What brought that on? You asked who gives a crap. I give a crap.
All I'm saying is that if we want to help Mozilla take a chunk out of Microsoft's dominance of the web & email market, a good look and feel will help with that goal. I think Thunderbird and Firebird are on their way towards this goal.
If that's not your goal, then fine. But then you'll just have to put up with Microsoft's control over many internet technologies.
but who gives a crap about what Mozilla looks like when it's very easy to make your own or modify a theme?
Making my own theme may be easy, but making a GOOD theme isn't very easy. A good theme/UI is essential, because I it's annoying as hell to have to spend time guessing which button or which option under which menu does the thing I need.
My time is precious, and I need to spend it using the application, not modifying the application.
If we want Mozilla to be more widely adapted, a consistant look/feel would definately help.
Looking out for the company's best interests, outside of your own small role, shows that you are interested in the company doing well and, even if nothing comes of it, will help when promotion time comes around.
Sadly, this isn't the reality in many companies. In my experience, initiative may be encouraged on paper, but it's frequently discouraged by culture.
Many security problems are known, but are ignored for political reasons. The person ignoring the problem may very well be your supervisor, or an entrenched senior employee; meaning that it won't help when promotion time comes around.
You're probably thinking, "Better to resign then work in that sort of environment", but this guy is a junior employee, the job market is still pretty harsh.
melting them down and pouring them into a chemical soup is in fact worse for the environment that if they were just thrown out
You're missing a critical piece of the puzzle there.
Recyling deals with the disposal of materials and the reuse of those materials. Throwing away just deals with the disposal part.
Recycling is pointless if the materials don't get used again.
Recycling can be part of the manufacturing process. If you melt down a bunch of aluminum cans, you don't need to mine aluminum from the earth.
Recycling of some materials (especially plastic) does create a chemical soup (who said otherwise?). But the same thing happens when you manufacture new things. Ever wonder how much chemical soup is produced converting some crude oil into your coke bottle?
I remember when AOL bought Netscape, they bought it mostly for the value of the Netscape.com portal; and didn't care about the browser too much.
The netscape.com portal still has some value, even if it has lost value over the last number of years.
When they split off the Netscape browser project, they probably reserved the right to keep using 'Netscape' in reference to their own online content...
Let's take the name of a well-known web browser and name our Internet service after it!
Netscape is already an Internet service. Netscape has also been a web portal for 6 years or more (before AOL bought it). I rarely use it, but apparently it's pretty popular in some circles.
However, there was one adapter (PS2->AT or serial->ps2, i forget which) that we charged ~$50 for when it was listed as $.50 cost in the computer...
That sounds familiar. Friend of mine gave me an old computer, so I went to CompUSA and looking for a PS2 -> AT adapter, and it was over $30. Holy fark! Too expensive for my tastes.
So to save money, I decided to look around some dumpsters at some of the computer businesses around here. Lo and behold, I found my adapter. Works great! Free!
Flooding, earthquakes in Japan, drought, giant hurricanes on the east coast, fire..
Have all been happening since the beginning of time. It just that the US media usually only covers stories if: They affect the US, they provide a spectacle on a slow news day.
Nearly every year, hurricanes as powerful as Isabel cause havok on populated islands, millions of people die from drought, floods destroy entire villages, but it's not the sort of thing that usually makes headline news.
Here I am thinking NASA & co was tracking everyhing bigger than a tennis ball in outer space. How come this thing just goes in without anyone noticing it?
Space is big. It's impossible to track everything bigger then a tennis ball. NASA does try to track some objects that are in orbit, but they NASA never claimed to be tracking "everything".
We've been swamped with news of some other meter which had like a 1^-1000000 chance to hit and this thing just charges in?
Don't confuse NASA with the Media coverage of NASA. NASA has reported other important finds which were not covered by the media. This one story was blown out of proportion.
The media thinks you're obsessed with the OJ Simpson trial, Ben & Jen, Laci Peterson, Princess Di, etc.
"This post was brought to you by 'McDonalds: Our Food tastes horrible and makes you fat, but it's cool!'... and by... 'The Department of Homeland Security: Your safety is important to us. Now, stop asking hard questions.'"
The satellite can be used to help fix Nigeria's problems.
Many of Nigeria's social problems have roots in environmental problems. You can more effectively combat soil erosion, drought, deforestation, fires, etc. if you can see the big picture, in combination with other strategies.
Space faring nations use satellite technology all the time, imagine how hard it would have been to prepare for Hurricane Isabel if we couldn't track it using our satellites.
Also, there should be some more imediate economic payoff. Imagine how much money they could gain by reducing oil theft.
