Not only that, but to whoever modded it offtopic: it's no more offtopic than communism, to which much verbiage and many modpoints are currently being devoted. In fact, cricket is arguably much more central to a typical Indian's worldview, to India-Pakistan relations and diplomacy, and many other things.
"Communism" in India really means "parties that call themselves communist parties". These parties have a major presence in two states: West Bengal, where they've been in power continously for around two decades, and Kerala, where they've more or less alternated with the Congress. They have little or no presence elsewhere. Nonetheless, pre-1991 their policies weren't all that different from other Indian parties (or put another way, other Indian parties were highly socialist, almost communist, in their economic outlook). And in recent years, the government in West Bengal has been revising its economic viewpoint to a more market-friendly version, much like the Chinese government, except the Bengali one is elected, so it may soon be communist neither economically nor politically, but only in name.
The upcoming India-Pakistan series is by no means "the first time ever". The two countries played each other regularly until the 1980s; India last visited Pakistan in 1989, and since then Pakistan visited India once, in 1998-99. They have also met at other tournaments including the world cups.
Didn't you follow the link? For those who didn't: (1) Including the new text in every place it "should" go is a lot of work, for so late in the release cycle; (2) the new XFree86 licence is likely not GPL-compatible, which causes huge problems for all distributors, not just Mandrake.
The Netherlands. Yes, I believe France has a much better system. On the other hand, the NHS in the UK is seriously stressed out, and I've been seeing news reports for years about patients in the UK (not of Indian origin) flying to India, particularly for eye surgery.
I'm an Indian, so I know how good medical care is. Right now I'm in the US, but believe me, if I had a medical problem, I'd get it treated in India, and not just for cost reasons. They know their stuff and they don't treat their patients like idiots. (It's also true that I know who the good doctors are in India, and I don't know any here.) My relatives in Europe do the same: the alternative is go through the public-healthcare lottery in Europe (get assigned a doctor who may be good or may be awful), or pay through your nose for private healthcare.
What does David Irving have to do with Edwin Black?
Excuse me, I didn't realise what the parent of your post was (it was score 0 and below my threshold). So we don't disagree.
Perhaps, like in email, it's preferable to quote in slashdot postings too, otherwise it really does look like you were replying to the original post with this subject line...
You know, the stuff about Edwin Black would be a lot more convincing if it didn't come a David Irving web site.
Sorry, my English grammar parser failed on that sentence. What were you trying to say? What does David Irving have to do with Edwin Black?
I have been to a lecture by Black and read some of his book on eugenics, and let me tell you, he has absolutely no sympathy for neo-Nazis. His entire point, both in the IBM book and in the eugenics one, was that America was complicit in some of the worst excesses of Nazi Germany.
Then why do so many professionals write English as though they were children, with all that "U 2 B"-type IM chat abbreviation?
I agree it's childish and annoying. I think it's not because they can't write/spell but because they're lazy/poor typists (I can't believe the number of professional programmers who type with two fingers), so they get into that habit for IM and personal email, and it just spills over into professional email.
the accent I associate most with the Brits is very annoying. I believe it's what you guys call Cockney.
Actually I'm not Brit - I'm Indian, temporarily living in the US. And I don't find cockney or other Brit accents annoying. Some Brits speak so clearly it's perhaps the closest thing one can get to "no accent" (Noel Coward is a good example), others are hard to follow but amusing in their way, especially if you have things like "My Fair Lady" or Monty Python's dead parrot sketch in mind.
There are quite a few accents in America that are terribly hard to understand.
Actually there's only one accent in America (or so it seems to a foreigner), though indeed it's often hard to understand. It's amazing to me that there's less variation in accent coast-to-coast in the US than between two adjacent villages in England, let alone between a London Cockney and a Yorkshireman. (And England is where the language originated after all, so I don't see how anyone can claim that there's such a thing as a One True Accent.)
This guy found a crash in qmail, too. I don't think he showed it was exploitable, so he doesn't win DJB's security guarantee prize. In fact I'm not sure DJB reacted to the news at all.
I can confirm that my digital camera (Canon, PTP protocol) works fine with gphoto2 under FreeBSD. Cameras that use the USB mass storage protocol "should" work, but YMMV.
There is GPL code in the FreeBSD kernel tree (eg, ext2fs, some pcm code, etc), it's just not compiled into the GENERIC binary kernel that the FreeBSD project actually distributes. You are free to compile it into your own kernel if you like.
There is also a fair bit of GPL code in the userland (starting with gcc), and it is distributed in binary form by the FreeBSD project, but of course the virality clause of the GPL doesn't affect that, because it's "mere aggregation".
However, if any of the code in the X libraries falls under this new license, then the FSF's interpretation of the GPL means that you wouldn't be able to link any GPLed program against the X libraries and distribute it.
