had you looked it up further, you would have seen that the entire west, as a whole, has our emissions dropping. In addition, other than Germany, eastern Europe, Australia, and now Japan, the west has stopped building coal plants.
And O really pushed Wind/Solar here (too bad he allowed China to dump here), and now, Trump is about to focus on geo-thermal, along with nuclear power. Both of these will be capable of replacing a lot of base-load and dropping America's CO2. Add to that the fact that the west is moving heavily towards EVs, while getting their electricity cleaner and cleaner.
Co2 will continue to rise until ALL nations are made to lower their emissions together. China is building out 700 GW of new coal plants, while the entire west has less than 700 GW .
Due to America's consumption of goods, esp. from China, all that is needed is for America, if not the west, to tax ALL consumed goods/services based on where the worst part/service comes from. This will get nations to either clean up, choose clean energy for the future (i.e. no more buying of coal plants from china), lose exported parts/service sales, or have local manufacturers/services leave those nations and move to others which choose to lower their emissions.
Use satellites to get the same precision (though accuracy can be argued), and then normalize based on emissions / $GDP. This later is because it is businesses and govs that choose the dirty routes, not citizens. How many citizens in china will vote to nearly DOUBLE their coal plants over the next 8 years, and yet, that is CHina's plan?
no chip. However, your griping that America should not be in R*D except for
it's science for defense and science for metrology standards.
The gov can and should do lots of things. For example, much of our vaccines and anti-biotics came from fed R*D, not from private businesses. The reason is that antibiotics solve issues and makes far far less money than drugs that simply gloss over recurring issues.
Our highway system was developed for the military, and that dictated our cars, in part.
DOT then does regulations because it is cheaper to have well made SAFE cars than to simply allow private businesses to decide. The pinto is a GREAT example of what happens when private businesses decide safety issues.
And no, we are not USSR. I know. I helped develop defense and weapons against them. BUT, just because we are not communist, does not mean that limited regulations are not needed.
BTW, that AC was not me.
I agree with a lot of what you say, but Clinton's policy and accord with china is not really what did that.
It was in 2005 that W passed the infamous tax law that says that those companies did not have to pay taxes until the money was repatriated. At that point, it was better for companies to keep it offshore and wait for idiots that would give major tax breaks on this rather than roll that back.
And to be fair, both O and Trump are disaster WRT China. O allowed China to constantly dump and did nothing about it. Trump's taxes are a joke. His effective rate for offshore repatriating is around 14%, while he is charging 21% for on-shore. At worst, those numbers should have been reversed, and the smart one would have been doing zero corporate taxes for America-made/serviced/sold, while the offshored businesses where charged 25%.
First, I used to be Libertarian, but am now GDI. IOW, I have less to do with dems than I do with GOP, which is very little.
Secondly, it is the GOP that continues to gut the fundings for education. For states that have given decent funding, like we used to do back in the 40-60s, they are tops in our nation. Who are the worst? Those with little funding.
BTW, my sons go to a charter school . Next year, they are switching to a stem charter school. Why? Because Koch bros funded a bunch of fucking GOPers who took over Douglas County school district in Colorado about 7 years ago, and drove what was considered a top 50 district in the nation, and top 5 in the state into mid-20 in the state and not even ranked in the nation. While my house's value HAS gown up in that time, it used to be at the top for growth. Now, we are middle of the road for value in a state that is booming.
technically, none.
MS never had a hit on a software product on day 1.
It took them several decades to create a locked-in monopoly of office and OS. From there, they would do things like release their visual product for cheap, and then give it away for free until borland was pretty much gone. Then and only then did they worry about IP.
Well, technically, Bing could.
But, Im hoping that DOJ will break up these companies in a vertical fashion. Google, Facebook and Amazon are all good ones to be broken up. Not sure why they pointed to apple when in fact they have no real monopoly and no longer are considered to be the top dog in anything.
But, if Google was broken up, vertically into say 3 different googles and all with the same search capabilities, then they would compete against themselves (and perhaps bing, though I doubt it) and we would then see google restored.
