Well, I am one of those who worked on the US PATRIOT act, so I am well aware of the situation. I also know that the dems have not liked this situation. In fact, too much so. They went along with because they had no choice.
Considering that China has loads of spies all over the west, is building a military at the fastest rate ever seen on this planet (faster than what USA did pre-WWII), has been shown to have 3K miles of tunnels along with a new nuclear warhead production site, and China working hard to keep ANY information from flowing out, it is important that the west understand what they are up to. Otherwise, things will end badly for all of us.
Well, as soon as he steps foot in a nation where we can simply grab him, we will. The truth is, that he is traitor. He became one when started talking about our operations on other nations/spies/terrorists.
However, the idea that we can or should punish other nations for giving him sanctuary is just plain twisted. That committee is absolutely drunk on power.
First off, it is NOT the senate. It is one subcommittee. However, it is republican heavy and I think that they have just lost their minds.
For us to threaten any nations out here like this over this situation is just crazy.
BTW, I differ with you. Snowden is a disaster and has severely crippled the west's capability to understand what AQ, taliban, Syria, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, and even China are up to. As such, with less understanding on each side, you are far more likely to go to war.
Snowden is gone. We should just SHUT UP and allow him to run around for a while. At some point, he will want to come back to the west. We can capture him then. However, if we act this nuts threatening all other nations, then at some point, a Russian or Chinese will run and they will want him back.
This is about as insane as the issue with assanage. The guy is NOT an American, nor did he swear allegience to our nation or to not reveal secrets. As such, we have NO rights to Assanage. To go after him like this is just plain foolish.
You have to be kidding me. First off, Gates is not connected with the polio vaccination program EXCEPT just recently when WHO, CDC, Rotary club, etc deserve nearly 100% of the credit for taking this out. It is DISGUSTING to me that you are SO ignorant as to think that gates had any major part, let alone any real minor role with polio. It shows that you buy into his Bull Shit that he markets all over.
And as to Malaria, I have several issues here.:
1) the new approach is to destroy the lowly mosquito. However, it was theorized long ago that inter-species virus are the true source of our evolution, and as such, mosquitoes are the most important carriers for these. So, now, this guy in his first real 'charity' is to possibly destroy our evolutionary source. I am NOT impressed.
2) Now, ignoring the above, lets say that we save these ppl. Then what? Most of these ppl are in Africa. They are under constant poverty. If we lift them out, then we subject them to horrible economic conditions with massive pressures on natural resources which will get worse. Now, you are going add a multiplier to the population and think that nothing will happen?
What is needed is NOT to solve malaria right up front. Instead, it is far better to get economic trade going and help these ppl out of poverty while at the same time, spending SOME money on the Malaria treatment. If the money that is going to solving this went to helping their economies, it would do far far more for them.
I have been saying that they should move all the door-to-door to cluster boxes. It is crazy that we continued door-to-door when the USPS is having issues. I will say that they should continue to mail-box routes if they are in the country. Basically, I do not think that we have that is a huge part of their costs. IOW, it is expensive, but far far fewer of them and with separation, it actually is better to have one vehicle do this than to have multiple vehicles come in for mail. Perhaps switch that to every other day if they want to save a few bucks.
Which is actually STUPID.
Instead, it should go into creating new companies like SpaceX, Tesla, Solar City, and even hyperloop.
Had gates done something like Musk and Allen are doing, then he would have made great changes to the world.
Is he going to take the technology to China and build there, or will it be kept here?
BUT, if he does the right thing, he will FINALLY have done something decent.
Roll back the law that reagan rescinded.
Require that executives not be allowed to have any publicly traded stock in the industry, esp. in that company.
Likewise, they are not allowed to have stock in competitors.
The same thing that is killing USA's Auto companies (save tesla), Boeing, and hollywood, is that MBA's now run things.
Hollywood USED to be about making the best ART. Now, with the MBA's, it is about making short-term profit.
Likewise, Boeing used to make the best aircrafts (in both military AND commercial). The 787 is all about making short-term profit (in the same way that GE does).
Then US car companies, GM and Ford, used to be about making the best car possible. Now, it is about making short-term profits.
If we really want to restore America, we need to roll back the changes that reagan did. In particular, we need to require that executives NOT own any of the publicly-traded stock in that industry.
