Seriously, the mistake that everybody is making is stopping new ultra-safe reactors from replacing these old second gen reactors. Companies like Transatomic can make it so that the reactor can not fail.
Hawaiian Electric is also restarting its long-delayed plan to bring a smart meter to every customer by 2018, he said. In February, HECO picked Silver Spring Networks for a deployment that’s meant to include customer energy management portals, direct load control, volt/VAR optimization, prepayment options, and distributed generation integration, as well as smart meters.
2) with HECO charging $.332 / kWH, they are the MOST expensive electricity in the nation (national average is.12 / kWH). Interestingly, the Solar panals are just a bit more expensive to install in hawaii than on a mainland home. As such, Hawaii has the MOST number of panels installed with more than 12% now having them. The next closest is California with only 2-3%. As such, ALL of hawaii's solar install will have a payback in less than 10 years WITHOUT subsidies, and
that is with a net metering of only.218 / kWH.
3) all of the island utilities are being forced to change their systems. Basically, they are all looking for large quantities of storage. And here and here.
Basically, in less than 5 years, HECO and the rest of Hawaii will lead the nation, if not the world, in having one of the most cleanest electricity going. Also, since flow batteries are now lower costs than nat gas plants, that means that HECO will likely be forced to DROP their prices. I would not be surprised to see them drop all the way below the mainland's average costs.
EXACTLY.
It is the same BS when ppl claim that electricity can now replace 100% of oil. Yet, they ignore the fact that batteries are NOT ready for semi trucks or that Oil is used for more than just energy. Basically, ppl do not think this through. Electric cars can and should help smooth the electric curve, but then they will need to be charged in the middle of the night. As such, the question becomes what do you use? Wind can NOT be counted on. Solar is gone. And coal is too expensive. In light of climate change, then nat gas will also be a mistake long term.
As such, the only real base-load power plants should be things like hyrdo, nukes, geo-thermal. These should be combined with wind to lower the costs and keep from taking all of the energy. For example, if geo-thermal is ran at 100% all of the time, each well will lower their temp over time. Instead, you want to use it only part of the time and allow earth energy to continue to flow to it. Therefore wind and nukes are great back-ups to it.
You do realize that tesla Motors is an AC motor, AC system, and only the battery, inverter, and super charger are DC. Yes?
Tesla Motors will NOT make any changes in grid systems, so absolutely nothing ironic about it.
LOL. Right now, the average car in the west costs more than $30K. Tesla's current car starts at $70K. However, in less than 3 years, they will have another one that will start at 35K. And if all goes well, by 5 years out, they will have GOOD sub-compacts that are below 27K.
Ppl will buy. In fact, Tesla will likely be in the top 5 car companies in 5 years, and possibly #1 within 10. The reason is because all of the other car companies are desperate to keep ICE going, and bring in fuel cells that use methane or H2 stripped from methane.
BUT, that is NOT what buyers want, esp. when it takes almost as long to re-fuel one of these as a tesla, and will costs 5x its initial and operating costs.
Not tesla.
Solar City is going to transform from a simple solar company, to an energy company.
They are currently working towards geo-thermal and wind energy.
There is some evidence that they are also working on nukes.
What will happen is that Utilities WILL change, but they will not die. They are expected to deliver not just electricity, but nat gas in most of them.
Instead, what will happen is that they will simply move away from peaking plants, and use batteries instead. These will be charged by wind, nukes, and nat gas power plants through the night. Then in the daytime, they will be able to provide solid electricity quickly.
In addition, this will allow utilities to move away from a large multiple utility grid (America has 3 grids), and instead use a number of small grids in which excess local solar is sold to the utility for their batteries, while a faster, larger grid will allow for large base-load plants to provide electricity.
So, when MS is claiming that Utlities are dead, they could not be more wrong. They will just transform and very likely will make a decent profit upon their grid and energy storage.
That was not R&D. That was taking out a sat that still had fuel and it was on the edge of the atmosphere.
There is a HUGE difference in our taking out a falling sat, vs. in active development of a massive anti-sat program.
The technology that we developed was from the 60's. And then USSR and America did treaties that forbade just that. So, no, we really do not have any. OTOH, China does not have treaties forbidding them, and refuse to enter into any that will.
It really is amazing that with only 2 models, that they will be producing roughly 50K instances each year of high-end $80-90k vehicles. And that is with less than 1/5 of the world actually having the ability to buy these.
Compare that to say porsche. Last year, they sold 165K cars. 2 of these are similar to what Tesla has/will have: the Cayennes, which is similar to Model X and their panamera which is similar to Model S.
While the Cayennes has grown each year to just under 20K unit, the Panermera grew each year to 7.7K in 2012, but dropped more than 20% just last year to 5.5K. Very likely, the Model X will destroy the Cayennes and other wanna-be POSs sales quicker than what Model S did.
And I am sure that Tesla is putting a bite on other makers as well.
What it comes to, is that the longer that the other makers avoid doing pure inexpensive electric cars, the faster their sales will drop each year. As it is, Toyota, Honda, BMW, and Audi are looking to bet big on H2 Fuel cells. Worst idea going. By the time that they finally adjust, they will each have lost large amounts of their volume similar to what is SpaceX is doing to ULA, Russia, and Airbus.
