Tesla HAS offered up to license out the patents. Nobody wants to pay the price. As such, Toyota's rav 4 uses old roadster technology for their batteries and charger. That is why the rav 4 can not make use of the superchargers. And Daimler worked with Tesla for a time, but again, they did not want to pay the high price for licensing their tech. Instead, they want to push fuel cells and hope that they can convince many other nations, including America, to install loads of hydrogen stations. Considering that America has less than 12 stations currently, and only in 3 places, that is not likely to happen here. The only place that has any number of hydrogen stations are Germany and Japan.
But, All of the decent electric patents dealing with electrical cars, are owned by Telsa. Yes, GM, made some patents in the 1980's/1990's. They are ALL expiring. And China forced GM to turn over those patents to them. Ford, Chrysler, Daimler, Audi, VW, Toyota, etc have nothing worthwhile. Nissan does have some as well, but again, nothing of consequence.
It is less than 1/2 of the size of any of the top 3, so no.
BUT, if they can push electric fast with multiple new models next year, they can vastly increase their size quickly.
And you are kidding yourself. Lots of money is going into R&D on both batteries and ultra-caps. However, the DOD needs ultra-caps and LOTS of them. As such, we have a lot more money going into this than anybody realizes. And it will be the USN and USAF that will buy the first major rounds of these, once we get a decent formula, and drop the prices quickly.
I am not a fan of parallel hybrids esp. in small cars (I am fan of serial hybrids for large vehicles). BUT, for getting going, the volt is not a bad first start. Sadly, GM is doing that because they really do not want to go with pure electrics. They want fuel cells, which are nat. gas based, either directly or indirectly. Sad.
If you only have the resources to own a single vehicle, you're not the target market for ANY all electric.
Not entirely accurate, but close. The truth is, that there are plenty of ppl that do not carry plywood, etc. Likewise, a number of these ppl live in a city or a close suburb. For them, a SMALL electric like the leaf, or the Model E when it comes, is perfect.
In addition, if only haul things around say every 6 months, you can rent a cheap truck from Home Depot to do the job. Likewise, if you go on Long distance trips once a year and can rent a car for that week, for the next 2 years, then something like the Model S is perfect (the leaf is not; takes WAY too long to charge and too small of distance).
BUT, if you want a general purpose single car family, then the leaf is likely not it. And the Model S means that you can easily afford multiple cars.
Actually, little of it comes from China. Batteries are currently from Japan. The electronics are from taiwain. And most of the rest is American. OTOH, I am willing to bet that less than 60% of this caddi is from America.
The simple fact is, that there is NOTHING out there that competes against Tesla. And if it did, it would have to costs over 200K. The reason is that Tesla holds the majority of useful patents for the ability to produce a decent electric car.
No. Caddy HAD a good reputation. At this time, the Model S takes on top-end caddies as well as this POS. I suspect that there will be fewer of these cars sold than of the volt. The volt actually has some redeeming value in being low costs. But not the caddy.
The fact is, that GM and other car companies are desperate to buy some time and push a fuel cell that uses nat gas, either directly or indirectly (for hydrogen). By the time that these companies have something worthwhile on fuel cells, Tesla, Nissan, and probably Chinese car companies, will be monster companies competing against them with real electric cars that have ultra-caps.
very little change.
The fact is, that many ppl will drive horrible and have no accidents. BUT, they will cause them. I have witnessed my mother get onto the dan ryan back when highways were doing 100 mph, and she would enter at 40. I have wondered not if, but how many accidents, she caused by having large numbers of car hitting their brakes.
And things have gotten worse, esp because we think that cell phones should be legal, but not texting. I would almost rather have more drunks on the road than a cell phone user.
There, I fixed that for you. If you think that only American companies are spying for their govs. then you are total idiot. EVERY gov. has spying going on, due to AQ and other issues. The ONLY place that does not have guaranteed spying, is Antarctica, and to be fair, with China having a base, I would guess that they spying going on as well.
