The one morally bankrupt are those who are busy putting down others while remaining anonymous. True coward.
In addition, with him putting out information that is NOT illegal for any nation to do, but that is of value to enemies, says that he is a traitor. The fact that he is now using this information as a way to blackmail his nation, speaks of even lower morals than yours.
Sorry, but I am not a believer in the death penality SAVE for treason or turning on your nation. As such, Snowden should be executed.
And you obviously have no idea about data, the net, or anything else that you talk about.
Simply put, manning and snowden are traitors. Snowden is proving that he is much worse than is manning. He has just now, told AQ, again, how the west detects them. He is continuing this over and over and over.
I have been against interfering with Snowden and thought that we should just let him be in Russia.
But at this time, if he suddenly dies, and all the data is grabbed, I am fine with that.
There are plenty of solutions, such as distillation. And most likely, all of them are cheaper than having a number of these elements passed into the food chain.
Getting this out of the water is not that hard. You just have to process it, but that tends to be slow. That is why they would be wise to start doing it now as quickly as possible. Always better to turn bad lemons into lemonaide then to just cry about it.
So, you prefer that Japan allow this St-90 to continue to leak out into the ocean?
I think that I prefer keeping it out of the food chain and turning it into something useful.
A lot of these isotopes are being shunted aside and stored (from which they are leaking), are useful ones. In particular, st-90 is a beta- and can be used to create long-lived batteries (20-50 years) without worrying about mechanical issues. These are ideal for putting on rovers on the moon/mars. Basically, a company should be filtering that water quickly and getting all of those isotopes out for use.
Seriously, USA was not just the start of recycling, but owned it. Now, because of the cheap labor of china, combined with cheap labor of illegals, we have allowed ourselves to lose out. It is time to restart home-grown recycling, but then add new demand for it. This is easier to do than it looks.
Gut Bacteria. You will notice that it occurs in Locations and then it happens by those with contact with humans. All in all, that indicates a single source, rather than 'everything'.
These banks run the crappiest OS and security systems. Then when they are cracked, they do not want it known who they are, BUT, we taxpayers will be on the hook for these idiots that refused to run secured systems.
You would think that at this time, that they would be smart enough to limit the internet's transactions, to being slower than what it takes to process the security issues.
IMHO, Manning and Snowden deserve the death penalty for treason and aiding/abetting. BUT, they are Americans pledged to not do what they did.
Assange is not American, and never took an oath to protect American, or even western, or Australian secrets. As such, the WORST thing that can be said is that he was a fence of stolen goods (he was/is NOT part of the press). But for all of the attempts by the west to get him is just plain WRONG. We have no business blocking him from going to Ecuador. He should go to Sweden to stand trial for his crimes and then be allowed to go to Ecuador.
Snowden told how we spy on other nations to get to terrorists. The other nation's Intel worlds AND leaders KNEW that we did this ( and the rest of 5i along with germany and france, spy on USA citizens). We used that information to stop multiple attacks in EU. Now, not only are we stopping helping Germany, France, etc, BUT they will also slow down Intel to the rest of the west. We just told AQ and Chinese spies to have at the west. that is treason by snowden. Manning also did the same.
Yeah, the situation with assange bothers me. He is an Aussie. He did not take an oath to protect american/western secrets. America has NO rights to go after him. Now, Sweden is a different issue. We really do not know what happened so that is for Sweden and assange to sort out. But USA should not be interfering in this.
Some of what he released was crimes by soldiers, and they SHOULD be punished. This would be considered acts of whistleblowing.
However, Manning, like snowden, went much further, and released information that was NOT illegal by our nation's laws and certainly not outside of the norms that other nations do. As such, those parts became treason. Again, this is just like Snowden.
Look, if I somebody is robbing a store and I stop them, that is good. OTOH, if I stop them, and they leave, and then I rob the store, then I am guilty. IOW, one part was good, but one part was illegal. Manning and Snowden did BOTH. And for the information that Manning and Snowden have released to the enemies of the west, has caused a lot of damage.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
Lets see. Did he give them aid by releasing all sorts of information that used to recruit other muslims to be terrorists? Yup.
Was that information used against America to back attacks on America? Yup.
Did multiple witnesses say that he did in fact do this act? Yup.
Did he do a confession in open court? I do not recall, but I do not think so.
However, he (and snowden) fit the definition 100%.
Oh, I agree with you. I dislike those 4 actually. Most of W's admin, including W, should have gone to prison for their many crimes. However, what manning released had nothing to do with that. And much of what manning released was not illegal on USA's part, but caused major issues elsewhere, including with ppl dying.
Sigh. He gave out information indiscriminately. Had it been about a specific issue that was illegal/immoral, than he would be a whistleblower. BUT, that was not what he did, nor was it his intention. He simply wanted to harm America.
Manning is no different than Snowden in this regard.
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You have loads of fools around here. This is just another one.
Actually, we think that the original poster is the one without a sense of humor.
The one morally bankrupt are those who are busy putting down others while remaining anonymous. True coward.
In addition, with him putting out information that is NOT illegal for any nation to do, but that is of value to enemies, says that he is a traitor. The fact that he is now using this information as a way to blackmail his nation, speaks of even lower morals than yours.
