park service, your roads, your FDA, your FCC.. et cetera, et al, are ALL paid for by that chunk outa your paycheck. Bitch all you want, but the government is doing you a service in the end. It may not be perfect, but the government is of the people and by the people. You don't like it? Do something about it.
So stop whining about some company doing god, if linux really wants to take over the market, and the companies that make linux really want to make a difference then they need to come together to form one company, instead of 10 different ones, and make a linux package that has the usability and user friendliness comparable to windows
Would you make up your mind, please? In the last unorganized paragraph you have been spouting your anti-government blather in favor of competition and choice. And then you about face and suggest that Linux drop the choice of multiple distros that give people the choice to choose what suits them best, in favor of an all encompassing distro. I think not. Please check your posts for consistency.
Let me point something out to you, which you may not have previously considered.
CORPORATIONS DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU.
They actually wanted it back after you sat in the bathtub with it on your naked thighs. What are they gonna do with it now? Resell it?
I shudder at the mere suggestion.
failing that, cut it.
or cut the red wire from the motherboard and put a switch of some sort in there.
so you can turn it on for normal operation
and off for night time stealth porn hounding.
I may point out that the Mustang is the current core being used by the Athlon.
The chip being slated for servers and SMP is the Athlon Ultra. And is going to be based on the Thunderbird core. With full speed L2 cache, etc.
AMD has three cores right now.
K6 core: yawn.
Mustang: current Athlon core. on-PCB cache.
Thunderbird: planned Athlon core. on-die, full speed cache.
AMD has several chips on their plate right now.
K6-2: old budget chip. being phased out. only goes to 550 Mhz. based on the K6 core.
Athlon: AMD's flagship chip. based on the Mustang core. 512KB of on-PCB L2 cache with decreasing cache multipliers as clock speed increases. 1/2 at 700 Mhz, up to 2/5 at 1 Ghz.
Athlon Ultra: Server and SMP chip. Planned for Q3/Q4 this year. Based on the Thunderbird core.
Duron: Used to be Spitfire. 128KB of full speed on die L2 cache. "budget" chip.
Corvette: AMD's planned mobile processor. Based on the Mustang core, but in the Socket A form factor, instead of the Athlon's current Slot A.
All these chips are based on the EV6 200 Mhz DDR system bus.
By the end of the year, AMD should have a chip to counter every one of Intel's offerings. And it looks like they are quite apt to trounce all of them.
Celeron: Countered by the K6-2. Who cares? The K6-2 utterly abysmal FPU performance notwithstanding, they are somewhat equal.
Pentium 3: Countered by the Athlon. By the year's end, AMD will have a leg up with the 200 Mhz bus, compared to the 133 Mhz bus in use by the CuMines.
Xeon: Intel's server chip. Hello EV6, compared to the Xeon's 133 Mhz bus.
Celeron 2: Countered by the Duron. Same cache, but the Duron's system bus will thrash the Celeron's 66 Mhz bus.
Mobile Pentium 3: Who knows? Who cares? No one overclocks their laptop. I think it's just a P3 in a Socket 1 pack.
Got that? Good.
RDRAM notwithstanding, it should be an interesting fight. I'm loving watching these prices fall. $75 for a 200 Mhz Duron, with full speed on die L2 cache makes me just wanna get up and dance.
Funniest episode yet. I laughed, I cried, it was better than Cats. The video broadcast, puppets, animation, etc.. is a really cool idea.
OS/2 is incredibly stable and quite efficient. It's interesting why it didn't take off. Possibly lack of API support, bad marketing, victim of the Microsoft juggernaut? In any case, the company I intern with uses OS/2 to run its voice mail system, and it has the highest uptime of any system throughout the building. Including the Linux boxen. It's been up for 9 months and some days now. Solid. It gets a fairly good bit of use too, you can walk into the phone room, and hear the hard drive going at it. But it hasn't crashed, paniced, or locked up once. If you can find the applications to do what you want with OS/2, by all means. Do it. That's the trouble though, finding the application.
This is why its called an invasion of privacy. Most people wouldn't mind giving out information, so that DoubleClick could tailor their ads for narrowcasting. If fact, many people complain about getting ads they don't like. But what most people don't like information being compiled about them, and not knowing what information has been compiled. DoubleClick could have actually make this positive from the start by announcing optional narrow casted ads, just by filling out a form. And if it was voluntary, people would love it and I think the response would have been pretty overwhelming.
In a rare display of kaniff replying to a kaniff post. I stand myself corrected. I had heard that id dropped the different sized models during testing. The final version shipped without it, but I believe several of the tests had it somewhat implemented.
It's not often that I correct myself.
In Quake2, that *is* true. All models are the same bounded, with just a different skin. In some of the newer games, I know for sure in Quake3 and Half Life, that it is *not* accurate. Different sized models have different sized bounding boxes, as well as different agilities and movement speeds. I believe this is also true in Unreal Tournament.
Usually its just an enormous deluge of requests. At some point, these requests fill up all the resources available to that machine. It basically stops responding or even reboots.
Farfromfaulten.
seg faulten.
*rimshot*
When he says uncompress I think he means unencode, or returning to the WAV format from which it was encoded. Yes, it will not be as good as the original copy. But the point still stands.
How painfully correct. Capitalism will steamroll democracy every time, if it gets it its path. And big business couldn't care less who they step on as long as their bottom line isn't affected.
Very true.
Another one of the things the DVD CCA wants to do is to create pricing regions to maximise their profits. Here in the states they can sell a DVD for $20 and $25 dollars and people will be all over it. Now somewhere where the standard of living is lower and average incomes are lower, in order to sell well enough to make a profit they have to price them lower.
This prevents people from buying DVD outside of the MPAA's planned profit plans. We wouldn't want that now would we? Things like this make me sick. I can understand the pricing difference, local economies dictate that. But to prevent my Indian DVD from working on my American DVD player is totally inappropriate.