And the newest one has text entry, but it doesn't support tab completion and only pops up when you start typing... but only if you have certain parts of the dialog focused. Not to mention all the space it wasted. The worst part is, who are they even targeting if this were a pitch at new users? It's even worse than the stock mac dialog, so there's no way they're targeting mac users. And it definitely can't be aimed at windows users.
The only reason I can see for them to do it is to tie gimp into gnome more tightly. And as far as I'm concerned gimp is dead if that's the direction they want to take it.
Why doesn't the installer just ask you which you want with the "Photoshop" style selected by default? Changing the default would effectively eliminate the GIMP configuration (even if it took a while and technically still existed) and after a while using it I actually like it a lot better than Photoshop.
Though I'm seriously considering going back over this whole gtk2.6 file dialog bullshit. And I don't even have a system that runs it natively.
I could! It's the reason we're stuck with these fucking horrible file dialogs in the newer releases of GIMP. And yes they are bad enough to stop using GIMP. When will someone PLEASE front port the old ones?
Doesn't do anything like that to me. Just pops up the error dialog. The tab's history doesn't seem effected at all.
Does anyone know if it does that on windows or something? Or in a really old build? Because I've never encountered that and don't understand where it could come from.
What counts as an "unrecognized URL"? Because it must mean something completely different to you than it does to me. Also, where's the "Tools|Read Mail" menu?
You mean to say "no state income tax". This applies to all of you who keep saying "no state tax" like a bunch of idiots. Just because the state does not directly tax income does not mean that there are no taxes from the state.
So maybe what we really need are enforced laws preventing anyone running windows from connecting to the internet. And before you bill gates fanbois get your panties all in a bunch, the same law should apply to any other software manufacturer's product that is installed on sufficiently high numbers of machines and so easily compremised.
Riddle me this, Batman. From the perspective of advertisers' profits, what's the difference between me watching a television program with the ads removed and walking away from the TV for some championship thumb twiddling during commercial breaks?
You, like everyone else around here doesn't seem to like Firefly, completely miss the point. Firefly wasn't a sci-fi series and didn't try to be. It was a western-themed adventure drama in space.
Adobe should relax about losing their trademark. I bet they'd much rather have "photoshop" used as a verb and become generic than have "gimp" used in the same context, since then it would be The GIMP and not their product that had become the Kneenex of kleenex.
I had to use OSX for about a third of the work I did over the last three years at school. For all the big talk by Apple fanboys of the great UI on a Mac it lacks almost every feature that I find useful in a desktop interface, with the exception being that it does in fact display graphics.
There are so many things wrong with OSX, but here is a short list to get you started.
1) No sloppy focus or auto-raise.
2) No virtual desktops.
3) No easy way to access installed applications if they do not have an icon on the bar or appear in the recently used applications menu, which as often as not did NOT include the applications I needed to use on the system.
4) The icon bar mixes icons representing actively running applications with those that are links to starting the application.
5) It is annoying to switch between multiple applications, particularly with so many using several individual windows rather than an MDI interface. This is a problem compounded by the use of the unified menu bar for all applications. And one that would be much less of a hassle if they had a virtual desktop system. And no apple fanboys, getting the privilege of paying 30$ for a third party addon to do it doesn't count.
6) It is ugly. Sure Apple might have some decent display technology, but their style is something I definitely don't want to have to look at every day.
7) Annoying Apple users who think that the only way someone could not like their system of choice is if they haven't used it. I've used Macs plenty, and in a production environment would probably take them over Windows. But the only place I might use one over Linux is if I were running Shake, which is exclusively a cost issue because of the huge discount at which Apple sells the OSX version.
Not a comprehensive list by any stretch of the imagination. But I'll leave it at that and chalk this AC up as someone who's never used a desktop interface that actually lets you do anything, let alone allowing you to do those things easily.
That's the only issue I've ever had with the middle-click copy. I'm sure there's a way to select without overwriting the buffer, but I've never bothered to find a way to do it. Which is why it's nice that you still have the ability to use keyboard shortcuts, that at least in KDE copy to a different buffer.
You really should try getting used to the middle click, it's super nice even if you only use it as an occasional addition to the keyboard functionality.
Of course most of my text editing is done in vim, so I don't really need to highlight anything to replace it.
Is there something wrong with your mouse hand that it can't handle 3 buttons while the other can handle 100+? If you don't like the middle-click copy (which you should, since it's very nice) you can always use the windows standard shortcuts. I've never had a problem using those between different applications.
But then I guess if limited functionality is your thing, maybe you should just stick with your mac. But I much prefer a system geared towards easy use and powerful configuration without having to jump through hoops designed for invalids.
Mac zealot mods can now feel free to mod me down. I think my karma can take it.
Exactly! This has particularly become a problem with apps like The GIMP using the new gtk file dialogs that are disgustingly backasswards and inferior in functionality to the old file dialogs, which other than some odd bugs that didn't really hamper usage and their general ugly style, were really quite nice to use.
