[...]the legal system in this country presumes innocence until proof of guilt, so why should an innocent citizen be treated as though they are a piece of livestock or a sex offender? Heck, nominally, the monarch is the head of state, and yet this plan from her current government will compel the queen to carry an ID card!
Maybe the simplest view then would be that a person who has an ID card just... has an ID card. Which allows them to identify themselves if needed. If you want to feel treated as a criminal -or a cow- because of this, go ahead. Didn't you ever stop and think that maybe other people already thought about this and came out with better answers than "we want to see everyone while they sleep, we are evil"?
Seriously, I know people is bastards, and some people is _stupid_ bastards, but sometimes it pays to lay off the paranoia and think of the state as a force of improvement. Sometimes. After all, in the occasions where the government would be so rotten as to misuse the information contained in the IDs, you'd be fucked anyway, and they wouldn't need it.
Maybe he didn't think it would make any difference? Forking PHP wouldn't change the countless developers who don't know nor care about security, the thousands of servers with PHP already there, plus it'd have to get a sizable team to carry it forward. Seriously, if you really want a secure language for the web, you don't stop at PHP.
Maybe what he cared more about was security, not the language.
1) No, what I meant is "the information is already out there". If most people have those, I see that it's a -minor- inconvenience to get a new one, but it's nothing the government doesn't have already. 2) No we can't, although assuming it could be a good bet. And I said "the equivalent of 20 euro" not because I knew about the 45 pound figure, but because that's what I'd have to pay for my card here in Italy. Just a guesstimate. 3) This is a good point: if they already have the information, they might use it better. On the opposite hand, we on the "community" usually say "can't fix this, much better to build a new one", with similar results. 4) This is a good remark 5) As I said, I live in Italy. I've had a compulsory ID all my life. I have two now (two citizenships). I've never noticed the governments persecuting me. If you don't like it, that's your taste, but it's not a good reason. The reasons you cite are, though I'd say that in that case, Britain has bigger problems than ID cards. Finally, you mention Germany, Spain and Italy (among others) as if those countries had something similar or negative in themselves. I don't see Spain doing very badly, neither do I see Germany drowning. I don't see either how these states are worse off in our pursuit of happiness than the "Nein to ID" club.
As for the problems of the NHS, what can I say? I don't live there, and thankfully I don't pay their taxes.
I realise that this might be shocking to people who don't want compulsory IDs, but the fact is that the government is so rotten as to persecute the people, they will do that regardless of ID cards.
It's a tax on existence. At what level would you like the State to start punishing people up for being unable or unwilling to pay it?
Ooh, now I'm all scared. I've had at least one compulsory ID all my life (27). I have two right now, on account of having two citizenships. Nothing so far has happened to me, nor it does happen to people who can't renew it. They simply can't vote, can't participate as citizens.
1) If you don't have a passport, you need a valid form of ID to travel, like... an ID card or driver's license. Which are given by the eeebul guvmint, too. 2) I believe paying the equivalent of 20 euro over 5 or 10 years is acceptable 3) Huge databases with your data are already available to the government (driver's licenses, SSNs, credit/debit cards, TV taxes, medical insurance, etc. Pick yours). 4) Links please? It's easy to say. Blair says just the opposite in its letter. 5) Most countries under Roman right-derived laws haven't experienced economical collapse due to ID cards, their people aren't hounded like criminals, and the cards themselves are very useful for voting purposes and the like. I've personally traveled to the UK twice using my ID card (Italy), this meant I didn't have to renew my passport at an extra cost.
There are valid reasons to oppose biometric ID cards, but your post didn't make them.
I didn't "work it out", I just had a link handy to the binary - text translator. Same as that, I have the awesoma powa of Rot13 to help me when I read ASR.
And no, I never take anything I read here for granted either.
Warcraft 3 and Starcraft run just fine on WINE, and from what I know, WoW works on Cedega. Games from ID Software usually have Linux binaries. NWN has a Linux binary, too. Try again, it might surprise you.