Seriously, this is one company that is following right in the footsteps of yahoo, IBM, HP, etc. They had TOP notch ppl and now have a fucking worthless POS CEO that is busy gutting them. Within 2 years, it will be apparent that Google has not only lost the top edge, but will not have ANY chance of regaining it.
In fact, as I pointed out before, the VC should be going inside of Google and gutting them by funding good ideas. There are still ppl there with good ideas that are leaving now, and should be used on start-ups instead.
It is amazing how the far right really does not understand how important all of those items are. Even now, the military is pointing out how worthless our high school grads are. They are in HORRIBLE shape, and many of them can not pass boot camp or even pass high school.
Oddly, the GOP screams about having a strong defense, while gutting EVERYTHING needed to make it so.
The GOP is SOOOO fucking over America.
Actually, economics, esp. manufacturing, is what enables a strong military.
WHen you do NOT have that, then any strong military is simply a drain on society. And right now, our mlitary is draining our GDP because of the idiots in CONgress.
USA companies compete FINE. What they can not compete against, is a nation that is DUMPING good on the west, as a means of destroying them.
The fact that you do not understand economics, and are now describing some horrible ideas), suggest to me that you are trolling for either Russia or China.
Sigh. Another GOP who has never served in the military.
Look, the military is about PROTECTION of America, and improving our defense. The highway system was built up to serve the military in times of war, while also helping our nation in a civilian fashion.
Energy is a SERIOUS issue for the military and our nation. As such, this R&D and even the subsidies to get this stuff going, IS about defense.
And as has been pointed out by the DOD, climate change, if it goes too far, will lead to massive numbers of wars and refugee issues.
Sadly, ppl like you are NOT listening to them because you AND YOUR FAMILY NEVER FUCKING SERVED.
You have NO idea of what it means to put it on the line. Nor do you have any idea of what it means to AVOID a war.
Far too many of you on the right, are like trump, cowards.
Seriously, we need to add a lot more geothermal and SMR nukes (not the gen 3/3+ crap from toshiba, etc) that are affordable, clean energy, and will provide base-load power, as opposed to wind/solar. Do not get me wrong. Both of these are needed and will continue. States are backing solar, and wind is ready to drop all subsidies on anyways.
As to dropping EV subsidies, Tesla has always begged for it since all of their competitors have NEVER used it correctly. And they are correct. Those subsidies SHOULD have been used on 150 MPC EVs and not on 75 MPC/hybrids which then charge in the daytime increasing demand and then pushing coal plants.
Exactly.
And Kaiser is the cheapest insurance going.
Technically, it is nonprofit, but like Ikea, it really is profit based. Just hiding from taxes, while paying into a large family.
Hopefully, this insurance will be either non-profit, or will push for Medicare for all.
ACA was force on the nation as GOP refused to actually work with them. Then the GOP has done everything to destroy. Yet, if we go back to BEFORE ACA, America's deficit increases a great deal.
Seriously, what value does ICE tracking LP give America's ability to secure itself? Absolutely NONE.
I do not mind giving SOME help to LEOs by POTENTIALLY hurting our rights, but only when it is about national security.
This is not. There is little to nothing in this that helps national security.
This should absolutely not be allowed.
Nor should the feds subsidize states that do not pay enough in. That is getting old that the blue states fund the feds, while the red states waste money.
Only a fool would think that this was any good.
Want to bring back jobs to America? Simple
1) drop ALL deductions, exemptions, and breaks.
2) now, for any business that is 80% American-made, American-sold, American-service and will pay their gains in America,
they pay ZERO corporate tax.
Start this at 40% and then raise by 5% each year until hitting 80%.
3) for all others, charge 25% corporate tax.
4) Charge a 20% VAT like most other nations.
This is how you MAGA. Trump is killing us with his BS, and simply pointing out minor things that MIGHT do something. And yes, this MIGHT do something.
Only an idiot thinks that this is a subsidy to Tesla.