Actually, if you look at the I3, it has the interior of a $20K car. Worst yet, with it being electric, it should have spectacular performance, and yet, it drives like any other POS car out there. IOW, just like a ford and any BMW that costs under 100K.
well, no. It really is overvalued at this point. Even Musk has said so. With this was a mature company, it would be around 50/share at this point. So being some 5x over, is just crazy.
I think that a correction WILL occur, but it will probably never drop to 50. In fact, I am betting that it will hit 150 again (without a split) but no lower.
And it is not just R*D that is costing them. It is building out showrooms and supercharger network. That is huge.
The problem with what you are saying is that if our comms and spy sats are taken out, AND somebody launches quickly from the ocean, then it is possible to destroy a nation, even America.
And China's work is headed in that direction. As I said elsewhere, back in the original cold war, American and Russian leaders did NOT want nuke war, and in fact, put limits on what our nations could do to prevent making first strike winnable.
But China refuses those changes. Worst yet, they have a massive spying going on over here which is letting them know exactly what we have, and how to take it out.
No, China is to be feared because they will in fact, cause a nuke war if they continue on this path.
Not at all. The neo-cons/tea* are hard are work trying to kill off SpaceX, SNC, while keep alive Boeing, L-Mart and ULA, even though the later costs us almost 300% more.
Uh, no. MIRV, and solid rockets are very different from space flight, esp. when none of their 'civilian' rockets are solid based.
And trying to hide what you are up, combined with working to be able to take out spying and comm links at once, is NOT about achieving parity.
Not only must it include CHina, but their allies. In particular, North Korea, Burma, Iran, and Venezuela.
Basically, China is in the process of building their own NATO with a quiet spread out system.
Really? You do not think that Russia and China are not spying on an equal, if not higher level? Hmmm. You obviously have not worked in a security position.
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Seriously, the mistake that everybody is making is stopping new ultra-safe reactors from replacing these old second gen reactors. Companies like Transatomic can make it so that the reactor can not fail.
1) HECO only stopped net metering for less than a year. In fact, they are getting ready to re-start it NOW.
Hawaiian Electric is also restarting its long-delayed plan to bring a smart meter to every customer by 2018, he said. In February, HECO picked Silver Spring Networks for a deployment that’s meant to include customer energy management portals, direct load control, volt/VAR optimization, prepayment options, and distributed generation integration, as well as smart meters.
2) with HECO charging $.332 / kWH, they are the MOST expensive electricity in the nation (national average is .12 / kWH). Interestingly, the Solar panals are just a bit more expensive to install in hawaii than on a mainland home. As such, Hawaii has the MOST number of panels installed with more than 12% now having them. The next closest is California with only 2-3%. As such, ALL of hawaii's solar install will have a payback in less than 10 years WITHOUT subsidies, and
that is with a net metering of only .218 / kWH.
3) all of the island utilities are being forced to change their systems. Basically, they are all looking for large quantities of storage.
And here and here.
Basically, in less than 5 years, HECO and the rest of Hawaii will lead the nation, if not the world, in having one of the most cleanest electricity going. Also, since flow batteries are now lower costs than nat gas plants, that means that HECO will likely be forced to DROP their prices. I would not be surprised to see them drop all the way below the mainland's average costs.
EXACTLY.
It is the same BS when ppl claim that electricity can now replace 100% of oil. Yet, they ignore the fact that batteries are NOT ready for semi trucks or that Oil is used for more than just energy. Basically, ppl do not think this through. Electric cars can and should help smooth the electric curve, but then they will need to be charged in the middle of the night. As such, the question becomes what do you use? Wind can NOT be counted on. Solar is gone. And coal is too expensive. In light of climate change, then nat gas will also be a mistake long term.
As such, the only real base-load power plants should be things like hyrdo, nukes, geo-thermal. These should be combined with wind to lower the costs and keep from taking all of the energy. For example, if geo-thermal is ran at 100% all of the time, each well will lower their temp over time. Instead, you want to use it only part of the time and allow earth energy to continue to flow to it. Therefore wind and nukes are great back-ups to it.
You do realize that tesla Motors is an AC motor, AC system, and only the battery, inverter, and super charger are DC. Yes?
Tesla Motors will NOT make any changes in grid systems, so absolutely nothing ironic about it.
LOL. Right now, the average car in the west costs more than $30K. Tesla's current car starts at $70K. However, in less than 3 years, they will have another one that will start at 35K. And if all goes well, by 5 years out, they will have GOOD sub-compacts that are below 27K.
Ppl will buy. In fact, Tesla will likely be in the top 5 car companies in 5 years, and possibly #1 within 10. The reason is because all of the other car companies are desperate to keep ICE going, and bring in fuel cells that use methane or H2 stripped from methane.
BUT, that is NOT what buyers want, esp. when it takes almost as long to re-fuel one of these as a tesla, and will costs 5x its initial and operating costs.
Not tesla.
Solar City is going to transform from a simple solar company, to an energy company.
