Im curious. SpaceX has gotten space going again. It has been doing NOTHING since Apollo. Now, we are really looking at deep space (hopefully LOP-G dies), WRT the moon and mars. More importantly, we are looking SERIOUSLY since it is now economically possible. The BFR should make it easy enough to conqueror the moon quickly, and mars over a decade or two.
So, with that being there, and expanding the space economy, why do you want to see SX die?
huh?. Really?
Russia and Europe fully fund all of their launch vehicles.
ULA gets 1B / year subsidy for nothing
Boeing and L-mart are jokes when it comes to their cost+. They are as inefficient as China, Russia AND Europe.
SpaceX got.3B for building out F9/dragon. NASA has saved well over that amount already. The DOD even more so.
SX has/is getting some 2B for dragon v2 (along with another 1B for 6 launches to ISS). It remains to be seen how long it will take, if at all, to get this to pay back. Even if it does not pay back, then the 3B to SX and 5B to Boeing will provide redundancy so that HSF is never lost again.
Uh, I think that YOU are the one that does not understand.
SX KNOWS that they need loads of launches. That is why BFR is not just devoted to mars solely. It would make the BFR as pricey as SLS or Ariane 5. Instead, they are building new markets. Markets that Russia OR Europe could be building.
1) launches between continents. Considering how fast and relatively cheap these launches are, it will mean that some business ppl will use it, but the military is also looking into this now. The ability to send first strike back-up in a manner of hours is a huge deal.
2) launches of LARGE sats. Hubble comes to mind. So, does other telescope. The ability to put up Starlink with only 33 launches is huge. In addition, it could launch MULTIPLE BA-2100s and set up a real space station in orbit. All for relatively low prices.
3) Going to the moon. This is huge. If they can go to the moon with a craft every month at first, followed by weekly, then it means that the lunar base is a trivial matter. It will happen quickly and cheaply.
4) going to mars and other parts of the solar system.
All of these will require constant building of new vehicles. Not just the carriers, but the launchers as well. For example, Mars and moon would ideally have these on them as well. Come up to orbit, mate with carrier, then land. Europe pulling back from launch vehicle is a mistake. Hopefully, they will push to get axiom up there and vetted on the ISS. At the least, they should help get lunar exploration going. Axiom with a tug would be a great way to go to the moon.
Actually, they have already learned all they need from F9/FH for the BFR.
BFR is 1 stage, with an upper load that is part stage/part carrier. IOW, like the shuttle. As such, they will be landing BOTH stage 1 and the carrier similar to how F9's stage 1 lands.
There will be no fairing. At least at this moment, there will not be. Instead, it would just be the cargo version of the carrier.
totally agree.
The best thing that can happen is for these launches to get boring because it is the same thing over and over.
Right now, SX has really only a couple of interesting launches coming up. I want to watch the FH, as well as Dragon V2.
FH really needs to launch at least 3x before it starts to be boring. And V2 is very important to getting ISS and new space going.
After these, the next interesting thing might be the lunar launches, but I would say BFR is far more interesting. And BO's new Glenn does not happen until 2020/1.
And you continue to lie and pretend to be falsely moral.
If you were truely worried about per capitia emissions, then America would not matter. Hell, we are around 14 tonnes / person AND DROPPING, while You are now over 9 tonnes / person and continuing to rise. But, more importantly, you would go after the other nations that are MUCH higher than America. Some of them are up as high as 38 tonnes / person. I do not see you as gripping about that.
Basically, you are a rasicst pig who thinks that by going after one nation, then CHina can skip being responsible for their actions. Yet, according to OCO2, it appears that CHina is in the range of 45-55% of all emissions. Once OCO3 goes up, then your nation will have a hard time lying about what you really consume.
only fucking idiots like you, think that per person is the only useful measure. As it is, it is about the WORST one, since ppl do NOT decide. Businesses and GOvs make the choices that matter. Emissions / $ GDP is far far more useful.
Hell, my family has lower emissions than most Indians. We are on par with Sweden, switizerland, etc. Yet, that does not make an impact in America. Why not? Because the businesses decided to put in coal plants 20-30 years ago. These are closing down (America has gone from 65% coal down to 29% coal over the last 10 years), but they are being replaced by Wind, Solar, AND nat gas. While nat gas is far far cleaner than any of the best coal plants, it is still an emitter. We need nukes to replace nat gas, and soon.
it does not matter. You are destroying the planet. You emit close to 1/2 of the CO2 in the world, and with only 1/6 of the population. You can gripe about Americans all you want, but with CHinese over 9 tonnes / person, you emit a great deal more than what America does at 14 tonnes / person, and a population much smaller.