They should put this in Antarctica for a time during the winter. Mars will get much colder than Antarctica, so, it is at least better than Chile's desert.
I worked for ATT when Bell Labs was spun off as Lucent by Fiorina (worse CEO that an American company can have). Lucent was loaded with bright ppl and great technology. If Google can buy the patents, it will make sense for them to buy Lucent.
I agree. And the best way to make use of it, is to get the price lower. By moving our transportation to electric/Nat. Gas, the nat gas gives us time to get 100% of our transportation to electricity. In the meantime, oil becomes cheap for manufacturing with.:)
No, but, if America will actually push hard to move our vehicles to electric and nat. gas, we can become energy independent. The problem is that oil companies do not want this. They make money in differentials, not in the actual costs.
LOL. I would agree with that about NEW technology. However mPower is not new. It is based on the nuke reactors that are inside of the US navy. So, these reactors are in great shape on this.
All e-coli that are used for genetic experiments are heavily modified. In particular, they lack a number of pathways that requires supplements, or they die.
The new B&W mPower will be a fraction of the price of a new GE 1GW system, in terms of $/MW. The reason is that GE's reactors are built in place like a home. B&W's is being built in a factory and shipped to the site. Basically, from the time of approval, an mPower will take only 3-4 years to build up. And to add new reactors will take less than 2 years. These are small doing only 180 MWe, so, it would take about 6 of these to equal a new GE/Westinghouse reactor. In addition, these use air cooling as opposed to expensive water cooling. Add to that a passive safety, and these are pretty good.
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South America. These are basically the same cells that go inside our laptops, but without the normal cell electronics .
Tesla HAS offered up to license out the patents. Nobody wants to pay the price. As such, Toyota's rav 4 uses old roadster technology for their batteries and charger. That is why the rav 4 can not make use of the superchargers. And Daimler worked with Tesla for a time, but again, they did not want to pay the high price for licensing their tech. Instead, they want to push fuel cells and hope that they can convince many other nations, including America, to install loads of hydrogen stations. Considering that America has less than 12 stations currently, and only in 3 places, that is not likely to happen here. The only place that has any number of hydrogen stations are Germany and Japan.
But, All of the decent electric patents dealing with electrical cars, are owned by Telsa. Yes, GM, made some patents in the 1980's/1990's. They are ALL expiring. And China forced GM to turn over those patents to them. Ford, Chrysler, Daimler, Audi, VW, Toyota, etc have nothing worthwhile. Nissan does have some as well, but again, nothing of consequence.
Nissan is not a monster car company?
It is less than 1/2 of the size of any of the top 3, so no.
BUT, if they can push electric fast with multiple new models next year, they can vastly increase their size quickly.
And you are kidding yourself. Lots of money is going into R&D on both batteries and ultra-caps. However, the DOD needs ultra-caps and LOTS of them. As such, we have a lot more money going into this than anybody realizes. And it will be the USN and USAF that will buy the first major rounds of these, once we get a decent formula, and drop the prices quickly.
I am not a fan of parallel hybrids esp. in small cars (I am fan of serial hybrids for large vehicles). BUT, for getting going, the volt is not a bad first start. Sadly, GM is doing that because they really do not want to go with pure electrics. They want fuel cells, which are nat. gas based, either directly or indirectly. Sad.
If you only have the resources to own a single vehicle, you're not the target market for ANY all electric.
Not entirely accurate, but close. The truth is, that there are plenty of ppl that do not carry plywood, etc. Likewise, a number of these ppl live in a city or a close suburb. For them, a SMALL electric like the leaf, or the Model E when it comes, is perfect.
In addition, if only haul things around say every 6 months, you can rent a cheap truck from Home Depot to do the job. Likewise, if you go on Long distance trips once a year and can rent a car for that week, for the next 2 years, then something like the Model S is perfect (the leaf is not; takes WAY too long to charge and too small of distance).