Seriously. You have a problem in which our power plants make heavy use of cooling. IOW, it has to dump that 'waste' heat somewhere. Yet, it is only 'waste' in the same sense that 'spent' fuel is stored at nuke plants.
That heat can either heat buildings, OR COOL them. What is needed is to simply pipe the heat to larger buildings and For the most part, most of our power plants are located close to businesses. With this being used to heat/cool buildings, it becomes a nice way to 'dump' that heat.
Actually, it was NOT right for him to tell that we were spying on other nations. That is treason. What is whistle blowing is speaking about spying on Americans, and showing proof that it occurred.
No, it has to do with his describing how we do things.
Look, I have no doubt that BOTH china and Russia have copied the disk drives, and without his know it either.
BUT, the real treason was not just when he stole drives, but when he speaks about how we do these things.
Right there, that is treason. He was not talking about spying on Americans. He was talking about how the NSA does its job. I can not stand MS. They are a very corrupt and inept company. However, they were doing the right things and will burn for it.
Snowden is a traitor in every sense of the word.
When he spoke about spying on Americans, he was a whistle blower. Had he been smart, he would have stopped right there.
Sadly, that idiot carried it into treason and has not only harmed America's interest, but his own: his life.
Snowden will never ever have a normal life. More importantly, no nation will trust a man that is such a traitor. Sure, they will USE him for a time, but he will not be allowed into any place in which he could damage that nation. And within 20 years, he will want to come back to the west, and will be willing to do his time.
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Well, I am one of those who worked on the US PATRIOT act, so I am well aware of the situation. I also know that the dems have not liked this situation. In fact, too much so. They went along with because they had no choice.
And yet, our nation will capture him once he steps foot in the west.
Sadly, you ACs are the ugly ones.
None of those groups know HOW we spied on them. Snowden told them. Now, they know how to avoid it. That is esp. true of AQ/Taliban, and China.
Considering that China has loads of spies all over the west, is building a military at the fastest rate ever seen on this planet (faster than what USA did pre-WWII), has been shown to have 3K miles of tunnels along with a new nuclear warhead production site, and China working hard to keep ANY information from flowing out, it is important that the west understand what they are up to. Otherwise, things will end badly for all of us.
Well, as soon as he steps foot in a nation where we can simply grab him, we will. The truth is, that he is traitor. He became one when started talking about our operations on other nations/spies/terrorists.
However, the idea that we can or should punish other nations for giving him sanctuary is just plain twisted. That committee is absolutely drunk on power.
Quite the opposite. It would allow us to re-build our economy, not destroy it.
First off, it is NOT the senate. It is one subcommittee. However, it is republican heavy and I think that they have just lost their minds.
For us to threaten any nations out here like this over this situation is just crazy.
BTW, I differ with you. Snowden is a disaster and has severely crippled the west's capability to understand what AQ, taliban, Syria, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, and even China are up to. As such, with less understanding on each side, you are far more likely to go to war.
You missed the US house. They are worse.
Normally, I would differ with such a post. But god, we have become INSANE.
the dems have joined them.
Snowden is gone. We should just SHUT UP and allow him to run around for a while. At some point, he will want to come back to the west. We can capture him then. However, if we act this nuts threatening all other nations, then at some point, a Russian or Chinese will run and they will want him back.
This is about as insane as the issue with assanage. The guy is NOT an American, nor did he swear allegience to our nation or to not reveal secrets. As such, we have NO rights to Assanage. To go after him like this is just plain foolish.
You have to be kidding me. First off, Gates is not connected with the polio vaccination program EXCEPT just recently when WHO, CDC, Rotary club, etc deserve nearly 100% of the credit for taking this out. It is DISGUSTING to me that you are SO ignorant as to think that gates had any major part, let alone any real minor role with polio. It shows that you buy into his Bull Shit that he markets all over.
And as to Malaria, I have several issues here.:
1) the new approach is to destroy the lowly mosquito. However, it was theorized long ago that inter-species virus are the true source of our evolution, and as such, mosquitoes are the most important carriers for these. So, now, this guy in his first real 'charity' is to possibly destroy our evolutionary source. I am NOT impressed.
