Huh. We own a Tesla and drive up to 14,000 feet and back home with no issues. Going to Mary Jane, a basin, copper or even steamboat is none issues as well.
You might want to take up classes for reading comprehension.
It says that 90% of the cars could be replaced by various EVs that are available today, and it would cover 100% of the driving needs. So 10% of the population would not be met. yet.
no, it is NOT over for human life. Heck, we have seen other super volcanos blow and life does just fine.
The last time that Yellowstone went it was at the high end of a VE7, and is expected this time to be at low-end of VE7 or highend of VE6.
no. Not even CLOSE. The reason is that if a volcano blows, then we are blocked for weeks or months. And if it is yellowstone, it is for YEARS.
THe smart society plans for LONG TERM ISSUES. It is because we used to do that, that we had the electrical grids, telephones, railroads, tugs, airports, and even highways put in all around America. It is also why America at one time developed the vast majority of this AE. Nearly ALL OF THIS happened in America. The issue has become that over the last 30 years, we have gone backwards due to the GOP/neo-cons/tea*. BUT that is a different issue.
Regardless, the smart society PLANS for seucrity issues.
why are you here wasting ours and your time? You have nothing intelligent to contribute to this.
Hell, all nations around the world are working hard to follow this same path.
good posting, but slightly wrong.
You say that micro-grids are the way to go, yet, what is of concern is how to get costs cheap, AND to serve our national SECURITY needs.
For example, we are about to move to EVs for our transportation. Great. Clean. Cheap. And was a Tesla owner, FAST with great driving.
BUT, what happens when volcano blows or another nation controls the weather better? Clouds. LOTS OF CLOUDS. ANd a loss of sun, which also drops the wind. So, right when you need the energy, it goes away if we are heavily dependant on solar/wind.
OTOH, if we have a MATRIX of electricity and we use the grid to move electricity across the nation, it means that if we lose power in one area (blocked sun, attacks, etc), then we can use the grid to help various areas.
As to economics, a matrix normally is best. If you become dependant on one energy input, then you have to bolster it in some other fashion.
It is for that reason that I LOVE Solar over Parking lots, roof tops, but hate it in massive projects out in the desert or other areas. We need to provide cheap electricity to buildings and batteries, so that they form a good chunck of the grid.
well, because the only way for these to be economical, is to have either extreme cheapness, OR extreme long life.
As it is, companies like EOS Energy have a flow battery that will last 30+ Years.
Then we have Tesla which will provide Li-ion batteries for homes/small businesses that will last ~10 years.
The question becomes, how economical are they? Both appear to have their place used in the right area. EOS Energy is great for large businesses, and utility scale. Tesla for small situations.
actually, we need to have storage for homes, businesses AND MICRO GRIDS.
One the of the things that we did right in North America was build multiple federated grids between America and Canada.
THe problem is that we stopped improving it long ago. We need to move towards SMALL grids with batteries right at the doorway between the smaller grid and the bigger grids.
Seriously, the idea that storage will solve the need for base-load energy is just amazing to me. The reason is that MOST of the AE that is being pushed is from the sun and easily blocked. Many will claim no, but any number of the major volcanos on the west coast, can block 5-20% of our sunlight. That will bring solar AND WIND down quickly. This issue does not include the coming ability to control weather and then force clouds to block the sun elsewhere.
As such, we NEED clean base-load power. Geo-thermal is great, but limited. H2O is Limited in America. As such, we need Nuclear power. Everybody wants Fusion, but we also need to clean up our current nuke waste. The best way is to build gen 4 reactors and then burn up the majority of that waste.
And yet, ppl like mdsolar will continue to fight against Nukes, and push an AE ONLY future, even though it can not solve the CO2 problem in time.
It's bad enough that people are profiting from Snowden's treason, but adding salt to the wound, the Obama administration is doing nothing about it.
I love how neo-cons/tea# are coming to this site always screaming and lying about O or Hillary. So what can O do? Snowden lives in Russia and published via China. Exactly what can O do? Nothing.
No, he would be. Had he released just information related to NSAs illegal activities, then he would be fine.
But, he detailed how spy on other nations and even terrorist groups. IOW, he is a traitor.