KDE is already so far ahead of windows or mac on the desktop that it's laughable any time someone makes a comment like this. Though a lot of the features that make a KDE desktop so superior to windows or mac are things that are standard with most, if not all, *nix desktops, such as sloppy focus, auto-raise, drop to back, and virtual desktops. It also doesn't hurt that KDE looks great.
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With it's puny resolution would you want to?
The only reason I can see for them to do it is to tie gimp into gnome more tightly. And as far as I'm concerned gimp is dead if that's the direction they want to take it.
Though I'm seriously considering going back over this whole gtk2.6 file dialog bullshit. And I don't even have a system that runs it natively.
I could! It's the reason we're stuck with these fucking horrible file dialogs in the newer releases of GIMP. And yes they are bad enough to stop using GIMP. When will someone PLEASE front port the old ones?
True. Still doesn't screw up the tab history though. I don't see what this guy is going on about.
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What if his mother sold her story to an author and then licensed the made-for-tv movie rights?
Does anyone know if it does that on windows or something? Or in a really old build? Because I've never encountered that and don't understand where it could come from.
It's reload in every webbrowser, isn't it? I can't think of one where that isn't...
What counts as an "unrecognized URL"? Because it must mean something completely different to you than it does to me. Also, where's the "Tools|Read Mail" menu?
Ok, so really I meant look down to play Gameboy. Sorry for the poor communication.
You mean to say "no state income tax". This applies to all of you who keep saying "no state tax" like a bunch of idiots. Just because the state does not directly tax income does not mean that there are no taxes from the state.
So maybe what we really need are enforced laws preventing anyone running windows from connecting to the internet. And before you bill gates fanbois get your panties all in a bunch, the same law should apply to any other software manufacturer's product that is installed on sufficiently high numbers of machines and so easily compremised.
Riddle me this, Batman. From the perspective of advertisers' profits, what's the difference between me watching a television program with the ads removed and walking away from the TV for some championship thumb twiddling during commercial breaks?
I prefer Vimtux. He's so much tastier.
Those who can't teach post on /. trying to sound authoritative and informed.
You, like everyone else around here doesn't seem to like Firefly, completely miss the point. Firefly wasn't a sci-fi series and didn't try to be. It was a western-themed adventure drama in space.
Adobe should relax about losing their trademark. I bet they'd much rather have "photoshop" used as a verb and become generic than have "gimp" used in the same context, since then it would be The GIMP and not their product that had become the Kneenex of kleenex.
I'm confused though... how can the "new version" be "due" on Friday but also in May? Are we skipping April this year?
There are so many things wrong with OSX, but here is a short list to get you started.
1) No sloppy focus or auto-raise.
2) No virtual desktops.
3) No easy way to access installed applications if they do not have an icon on the bar or appear in the recently used applications menu, which as often as not did NOT include the applications I needed to use on the system.
4) The icon bar mixes icons representing actively running applications with those that are links to starting the application.
5) It is annoying to switch between multiple applications, particularly with so many using several individual windows rather than an MDI interface. This is a problem compounded by the use of the unified menu bar for all applications. And one that would be much less of a hassle if they had a virtual desktop system. And no apple fanboys, getting the privilege of paying 30$ for a third party addon to do it doesn't count.
6) It is ugly. Sure Apple might have some decent display technology, but their style is something I definitely don't want to have to look at every day.
7) Annoying Apple users who think that the only way someone could not like their system of choice is if they haven't used it. I've used Macs plenty, and in a production environment would probably take them over Windows. But the only place I might use one over Linux is if I were running Shake, which is exclusively a cost issue because of the huge discount at which Apple sells the OSX version.
Not a comprehensive list by any stretch of the imagination. But I'll leave it at that and chalk this AC up as someone who's never used a desktop interface that actually lets you do anything, let alone allowing you to do those things easily.
You really should try getting used to the middle click, it's super nice even if you only use it as an occasional addition to the keyboard functionality.
Of course most of my text editing is done in vim, so I don't really need to highlight anything to replace it.
So it's ironic that gnome claims to be easy to use but isn't?
But then I guess if limited functionality is your thing, maybe you should just stick with your mac. But I much prefer a system geared towards easy use and powerful configuration without having to jump through hoops designed for invalids.
Mac zealot mods can now feel free to mod me down. I think my karma can take it.
Exactly! This has particularly become a problem with apps like The GIMP using the new gtk file dialogs that are disgustingly backasswards and inferior in functionality to the old file dialogs, which other than some odd bugs that didn't really hamper usage and their general ugly style, were really quite nice to use.
KDE is already so far ahead of windows or mac on the desktop that it's laughable any time someone makes a comment like this. Though a lot of the features that make a KDE desktop so superior to windows or mac are things that are standard with most, if not all, *nix desktops, such as sloppy focus, auto-raise, drop to back, and virtual desktops. It also doesn't hurt that KDE looks great.