I've seen them in the initial contract for every job offer I've had, and I have never had a problem with having them removed.
Some people are luckier, more in demand, or have better negotiating skills.
I have known people who got them removed, but that was back in 1999/2000 during the boom.
Since then, I have known several out-of-work people who have unsuccessfully tried to remove the clause. Several lost the job to someone else because of this.
If you've been out of work for a year, and then you loose a job offer because you tried to negotiate the IP clauses, you really start to rethink your strategy. (No, it wasn't me).
Sure, you could work at McDonalds, but they'll violate your rights with the drug tests and overtime abuse.
Put another way, are you willing to sell out title to your potential future ventures for the "comfort" of short-term job security?
If you think it's about "comfort", you're probably not very familar with the dilemma.
For most people, it's not a matter of "comfort", it's a matter of "Getting a job after a year of unemployment", "Not having to sell the house", "Feed the kids", "Switching industries and starting at the bottom", "Working at McDonalds".
You make it seem like these these clauses are new. They've been in every employment contract I've seen for the last 8 years; and have been around for much, much longer then that.
The problem was the XFree drivers: trying to use the open-source drivers - regardless of distro - did exactly the same thing; whereas nVidia's closed-source drivers worked perfectly.
Ah yes, that's precisely the same problem. The Nvidia drivers work just dandy, the OSS drivers don't work.
Thanks for the reminder, maybe I'll try to hunt down that bug tonight.
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Imagine hacking someones glasses to say "Kill your boss....kill your boss" Or, Kill yourself".
Yeah, I tried these glasses on once, and all of a sudden I could remember the lyrics to every song by Judas Priest...
But remember that we don't want to scare them!!
*sigh*
What brought that on? You asked who gives a crap. I give a crap.
All I'm saying is that if we want to help Mozilla take a chunk out of Microsoft's dominance of the web & email market, a good look and feel will help with that goal. I think Thunderbird and Firebird are on their way towards this goal.
If that's not your goal, then fine. But then you'll just have to put up with Microsoft's control over many internet technologies.
but who gives a crap about what Mozilla looks like when it's very easy to make your own or modify a theme?
Making my own theme may be easy, but making a GOOD theme isn't very easy. A good theme/UI is essential, because I it's annoying as hell to have to spend time guessing which button or which option under which menu does the thing I need.
My time is precious, and I need to spend it using the application, not modifying the application.
If we want Mozilla to be more widely adapted, a consistant look/feel would definately help.
First impressions matter.
Looking out for the company's best interests, outside of your own small role, shows that you are interested in the company doing well and, even if nothing comes of it, will help when promotion time comes around.
Sadly, this isn't the reality in many companies. In my experience, initiative may be encouraged on paper, but it's frequently discouraged by culture.
Many security problems are known, but are ignored for political reasons. The person ignoring the problem may very well be your supervisor, or an entrenched senior employee; meaning that it won't help when promotion time comes around.
You're probably thinking, "Better to resign then work in that sort of environment", but this guy is a junior employee, the job market is still pretty harsh.
I informed them (being from a small town in the middle of logging country)
The shock continued when I also stated in fact most paper comes from trees planted just for that purpose
Do you have facts to back this part up?
Growing up in a small town in logging country doesn't really make you a paper expert.
And who claimed that paper comes from old growth forest? Are you sure you aren't mixing up the messages?
melting them down and pouring them into a chemical soup is in fact worse for the environment that if they were just thrown out
You're missing a critical piece of the puzzle there.
Recyling deals with the disposal of materials and the reuse of those materials. Throwing away just deals with the disposal part.
Recycling is pointless if the materials don't get used again.
Recycling can be part of the manufacturing process. If you melt down a bunch of aluminum cans, you don't need to mine aluminum from the earth.
Recycling of some materials (especially plastic) does create a chemical soup (who said otherwise?). But the same thing happens when you manufacture new things. Ever wonder how much chemical soup is produced converting some crude oil into your coke bottle?
Yeah, back in my day, if we needed directions we had to slaughter a goat and wiggle the intestines!
No thanks, id rather have native drivers for my hardware. Not some sort of kludgy hack to make windows drivers work.
Are you going to write those native drivers? Many of them do not exist today.
I'd rather have a kludgy hack then no drivers.
No no no, they said REFINED knowledge...
sheesh. Some people!
I remember when AOL bought Netscape, they bought it mostly for the value of the Netscape.com portal; and didn't care about the browser too much.
The netscape.com portal still has some value, even if it has lost value over the last number of years.
When they split off the Netscape browser project, they probably reserved the right to keep using 'Netscape' in reference to their own online content...
Let's take the name of a well-known web browser and name our Internet service after it!