With this being Gartner, you know that this is not even close to being true. Basically, the company is bought out by MS constantly and delivers nothing but lies on their numbers.
A crack that allows you to control a large number of vehicles IS important and needs to be solved
OTOH, a hack in which you modify a single car to interfere with another single car's ability to drive is absolutely WORTHLESS. Why?
Assume that somebody is going to go after another person because they are rich or something. Then said person likely is driving themselves OR has a chauffer.
Let assume that this is used to go after a kid or a neighbor, etc. IOW, you just want to punish somebody. Now, you have to spend 100K to do so.
How many of you will do so? None.
This is your typical CHinese BS in which these ppl are trying to make themselves look good by making wild ass claims.
With that said, the real culprit on these was NOT Telsa, but Mobileye. And in this case, Tesla is RUNNING away from them. IOW, they know that they are too expensive for what they deliver.
While I DO think that W SHOULD have stopped NK from doing Nuke Development (there is NO civilian purpose for it), space is a different issue. While Launch Systems can be re-tasked into missiles, it does not change the fact that they do have a civilian use. And this should be true for all nations.
Claiming that Tesla is losing 1B / year is a joke. On their cars, they are actually making a NICE PROFIT. The problem is that they are investing heavily into:
1) replacing 3rd party suppliers with in-house production.
2) adding massive numbers of Super Chargers.
3) adding massive numbers of service and show rooms.
4) R&Ding T3.
5) R&Ding a new bus, new Semi, new Truck, and new Roadster.
6) R&Ding a new factory line for T3.
7) R&Ding a new battery manufacturing plant.
8) R&Ding a new battery chemistry
etc, etc. etc.
Basically, they have around 60,000 cars / year development paying for the above, which is not enough. So, they are grabbing money from other sources and gearing up to take out major companies before they can take out Tesla.
Now, you can BS all you want, but this is no different than what Henry Ford went through with his Ford, and what Bezo went through with Amazon, or what the Google boys went through with Google. Basically, all saw that they had to grow FAST while the chance was hot.
only a fool or a FUDer from another car company, would make such a claim.
Tesla could produce 1M cars TODAY AND WOULD STILL BE BEHIND. Why? Because they are a wanted quantity. Simple as that.
They are not missing their goals by much. In addition, NOBODY since Henry ford 100 years ago, has ever grown as fast as they have.
And to make the clean that you will get your T3 in 10 years, means that you have not even taken note of the fact that they will be at 100,000 cars at year end.
And at this time, I suspect that they will be able to gear up to 500,000 easily since T3 is quite a simplier car than the S and X, AND the fact that Tesla has pulled a lot of their 3rd party parts in-house. Basically, if 3rd party can NOT do the job, they will do it themselves.
Seriously, it would be nice if Google offered up partnership in their cable company to Amazon and Netflix. OR let them start their own, with google setting them up on how to compete. After all, the faster that we get competition out there amongst all states, the faster that Amazon, Netflix, Google, etc can see their speeds go without paying anything to current bandwidth providers.
While orders for nearly all other car makers are slowing down, Tesla continues to grow faster. In fact, it has always been ahead of supply.
And upon looking at competitors to Model X, we can see that they are also slowing down FASTER than the average.
Seriously, AP will likely make a HUGE dent in drunken driving. By 2020, it will be apparent that owners of AP cars, such as Tesla, no longer get into accidents, including when drinking.
Turns out that in Europe, they have emission laws on cars that requires them to be tigher than Americas, BUT, once past testing, they open it wide up and pollute like they are China. That is why when you look at the CO2 maps from OCO-2, you realize that Europe is actually emitting more than America does.
Basically, nations are cheating when they can.
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Huh. We own a Tesla and drive up to 14,000 feet and back home with no issues. Going to Mary Jane, a basin, copper or even steamboat is none issues as well.
You have a used golf cart POS and then insist that you not get an EV version of it?
Lol. And that is why Tesla pre-sold 400,000 model 3s and why German car makers are in near states of panic at realizing that consumers want EVs.
You might want to take up classes for reading comprehension. It says that 90% of the cars could be replaced by various EVs that are available today, and it would cover 100% of the driving needs. So 10% of the population would not be met. yet.
no, it is NOT over for human life. Heck, we have seen other super volcanos blow and life does just fine.