As it is porky/red tide, if you REALLY were concerned about per person, then America would not even hold a candle. We are between 11-14, so we are down there.
In terms of emission per $ GDP, well, you nation just sux. You are one of the WORST, and continue to be so. Yet, you do not grip about that comrade.
Lets see.
Led lighting.
Electric powertools (i.e. mower, trimmer, etc are all electric).
We have a 10KW solar system on our house. We generate more than we use
We drive a tesla.
I added extra insulation to the house.
We put in Aerogel based windows in several northern exposures (others did not need it).
We will be buying both geo-thermal HVAC upon losing our AC or Furnace.
And when powerwall comes, we will pick up 2 of those. To be honest, with electricity at.04/nighttime kwh and.18/daytime kwh, we can not afford to NOT buy these.
I would say that my family is doing more than our part.
But ignore that. America, like Europe, has 1 real weakness, which is transportation. Right now, both Europe's and America's transportation emissions have gone up. Europe's because they have bought 10 years worth of diesel cars that were cheating. So, Europe's calculations for transportation emissions are showing low (which explains why OCO2 shows issues with Europe's reported numbers and what it sees; OCO2 can see that there is MORE CO2 in Europe and much more esp. in China, than what is being reported; just can not tell us how much. ). America's transportation emissions have gone up and Trump's recent action may be the first one that will actually make things worse. The one good news for America is that Tesla is coming on strong and will likely destroy a number of ICE car sales. If this really happens, then it will force all car makers to switch to EVs, which will really drop America's emissions again. As it is, America is in the tops for adding AE PER CAPITA. IOW, we add a LOT more AE than China relative to the population, which is why electricity emissions continue to drop faster than China's and parts of Europe.
While you and I agree about nuclear, yucca's blockage is NOT from Dems, but from GOP. In particular, from the Nevada citizens, who are mostly GOP. With that said, I'm opposed to using yucca yet. Plenty of fuel left in that waste. We need to use up a lot more before burying it.
The problem is that every politician wants the other nations to do the work. This is why I continue to say skip carbon taxes. Instead, tax all goods/services based on.where the worst part/service , in terms of CO2, comes from. The tax rises slowly, but surely.
Only a paid Chinese trolls would claim that China is not communist. If they are not communist, then show us in their constitution where it allows non-communist ppl to run for office. Likewise show us where you have freedom of speech to speak out against your gov.
And since I do not believe any of your lies about China, why would you suggest a nation that is just as communist as your nation, is democratic?
Seriously, the batteries are useful, but they need to have a system that does NOT depend on the sun. In particular, geo-thermal or nukes would be far better way to go. NuScale is ideal. With 3 small reactors, they could have 180 MW. This would also solve the issue of hurricane, tsunamis, etc.
This would also allow the island to prohibit any more ICE vehicles and instead require that all vehicles be EVs.
Heck, push for electric boats and planes too.
You are a Chinese that is paid to lie and troll.
Nobody in the west is going to believe that CHina is NOT communist.
And only somebody paid to work for the CHinese gov would lie as often as you do esp on something like this.
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Im curious. SpaceX has gotten space going again. It has been doing NOTHING since Apollo. Now, we are really looking at deep space (hopefully LOP-G dies), WRT the moon and mars. More importantly, we are looking SERIOUSLY since it is now economically possible. The BFR should make it easy enough to conqueror the moon quickly, and mars over a decade or two.
So, with that being there, and expanding the space economy, why do you want to see SX die?
Amazing what you "invented" comrade!
Oh cool. So where in Russia, China, or North Korea are you from?
Not just taking losses. The second that we open up our markets to China again, they will dump here, just like India wants to.,
huh?. Really? .3B for building out F9/dragon. NASA has saved well over that amount already. The DOD even more so.
Russia and Europe fully fund all of their launch vehicles.
ULA gets 1B / year subsidy for nothing
Boeing and L-mart are jokes when it comes to their cost+. They are as inefficient as China, Russia AND Europe.
