They already attempted national security on that.
Perry has it right that we need base-load poewr, but that does not need to include coal. Coal can be replace by hydro, geo-thermal, or nuclear. All of these are base-load capable.
Satellite imagery reveals that many coal-fired power projects that were halted by the Chinese government have quietly restarted.
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Analysis by CoalSwarm estimates that 46.7 gigawatts of new and restarted coal-fired power construction is visible based on satellite imagery supplied by Planet Labs. The coal-fired power plants are either generating power or will soon be operational. If all the plants reach completion they would increase China’s coal-fired power capacity by 4 per cent.
So, what happened?
Well, their economy is coming back, and CHina was lying about having their AE producing too much power. They are adding coal-based energy to deal with economy improving as well as moving to electric cars.
Sadly, we are going to see trolls here defending CHina on this, claiming that they are owed it. Of course, one of them claims that CHina is not a communist nation. Yeah.
First off, the last finished coal plant was over 5 years ago. And the last planned one was in 2010 (?) or sometime around then. America's CO2 continues to go down.That is not the major issue.
However, loads of ppl are defending building new coal plants for 3rd world nations. Rather than have them put in far more AE (wind, solar, hydro, geo-thermal) or nukes, China and somewhat Japan, is pushing for other nations to add their coal plants. NEW ONES, not replacements. And CHina is getting them to buy their coal. For example, they are having Pakistan add a lot of new coal plants and china will supply 100% of the coal. Stupid.
Some of CHina's new plants ARE replacements of old ones and would be great if they were limited to burning no more coal than what the old plants did. BUT, that is not the case. Not only are they bigger, they will be capable of burning 2-5x as much coal as the old ones. Basically, this is a losing idea.
well, trump is a joke. Thankfully, so far, everything that he has done to harm the environment has backfired. BUT, that is so far. I will say that he has the ability to do otherwise.
But no, paris was a joke. Why? Because all of the nations walked away from it claiming that it would work. Yet, it was obvious that it was just as bad as kyoto. Until we stop ALL NEW FOSSIL FUEL PLANTS, nothing will be accomplished.
it is not just in the west. America has not added a single coal plant in some 10 years, though we have added nat gas. This is much cleaner, but all it does is slow things down. It still has not stopped it. BUT, the real problem is that Asia, esp China, continues to ADD (not replace) MASSIVE numbers of coal plants. This needs to stop.
As to wind, the right is actually FINE with them. For example, which states have the most wind? Nearly all red. They KNOW that it is much cheaper.
Oddly, the right wing is split on solar, which is insane. BUT, I notice that they are not looking to remove the solar subsidies.
However, you are about 60% correct on nuclear. Basically, it is the far left, not just the left that fights nuclear. We are allowing a small group of idiots to control our nation. We really need to push this CURRENT gov right now, to help with nuclear (and ideally geo-thermal) power. I still think that the right way is to push for subsidy to help a 2-4 SMR based companies and several geo-thermal electricity companies, and also we need to require that all utilities have at least 2/3 of their power available through base-load systems. IOW, it can not be indeterminate energy, backed up by small amounts of batteries (though a hydro storage with at least say several days worth, might work).
Finally, I still maintain that America has the ability to get all nations on-board with a simple taxation. Sadly, we have the wrong president for it.
Actually, we CAN stop it now. We just have to quit adding fossil fuel plants, esp coal, and then add only clean ; wind, solar, hydro, Geothermal, nuke.
But that will not happen.
Paris, like Kyoto, was a joke. It did nothing to address real emissions. Until an accord is implemented that brings all nations down together, nothing will improve. things will become worse because massive numbers of coal plants are being added while idiots defend it.
oh good lord.
What do you want to do? COntinue with nat gas and coal? That is destroying nearly all species here.
And 1000's of years? Give me a break. If we fully utilitize the fuel, then it will have around 200 years and we can simply bury it.
Lot of truth to that one.
