This would like the NAZI party calling for the end of killing jews after hitler was caught.
The fact is, that all of this spying was started and pushed by the RNC.
Actually, I just read up on the tariffs on trucks. Did not realize that we had that. However, it was passed in the 60 and was retaliation for Europe barring our Chicken exports to them. Still, we are apparently talking about ending those. In addition, all other vehicles are subject to 2% tariffs, nothing more.
BTW, that is not 65% of China's production, That is China claiming that 65% of their capability is coal. I am guessing that they are probably lying about their stated numbers of wind and solar, which is why Coal makes up so much.
yeah, I always have to laugh when ppl speak of using clean hydro, etc. while ignoring the fact that USA has 3 grids. IOW, I get part of my electrons from washington and idaho, even though I live in Colorado. A small number, but still there.
no, because coal without pollution control, accounts for 80% of China's electricity. In fact, it has been at 80% for 20 years. More importantly, Chinese plans call for Coal plants, OR coal=>methane (dumping CO2 into the air) => burned in a plant, to remain at 80% over the next 20 years. Worst of all, they expect to DOUBLE what they currently do. For 2013, they are at 33% of the world's emissions. By 2017, they were expected to be close to 1/2. Now, with Germany and Japan killing their nukes, and re-starting coal, that might not be the case.
China has one of the highest tariffs in the world. Technically, per the CLinton deal, along with WTO, it is not supposed to be the case. But, they have ignored all of the treaties and run up massive tariffs. Then grip if USA is about to do one.
is because the Chinese claimed that it was a Chinese Tesla Motor Car. IOW, he was a pure troll, nothing more. Now, had he been off developing something totally none-related, he likely would have stood a chance. But when you are a a troll, even China will sometimes strick you down.
Sadly, what you just wrote is 100% the case. That is why we need the consumption tax on goods based on where it and parts come from and how the CO2 flows in and out of the regions.
One simple deal for them is to allow keystone pipeline through. However, do it as part of a compromise. Tax the oil that flows through at a $1/bl, and use that as a subsidy for the next 10 years to get our small to medium size vehicles moved to electric and large vehicles moved to Nat. Gas. esp. as a Serial Hybrid
At the same time, increase taxes on gas/diesel vehicles by.25/gal/year, and add $.01/KWH for electric vehicles charged in the daytime. The gas and electric tax would then go to the state, while the diesel tax should go to the feds. And the feds should invest a bit of that money into hyperloop.
This is trivial for CA, in fact the west, to stop. Simply put a consumption tax on all goods based on where they and their sub-parts come from.
Make the tax based on Emissions / $ of GDP, and make it honest emissions, not estimates. So, that would mean OCO2 measures the Carbon that moves in and out of a nation.
Instead, The west will let China and other nations continue to grow their pollution, rather than making a simple change that would cause ALL nations to change their ways.
I agree with most of what you said, with one major exception.
I never said that the tax should be collected globally. I said that our nation should collect the tax on all of the goods that we consume. America is the world's consumer. By it putting that tax on, it will have every nation thinking long term, and making changes.
First off, it does not depend on where you live. Even in Hawaii, electricity is much cheaper than gas/diesel. The reason is simple. An electric motor is much more efficient than any ICE.
As to replacing batteries (assuming recent li-ion batteries), they will outlast over a decade in any western produced car, and will after 10-20 years, costs much less than the original batteries. Even these replacement batteries are much cheaper than all of the maintenance work on ICE.
Now, as to your last lines, sadly, that is mostly spot on. We need to destroy the coal burning plants. They are simply not efficient. Far better to convert coal=>methane via GPE, and then bury the CO2 (or better yet, re-use it for other purposes such as joules unlimited). But, our approach towards nukes is just insane. We desperately need to produce our own nuke plants. In addition, they really need to be thorium plants so as to make use of all of the 'nuke waste' that we have.
And I have no issue with carbon tax schemes as long as they are implemented on all nations and are based on CO2 / GDP. The problem is, that most nations want it to apply to all other nations. They do not beleive that it belongs on themselves. In addition, this idea of CO2 per capita is about the worst idea that I have heard. Nothing fair or sane about it. Co2 is generally not tied to ppl, but mostly to acreage (farming) and more so, GDP.
BUT, they do not like the solutions.
Right now, we have China emitting 1/3 of the world's CO2, and adding Coal-burning plants and coal=>methane plants, at a rate that far exceeds what the west and other parts of the world can cut. And none of that includes the other nations that are building out large numbers of coal plants as well.
IOW, everybody knows that we are headed for a bad time, but nobody wants to be the ones to make real changes. Worse, many want to blame America, yet, it was our research that found this. And now, America has done some of the largest cuts.
1) that was 2012, which was 2 years ago. 2013 just ended, but early estimates show China over 33%.
2) re-read what it says. They are looking to cut their smog and will cut coal consumption in the worst smog regions.It does NOT say that the nation will cut coal consumption.