IOW, Novell has wedged itself in a situation where they can't really exploit the potential benefits of their deal with Microsoft without getting sued by Microsoft, the FSF, or both.
Not necessarily: they could develop their own programs -or plugins, if the license requirements allow them- under different licenses to the GPL, and add value to their distribution.
So what do you call:
* A PC running linux?
a PC * A mac bootcamped into windows?
a Mac * A mac running linux?
a Mac * etc?
boh?
I'm not sure about the GP, but "personal computer" does include "Macs" for me, and is about the hardware more than the software I load on it. I do realize that for most people, PC means "with Windows", but anyway, what do most people know about PCs?
I have a similar feeling: I have no TV thanks to the Internet. I use the money I "save" (TV tax is about 100 euros a year here) to buy books, DVDs and videogames. I get my news online, I don't need shows.
That's probably what people said when Gates proclaimed IPTV in 1990, 1995, 2000 and 2007. That's the great thing about predictions, if you make them often enough they must come true...
Y'know, I still don't see flying cars anywhere near. On the other hand, it will be a cold day in Hell before I start paying attention to what Gates has to say about the Internet. His company almost missed it. MSN, hah.
What if they were califlowers? Or Polonium 290? Or Nigerian scam letters? What's that got to do with this situation? Even if they were credit card numbers and data, they're already on the wild and phished, the person who posted them on the seclists forum has the data anyway. Nuking domains isn't the solution to that problem.
Has to be said, here the Mac mini (basic) is 619,00 euro, just 20 euros more. The superdrive model comes at 799,00 euro. And you can usually get them for less at sales (last Christmas, I believe a big shop in Italy was selling the basic model for 550 euros or so).
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Nah, with cool n' quiet we'll be able to run it at half of its power and clock speed. Like an Athlon 3000, for example, only more expensive.
Or maybe, just maybe, on reading the article we'd find he did "fork" PHP, through Hardened-PHP and Suhosin. The wonders never cease.
Maybe the simplest view then would be that a person who has an ID card just... has an ID card. Which allows them to identify themselves if needed. If you want to feel treated as a criminal -or a cow- because of this, go ahead. Didn't you ever stop and think that maybe other people already thought about this and came out with better answers than "we want to see everyone while they sleep, we are evil"?
Seriously, I know people is bastards, and some people is _stupid_ bastards, but sometimes it pays to lay off the paranoia and think of the state as a force of improvement. Sometimes. After all, in the occasions where the government would be so rotten as to misuse the information contained in the IDs, you'd be fucked anyway, and they wouldn't need it.
Maybe he didn't think it would make any difference? Forking PHP wouldn't change the countless developers who don't know nor care about security, the thousands of servers with PHP already there, plus it'd have to get a sizable team to carry it forward. Seriously, if you really want a secure language for the web, you don't stop at PHP.
Maybe what he cared more about was security, not the language.
1) No, what I meant is "the information is already out there". If most people have those, I see that it's a -minor- inconvenience to get a new one, but it's nothing the government doesn't have already.
2) No we can't, although assuming it could be a good bet. And I said "the equivalent of 20 euro" not because I knew about the 45 pound figure, but because that's what I'd have to pay for my card here in Italy. Just a guesstimate.
3) This is a good point: if they already have the information, they might use it better. On the opposite hand, we on the "community" usually say "can't fix this, much better to build a new one", with similar results.
4) This is a good remark
5) As I said, I live in Italy. I've had a compulsory ID all my life. I have two now (two citizenships). I've never noticed the governments persecuting me. If you don't like it, that's your taste, but it's not a good reason. The reasons you cite are, though I'd say that in that case, Britain has bigger problems than ID cards. Finally, you mention Germany, Spain and Italy (among others) as if those countries had something similar or negative in themselves. I don't see Spain doing very badly, neither do I see Germany drowning. I don't see either how these states are worse off in our pursuit of happiness than the "Nein to ID" club.