The Google boys had actually done a good job of paying attention to long term. Bringing in a CEO that pays attention to only quarterly is s horrible mistake.
Far too many trolls here will not care about facts. They will simply continue to scream that Tesla and other car companies are killing ppl, while disregarding this.
America has plenty of liberal arts students. As it is, at most universities, liberal art students have very little science, math, or even business, while the rest of degrees have plenty of liberal arts (the first is bad, the second is good).
The real problem is that far too many are taking business which really is not needed. We need more science, engineering, math, etc. Far too few in any of these.
the difference is that those R&D profs actually bring in far more money to the university than they costs. At CSU, we had multiple buildings buily bu professors that got funding not only for their own work, but for the extensions to buildings. So, no, these profs are not the issues with universities.
Not sure why you think that American universities operate like your Chinese ones. The fact is, that in America, it is the teaching profs that costs universities loads of money. They are the ones that rarely bring in enough students and no real research money, to pay for their massive salaries.
Actually, Hillary won the popular vote, and since we do not have equal representation in our election, trump won the electoral vote, which is all that matters.
Again, porky/Red Tide,
Did you suffer a nasty fall last year when you were 16? You really have reading and moral issues. All you do is LIE.
Trump could not win a majority in economical brackets, except for 50-100K. In the end, trump won by having large numbers of uneducated vote for him, in the red states
Show us the economical bracket where he won 51% or more. Here is a hint; good luck, idiot.
Im guessing that you were that AC that originally had it wrong.
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Ah yes. It was you.
they have tried it already. Turned out to be too expensive.
They already attempted national security on that.
Perry has it right that we need base-load poewr, but that does not need to include coal. Coal can be replace by hydro, geo-thermal, or nuclear. All of these are base-load capable.
In Oct, 2018, it was known that CHina would build over 700 new power plants. And that is 700, out of 1600 world-wide.
In august of 2018 (i.e. less than a month ago from when this was posted), this was posted
Satellite imagery reveals that many coal-fired power projects that were halted by the Chinese government have quietly restarted.
Analysis by CoalSwarm estimates that 46.7 gigawatts of new and restarted coal-fired power construction is visible based on satellite imagery supplied by Planet Labs. The coal-fired power plants are either generating power or will soon be operational. If all the plants reach completion they would increase China’s coal-fired power capacity by 4 per cent.
So, what happened?
Well, their economy is coming back, and CHina was lying about having their AE producing too much power. They are adding coal-based energy to deal with economy improving as well as moving to electric cars.
Sadly, we are going to see trolls here defending CHina on this, claiming that they are owed it. Of course, one of them claims that CHina is not a communist nation. Yeah.
First off, the last finished coal plant was over 5 years ago. And the last planned one was in 2010 (?) or sometime around then. America's CO2 continues to go down.That is not the major issue.
However, loads of ppl are defending building new coal plants for 3rd world nations. Rather than have them put in far more AE (wind, solar, hydro, geo-thermal) or nukes, China and somewhat Japan, is pushing for other nations to add their coal plants. NEW ONES, not replacements. And CHina is getting them to buy their coal. For example, they are having Pakistan add a lot of new coal plants and china will supply 100% of the coal. Stupid.
Some of CHina's new plants ARE replacements of old ones and would be great if they were limited to burning no more coal than what the old plants did. BUT, that is not the case. Not only are they bigger, they will be capable of burning 2-5x as much coal as the old ones. Basically, this is a losing idea.
well, trump is a joke. Thankfully, so far, everything that he has done to harm the environment has backfired. BUT, that is so far. I will say that he has the ability to do otherwise.
But no, paris was a joke. Why? Because all of the nations walked away from it claiming that it would work. Yet, it was obvious that it was just as bad as kyoto. Until we stop ALL NEW FOSSIL FUEL PLANTS, nothing will be accomplished.
it is not just in the west. America has not added a single coal plant in some 10 years, though we have added nat gas. This is much cleaner, but all it does is slow things down. It still has not stopped it. BUT, the real problem is that Asia, esp China, continues to ADD (not replace) MASSIVE numbers of coal plants. This needs to stop.