In addition, the chinese gov. stole GPE's tech, BUT, one company is working with them so as they can manufacture pre-made plants and sell them elsewhere.
3) and yet, it absorbs less than 1% of 1% of what they generate.
4) China makes MANY MANY promises. For example, they have a treaty with Japan that says that they will put pollution control on all of their plants. Sadly, Japan forget to require China to turn them on. FEW of the coal plants actually run pollution control. Then look at the deal that Clinton and WTF made with China. In 2005, they were suppose to allow their money to be free market. In addition, their 90 tariffs were to go to less than 20. They are now close to 500 tariffs. China makes MANY MANY promises, and regularly break them. As it is, their plans leave no doubt that they have ZERO chance of dropping their emissions at all by 2020. In fact, by 2022, it is expected that China will account for 1/2 of all emissions that man has EVER DONE.
5) Other than hydro, China's AE plans are not about increasing their own. It is first about taking it from the west and then doing it local. They do not want to buy anything from the west.
and that is total BS.
1) China's CO2 emissions will be shown to be at 33% of the world's total.
2) China is closing down old coal plants, and opening 'nat gas'/methane plants instead. BUT, the issue is that they are increasing the coal being dug, and converting to methane. The reason is to drop the large particles, so*, etc. However, their means of converting is not only inefficient, but, they will be dumping the CO2 direct to the air.
3) china's planting has nothing to do with Co2. It has everything to do with stopping the desertification that has been occurring.
4) China's own plans do NOT call for slowing down their emissions. In fact, over the next 10 years, the will continue to open 2 new coal plants EACH MONTH. China's own plan's call for China's electricity to be 80% coal by 2030.
5) China's AE plans has nothing to do with changing their power, but about stopping the west from manufacturing these items.
The real reason why kids are not driving is that things are expensive. getting your license is expensive in states that no longer offer it at schools. A car is expensive. Insurance is even more expensive. But then you add on the costs of FUEL. That doubles everything.
But, once we get electric cars below $20K, then only the initial license and insurance will costs a lot. The reason is that a kid will be able to drive for next to nothing.
Look, the tech will simply be done on a distributed basis. We will no doubt pay the CLECs/LECs to hold the computers and data and then be able to access it with a warrant. Basically, it will be the same, except that it will costs us 3x what it currently does.
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Seriously, we need to move to thorium reactors for main systems, along with EOS energy for providing on-demand need.
This would like the NAZI party calling for the end of killing jews after hitler was caught.
The fact is, that all of this spying was started and pushed by the RNC.
Actually, I just read up on the tariffs on trucks. Did not realize that we had that. However, it was passed in the 60 and was retaliation for Europe barring our Chicken exports to them. Still, we are apparently talking about ending those. In addition, all other vehicles are subject to 2% tariffs, nothing more.
BTW, that is not 65% of China's production, That is China claiming that 65% of their capability is coal. I am guessing that they are probably lying about their stated numbers of wind and solar, which is why Coal makes up so much.
yeah, I always have to laugh when ppl speak of using clean hydro, etc. while ignoring the fact that USA has 3 grids. IOW, I get part of my electrons from washington and idaho, even though I live in Colorado. A small number, but still there.
And others claim that is not so.
except that Google does not have a cap.
that was also because they granted them local monopolies.
Nope. Not in the USA we don't.
no, because coal without pollution control, accounts for 80% of China's electricity. In fact, it has been at 80% for 20 years. More importantly, Chinese plans call for Coal plants, OR coal=>methane (dumping CO2 into the air) => burned in a plant, to remain at 80% over the next 20 years. Worst of all, they expect to DOUBLE what they currently do. For 2013, they are at 33% of the world's emissions. By 2017, they were expected to be close to 1/2. Now, with Germany and Japan killing their nukes, and re-starting coal, that might not be the case.
China has one of the highest tariffs in the world. Technically, per the CLinton deal, along with WTO, it is not supposed to be the case. But, they have ignored all of the treaties and run up massive tariffs. Then grip if USA is about to do one.
is because the Chinese claimed that it was a Chinese Tesla Motor Car. IOW, he was a pure troll, nothing more. Now, had he been off developing something totally none-related, he likely would have stood a chance. But when you are a a troll, even China will sometimes strick you down.
Sadly, what you just wrote is 100% the case. That is why we need the consumption tax on goods based on where it and parts come from and how the CO2 flows in and out of the regions.
One simple deal for them is to allow keystone pipeline through. However, do it as part of a compromise. Tax the oil that flows through at a $1/bl, and use that as a subsidy for the next 10 years to get our small to medium size vehicles moved to electric and large vehicles moved to Nat. Gas. esp. as a Serial Hybrid
.25/gal /year, and add $.01/KWH for electric vehicles charged in the daytime. The gas and electric tax would then go to the state, while the diesel tax should go to the feds. And the feds should invest a bit of that money into hyperloop.
At the same time, increase taxes on gas/diesel vehicles by
By doing this, it encourages this change faster.
This is trivial for CA, in fact the west, to stop. Simply put a consumption tax on all goods based on where they and their sub-parts come from.