BUT, if you want a general purpose single car family, then the leaf is likely not it. And the Model S means that you can easily afford multiple cars.
Actually, little of it comes from China. Batteries are currently from Japan. The electronics are from taiwain. And most of the rest is American. OTOH, I am willing to bet that less than 60% of this caddi is from America.
The simple fact is, that there is NOTHING out there that competes against Tesla. And if it did, it would have to costs over 200K. The reason is that Tesla holds the majority of useful patents for the ability to produce a decent electric car.
No. Caddy HAD a good reputation. At this time, the Model S takes on top-end caddies as well as this POS. I suspect that there will be fewer of these cars sold than of the volt. The volt actually has some redeeming value in being low costs. But not the caddy.
The fact is, that GM and other car companies are desperate to buy some time and push a fuel cell that uses nat gas, either directly or indirectly (for hydrogen). By the time that these companies have something worthwhile on fuel cells, Tesla, Nissan, and probably Chinese car companies, will be monster companies competing against them with real electric cars that have ultra-caps.
very little change.
The fact is, that many ppl will drive horrible and have no accidents. BUT, they will cause them. I have witnessed my mother get onto the dan ryan back when highways were doing 100 mph, and she would enter at 40. I have wondered not if, but how many accidents, she caused by having large numbers of car hitting their brakes.
And things have gotten worse, esp because we think that cell phones should be legal, but not texting. I would almost rather have more drunks on the road than a cell phone user.
And if never dawned on you that the person is NOT an English speaker? Why do you pricks come here to grip about little things? Focus on the message.
Which is why Google's program has numerous trucks on the road today, with ppl behind the wheel, making sure that it works.
Would you trust _any_ company not to do that?
There, I fixed that for you. If you think that only American companies are spying for their govs. then you are total idiot. EVERY gov. has spying going on, due to AQ and other issues. The ONLY place that does not have guaranteed spying, is Antarctica, and to be fair, with China having a base, I would guess that they spying going on as well.
I remain a big fan of new nuclear power with passive safety. However, the old plants need a SHIT load of baby sitting. This is not a good thing.
They should put this in Antarctica for a time during the winter. Mars will get much colder than Antarctica, so, it is at least better than Chile's desert.
I worked for ATT when Bell Labs was spun off as Lucent by Fiorina (worse CEO that an American company can have). Lucent was loaded with bright ppl and great technology. If Google can buy the patents, it will make sense for them to buy Lucent.
I agree. And the best way to make use of it, is to get the price lower. By moving our transportation to electric/Nat. Gas, the nat gas gives us time to get 100% of our transportation to electricity. In the meantime, oil becomes cheap for manufacturing with. :)
No, but, if America will actually push hard to move our vehicles to electric and nat. gas, we can become energy independent. The problem is that oil companies do not want this. They make money in differentials, not in the actual costs.
America and Canada need to work together to get our vehicles switched over to electric and nat. gas. If we do this, then we can export even more oil.
just put it in the ground. Issue solved.
Such losers.
LOL. I would agree with that about NEW technology. However mPower is not new. It is based on the nuke reactors that are inside of the US navy. So, these reactors are in great shape on this.
Thorium, might be a bit different of an issue.
All e-coli that are used for genetic experiments are heavily modified. In particular, they lack a number of pathways that requires supplements, or they die.
The new B&W mPower will be a fraction of the price of a new GE 1GW system, in terms of $/MW. The reason is that GE's reactors are built in place like a home. B&W's is being built in a factory and shipped to the site. Basically, from the time of approval, an mPower will take only 3-4 years to build up. And to add new reactors will take less than 2 years. These are small doing only 180 MWe, so, it would take about 6 of these to equal a new GE/Westinghouse reactor. In addition, these use air cooling as opposed to expensive water cooling. Add to that a passive safety, and these are pretty good.