SpaceX got
SX has/is getting some 2B for dragon v2 (along with another 1B for 6 launches to ISS). It remains to be seen how long it will take, if at all, to get this to pay back. Even if it does not pay back, then the 3B to SX and 5B to Boeing will provide redundancy so that HSF is never lost again.
Uh, I think that YOU are the one that does not understand.
SX KNOWS that they need loads of launches. That is why BFR is not just devoted to mars solely. It would make the BFR as pricey as SLS or Ariane 5. Instead, they are building new markets. Markets that Russia OR Europe could be building.
1) launches between continents. Considering how fast and relatively cheap these launches are, it will mean that some business ppl will use it, but the military is also looking into this now. The ability to send first strike back-up in a manner of hours is a huge deal.
2) launches of LARGE sats. Hubble comes to mind. So, does other telescope. The ability to put up Starlink with only 33 launches is huge. In addition, it could launch MULTIPLE BA-2100s and set up a real space station in orbit. All for relatively low prices.
3) Going to the moon. This is huge. If they can go to the moon with a craft every month at first, followed by weekly, then it means that the lunar base is a trivial matter. It will happen quickly and cheaply.
4) going to mars and other parts of the solar system.
All of these will require constant building of new vehicles. Not just the carriers, but the launchers as well. For example, Mars and moon would ideally have these on them as well. Come up to orbit, mate with carrier, then land. Europe pulling back from launch vehicle is a mistake. Hopefully, they will push to get axiom up there and vetted on the ISS. At the least, they should help get lunar exploration going. Axiom with a tug would be a great way to go to the moon.
Actually, they have already learned all they need from F9/FH for the BFR.
BFR is 1 stage, with an upper load that is part stage/part carrier. IOW, like the shuttle. As such, they will be landing BOTH stage 1 and the carrier similar to how F9's stage 1 lands.
There will be no fairing. At least at this moment, there will not be. Instead, it would just be the cargo version of the carrier.
totally agree.
The best thing that can happen is for these launches to get boring because it is the same thing over and over.
Right now, SX has really only a couple of interesting launches coming up. I want to watch the FH, as well as Dragon V2.
FH really needs to launch at least 3x before it starts to be boring. And V2 is very important to getting ISS and new space going.
After these, the next interesting thing might be the lunar launches, but I would say BFR is far more interesting. And BO's new Glenn does not happen until 2020/1.
And you continue to lie and pretend to be falsely moral.
If you were truely worried about per capitia emissions, then America would not matter. Hell, we are around 14 tonnes / person AND DROPPING, while You are now over 9 tonnes / person and continuing to rise. But, more importantly, you would go after the other nations that are MUCH higher than America. Some of them are up as high as 38 tonnes / person. I do not see you as gripping about that.
Basically, you are a rasicst pig who thinks that by going after one nation, then CHina can skip being responsible for their actions. Yet, according to OCO2, it appears that CHina is in the range of 45-55% of all emissions. Once OCO3 goes up, then your nation will have a hard time lying about what you really consume.
only fucking idiots like you, think that per person is the only useful measure. As it is, it is about the WORST one, since ppl do NOT decide. Businesses and GOvs make the choices that matter. Emissions / $ GDP is far far more useful.
Hell, my family has lower emissions than most Indians. We are on par with Sweden, switizerland, etc. Yet, that does not make an impact in America. Why not? Because the businesses decided to put in coal plants 20-30 years ago. These are closing down (America has gone from 65% coal down to 29% coal over the last 10 years), but they are being replaced by Wind, Solar, AND nat gas. While nat gas is far far cleaner than any of the best coal plants, it is still an emitter. We need nukes to replace nat gas, and soon.
it does not matter. You are destroying the planet. You emit close to 1/2 of the CO2 in the world, and with only 1/6 of the population. You can gripe about Americans all you want, but with CHinese over 9 tonnes / person, you emit a great deal more than what America does at 14 tonnes / person, and a population much smaller.
As it is porky/red tide, if you REALLY were concerned about per person, then America would not even hold a candle. We are between 11-14, so we are down there.
In terms of emission per $ GDP, well, you nation just sux. You are one of the WORST, and continue to be so. Yet, you do not grip about that comrade.
No, china is NOT adding 1600 new coal plants. It is over 700 of the 1600 TOTAL that they are adding.
Apparently, Japan and Europe continue to sell coal plants to other nations as well. America no longer does. Nor have we built any in something like 10 years.