Netscape is already an Internet service. Netscape has also been a web portal for 6 years or more (before AOL bought it). I rarely use it, but apparently it's pretty popular in some circles.
I think you need some "secret" Dilbert training.
Just don't let the boss catch you!
Then go ahead and pay their inflated prices.
But many computer bits can be had for free, if you are willing to look. Especially true for older, & free computers.
It didn't take me more then 10 minutes.
However, there was one adapter (PS2->AT or serial->ps2, i forget which) that we charged ~$50 for when it was listed as $.50 cost in the computer...
That sounds familiar. Friend of mine gave me an old computer, so I went to CompUSA and looking for a PS2 -> AT adapter, and it was over $30. Holy fark! Too expensive for my tastes.
So to save money, I decided to look around some dumpsters at some of the computer businesses around here. Lo and behold, I found my adapter. Works great! Free!
Flooding, earthquakes in Japan, drought, giant hurricanes on the east coast, fire..
Have all been happening since the beginning of time. It just that the US media usually only covers stories if: They affect the US, they provide a spectacle on a slow news day.
Nearly every year, hurricanes as powerful as Isabel cause havok on populated islands, millions of people die from drought, floods destroy entire villages, but it's not the sort of thing that usually makes headline news.
Here I am thinking NASA & co was tracking everyhing bigger than a tennis ball in outer space. How come this thing just goes in without anyone noticing it?
... and by ... 'The Department of Homeland Security: Your safety is important to us. Now, stop asking hard questions.'"
Space is big. It's impossible to track everything bigger then a tennis ball. NASA does try to track some objects that are in orbit, but they NASA never claimed to be tracking "everything".
We've been swamped with news of some other meter which had like a 1^-1000000 chance to hit and this thing just charges in?
Don't confuse NASA with the Media coverage of NASA. NASA has reported other important finds which were not covered by the media. This one story was blown out of proportion.
The media thinks you're obsessed with the OJ Simpson trial, Ben & Jen, Laci Peterson, Princess Di, etc.
"This post was brought to you by 'McDonalds: Our Food tastes horrible and makes you fat, but it's cool!'
The satellite can be used to help fix Nigeria's problems.
Many of Nigeria's social problems have roots in environmental problems. You can more effectively combat soil erosion, drought, deforestation, fires, etc. if you can see the big picture, in combination with other strategies.
Space faring nations use satellite technology all the time, imagine how hard it would have been to prepare for Hurricane Isabel if we couldn't track it using our satellites.
Also, there should be some more imediate economic payoff. Imagine how much money they could gain by reducing oil theft.
What's an "ARPA", and why wont Network Solutions let me register one!?!?!
I could register one for you, but then I'd have to kill you.
Not sure, but it starts somewhere around "not taking a job in the corporate world".
Some people do that, but they're probably not on Slashdot. Rather, they're hiking through the Himilayas or Patagonia right now.
I've seen them in the initial contract for every job offer I've had, and I have never had a problem with having them removed.
Some people are luckier, more in demand, or have better negotiating skills.
I have known people who got them removed, but that was back in 1999/2000 during the boom.
Since then, I have known several out-of-work people who have unsuccessfully tried to remove the clause. Several lost the job to someone else because of this.
If you've been out of work for a year, and then you loose a job offer because you tried to negotiate the IP clauses, you really start to rethink your strategy. (No, it wasn't me).
Sure, you could work at McDonalds, but they'll violate your rights with the drug tests and overtime abuse.
Which rights are you willing to sacrifice?
Put another way, are you willing to sell out title to your potential future ventures for the "comfort" of short-term job security?
If you think it's about "comfort", you're probably not very familar with the dilemma.
For most people, it's not a matter of "comfort", it's a matter of "Getting a job after a year of unemployment", "Not having to sell the house", "Feed the kids", "Switching industries and starting at the bottom", "Working at McDonalds".
You make it seem like these these clauses are new. They've been in every employment contract I've seen for the last 8 years; and have been around for much, much longer then that.
You need to pass an option to the kernel like 'xserver=vesa' or something similar.
Look elsewhere in this thread for the words 'xserver' or 'cheat codes' to get you started.
The problem was the XFree drivers: trying to use the open-source drivers - regardless of distro - did exactly the same thing; whereas nVidia's closed-source drivers worked perfectly.
Ah yes, that's precisely the same problem. The Nvidia drivers work just dandy, the OSS drivers don't work.
Thanks for the reminder, maybe I'll try to hunt down that bug tonight.
Yes, but the OOo folks have said that it is production-ready. I think they did at RC3.
Perhaps I am confused, but if it was production-ready, then why is it called a Release Candidate?