What the fuck is wrong with you people? Some more of "his type of independence"? You mean like dismantling the fucking government? That dude is INSANE. Give it up. And that's before you even get to the facts that he's at best a racist apologist. You fucking morons drive me NUTS!
Ron Paul's pro-anarchy economic policies will not play in any general election ever. Not even in the United States where at least a third of the votes are cast by complete lunatics.
Wow, you religious nuts try so hard to reconcile the real world with your make believe. Why don't you just give up already because you're always going to fail at it?
And what the fuck is "intoxicatingly useful" even supposed to mean?
What makes you think Lieberman is a total douche bag? And if you weren't 12 at the time he was railing on violent video games, you would understand the issues at hand. The popular position of the Democrat party at the time was that columbine shootings and all the other school shootings were the cause of Violent Video Games where the you just killed everything on the screen. They were particularly upset over video games that put you in a role of killing cops too. You might remember Tipper Gore's campaign on hollywood and game violence. Well, since you were 12, I doubt it.
I wasn't 12 at the time of the Columbine shootings and if you think that is when Lieberman started his attacks on video games you came late to the party. Lieberman is a total douche bag because his policies are dead wrong and he lectures other people as if he were right. If he didn't go around lecturing he'd still be a douche bag, just not on this issue. But he'd still be wrong on it.
To say that the "popular" opinion in the Democratic party was ever that violent video games were the cause of the Columbine massacre is not only inaccurate but outrageous. The fact that you call it the "Democrat party" instead of the "Democratic party" (its proper name) is usually a sign that you are a right-wing crank, you might want to check that a bit.
Also, What makes you think that we need a national health care system so that our businesses can compete internationally? There is nothing comparing the two together unless your attempting to reference that businesses that pay for health care have a higher cost structure then foreign companies. But that is easily offset by tax differences. But seriously, I need to know the methodology behind this idea, please tell me.
If you don't realize that companies have moved their manufacturing out of the country primarily because of the lower labor costs due to their nationalized health care system you are either very ignorant or highly delusional. You can take the Toyota Rav4 plant that went to Canada as an example before you start demanding one.
That we could provide the same level of coverage at a 20% (minimum) discount by establishing a single payer system is without question, because that's how much the private insurers spend DENYING coverage. Private health insurance is a huge failure by any objective measure of results, the only reasonable metric to judge such things by AND it is costing us more. It's not only embarrassing but incredibly stupid.
As for the Iraq and Afghanistan comment, I actually agree with it except I don't think leaving in defeat is a viable option without it blowing up afterwards. You may disagree and I hope your right in this one. But when the enemies goal is to say we won come fight by out side, I'm not sure how leaving them with anything but defeat is an option. We can redefine victory as long as it is understood by the other side and that would be fine by me.
If we stay in Iraq and Afghanistan and they continue on the path they are on we have lost. If we pull out and those countries explode even more than they already have we've lost. If we stay indefinitely, even if things get better (which they won't), then we're an empire and we've lost. We're kind of fucked no matter what happens and we can thank douche bags like Lieberman (and the guys who are even worse) for that.
The problem as I see it is that that type of politician who would back a law against video games would back many other unfavorable laws. It isn't really that the video games would be the issue but the icing on the cake of issues. You can put a wolf in a sheep's clothing and place him in the flock but when it starts howling at the moon, everyone will know it is a wolf. How do you know the limits to speech would be restricted to video games, how do you know the wolf will only howl at the moon and not start eating the sheep? And often, if you look hard enough, you will see that the wolf has eaten sheep in the past just like a politician
Does anyone seriously use a trackpad that way? I'd think that most people would use their thumb. I certainly do and it's pretty fucking annoying to use both thumbs just to get a right-click.
I've got to totally agree. The very first politician I ever gave a fuck about was Joe Lieberman because he was attacking games when I was 12 years old. Then when I got older I learned that he was a complete and total douche bag. At the very least when a politician goes about railing against video games they're not doing our business, and we have some serious fucking business that needs doing today. It is definitely a good sign that their priorities are seriously out of line.
How about getting a national healthcare system so that our businesses can compete internationally? Or maybe try getting our kids out of Iraq and Afghanistan so they can stop dying, and while you're at it do so in such a way that the whole world won't explode when we go?