Chinese gov will simply increase their subsidies to solar companies and drop their panels to 30% below Solar City's.
Now, Solar Cities is actually one of the cheapest on the planet. With a second plant, they should be even cheaper.
and yet, it is NOT a subsidy to Tesla.
China is simply going to subsidize until the $/watt is less than.40 and then dump more on America. Basically, this is not a subsidy, but an economic war, in which Tesla is going to have a struggle.
You need to get out of your hole.
The CEO SUX and has been destroying Google. Pichai is worthless and is more focused on his portfolio than on Google's long-term prospects (basically, he should go to work for the OLD GE and help destroy them).
However, what would be smart, would be for the silicon VCs to start going through the google ppl and trying to find innovators and encourage them to start up new businesses.
The one good news is that Musk is making America strong again in all of these things.
America is now the #1 developer of EVs, and shortly the #1 manufacturer of EVs.
Likewise, with this tariff, I think that Solar City/Tesla will jump way ahead of Chinese manufacturing, though in Germany, you appear to be giving up the ghost.
And as to an earlier statement about Tesla sending solar panels to China, just because they show a china pix, does not mean that it will happen. China continues to block any and all foreign makers of solar from entering into THEIR nation, though they dump on all others, including Germany and America.
Only an idiot sees that as investment.
And no, America did NOT invest into fossil fuels. As the article said, it was Americas research that China was grabbing. IOW, it was OUR investment.
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had you looked it up further, you would have seen that the entire west, as a whole, has our emissions dropping. In addition, other than Germany, eastern Europe, Australia, and now Japan, the west has stopped building coal plants.
And O really pushed Wind/Solar here (too bad he allowed China to dump here), and now, Trump is about to focus on geo-thermal, along with nuclear power. Both of these will be capable of replacing a lot of base-load and dropping America's CO2. Add to that the fact that the west is moving heavily towards EVs, while getting their electricity cleaner and cleaner.
Co2 will continue to rise until ALL nations are made to lower their emissions together. China is building out 700 GW of new coal plants, while the entire west has less than 700 GW .
Due to America's consumption of goods, esp. from China, all that is needed is for America, if not the west, to tax ALL consumed goods/services based on where the worst part/service comes from. This will get nations to either clean up, choose clean energy for the future (i.e. no more buying of coal plants from china), lose exported parts/service sales, or have local manufacturers/services leave those nations and move to others which choose to lower their emissions.
Use satellites to get the same precision (though accuracy can be argued), and then normalize based on emissions / $GDP. This later is because it is businesses and govs that choose the dirty routes, not citizens. How many citizens in china will vote to nearly DOUBLE their coal plants over the next 8 years, and yet, that is CHina's plan?
it's science for defense and science for metrology standards.
The gov can and should do lots of things. For example, much of our vaccines and anti-biotics came from fed R*D, not from private businesses. The reason is that antibiotics solve issues and makes far far less money than drugs that simply gloss over recurring issues.
Our highway system was developed for the military, and that dictated our cars, in part.
DOT then does regulations because it is cheaper to have well made SAFE cars than to simply allow private businesses to decide. The pinto is a GREAT example of what happens when private businesses decide safety issues.
And no, we are not USSR. I know. I helped develop defense and weapons against them. BUT, just because we are not communist, does not mean that limited regulations are not needed.
BTW, that AC was not me.
I agree with a lot of what you say, but Clinton's policy and accord with china is not really what did that.
It was in 2005 that W passed the infamous tax law that says that those companies did not have to pay taxes until the money was repatriated. At that point, it was better for companies to keep it offshore and wait for idiots that would give major tax breaks on this rather than roll that back.
And to be fair, both O and Trump are disaster WRT China. O allowed China to constantly dump and did nothing about it. Trump's taxes are a joke. His effective rate for offshore repatriating is around 14%, while he is charging 21% for on-shore. At worst, those numbers should have been reversed, and the smart one would have been doing zero corporate taxes for America-made/serviced/sold, while the offshored businesses where charged 25%.