As to wind, the right is actually FINE with them. For example, which states have the most wind? Nearly all red. They KNOW that it is much cheaper.
Oddly, the right wing is split on solar, which is insane. BUT, I notice that they are not looking to remove the solar subsidies.
However, you are about 60% correct on nuclear. Basically, it is the far left, not just the left that fights nuclear. We are allowing a small group of idiots to control our nation. We really need to push this CURRENT gov right now, to help with nuclear (and ideally geo-thermal) power. I still think that the right way is to push for subsidy to help a 2-4 SMR based companies and several geo-thermal electricity companies, and also we need to require that all utilities have at least 2/3 of their power available through base-load systems. IOW, it can not be indeterminate energy, backed up by small amounts of batteries (though a hydro storage with at least say several days worth, might work).
Finally, I still maintain that America has the ability to get all nations on-board with a simple taxation. Sadly, we have the wrong president for it.
You must be caffeinated bacon/crimson tsunami.
Actually, we CAN stop it now. We just have to quit adding fossil fuel plants, esp coal, and then add only clean ; wind, solar, hydro, Geothermal, nuke. But that will not happen.
Paris, like Kyoto, was a joke. It did nothing to address real emissions. Until an accord is implemented that brings all nations down together, nothing will improve. things will become worse because massive numbers of coal plants are being added while idiots defend it.
Seriously, this is insane. The idea that tech firms should be directly involved in helping schools is a horrible mistake.
and only a bunch of idiots would base their whole economy on wind/solar, esp when they have volcanoes around.
oh good lord.
What do you want to do? COntinue with nat gas and coal? That is destroying nearly all species here.
And 1000's of years? Give me a break. If we fully utilitize the fuel, then it will have around 200 years and we can simply bury it.
If you understood what had happened, you would say that it was a good idea.
And ideally, we would put these on the Great Lakes as well.
Lot of truth to that one. The Google boys had actually done a good job of paying attention to long term. Bringing in a CEO that pays attention to only quarterly is s horrible mistake.
Actually, I did. You obviously do not know the university system, except in China.
Far too many trolls here will not care about facts. They will simply continue to scream that Tesla and other car companies are killing ppl, while disregarding this.
America has plenty of liberal arts students. As it is, at most universities, liberal art students have very little science, math, or even business, while the rest of degrees have plenty of liberal arts (the first is bad, the second is good).
The real problem is that far too many are taking business which really is not needed. We need more science, engineering, math, etc. Far too few in any of these.
the difference is that those R&D profs actually bring in far more money to the university than they costs. At CSU, we had multiple buildings buily bu professors that got funding not only for their own work, but for the extensions to buildings. So, no, these profs are not the issues with universities.
Not sure why you think that American universities operate like your Chinese ones. The fact is, that in America, it is the teaching profs that costs universities loads of money. They are the ones that rarely bring in enough students and no real research money, to pay for their massive salaries.
well, is your phone blocked there, or do you use your red linux there?
Long term, he is killing Google.
Seriously, it is long past time to fire him.
Actually, Hillary won the popular vote, and since we do not have equal representation in our election, trump won the electoral vote, which is all that matters.
Did you suffer a nasty fall last year when you were 16? You really have reading and moral issues. All you do is LIE.
Trump could not win a majority in economical brackets, except for 50-100K. In the end, trump won by having large numbers of uneducated vote for him, in the red states
Show us the economical bracket where he won 51% or more. Here is a hint; good luck, idiot.
Im guessing that you were that AC that originally had it wrong.
Trump could not win a majority in economical brackets, except for 50-100K. In the end, trump won by having large numbers of uneducated vote for him, in the red states.
Hopefully, lessig's lawsuit on representation, to SCOTUS, will be seen and won.