Sorry, but I am not a believer in the death penality SAVE for treason or turning on your nation. As such, Snowden should be executed.
And you obviously have no idea about data, the net, or anything else that you talk about.
Simply put, manning and snowden are traitors. Snowden is proving that he is much worse than is manning. He has just now, told AQ, again, how the west detects them. He is continuing this over and over and over.
I have been against interfering with Snowden and thought that we should just let him be in Russia. But at this time, if he suddenly dies, and all the data is grabbed, I am fine with that.
There are plenty of solutions, such as distillation. And most likely, all of them are cheaper than having a number of these elements passed into the food chain.
Time for jeopardy:
What is de-ionized water?
There is reverse osmosis, distillation, etc.
Getting this out of the water is not that hard. You just have to process it, but that tends to be slow. That is why they would be wise to start doing it now as quickly as possible. Always better to turn bad lemons into lemonaide then to just cry about it.
Well, I suggest you don't eat his strontium 90 batteries then, if that's how you feel about it.
LOL. Yeah, between the st-90 and the lead casing, but you never know.
So, you prefer that Japan allow this St-90 to continue to leak out into the ocean?
I think that I prefer keeping it out of the food chain and turning it into something useful.
Yes, it would have. Still can stop FUTURE issues. The question is, will we? Or will be stupid and scared.
So, do you have your rope handy and a tree picked out as well?
yeah, this is quite a bit more like Leviathan and Tri-Oceanic Corp.
A lot of these isotopes are being shunted aside and stored (from which they are leaking), are useful ones. In particular, st-90 is a beta- and can be used to create long-lived batteries (20-50 years) without worrying about mechanical issues. These are ideal for putting on rovers on the moon/mars. Basically, a company should be filtering that water quickly and getting all of those isotopes out for use.
Seriously, USA was not just the start of recycling, but owned it. Now, because of the cheap labor of china, combined with cheap labor of illegals, we have allowed ourselves to lose out. It is time to restart home-grown recycling, but then add new demand for it. This is easier to do than it looks.
Show us where they say that.
nah. We can just allow more illegals up here.
Gut Bacteria. You will notice that it occurs in Locations and then it happens by those with contact with humans. All in all, that indicates a single source, rather than 'everything'.
These banks run the crappiest OS and security systems. Then when they are cracked, they do not want it known who they are, BUT, we taxpayers will be on the hook for these idiots that refused to run secured systems.
You would think that at this time, that they would be smart enough to limit the internet's transactions, to being slower than what it takes to process the security issues.
IMHO, Manning and Snowden deserve the death penalty for treason and aiding/abetting. BUT, they are Americans pledged to not do what they did.
Assange is not American, and never took an oath to protect American, or even western, or Australian secrets. As such, the WORST thing that can be said is that he was a fence of stolen goods (he was/is NOT part of the press). But for all of the attempts by the west to get him is just plain WRONG. We have no business blocking him from going to Ecuador. He should go to Sweden to stand trial for his crimes and then be allowed to go to Ecuador.
let's hope so. However, much of these issues are normally tied to lack of funding. And I do not see CONgress learning from it.
Snowden told how we spy on other nations to get to terrorists. The other nation's Intel worlds AND leaders KNEW that we did this ( and the rest of 5i along with germany and france, spy on USA citizens). We used that information to stop multiple attacks in EU. Now, not only are we stopping helping Germany, France, etc, BUT they will also slow down Intel to the rest of the west. We just told AQ and Chinese spies to have at the west.
that is treason by snowden. Manning also did the same.
Yeah, the situation with assange bothers me. He is an Aussie. He did not take an oath to protect american/western secrets. America has NO rights to go after him. Now, Sweden is a different issue. We really do not know what happened so that is for Sweden and assange to sort out. But USA should not be interfering in this.
Some of what he released was crimes by soldiers, and they SHOULD be punished. This would be considered acts of whistleblowing.
However, Manning, like snowden, went much further, and released information that was NOT illegal by our nation's laws and certainly not outside of the norms that other nations do. As such, those parts became treason. Again, this is just like Snowden.
Look, if I somebody is robbing a store and I stop them, that is good. OTOH, if I stop them, and they leave, and then I rob the store, then I am guilty. IOW, one part was good, but one part was illegal. Manning and Snowden did BOTH. And for the information that Manning and Snowden have released to the enemies of the west, has caused a lot of damage.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
Lets see. Did he give them aid by releasing all sorts of information that used to recruit other muslims to be terrorists? Yup.
Was that information used against America to back attacks on America? Yup.
Did multiple witnesses say that he did in fact do this act? Yup.
Did he do a confession in open court? I do not recall, but I do not think so.
However, he (and snowden) fit the definition 100%.
Oh, I agree with you. I dislike those 4 actually. Most of W's admin, including W, should have gone to prison for their many crimes. However, what manning released had nothing to do with that. And much of what manning released was not illegal on USA's part, but caused major issues elsewhere, including with ppl dying.
Sigh. He gave out information indiscriminately. Had it been about a specific issue that was illegal/immoral, than he would be a whistleblower. BUT, that was not what he did, nor was it his intention. He simply wanted to harm America.
Manning is no different than Snowden in this regard.