First, I used to be Libertarian, but am now GDI. IOW, I have less to do with dems than I do with GOP, which is very little.
Secondly, it is the GOP that continues to gut the fundings for education. For states that have given decent funding, like we used to do back in the 40-60s, they are tops in our nation. Who are the worst? Those with little funding.
BTW, my sons go to a charter school . Next year, they are switching to a stem charter school. Why? Because Koch bros funded a bunch of fucking GOPers who took over Douglas County school district in Colorado about 7 years ago, and drove what was considered a top 50 district in the nation, and top 5 in the state into mid-20 in the state and not even ranked in the nation. While my house's value HAS gown up in that time, it used to be at the top for growth. Now, we are middle of the road for value in a state that is booming.
technically, none.
MS never had a hit on a software product on day 1.
It took them several decades to create a locked-in monopoly of office and OS. From there, they would do things like release their visual product for cheap, and then give it away for free until borland was pretty much gone. Then and only then did they worry about IP.
Well, technically, Bing could.
But, Im hoping that DOJ will break up these companies in a vertical fashion. Google, Facebook and Amazon are all good ones to be broken up. Not sure why they pointed to apple when in fact they have no real monopoly and no longer are considered to be the top dog in anything.
But, if Google was broken up, vertically into say 3 different googles and all with the same search capabilities, then they would compete against themselves (and perhaps bing, though I doubt it) and we would then see google restored.
Seriously, this is one company that is following right in the footsteps of yahoo, IBM, HP, etc. They had TOP notch ppl and now have a fucking worthless POS CEO that is busy gutting them. Within 2 years, it will be apparent that Google has not only lost the top edge, but will not have ANY chance of regaining it.
In fact, as I pointed out before, the VC should be going inside of Google and gutting them by funding good ideas. There are still ppl there with good ideas that are leaving now, and should be used on start-ups instead.
It is amazing how the far right really does not understand how important all of those items are. Even now, the military is pointing out how worthless our high school grads are. They are in HORRIBLE shape, and many of them can not pass boot camp or even pass high school.
Oddly, the GOP screams about having a strong defense, while gutting EVERYTHING needed to make it so.
The GOP is SOOOO fucking over America.
Actually, economics, esp. manufacturing, is what enables a strong military.
WHen you do NOT have that, then any strong military is simply a drain on society. And right now, our mlitary is draining our GDP because of the idiots in CONgress.
USA companies compete FINE. What they can not compete against, is a nation that is DUMPING good on the west, as a means of destroying them.
The fact that you do not understand economics, and are now describing some horrible ideas), suggest to me that you are trolling for either Russia or China.
Sigh. Another GOP who has never served in the military.
Look, the military is about PROTECTION of America, and improving our defense. The highway system was built up to serve the military in times of war, while also helping our nation in a civilian fashion.
Energy is a SERIOUS issue for the military and our nation. As such, this R&D and even the subsidies to get this stuff going, IS about defense.
And as has been pointed out by the DOD, climate change, if it goes too far, will lead to massive numbers of wars and refugee issues.
Sadly, ppl like you are NOT listening to them because you AND YOUR FAMILY NEVER FUCKING SERVED.
You have NO idea of what it means to put it on the line. Nor do you have any idea of what it means to AVOID a war.
Far too many of you on the right, are like trump, cowards.
Seriously, we need to add a lot more geothermal and SMR nukes (not the gen 3/3+ crap from toshiba, etc) that are affordable, clean energy, and will provide base-load power, as opposed to wind/solar. Do not get me wrong. Both of these are needed and will continue. States are backing solar, and wind is ready to drop all subsidies on anyways.
As to dropping EV subsidies, Tesla has always begged for it since all of their competitors have NEVER used it correctly. And they are correct. Those subsidies SHOULD have been used on 150 MPC EVs and not on 75 MPC/hybrids which then charge in the daytime increasing demand and then pushing coal plants.