On the other hand, anyone who votes for a candidate based on their attacks (or lack there of) on video games is a fucking moron and doesn't deserve the franchise. There are very good reasons not to like any of the "anti-video game" politicians that I can think of, so get some education on the topic and vote on real issues.
No, I wasn't. There are a lot of projects that aim to make it easier to use external libraries for sound, input, etc with OGRE3D, but it does not include any of that stuff (by design) as part of the package. Those features are provided as optional modules that are part of CrystalSpace in that they (I believe they call it CEL from looking at their front page, and I'm assuming this is what the Blender guys were talking about) provide these as an official add-on. OGRE3D is a rendering engine only.
Also, OGRE3D is LGPL and has been for quite some time. There's no reason someone can't release a commercial game using it. By the way, this is the exact same license as CrystalSpace. The Irrlicht license is based on the zlib/libpng license, which is basically BSD with a different name. I've never heard of Lightfeather so I didn't even bother to look at the license there, but I'll assume it's either LGPL or some BSD-like, too.
Yeah, I've never seen much from Irrlicht to get excited about but was throwing it out there because it's the only other complete open source game engine (I think that's right, not even completely sure) that I could think of and they seemed to want an all-in-one solution rather than the graphics engine with plugins for the other stuff that OGRE provides. Or maybe they were just saying that because they know the CrystalSpace guys and that was the main reason (not necessarily an invalid one) that they picked it.
From what I've seen of it OGRE3D seems pretty awesome, and while I'm not much of a programmer, I'd rather they'd gone that way myself. Let's hope this CrystalSpace project turns out alright so that they do another one. I'd love to see some OGRE guys step in and get a piece of that action. It'd be great for Blender to show that it works great with multiple engines and great for OGRE3D to show that it's awesome. Perhaps even kick off a bit of an open source game engine arms race where we all win.
Not believing in evolution doesn't mean believing in creationism.
Yes, it does. You're a fucking moron and just like Ron Paul have no idea what you're talking about. Go back to your Ron Paul cult and leave the sane people alone.
It's probably as good as anything out there that's open source. Especially if they already have guys with experience working with it, which seems to be the case.
So you think a 3DS Max shop like Blizzard has to sit down and think if they're going to use 3DS Max for their next game or they just decide that they're going to do Starcraft 2 and that OF COURSE they're going to use the tools that they're comfortable with and already trained on?
How about any big 3D feature studio? Sure they might need to identify some supplemental tools (or some custom plugs/scripts) to work with Maya, but it's not like they're going to even think about throwing out all their existing tools for a new project.
And, as someone already said, OF COURSE you're going to use a specific tool if the whole point of doing your project is to promote a specific tool or tool chain. These guys are out to prove the viability of open source tools in fields that are dominated by closed source, proprietary tools and their 3D modeling and animation software of choice is Blender.
I finally sat down to really learn Blender this week and it's actually really, really nice. A little bit weird (coming from a background in Maya), but I absolutely LOVE it compared to something like 3DS. It's got a great range of tools (video editor, audio editor, etc) in addition to the core modeling and animation stuff and if you're looking to do any 3D work for cheap (or you just love open source) I see no reason for it not to figure prominently in your pipeline.
Not really. A sensible person looks at each case individually. Obviously Ron Paul doesn't feel that the evidence for evolution is enough to support it, but that doesn't mean he'll come to the same conclusion in other cases. Of course, this depends on the assumption that Dr. Paul is a sensible person who evaluates each issue on its own merits, but I try to give people the benefit of the doubt.
Then he is a complete and total idiot. If you look at his other positions you'll see that clearly he doesn't have a lot of sense and that he's "right" on the war (possibly his only correct position) probably for the wrong reasons, much like Pat Buchanan.
No, nothing is. But it's a damn good start. You'll notice that the United States was founded by secularists, many (most?) of them to one degree or another were religious themselves. While I'm all for the complete elimination of religion, it's the secular ideals of the Enlightenment that gave rise to any liberty we have managed to achieve in the United States.
Religion is no guarantee of tyranny
No, but it certainly is a good start.
Ron Paul being a creationist is completely irrelevant to his ability to be a good president.
This is complete bullshit. If he can't accept facts based on evidence when it is the most solid any human has ever witnessed how can anyone expect him to rationally handle situations where the facts are less certain and the evidence more nuanced? Being a creationist should bar anyone from becoming president. Not because it is their religion but because it is profoundly stupid.