The GPL makes an exception for libraries that are part of the system, and I think XFree86 qualifies as that. Similarly, it's legal to link GPL code against the Solaris X libraries, or for that matter the Solaris libc, though those aren't even free software.
To quote:
However, as a special exception, the source code distributed need not include anything that is normally distributed (in either source or binary form) with the major components (compiler, kernel, and so on) of the operating system on which the executable runs, unless that component itself accompanies the executable.
Plainly, nobody actually distributes XFree86 libraries, in either source or binary form, with their own code.
Have you tried? Many people are trying, and I personally have met several foreigners working in India, some for decades and in fields far removed from software. Anyway, it's not that easy to get a work visa in the US and it's getting harder.
and even if we could, it would be for 1/6th of what a programmer would make here!
But you can live on 1/10th what you can here in the US. So it looks like a good deal to me.
That's the point he's making when he says "FreeBSD-specific."
I can agree with saying it's not "FreeBSD-specific" but he says more than that. The statement I took issue with was "the new release of FreeBSD means absolutely nothing to OS X development." Not true: Apple themselves say FreeBSD 5 already means something to Panther.
Meanwhile he makes enough other errors. OS X isn't derived from OpenDarwin; Darwin (not OpenDarwin) is the "core" of OS X, also distributed separately by Apple, while OpenDarwin is a sort of community project to further develop Darwin. It's not "also called" DarwinBSD anywhere I've heard of (indeed, a google search turns up barely 55 hits). Its description (OpenStep+4.4-BSD) applies to Rhapsody, but Darwin (and thus MacOS X) pulls in significant contributions from the FreeBSD userland, though perhaps not so much in the kernel.
Back when they used FreeBSD 3.2, for the networking piece and presumably also for the command and library updates referred to, that was the actively maintained stable version. I don't see where in your quote it says that they're no longer merging stuff from FreeBSD.
"It is questionable whether any significant portion of the old FreeBSD-specific code remains in present-day OS X Panther. So to sum up, the new release of FreeBSD means absolutely nothing to OS X development."
Panther integrates features from state-of-the-art FreeBSD 5 into Darwin, the Open Source base of Mac OS X, to provide enhanced performance, compatibility and usability.
And in the west, several times a day trains leave Paris for Marseille, covering 800+ km in 3 hours. The first TGV track (Paris-Lyon, 2 hrs, 500+ km) decimated the air traffic on that route; the extension to Marseille has done the same to Paris-Marseille. I was reading recently that the Eurostar now has 60% market share for the Paris-London route. Of course, these (and the shinkansen) aren't maglevs, but they're pretty fast all the same -- 300 km/h. It's not a "Tokyo doesn't exist" argument, it's a "the rest of the world outside the US doesn't exist" argument.
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Not only that, but to whoever modded it offtopic: it's no more offtopic than communism, to which much verbiage and many modpoints are currently being devoted. In fact, cricket is arguably much more central to a typical Indian's worldview, to India-Pakistan relations and diplomacy, and many other things.
"Communism" in India really means "parties that call themselves communist parties". These parties have a major presence in two states: West Bengal, where they've been in power continously for around two decades, and Kerala, where they've more or less alternated with the Congress. They have little or no presence elsewhere. Nonetheless, pre-1991 their policies weren't all that different from other Indian parties (or put another way, other Indian parties were highly socialist, almost communist, in their economic outlook). And in recent years, the government in West Bengal has been revising its economic viewpoint to a more market-friendly version, much like the Chinese government, except the Bengali one is elected, so it may soon be communist neither economically nor politically, but only in name.
The upcoming India-Pakistan series is by no means "the first time ever". The two countries played each other regularly until the 1980s; India last visited Pakistan in 1989, and since then Pakistan visited India once, in 1998-99. They have also met at other tournaments including the world cups.
Didn't you follow the link? For those who didn't: (1) Including the new text in every place it "should" go is a lot of work, for so late in the release cycle; (2) the new XFree86 licence is likely not GPL-compatible, which causes huge problems for all distributors, not just Mandrake.
The Netherlands. Yes, I believe France has a much better system. On the other hand, the NHS in the UK is seriously stressed out, and I've been seeing news reports for years about patients in the UK (not of Indian origin) flying to India, particularly for eye surgery.
I'm an Indian, so I know how good medical care is. Right now I'm in the US, but believe me, if I had a medical problem, I'd get it treated in India, and not just for cost reasons. They know their stuff and they don't treat their patients like idiots. (It's also true that I know who the good doctors are in India, and I don't know any here.) My relatives in Europe do the same: the alternative is go through the public-healthcare lottery in Europe (get assigned a doctor who may be good or may be awful), or pay through your nose for private healthcare.