2) Now, ignoring the above, lets say that we save these ppl. Then what? Most of these ppl are in Africa. They are under constant poverty. If we lift them out, then we subject them to horrible economic conditions with massive pressures on natural resources which will get worse. Now, you are going add a multiplier to the population and think that nothing will happen?
What is needed is NOT to solve malaria right up front. Instead, it is far better to get economic trade going and help these ppl out of poverty while at the same time, spending SOME money on the Malaria treatment. If the money that is going to solving this went to helping their economies, it would do far far more for them.
I have been saying that they should move all the door-to-door to cluster boxes. It is crazy that we continued door-to-door when the USPS is having issues. I will say that they should continue to mail-box routes if they are in the country. Basically, I do not think that we have that is a huge part of their costs. IOW, it is expensive, but far far fewer of them and with separation, it actually is better to have one vehicle do this than to have multiple vehicles come in for mail. Perhaps switch that to every other day if they want to save a few bucks.
Which is actually STUPID.
Instead, it should go into creating new companies like SpaceX, Tesla, Solar City, and even hyperloop.
Had gates done something like Musk and Allen are doing, then he would have made great changes to the world.
Is he going to take the technology to China and build there, or will it be kept here?
BUT, if he does the right thing, he will FINALLY have done something decent.
Roll back the law that reagan rescinded.
Require that executives not be allowed to have any publicly traded stock in the industry, esp. in that company.
Likewise, they are not allowed to have stock in competitors.
The same thing that is killing USA's Auto companies (save tesla), Boeing, and hollywood, is that MBA's now run things.
Hollywood USED to be about making the best ART. Now, with the MBA's, it is about making short-term profit.
Likewise, Boeing used to make the best aircrafts (in both military AND commercial). The 787 is all about making short-term profit (in the same way that GE does).
Then US car companies, GM and Ford, used to be about making the best car possible. Now, it is about making short-term profits.
If we really want to restore America, we need to roll back the changes that reagan did. In particular, we need to require that executives NOT own any of the publicly-traded stock in that industry.
Yeah, it worked for Germany with Russia and Britain in the early 30's.
What do you mean? Bush is gone now and can no longer push the button.
Can not even come close. China burns almost 4x as much coal as the USA does, and it is growing fast for China while shrinking for America.
Fewer ppl? Oh, that is why we have so many wars going on around the world.
Seriously. You have a problem in which our power plants make heavy use of cooling. IOW, it has to dump that 'waste' heat somewhere. Yet, it is only 'waste' in the same sense that 'spent' fuel is stored at nuke plants.
That heat can either heat buildings, OR COOL them. What is needed is to simply pipe the heat to larger buildings and For the most part, most of our power plants are located close to businesses. With this being used to heat/cool buildings, it becomes a nice way to 'dump' that heat.
Actually, it was NOT right for him to tell that we were spying on other nations. That is treason. What is whistle blowing is speaking about spying on Americans, and showing proof that it occurred.
No, it has to do with his describing how we do things.
Look, I have no doubt that BOTH china and Russia have copied the disk drives, and without his know it either.
BUT, the real treason was not just when he stole drives, but when he speaks about how we do these things.
Microsoft has collaborated closely with US intelligence services to allow users' communications to be intercepted, including helping the National Security Agency to circumvent the company's own encryption, according to top-secret documents obtained by the Guardian. The files provided by Edward Snowden illustrate the scale of co-operation between Silicon Valley and the intelligence agencies over the last three years. They also shed new light on the workings of the top-secret Prism program, which was disclosed by the Guardian and the Washington Post last month.
Right there, that is treason. He was not talking about spying on Americans. He was talking about how the NSA does its job. I can not stand MS. They are a very corrupt and inept company. However, they were doing the right things and will burn for it.
Snowden is a traitor in every sense of the word.
I have worked on a similar concept for police back in the 90's and can prove it.
When he spoke about spying on Americans, he was a whistle blower. Had he been smart, he would have stopped right there.
Sadly, that idiot carried it into treason and has not only harmed America's interest, but his own: his life.
Snowden will never ever have a normal life. More importantly, no nation will trust a man that is such a traitor. Sure, they will USE him for a time, but he will not be allowed into any place in which he could damage that nation. And within 20 years, he will want to come back to the west, and will be willing to do his time.