If we should be in support of exporting anything (except goods MADE IN USA) it should be secularism. Liberty and democracy will follow from that.
And GP: It's kind of sad that it took a lunatic like Ron Paul to finally see something so blatantly obvious, but congratulations anyway. I sincerely hope you are not supporting him though. The guy is an anarchist, creationist, and at the very least a promoter of racists.
Bullshit, there is so much fucking demand for work right now that we have millions of people working TWO part-time jobs (or more) making minimum wage or damn near it because employers don't want to pay full-time benefits and don't have to. You are an unbelievable moron and I can't believe we let idiots like you live.
I hate unions, I think they're by and large full of selfish, greedy people that don't give a damn about anybody not in a union.
Even if everyone in a union was a greedy, selfish bastard (compared to what, the studio execs making millions of dollars a year?) they raise wages for everyone, even those who aren't in a union because non-union workers will just jump ship to work at a union shop if they can make more money there. If you can't understand that you are a complete and total moron.
Maybe he was pointing out that even if Linux is horribly complicated to install and setup (it's not) it's still better than running vista, which you will know after spending way too much to buy a computer with it pre-installed.
In one issue of the Ron Paul Survival Report, which he had published since 1985, he called former U.S. representative Barbara Jordan a "fraud" and a "half-educated victimologist." In another issue, he cited reports that 85 percent of all black men in Washington, D.C., are arrested at some point: "Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the 'criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." And under the headline "Terrorist Update," he wrote: "If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."
Can one of you idiots supporting Ron Paul please attempt to explain away comments like that? Because the rest of us can't get enough of the entertainment provided by your stupidity.
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What the fuck is wrong with you people? Some more of "his type of independence"? You mean like dismantling the fucking government? That dude is INSANE. Give it up. And that's before you even get to the facts that he's at best a racist apologist. You fucking morons drive me NUTS!
Ron Paul's pro-anarchy economic policies will not play in any general election ever. Not even in the United States where at least a third of the votes are cast by complete lunatics.
Wow, you religious nuts try so hard to reconcile the real world with your make believe. Why don't you just give up already because you're always going to fail at it?
And what the fuck is "intoxicatingly useful" even supposed to mean?
You're nuts, Ron Paul wouldn't have a shot at winning the general election if he were the only guy on the ballot.
What makes you think Lieberman is a total douche bag? And if you weren't 12 at the time he was railing on violent video games, you would understand the issues at hand. The popular position of the Democrat party at the time was that columbine shootings and all the other school shootings were the cause of Violent Video Games where the you just killed everything on the screen. They were particularly upset over video games that put you in a role of killing cops too. You might remember Tipper Gore's campaign on hollywood and game violence. Well, since you were 12, I doubt it.
I wasn't 12 at the time of the Columbine shootings and if you think that is when Lieberman started his attacks on video games you came late to the party. Lieberman is a total douche bag because his policies are dead wrong and he lectures other people as if he were right. If he didn't go around lecturing he'd still be a douche bag, just not on this issue. But he'd still be wrong on it.
To say that the "popular" opinion in the Democratic party was ever that violent video games were the cause of the Columbine massacre is not only inaccurate but outrageous. The fact that you call it the "Democrat party" instead of the "Democratic party" (its proper name) is usually a sign that you are a right-wing crank, you might want to check that a bit.
Also, What makes you think that we need a national health care system so that our businesses can compete internationally? There is nothing comparing the two together unless your attempting to reference that businesses that pay for health care have a higher cost structure then foreign companies. But that is easily offset by tax differences. But seriously, I need to know the methodology behind this idea, please tell me.
If you don't realize that companies have moved their manufacturing out of the country primarily because of the lower labor costs due to their nationalized health care system you are either very ignorant or highly delusional. You can take the Toyota Rav4 plant that went to Canada as an example before you start demanding one.
That we could provide the same level of coverage at a 20% (minimum) discount by establishing a single payer system is without question, because that's how much the private insurers spend DENYING coverage. Private health insurance is a huge failure by any objective measure of results, the only reasonable metric to judge such things by AND it is costing us more. It's not only embarrassing but incredibly stupid.