Make the tax based on Emissions / $ of GDP, and make it honest emissions, not estimates. So, that would mean OCO2 measures the Carbon that moves in and out of a nation.
Instead, The west will let China and other nations continue to grow their pollution, rather than making a simple change that would cause ALL nations to change their ways.
I agree with most of what you said, with one major exception.
I never said that the tax should be collected globally. I said that our nation should collect the tax on all of the goods that we consume. America is the world's consumer. By it putting that tax on, it will have every nation thinking long term, and making changes.
IBM could easily keep this and be innovative. Sadly, it is ran by a bunch of MBA's who are only interested in running up stock prices.
First off, it does not depend on where you live. Even in Hawaii, electricity is much cheaper than gas/diesel. The reason is simple. An electric motor is much more efficient than any ICE.
As to replacing batteries (assuming recent li-ion batteries), they will outlast over a decade in any western produced car, and will after 10-20 years, costs much less than the original batteries. Even these replacement batteries are much cheaper than all of the maintenance work on ICE.
Now, as to your last lines, sadly, that is mostly spot on. We need to destroy the coal burning plants. They are simply not efficient. Far better to convert coal=>methane via GPE, and then bury the CO2 (or better yet, re-use it for other purposes such as joules unlimited). But, our approach towards nukes is just insane. We desperately need to produce our own nuke plants. In addition, they really need to be thorium plants so as to make use of all of the 'nuke waste' that we have.
And I have no issue with carbon tax schemes as long as they are implemented on all nations and are based on CO2 / GDP. The problem is, that most nations want it to apply to all other nations. They do not beleive that it belongs on themselves. In addition, this idea of CO2 per capita is about the worst idea that I have heard. Nothing fair or sane about it. Co2 is generally not tied to ppl, but mostly to acreage (farming) and more so, GDP.
BUT, they do not like the solutions.
Right now, we have China emitting 1/3 of the world's CO2, and adding Coal-burning plants and coal=>methane plants, at a rate that far exceeds what the west and other parts of the world can cut. And none of that includes the other nations that are building out large numbers of coal plants as well.
IOW, everybody knows that we are headed for a bad time, but nobody wants to be the ones to make real changes. Worse, many want to blame America, yet, it was our research that found this. And now, America has done some of the largest cuts.
I never said it was free. But it is a fraction of the price of gasoline or diesel, mile for mile.
1) that was 2012, which was 2 years ago. 2013 just ended, but early estimates show China over 33%.
2) re-read what it says. They are looking to cut their smog and will cut coal consumption in the worst smog regions. It does NOT say that the nation will cut coal consumption. In addition, the chinese gov. stole GPE's tech, BUT, one company is working with them so as they can manufacture pre-made plants and sell them elsewhere.
3) and yet, it absorbs less than 1% of 1% of what they generate.
4) China makes MANY MANY promises. For example, they have a treaty with Japan that says that they will put pollution control on all of their plants. Sadly, Japan forget to require China to turn them on. FEW of the coal plants actually run pollution control. Then look at the deal that Clinton and WTF made with China. In 2005, they were suppose to allow their money to be free market. In addition, their 90 tariffs were to go to less than 20. They are now close to 500 tariffs. China makes MANY MANY promises, and regularly break them. As it is, their plans leave no doubt that they have ZERO chance of dropping their emissions at all by 2020. In fact, by 2022, it is expected that China will account for 1/2 of all emissions that man has EVER DONE.
5) Other than hydro, China's AE plans are not about increasing their own. It is first about taking it from the west and then doing it local. They do not want to buy anything from the west.
and that is total BS.
1) China's CO2 emissions will be shown to be at 33% of the world's total.
2) China is closing down old coal plants, and opening 'nat gas'/methane plants instead. BUT, the issue is that they are increasing the coal being dug, and converting to methane. The reason is to drop the large particles, so*, etc. However, their means of converting is not only inefficient, but, they will be dumping the CO2 direct to the air.
3) china's planting has nothing to do with Co2. It has everything to do with stopping the desertification that has been occurring.
4) China's own plans do NOT call for slowing down their emissions. In fact, over the next 10 years, the will continue to open 2 new coal plants EACH MONTH. China's own plan's call for China's electricity to be 80% coal by 2030. 5) China's AE plans has nothing to do with changing their power, but about stopping the west from manufacturing these items.
Elio looks interesting. That might make a dent, esp. if they get a 5 star rating.
The real reason why kids are not driving is that things are expensive. getting your license is expensive in states that no longer offer it at schools. A car is expensive. Insurance is even more expensive. But then you add on the costs of FUEL. That doubles everything.
But, once we get electric cars below $20K, then only the initial license and insurance will costs a lot. The reason is that a kid will be able to drive for next to nothing.
Look, the tech will simply be done on a distributed basis. We will no doubt pay the CLECs/LECs to hold the computers and data and then be able to access it with a warrant. Basically, it will be the same, except that it will costs us 3x what it currently does.