The last time that Yellowstone went it was at the high end of a VE7, and is expected this time to be at low-end of VE7 or highend of VE6.
And here you go: But a Yellowstone megablast would not wipe out life on Earth. There were no extinctions after its last three enormous eruptions, nor have other supereruptions triggered extinctions in the last few million years. [Wipeout: History's 7 Most Mysterious Extinctions]
However, it WOULD be criminal for our politicians to NOT plan for needing electricity since we are about to become very dependent on it. This is why I go after the far left. They continue to ignore facts, logic and science just like the far right and China are doing. Basically, the far left has become complicit in causing as much of the world destruction as the far right and China are doing.
no. Not even CLOSE. The reason is that if a volcano blows, then we are blocked for weeks or months. And if it is yellowstone, it is for YEARS.
THe smart society plans for LONG TERM ISSUES. It is because we used to do that, that we had the electrical grids, telephones, railroads, tugs, airports, and even highways put in all around America. It is also why America at one time developed the vast majority of this AE. Nearly ALL OF THIS happened in America. The issue has become that over the last 30 years, we have gone backwards due to the GOP/neo-cons/tea*. BUT that is a different issue.
Regardless, the smart society PLANS for seucrity issues.
why are you here wasting ours and your time? You have nothing intelligent to contribute to this.
Hell, all nations around the world are working hard to follow this same path.
good posting, but slightly wrong.
You say that micro-grids are the way to go, yet, what is of concern is how to get costs cheap, AND to serve our national SECURITY needs.
For example, we are about to move to EVs for our transportation. Great. Clean. Cheap. And was a Tesla owner, FAST with great driving.
BUT, what happens when volcano blows or another nation controls the weather better? Clouds. LOTS OF CLOUDS. ANd a loss of sun, which also drops the wind. So, right when you need the energy, it goes away if we are heavily dependant on solar/wind.
OTOH, if we have a MATRIX of electricity and we use the grid to move electricity across the nation, it means that if we lose power in one area (blocked sun, attacks, etc), then we can use the grid to help various areas.
As to economics, a matrix normally is best. If you become dependant on one energy input, then you have to bolster it in some other fashion. It is for that reason that I LOVE Solar over Parking lots, roof tops, but hate it in massive projects out in the desert or other areas. We need to provide cheap electricity to buildings and batteries, so that they form a good chunck of the grid.
well, because the only way for these to be economical, is to have either extreme cheapness, OR extreme long life.
As it is, companies like EOS Energy have a flow battery that will last 30+ Years.
Then we have Tesla which will provide Li-ion batteries for homes/small businesses that will last ~10 years.
The question becomes, how economical are they? Both appear to have their place used in the right area. EOS Energy is great for large businesses, and utility scale. Tesla for small situations.
actually, we need to have storage for homes, businesses AND MICRO GRIDS.
One the of the things that we did right in North America was build multiple federated grids between America and Canada.
THe problem is that we stopped improving it long ago. We need to move towards SMALL grids with batteries right at the doorway between the smaller grid and the bigger grids.
Seriously, the idea that storage will solve the need for base-load energy is just amazing to me. The reason is that MOST of the AE that is being pushed is from the sun and easily blocked. Many will claim no, but any number of the major volcanos on the west coast, can block 5-20% of our sunlight. That will bring solar AND WIND down quickly. This issue does not include the coming ability to control weather and then force clouds to block the sun elsewhere.
As such, we NEED clean base-load power. Geo-thermal is great, but limited. H2O is Limited in America. As such, we need Nuclear power. Everybody wants Fusion, but we also need to clean up our current nuke waste. The best way is to build gen 4 reactors and then burn up the majority of that waste.
And yet, ppl like mdsolar will continue to fight against Nukes, and push an AE ONLY future, even though it can not solve the CO2 problem in time.
Standard Innovation Corporation's or SIC will become Data Innovation Corporation or DIC.
traitor:
a person who betrays a friend, country, principle, etc.
"they see me as a traitor, a sellout to the enemy"
Looks like the proper definition and snowden fits it exactly.