As for the Iraq and Afghanistan comment, I actually agree with it except I don't think leaving in defeat is a viable option without it blowing up afterwards. You may disagree and I hope your right in this one. But when the enemies goal is to say we won come fight by out side, I'm not sure how leaving them with anything but defeat is an option. We can redefine victory as long as it is understood by the other side and that would be fine by me.
If we stay in Iraq and Afghanistan and they continue on the path they are on we have lost. If we pull out and those countries explode even more than they already have we've lost. If we stay indefinitely, even if things get better (which they won't), then we're an empire and we've lost. We're kind of fucked no matter what happens and we can thank douche bags like Lieberman (and the guys who are even worse) for that.
The problem as I see it is that that type of politician who would back a law against video games would back many other unfavorable laws. It isn't really that the video games would be the issue but the icing on the cake of issues. You can put a wolf in a sheep's clothing and place him in the flock but when it starts howling at the moon, everyone will know it is a wolf. How do you know the limits to speech would be restricted to video games, how do you know the wolf will only howl at the moon and not start eating the sheep? And often, if you look hard enough, you will see that the wolf has eaten sheep in the past just like a politician
Does anyone seriously use a trackpad that way? I'd think that most people would use their thumb. I certainly do and it's pretty fucking annoying to use both thumbs just to get a right-click.
I've got to totally agree. The very first politician I ever gave a fuck about was Joe Lieberman because he was attacking games when I was 12 years old. Then when I got older I learned that he was a complete and total douche bag. At the very least when a politician goes about railing against video games they're not doing our business, and we have some serious fucking business that needs doing today. It is definitely a good sign that their priorities are seriously out of line.
How about getting a national healthcare system so that our businesses can compete internationally? Or maybe try getting our kids out of Iraq and Afghanistan so they can stop dying, and while you're at it do so in such a way that the whole world won't explode when we go?
On the other hand, anyone who votes for a candidate based on their attacks (or lack there of) on video games is a fucking moron and doesn't deserve the franchise. There are very good reasons not to like any of the "anti-video game" politicians that I can think of, so get some education on the topic and vote on real issues.
I wish I hadn't, please just let that crap die. And miguel can still suck my cock with his left eye socket.
No, I wasn't. There are a lot of projects that aim to make it easier to use external libraries for sound, input, etc with OGRE3D, but it does not include any of that stuff (by design) as part of the package. Those features are provided as optional modules that are part of CrystalSpace in that they (I believe they call it CEL from looking at their front page, and I'm assuming this is what the Blender guys were talking about) provide these as an official add-on. OGRE3D is a rendering engine only.
Also, OGRE3D is LGPL and has been for quite some time. There's no reason someone can't release a commercial game using it. By the way, this is the exact same license as CrystalSpace. The Irrlicht license is based on the zlib/libpng license, which is basically BSD with a different name. I've never heard of Lightfeather so I didn't even bother to look at the license there, but I'll assume it's either LGPL or some BSD-like, too.
But drinking too much before bed ruins your enjoyment of drinking too much first thing in the morning!
Yeah, I've never seen much from Irrlicht to get excited about but was throwing it out there because it's the only other complete open source game engine (I think that's right, not even completely sure) that I could think of and they seemed to want an all-in-one solution rather than the graphics engine with plugins for the other stuff that OGRE provides. Or maybe they were just saying that because they know the CrystalSpace guys and that was the main reason (not necessarily an invalid one) that they picked it.
From what I've seen of it OGRE3D seems pretty awesome, and while I'm not much of a programmer, I'd rather they'd gone that way myself. Let's hope this CrystalSpace project turns out alright so that they do another one. I'd love to see some OGRE guys step in and get a piece of that action. It'd be great for Blender to show that it works great with multiple engines and great for OGRE3D to show that it's awesome. Perhaps even kick off a bit of an open source game engine arms race where we all win.
Not believing in evolution doesn't mean believing in creationism.
Yes, it does. You're a fucking moron and just like Ron Paul have no idea what you're talking about. Go back to your Ron Paul cult and leave the sane people alone.
It's probably as good as anything out there that's open source. Especially if they already have guys with experience working with it, which seems to be the case.
What's really the alternative? Irrlicht maybe?