Lets see. .04/nighttime kwh and .18/daytime kwh, we can not afford to NOT buy these.
Led lighting.
Electric powertools (i.e. mower, trimmer, etc are all electric).
We have a 10KW solar system on our house. We generate more than we use
We drive a tesla.
I added extra insulation to the house.
We put in Aerogel based windows in several northern exposures (others did not need it).
We will be buying both geo-thermal HVAC upon losing our AC or Furnace.
And when powerwall comes, we will pick up 2 of those. To be honest, with electricity at
I would say that my family is doing more than our part.
But ignore that. America, like Europe, has 1 real weakness, which is transportation. Right now, both Europe's and America's transportation emissions have gone up. Europe's because they have bought 10 years worth of diesel cars that were cheating. So, Europe's calculations for transportation emissions are showing low (which explains why OCO2 shows issues with Europe's reported numbers and what it sees; OCO2 can see that there is MORE CO2 in Europe and much more esp. in China, than what is being reported; just can not tell us how much. ). America's transportation emissions have gone up and Trump's recent action may be the first one that will actually make things worse. The one good news for America is that Tesla is coming on strong and will likely destroy a number of ICE car sales. If this really happens, then it will force all car makers to switch to EVs, which will really drop America's emissions again. As it is, America is in the tops for adding AE PER CAPITA. IOW, we add a LOT more AE than China relative to the population, which is why electricity emissions continue to drop faster than China's and parts of Europe.
While you and I agree about nuclear, yucca's blockage is NOT from Dems, but from GOP. In particular, from the Nevada citizens, who are mostly GOP. With that said, I'm opposed to using yucca yet. Plenty of fuel left in that waste. We need to use up a lot more before burying it.
Nope. Had nothing to do with it. It is down due to killing 1/2 of our coal plants, and replacing with wind, solar, and Nat gas.
Not even close. We are somewhere are 11-14 now.
The problem is that every politician wants the other nations to do the work. This is why I continue to say skip carbon taxes. Instead, tax all goods/services based on.where the worst part/service , in terms of CO2, comes from. The tax rises slowly, but surely.
EU has gone down over the last 20 years. They have plateaued recently, but they are not growing.
Too many nations refuse to cut their coal. Infact, we 100s more coal plants coming over the next couple of years.
TSMC is NOT US, but Taiwan.
Only a paid Chinese trolls would claim that China is not communist. If they are not communist, then show us in their constitution where it allows non-communist ppl to run for office. Likewise show us where you have freedom of speech to speak out against your gov.
And since I do not believe any of your lies about China, why would you suggest a nation that is just as communist as your nation, is democratic?
There are no rems in Tesla battery cells. The model 3 is using neodymium for 1 motor.
Current battery design uses 2.8% Cobalt. Next design, which is already tested, will have none.
Th rest is Lithium, Nickel, and Aluminum. No REMs.
Seriously, the batteries are useful, but they need to have a system that does NOT depend on the sun. In particular, geo-thermal or nukes would be far better way to go. NuScale is ideal. With 3 small reactors, they could have 180 MW. This would also solve the issue of hurricane, tsunamis, etc.
This would also allow the island to prohibit any more ICE vehicles and instead require that all vehicles be EVs.
Heck, push for electric boats and planes too.
You are a Chinese that is paid to lie and troll. Nobody in the west is going to believe that CHina is NOT communist.
And only somebody paid to work for the CHinese gov would lie as often as you do esp on something like this.
Rarely watch fox news, though I have done so for the last 6 months. I keep waiting for Mueller to bring down the boom on Trump. Trump is more a like German Nazi than an America. The problem is, that we have pence is just as guilty of treason as Trump. What will our Dems do. CNN and others do not give up that info. Fox is far more likely to have that.
And porky/red tide, Only an idiot would believe that China is NOT COMMUNIST. You continue to do what your paid to do, which is lie and think that you can convince others that you are not communist, but the fact remains that you can not vote in ANYBODY except those that are in the Communist party. In addition, your constitution, spells out what rights you have (which is pretty little and regular trodden on) and then gives all other rights to the communist party. And your economy still remains under your parties control. Just because they allow certain companies to compete with the west, means nothing.
You are STILL COMMUNIST. U more so. The fact that you continue to lie and defend your gov's communist ways, AND lie about your emissions, speaks volumes. When you have a non-communist gov in your nation, then you can claim that it is not communist.