I'm sure the (g)nomes knew the business opportunities already back then!
Maybe they even contacted them aliens (being small and everything) to do the hardest part!
As a user who has used both (Eclipse and IntelliJ) the IntelliJ performs better.
When I say 'performs' I don't just mean responsiviness, but the IDE's ability to make you more productive. I love the code-parsing-on-the-fly approach of Idea. It's fully customizable and www.intellij.org has many plugins to go. It supports EJB's, servlets, jsp, live templates, code completion, custom syntax highlightning, code inspection, etc...
They had a xmas offer (valid until 15.1.2003) for 200$!! Compare that to JBuilder pricing, with Idea you get more features (sans GUI builder) with fraction of the price. --
It's not about preinstall. It's about the fact that M$ deliberately includes an outdated & mangled (something like 5 years now) version of Java to make it look bad. Java and Linux are threat to microsoft, so it's good for M$ when another frustrated users curses 'that fu**ing java' again when it crashes on microsoft's ancient runtime.
Think it like this: how would you feel if all the games would preinstall some buggy old beta version of the display driver for the hardware that your company is manufacturing. If you do this, you should at least inform the users that something better is available.
Funny, if I click to open a pdf-document (without acroreader installed) my XP offers to search the right tool from the internet. I think it should behave the same way if double click on that *.jar - package.
A given location has an average mobile phone density. If it triples (or tenfolds) over a short period of time can you say there's a traffic jam? Just guessing...
Buy a 1GB microdrive (~200$ in states?) or one of those new 3GB CF's. Should be enough for pocket size computer, eh?
I admit that it's a bit pricey, but hey, the geekness factor is hard to beat!
Have to agree with that! IDEA is so far the best IDE I have ever used, and the only thing that it lacks is the visual designer (which is planned to be in the next version) Great refactoring support, Remote debugging, live templates... I tend to hit ctrl+space very often nowadays =)
BTW: if they manage to include the designer in the next version... it's byebye JBuilder.
BTW2: Did I mention that it supports J2EE & servlet debugging? =)
redshift-systems wrote: The majority of your (Americans)population would not even know what the Capital of Canada is.
Actually, according to a study I read few weeks ago 40% of americans didn't know where Washington is. (some 800 people 17...25 of age where questioned)
BTW: Am I the only one, but those americans that talk about the superior military power and world defending and freedom are starting to sound just like little Hitlers...
Kragg wrote:
- can release the final product as interpreted, with slow execution speed
Hmmm... goto the http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/bench/heapsor t/ - you'll see that the gcc version is about 8 times faster. Now, get the sources and compile them yourself. Run three to five times to let the system stabilize then write the timings down. This is what you get:
gcc with O6 (heavy optimizations) is almost 20% faster than the equivalent java code! Yet the author of those pages reports that the difference is more like 800%?! BTW: I tried that with three different VM's the best was IBM's 1.4.0, second one JRockit's 1.4 beta and the last Sun's 1.4.1 (each about 5% slower than the previous) the java code was run with '-server' the platform (linux/windows) didn't have any significant effect on the results.
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I'm sure the (g)nomes knew the business opportunities already back then!
Maybe they even contacted them aliens (being small and everything) to do the hardest part!
1. Contact aliens to create crop circles.
2. ???
3. (Split) Profit!!!
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1. Create Crop Circles
2. ???
3. Profit!
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As a user who has used both (Eclipse and IntelliJ) the IntelliJ performs better.
When I say 'performs' I don't just mean responsiviness, but the IDE's ability to make you more productive. I love the code-parsing-on-the-fly approach of Idea. It's fully customizable and www.intellij.org has many plugins to go. It supports EJB's, servlets, jsp, live templates, code completion, custom syntax highlightning, code inspection, etc...
They had a xmas offer (valid until 15.1.2003) for 200$!! Compare that to JBuilder pricing, with Idea you get more features (sans GUI builder) with fraction of the price.
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It's not about preinstall. It's about the fact that M$ deliberately includes an outdated & mangled (something like 5 years now) version of Java to make it look bad.
Java and Linux are threat to microsoft, so it's good for M$ when another frustrated users curses 'that fu**ing java' again when it crashes on microsoft's ancient runtime.
Think it like this: how would you feel if all the games would preinstall some buggy old beta version of the display driver for the hardware that your company is manufacturing. If you do this, you should at least inform the users that something better is available.
Funny, if I click to open a pdf-document (without acroreader installed) my XP offers to search the right tool from the internet. I think it should behave the same way if double click on that *.jar - package.
A given location has an average mobile phone density. If it triples (or tenfolds) over a short period of time can you say there's a traffic jam? Just guessing...
Agreed. I'd probably throw 10$ just to make 'one good thing' today, but 120... no way.
Buy a 1GB microdrive (~200$ in states?) or one of those new 3GB CF's. Should be enough for pocket size computer, eh?
I admit that it's a bit pricey, but hey, the geekness factor is hard to beat!
Have to agree with that! IDEA is so far the best IDE I have ever used, and the only thing that it lacks is the visual designer (which is planned to be in the next version) Great refactoring support, Remote debugging, live templates... I tend to hit ctrl+space very often nowadays =)
;-) -
BTW: if they manage to include the designer in the next version... it's byebye JBuilder.
BTW2: Did I mention that it supports J2EE & servlet debugging? =)
- No, I don't work for them!
redshift-systems wrote:
The majority of your (Americans)population would not even know what the Capital of Canada is.
Actually, according to a study I read few weeks ago 40% of americans didn't know where Washington is. (some 800 people 17...25 of age where questioned)
BTW: Am I the only one, but those americans that talk about the superior military power and world defending and freedom are starting to sound just like little Hitlers...
In exactly what way does java performance suck? (if we keep the swing out of the equation)
Kragg wrote: - can release the final product as interpreted, with slow execution speed
r t/ - you'll see that the gcc version is about 8 times faster. Now, get the sources and compile them yourself. Run three to five times to let the system stabilize then write the timings down. This is what you get:
Hmmm... goto the http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/bench/heapso
gcc with O6 (heavy optimizations) is almost 20% faster than the equivalent java code! Yet the author of those pages reports that the difference is more like 800%?! BTW: I tried that with three different VM's the best was IBM's 1.4.0, second one JRockit's 1.4 beta and the last Sun's 1.4.1 (each about 5% slower than the previous) the java code was run with '-server' the platform (linux/windows) didn't have any significant effect on the results.
You are free to draw your own conclusions.