So you think a 3DS Max shop like Blizzard has to sit down and think if they're going to use 3DS Max for their next game or they just decide that they're going to do Starcraft 2 and that OF COURSE they're going to use the tools that they're comfortable with and already trained on?
How about any big 3D feature studio? Sure they might need to identify some supplemental tools (or some custom plugs/scripts) to work with Maya, but it's not like they're going to even think about throwing out all their existing tools for a new project.
And, as someone already said, OF COURSE you're going to use a specific tool if the whole point of doing your project is to promote a specific tool or tool chain. These guys are out to prove the viability of open source tools in fields that are dominated by closed source, proprietary tools and their 3D modeling and animation software of choice is Blender.
I finally sat down to really learn Blender this week and it's actually really, really nice. A little bit weird (coming from a background in Maya), but I absolutely LOVE it compared to something like 3DS. It's got a great range of tools (video editor, audio editor, etc) in addition to the core modeling and animation stuff and if you're looking to do any 3D work for cheap (or you just love open source) I see no reason for it not to figure prominently in your pipeline.
I haven't seen a single person install Linux all year.
You should come out of the basement more often. Your mom installed Kubuntu upstairs 4 months ago.
Not really. A sensible person looks at each case individually. Obviously Ron Paul doesn't feel that the evidence for evolution is enough to support it, but that doesn't mean he'll come to the same conclusion in other cases. Of course, this depends on the assumption that Dr. Paul is a sensible person who evaluates each issue on its own merits, but I try to give people the benefit of the doubt.
Then he is a complete and total idiot. If you look at his other positions you'll see that clearly he doesn't have a lot of sense and that he's "right" on the war (possibly his only correct position) probably for the wrong reasons, much like Pat Buchanan.
secularism is no guarantee of liberty.
No, nothing is. But it's a damn good start. You'll notice that the United States was founded by secularists, many (most?) of them to one degree or another were religious themselves. While I'm all for the complete elimination of religion, it's the secular ideals of the Enlightenment that gave rise to any liberty we have managed to achieve in the United States.
Religion is no guarantee of tyranny
No, but it certainly is a good start.
Ron Paul being a creationist is completely irrelevant to his ability to be a good president.
This is complete bullshit. If he can't accept facts based on evidence when it is the most solid any human has ever witnessed how can anyone expect him to rationally handle situations where the facts are less certain and the evidence more nuanced? Being a creationist should bar anyone from becoming president. Not because it is their religion but because it is profoundly stupid.
If we should be in support of exporting anything (except goods MADE IN USA) it should be secularism. Liberty and democracy will follow from that.
And GP: It's kind of sad that it took a lunatic like Ron Paul to finally see something so blatantly obvious, but congratulations anyway. I sincerely hope you are not supporting him though. The guy is an anarchist, creationist, and at the very least a promoter of racists.
I'd write up a look back at another crappy Dvorak year, but it'd be too depressing.
Bullshit, there is so much fucking demand for work right now that we have millions of people working TWO part-time jobs (or more) making minimum wage or damn near it because employers don't want to pay full-time benefits and don't have to. You are an unbelievable moron and I can't believe we let idiots like you live.
I hate unions, I think they're by and large full of selfish, greedy people that don't give a damn about anybody not in a union.
Even if everyone in a union was a greedy, selfish bastard (compared to what, the studio execs making millions of dollars a year?) they raise wages for everyone, even those who aren't in a union because non-union workers will just jump ship to work at a union shop if they can make more money there. If you can't understand that you are a complete and total moron.
You'd think that if the purpose were not to make it easy to commit election fraud, and you'd be right. If only the world were that good a place.
Has miguel proclaimed this new "standard" even more excellent or perfect or whatever yet?
Maybe he was pointing out that even if Linux is horribly complicated to install and setup (it's not) it's still better than running vista, which you will know after spending way too much to buy a computer with it pre-installed.
In one issue of the Ron Paul Survival Report, which he had published since 1985, he called former U.S. representative Barbara Jordan a "fraud" and a "half-educated victimologist." In another issue, he cited reports that 85 percent of all black men in Washington, D.C., are arrested at some point: "Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the 'criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." And under the headline "Terrorist Update," he wrote: "If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."
Can one of you idiots supporting Ron Paul please attempt to explain away comments like that? Because the rest of us can't get enough of the entertainment provided by your stupidity.
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