It's bad enough that people are profiting from Snowden's treason, but adding salt to the wound, the Obama administration is doing nothing about it.
I love how neo-cons/tea# are coming to this site always screaming and lying about O or Hillary. So what can O do? Snowden lives in Russia and published via China. Exactly what can O do? Nothing.
No, he would be. Had he released just information related to NSAs illegal activities, then he would be fine. But, he detailed how spy on other nations and even terrorist groups. IOW, he is a traitor.
With this being Gartner, you know that this is not even close to being true. Basically, the company is bought out by MS constantly and delivers nothing but lies on their numbers.
A crack that allows you to control a large number of vehicles IS important and needs to be solved
OTOH, a hack in which you modify a single car to interfere with another single car's ability to drive is absolutely WORTHLESS. Why?
Assume that somebody is going to go after another person because they are rich or something. Then said person likely is driving themselves OR has a chauffer.
Let assume that this is used to go after a kid or a neighbor, etc. IOW, you just want to punish somebody. Now, you have to spend 100K to do so.
How many of you will do so? None.
This is your typical CHinese BS in which these ppl are trying to make themselves look good by making wild ass claims.
With that said, the real culprit on these was NOT Telsa, but Mobileye. And in this case, Tesla is RUNNING away from them. IOW, they know that they are too expensive for what they deliver.
While I DO think that W SHOULD have stopped NK from doing Nuke Development (there is NO civilian purpose for it), space is a different issue. While Launch Systems can be re-tasked into missiles, it does not change the fact that they do have a civilian use. And this should be true for all nations.
Claiming that Tesla is losing 1B / year is a joke. On their cars, they are actually making a NICE PROFIT. The problem is that they are investing heavily into : .
1) replacing 3rd party suppliers with in-house production.
2) adding massive numbers of Super Chargers
3) adding massive numbers of service and show rooms.
4) R&Ding T3. 5) R&Ding a new bus, new Semi, new Truck, and new Roadster.
6) R&Ding a new factory line for T3.
7) R&Ding a new battery manufacturing plant.
8) R&Ding a new battery chemistry
etc, etc. etc.
Basically, they have around 60,000 cars / year development paying for the above, which is not enough. So, they are grabbing money from other sources and gearing up to take out major companies before they can take out Tesla.
Now, you can BS all you want, but this is no different than what Henry Ford went through with his Ford, and what Bezo went through with Amazon, or what the Google boys went through with Google. Basically, all saw that they had to grow FAST while the chance was hot.
only a fool or a FUDer from another car company, would make such a claim.
Tesla could produce 1M cars TODAY AND WOULD STILL BE BEHIND. Why? Because they are a wanted quantity. Simple as that.
They are not missing their goals by much. In addition, NOBODY since Henry ford 100 years ago, has ever grown as fast as they have.
And to make the clean that you will get your T3 in 10 years, means that you have not even taken note of the fact that they will be at 100,000 cars at year end.
And at this time, I suspect that they will be able to gear up to 500,000 easily since T3 is quite a simplier car than the S and X, AND the fact that Tesla has pulled a lot of their 3rd party parts in-house. Basically, if 3rd party can NOT do the job, they will do it themselves.
Seriously, it would be nice if Google offered up partnership in their cable company to Amazon and Netflix. OR let them start their own, with google setting them up on how to compete. After all, the faster that we get competition out there amongst all states, the faster that Amazon, Netflix, Google, etc can see their speeds go without paying anything to current bandwidth providers.
While orders for nearly all other car makers are slowing down, Tesla continues to grow faster. In fact, it has always been ahead of supply.
And upon looking at competitors to Model X, we can see that they are also slowing down FASTER than the average.
Seriously, AP will likely make a HUGE dent in drunken driving. By 2020, it will be apparent that owners of AP cars, such as Tesla, no longer get into accidents, including when drinking.
This is why I run a whole house filter, followed by water softner, followed by decent filters on drinking water.
Turns out that in Europe, they have emission laws on cars that requires them to be tigher than Americas, BUT, once past testing, they open it wide up and pollute like they are China. That is why when you look at the CO2 maps from OCO-2, you realize that Europe is actually emitting more than America does.
Basically, nations are cheating when they can.