Exactly. And Kaiser is the cheapest insurance going. Technically, it is nonprofit, but like Ikea, it really is profit based. Just hiding from taxes, while paying into a large family. Hopefully, this insurance will be either non-profit, or will push for Medicare for all.
This would also enable NSA to have full access to 5G. Of course, they already do, so this is not as big of a deal.
ACA was force on the nation as GOP refused to actually work with them. Then the GOP has done everything to destroy. Yet, if we go back to BEFORE ACA, America's deficit increases a great deal.
Seriously, what value does ICE tracking LP give America's ability to secure itself? Absolutely NONE.
I do not mind giving SOME help to LEOs by POTENTIALLY hurting our rights, but only when it is about national security.
This is not. There is little to nothing in this that helps national security.
This should absolutely not be allowed.
Nor should the feds subsidize states that do not pay enough in. That is getting old that the blue states fund the feds, while the red states waste money.
Only a fool would think that this was any good.
Want to bring back jobs to America? Simple
1) drop ALL deductions, exemptions, and breaks.
2) now, for any business that is 80% American-made, American-sold, American-service and will pay their gains in America, they pay ZERO corporate tax.
Start this at 40% and then raise by 5% each year until hitting 80%.
3) for all others, charge 25% corporate tax. 4) Charge a 20% VAT like most other nations.
This is how you MAGA. Trump is killing us with his BS, and simply pointing out minor things that MIGHT do something. And yes, this MIGHT do something.
Only an idiot thinks that this is a subsidy to Tesla.
Chinese gov will simply increase their subsidies to solar companies and drop their panels to 30% below Solar City's.
Now, Solar Cities is actually one of the cheapest on the planet. With a second plant, they should be even cheaper.
and yet, it is NOT a subsidy to Tesla. .40 and then dump more on America. Basically, this is not a subsidy, but an economic war, in which Tesla is going to have a struggle.
China is simply going to subsidize until the $/watt is less than
You need to get out of your hole.
The CEO SUX and has been destroying Google. Pichai is worthless and is more focused on his portfolio than on Google's long-term prospects (basically, he should go to work for the OLD GE and help destroy them).
However, what would be smart, would be for the silicon VCs to start going through the google ppl and trying to find innovators and encourage them to start up new businesses.
LOL.
First off, the discission is about Solar Panels, not wind. BUT, since you brought it up. Germany has contributed very little R&D to SOlar OR Wind Turbines.
US and Denmark are the 2 main developers of wind turbines all the way up until 2000
And here we see that America developed not only first solar cell, but also into the production of it starting in 1953 forward.
And even more we see that Germany contributed little to nothing in this realm
Now, I realize that eveybody wants to be proud of their nation, but to claim that Germany had much to do with either wind turbines or solar cells is a joke.
And as an American with real relatives still in Scotland AND Germany, I am happy to see Europe do good things.
BUT, facts are facts. Unlike an idiot over here, I do not believe in Alternative facts.
In terms of money, America has WAY outspent Germany and even Europe on R&D dealing with AE.
Your pointing to wind turbines that have gone up has NOTHING to do with R&D, which is EXACTLY what I spoke of.
And the reason why America lost our manufacturing was due to the SA link that I produced. Basically, China targeted BOTH Germany and America, since they are still in a cold war with the west.
The one good news is that Musk is making America strong again in all of these things.
America is now the #1 developer of EVs, and shortly the #1 manufacturer of EVs.
Likewise, with this tariff, I think that Solar City/Tesla will jump way ahead of Chinese manufacturing, though in Germany, you appear to be giving up the ghost.
And as to an earlier statement about Tesla sending solar panels to China, just because they show a china pix, does not mean that it will happen. China continues to block any and all foreign makers of solar from entering into THEIR nation, though they dump on all others, including Germany and America.
Only an idiot sees that as investment.
And no, America did NOT invest into fossil fuels. As the article said, it was Americas research that China was grabbing. IOW, it was OUR investment.
And yet, you can not Post a single honest link to show where trump gave Tesla a 30% subsidy. Idiot.