They are currently working towards geo-thermal and wind energy.
There is some evidence that they are also working on nukes.
What will happen is that Utilities WILL change, but they will not die. They are expected to deliver not just electricity, but nat gas in most of them.
Instead, what will happen is that they will simply move away from peaking plants, and use batteries instead. These will be charged by wind, nukes, and nat gas power plants through the night. Then in the daytime, they will be able to provide solid electricity quickly.
In addition, this will allow utilities to move away from a large multiple utility grid (America has 3 grids), and instead use a number of small grids in which excess local solar is sold to the utility for their batteries, while a faster, larger grid will allow for large base-load plants to provide electricity.
For those of you who say that batteries are not coming, then ignore Tesla and focus on multiple companies that are doing flow batteries.
In particular, my favorite remains EOS energy.
These are now being built and tested by multiple utilities. For example, on the east coast, which has high prices for electricity, they are now testing these.
Then we have California that requires that utilities will have more than 1 GWH of storage.
So, when MS is claiming that Utlities are dead, they could not be more wrong. They will just transform and very likely will make a decent profit upon their grid and energy storage.
Per a NUMBER of various regs, the avionics network is physically separated from anything that the passengers can touch.
IOW, not going to happen.
As to the passenger's network, oh yeaj, easy enough to crack that with time. Heck, Airbus uses Windows.
That was not R&D. That was taking out a sat that still had fuel and it was on the edge of the atmosphere.
There is a HUGE difference in our taking out a falling sat, vs. in active development of a massive anti-sat program.
The technology that we developed was from the 60's. And then USSR and America did treaties that forbade just that. So, no, we really do not have any. OTOH, China does not have treaties forbidding them, and refuse to enter into any that will.
It really is amazing that with only 2 models, that they will be producing roughly 50K instances each year of high-end $80-90k vehicles. And that is with less than 1/5 of the world actually having the ability to buy these.
Compare that to say porsche. Last year, they sold 165K cars. 2 of these are similar to what Tesla has/will have: the Cayennes, which is similar to Model X and their panamera which is similar to Model S.
While the Cayennes has grown each year to just under 20K unit, the Panermera grew each year to 7.7K in 2012, but dropped more than 20% just last year to 5.5K. Very likely, the Model X will destroy the Cayennes and other wanna-be POSs sales quicker than what Model S did.
And I am sure that Tesla is putting a bite on other makers as well.
What it comes to, is that the longer that the other makers avoid doing pure inexpensive electric cars, the faster their sales will drop each year. As it is, Toyota, Honda, BMW, and Audi are looking to bet big on H2 Fuel cells. Worst idea going. By the time that they finally adjust, they will each have lost large amounts of their volume similar to what is SpaceX is doing to ULA, Russia, and Airbus.
Actually, if you look at the I3, it has the interior of a $20K car. Worst yet, with it being electric, it should have spectacular performance, and yet, it drives like any other POS car out there. IOW, just like a ford and any BMW that costs under 100K.
well, no. It really is overvalued at this point. Even Musk has said so. With this was a mature company, it would be around 50/share at this point. So being some 5x over, is just crazy.
I think that a correction WILL occur, but it will probably never drop to 50. In fact, I am betting that it will hit 150 again (without a split) but no lower.
And it is not just R*D that is costing them. It is building out showrooms and supercharger network. That is huge.
You need to go study some history to realize that it is very sane to compare the 2.
The problem with what you are saying is that if our comms and spy sats are taken out, AND somebody launches quickly from the ocean, then it is possible to destroy a nation, even America.
And China's work is headed in that direction. As I said elsewhere, back in the original cold war, American and Russian leaders did NOT want nuke war, and in fact, put limits on what our nations could do to prevent making first strike winnable.
But China refuses those changes. Worst yet, they have a massive spying going on over here which is letting them know exactly what we have, and how to take it out.
No, China is to be feared because they will in fact, cause a nuke war if they continue on this path.
Nope. That is one of two POSSIBLE locations.
Not at all. The neo-cons/tea* are hard are work trying to kill off SpaceX, SNC, while keep alive Boeing, L-Mart and ULA, even though the later costs us almost 300% more.
Both Venezuela and Burma are working on nukes even now. So, no, they belong in the game.
Less than a couple of miles of tunnels in a VERY tight 10 mile area, is easy compared to going after 3000 miles of tunnel.
Actually, they are 'borrowing' much of that technology from the west, israel, and Russia, and simply building it.
Uh, no. MIRV, and solid rockets are very different from space flight, esp. when none of their 'civilian' rockets are solid based.
And trying to hide what you are up, combined with working to be able to take out spying and comm links at once, is NOT about achieving parity.
Not only must it include CHina, but their allies. In particular, North Korea, Burma, Iran, and Venezuela.
Basically, China is in the process of building their own NATO with a quiet spread out system.
Really? You do not think that Russia and China are not spying on an equal, if not higher level? Hmmm. You obviously have not worked in a security position.
Lasers and Rail guns. In addition, I have to wonder with CHina's actions esp. in space, what reactions the west is taking?
Did you forget Iran? And Venezuela was said to be working with China/North Korea, as is Burma.