What does David Irving have to do with Edwin Black?
Excuse me, I didn't realise what the parent of your post was (it was score 0 and below my threshold). So we don't disagree.
Perhaps, like in email, it's preferable to quote in slashdot postings too, otherwise it really does look like you were replying to the original post with this subject line...
Sorry, my English grammar parser failed on that sentence. What were you trying to say? What does David Irving have to do with Edwin Black?
I have been to a lecture by Black and read some of his book on eugenics, and let me tell you, he has absolutely no sympathy for neo-Nazis. His entire point, both in the IBM book and in the eugenics one, was that America was complicit in some of the worst excesses of Nazi Germany.
Because it doesn't save money to do that. Salaries are much higher in the US which is why US companies are outsourcing in the first place.
I agree it's childish and annoying. I think it's not because they can't write/spell but because they're lazy/poor typists (I can't believe the number of professional programmers who type with two fingers), so they get into that habit for IM and personal email, and it just spills over into professional email.
Actually I'm not Brit - I'm Indian, temporarily living in the US. And I don't find cockney or other Brit accents annoying. Some Brits speak so clearly it's perhaps the closest thing one can get to "no accent" (Noel Coward is a good example), others are hard to follow but amusing in their way, especially if you have things like "My Fair Lady" or Monty Python's dead parrot sketch in mind.
Actually there's only one accent in America (or so it seems to a foreigner), though indeed it's often hard to understand. It's amazing to me that there's less variation in accent coast-to-coast in the US than between two adjacent villages in England, let alone between a London Cockney and a Yorkshireman. (And England is where the language originated after all, so I don't see how anyone can claim that there's such a thing as a One True Accent.)
Most educated Indians know English. It's taught in school, often as first language -- and it's the real English, not the American kind.
Nonetheless, they're naming it -- read the article.
This guy found a crash in qmail, too. I don't think he showed it was exploitable, so he doesn't win DJB's security guarantee prize. In fact I'm not sure DJB reacted to the news at all.
I can confirm that my digital camera (Canon, PTP protocol) works fine with gphoto2 under FreeBSD. Cameras that use the USB mass storage protocol "should" work, but YMMV.
There is also a fair bit of GPL code in the userland (starting with gcc), and it is distributed in binary form by the FreeBSD project, but of course the virality clause of the GPL doesn't affect that, because it's "mere aggregation".
The GPL makes an exception for libraries that are part of the system, and I think XFree86 qualifies as that. Similarly, it's legal to link GPL code against the Solaris X libraries, or for that matter the Solaris libc, though those aren't even free software.
To quote:
Plainly, nobody actually distributes XFree86 libraries, in either source or binary form, with their own code.
Have you tried? Many people are trying, and I personally have met several foreigners working in India, some for decades and in fields far removed from software. Anyway, it's not that easy to get a work visa in the US and it's getting harder.
and even if we could, it would be for 1/6th of what a programmer would make here!
But you can live on 1/10th what you can here in the US. So it looks like a good deal to me.
As indeed the rest of that sentence indicates: "... libraries that kind of power your whole desktop." Try twiddling the knobs on your humour meter.
Xouvert has nothing to do with the current news story.
I can agree with saying it's not "FreeBSD-specific" but he says more than that. The statement I took issue with was "the new release of FreeBSD means absolutely nothing to OS X development." Not true: Apple themselves say FreeBSD 5 already means something to Panther.
Meanwhile he makes enough other errors. OS X isn't derived from OpenDarwin; Darwin (not OpenDarwin) is the "core" of OS X, also distributed separately by Apple, while OpenDarwin is a sort of community project to further develop Darwin. It's not "also called" DarwinBSD anywhere I've heard of (indeed, a google search turns up barely 55 hits). Its description (OpenStep+4.4-BSD) applies to Rhapsody, but Darwin (and thus MacOS X) pulls in significant contributions from the FreeBSD userland, though perhaps not so much in the kernel.
Back when they used FreeBSD 3.2, for the networking piece and presumably also for the command and library updates referred to, that was the actively maintained stable version. I don't see where in your quote it says that they're no longer merging stuff from FreeBSD.
And in the west, several times a day trains leave Paris for Marseille, covering 800+ km in 3 hours. The first TGV track (Paris-Lyon, 2 hrs, 500+ km) decimated the air traffic on that route; the extension to Marseille has done the same to Paris-Marseille. I was reading recently that the Eurostar now has 60% market share for the Paris-London route. Of course, these (and the shinkansen) aren't maglevs, but they're pretty fast all the same -- 300 km/h. It's not a "Tokyo doesn't exist" argument, it's a "the rest of the world outside the US doesn't exist" argument.