As for the problems of the NHS, what can I say? I don't live there, and thankfully I don't pay their taxes.
I realise that this might be shocking to people who don't want compulsory IDs, but the fact is that the government is so rotten as to persecute the people, they will do that regardless of ID cards.
Ooh, now I'm all scared. I've had at least one compulsory ID all my life (27). I have two right now, on account of having two citizenships. Nothing so far has happened to me, nor it does happen to people who can't renew it. They simply can't vote, can't participate as citizens.
1) If you don't have a passport, you need a valid form of ID to travel, like... an ID card or driver's license. Which are given by the eeebul guvmint, too.
2) I believe paying the equivalent of 20 euro over 5 or 10 years is acceptable
3) Huge databases with your data are already available to the government (driver's licenses, SSNs, credit/debit cards, TV taxes, medical insurance, etc. Pick yours).
4) Links please? It's easy to say. Blair says just the opposite in its letter.
5) Most countries under Roman right-derived laws haven't experienced economical collapse due to ID cards, their people aren't hounded like criminals, and the cards themselves are very useful for voting purposes and the like. I've personally traveled to the UK twice using my ID card (Italy), this meant I didn't have to renew my passport at an extra cost.
There are valid reasons to oppose biometric ID cards, but your post didn't make them.
He should just post his gripes in broken English to Slashdot, like everyone else does. Sheesh.
I didn't "work it out", I just had a link handy to the binary - text translator. Same as that, I have the awesoma powa of Rot13 to help me when I read ASR.
And no, I never take anything I read here for granted either.
The binary says:
Aristotle meant "man is an animal that lives in the polis", i.e. that shares the customs of the other citizen, that votes, speaks, fights, etc.
You know, the Firehose is there for exactly that reason.
I was about to post the same. A very similar scenario to this one. Essentially, they want sane mad people.
Not for the Italian google mail service: it takes me directly to the signup page.
Was Netscape 8 better than Netscape 7? Following that assertion, all sequels would *of course* be better than their predecessors.
Um... wasting development and PR money on something "most people would not know how or why to use"?
Warcraft 3 and Starcraft run just fine on WINE, and from what I know, WoW works on Cedega. Games from ID Software usually have Linux binaries. NWN has a Linux binary, too. Try again, it might surprise you.
Not necessarily: they could develop their own programs -or plugins, if the license requirements allow them- under different licenses to the GPL, and add value to their distribution.
Well, I think this is called "advertising", you know, where you try to make your product look better than the competition. Crazy stuff, I know.
If this was about fair reporting, the ads would have said which platform has the most games, wouldn't they?
So what do you call:
* A PC running linux?
a PC
* A mac bootcamped into windows?
a Mac
* A mac running linux?
a Mac
* etc?
boh?
I'm not sure about the GP, but "personal computer" does include "Macs" for me, and is about the hardware more than the software I load on it. I do realize that for most people, PC means "with Windows", but anyway, what do most people know about PCs?
I have a similar feeling: I have no TV thanks to the Internet. I use the money I "save" (TV tax is about 100 euros a year here) to buy books, DVDs and videogames. I get my news online, I don't need shows.
Y'know, I still don't see flying cars anywhere near. On the other hand, it will be a cold day in Hell before I start paying attention to what Gates has to say about the Internet. His company almost missed it. MSN, hah.
What if they were califlowers? Or Polonium 290? Or Nigerian scam letters? What's that got to do with this situation? Even if they were credit card numbers and data, they're already on the wild and phished, the person who posted them on the seclists forum has the data anyway. Nuking domains isn't the solution to that problem.
You obviously didn't read the parent comment.
Has to be said, here the Mac mini (basic) is 619,00 euro, just 20 euros more. The superdrive model comes at 799,00 euro. And you can usually get them for less at sales (last Christmas, I believe a big shop in Italy was selling the basic model for 550 euros or so).