Some of us think that a limited and inherently deflationary currency, much of which is in the hands of a small number of early adopters, is a far worse idea than an inflationary monetary system that can be adapted to circumstance by central banks.
I know, crazy talk to you, but you sound far crazier to most people.
I think it's probably because most of the world loves eating lamb. Roast lamb is a thing of joy. It's delicious if quite fatty.
I'm not sure why it's not so much of a thing in the US. I understand it's regarded in a similar way to how I regard goat - no majpr objections to the idea but it's a bit weird.
"no, but it's certainly a useless & irrelevant freedom from the POV of MOST end-users running software of any type."
I couldn't disagree more.
These users get more software because intermediate users had the right to alter and redistribute. There are a hell of a lot of devices out there running custom firmware because of this, just as a starting point. Without the GPL you can miss out on an entire class of software - stuff with added value from middle parties in the chain.
A sheep's way of saying "I don't like what you say".
No, your post either is FUD or is the result of having been fed FUD.
No, that is not true. You not only have to release source (which can be difficult enough, depending on the scope and profitability of the projects), but enough additional information to allow users to recreate binaries from the source. That can easily mean spending man years on documentation and giving away your proprietary build processes. If doing static linking against certain versions of GPL, you may even have to give away the source to your own proprietary source code.
Keeping all this straight for projects with hundreds of OSS elements is far from easy. I find it easier to avoid the issues whenever I can, and use more liberal licenses, both as a developer and as a manager. And at a minimum, avoid the GPL licensed products where the copyright holders are known to be sue happy.
There's nothing FUD about this at all. Yes, there is F, but we've progressed way past U and D with the busybox and Oracle lawsuits.
Absolutely none of which is about users, it's about distributors. This is what I was calling you on.
And yes, if you link GPL stuff you have to open your source, that's the price of using the GPL functionality, if you don't like it, use something else. I mean, that's entirely the *point* of the GPL, that people like you, who want to use GPL software without reciprocating, don't get to.
If that's the reason that the GPL is bad for you, that your freeloading is not allowed, then good, stay away. I hope you do, as a developer and a manager, stay away from it, because you clearly have no intent of playing ball, and changing the license to get you on board gains the community absolutely nothing.
The only time 'users' get involved in legal action is when those 'users' are releasing GPL software as part of a product, and not releasing the source.
If you don't want to get sued over redistributing a piece of software then closed source software must make you piss yourself.
The proportion of open source projects using the GPL, LGPL and AGPL is declining, not the absolute number of projects.
*GPL may not actually be in decline at all, the article doesn't say, it just says that it's falling as a proportion. This information is pretty worthless on its own.
It can be very hard to find someone independant and trustworthy, which is why we have all sorts of rules, loads of legislation and pretty stiff penatlies for this sort of stuff. Otherwise assholes (of the corporate or independant variety) defraud people, like what happened here.
There's no inherent reason that industrial-scale drilling has to be allowed to exhaust the supply
Pffft. Silly rabbit. The inherent reason is humans. Someone with an interest in industrial scale wasting of water will pay the right people just enough to get them out of the way, and start depleting it as fast as they can, for as much or as little profit as they can make from it.
"The government seeing the data should not be that big a deal unless you have something to hide"
How about 'it's none of your fscking business, nor anyone else's, who I talk to' ?
How about that?
Government should exist as a way for society to collectively enforce a code of law, and to provide common services we all need. As far as I'm concerned this is way, way, way beyond its remit.
Paris? Smells of piss. LA? Sprawling mess with gangs and hollywood types.
Pah!
Londoners regard themselves as denizens of a city on a par with NY and Tokyo, and pretty much nowhere else. This has at times been borne out when currency fluctuations have temporarily made it the most expensive city and the world's largest financial centre.
The greater London area, those that commute in or are centred around there, makes up somewhere closer to a quarter of the population, maybe more. Most of the money in the UK is made in the capital and surrounding areas.
The UK is London-centric. Not just the media.
I don't live there any more (ex-pat) nor will I when I move back to the UK later this year, but it's a bit of an unavoidable thing with Britain.
The law is stacked against consumers and retailers using globalised markets to get the same freedoms as creators have to purchase materials and labour. The most flagrant cases of this have involved large corporates smacking down grey importers.
If you like the situation where the likes of Sony can shop around for workers in any market, but you can't shop around for products in any market, then good for you. To me its just wrong.
They resent $megacorp firing six pound an hour guy and paying penny a day a pittance, then turning around and charging us as if they were employing the Brit. Not only that, but demanding that we do so or face legal consequences.
The only resentment here is against the stacked system, in which large corporate interests get to use the global market for labour and materials but small retailers and private individuals are legally restricted from doing the same for goods and services.
This perpetuates the problems of segregation and inequality. What if penny-a-day guy has a brother who wants to export from the local market to a British retailer at a small markup? There's a price gradient he could use to better himself and bring money to his country.
I mean, you just have to look at the numbers. When you examine it, you can easily see that each address component only goes up to 255! Why aren't we going all the way to 999?
It's a conspiracy folks!
There are more than enough IPv4 addresses for everyone! I've been running my home network in the 674.413.900.* range for years now! Wake up Sheeple!
That's bullshit. The game piracy thing didn't come along until the firmware was jailbroken several revisions AFTER Sony removed OtherOS.
In fact it looks like people broke the console open to piracy when they were trying to find a way to put OtherOS back. You have bad information there. And it's far from the only crappy move they've pulled over the years. Furthermore, the parent company are responsible for the actions of the US company at the end of the day.
So we should all be happy because blatant advertising is the same as informational content, as they often come from teh same sort of source, bad is good, good is bad, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria...
No, this is blatantly advertising by and for one firm, not even 'here look at this breakthrough we made' that might be technologically interesting, just 'buy our stuff'.
If that's the slashdot you want to read, good for you. To me this represents a new low on a site that had already driven away most of the interesting technical discussion of a few years ago.
There's even some crackpot doctor going around diagnosing kids with 'turbine syndrome' or some other crap, despite there being no higher incidence of any of the symptoms of her invented syndrome in populations near turbines.
The world is full of charlatans and nutcases. It's really depressing.
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I do love this - bitcoin fanatics keep saying "No Fees!" to merchants and the like, but there are fees all over the place.
There are exchange fees, deposit service fees and fees inherent in the bitcoin model. This doesn't sound like "No Fees!" to me.
Awesome, so this guy has grabbed about 7% of all the currency there ever will be, and is sitting on it.
This gives me all sorts of confidence and reason to love bitcoins, oh yes.
Remember kid - they laughed at Einstein and the Wright Brothers, but they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
Some of us think that a limited and inherently deflationary currency, much of which is in the hands of a small number of early adopters, is a far worse idea than an inflationary monetary system that can be adapted to circumstance by central banks.
I know, crazy talk to you, but you sound far crazier to most people.
Then you must be doing something wrong, it's absolutely delicious (IMHO).
We only eat the baby sheep of course.
I think it's probably because most of the world loves eating lamb. Roast lamb is a thing of joy. It's delicious if quite fatty.
I'm not sure why it's not so much of a thing in the US. I understand it's regarded in a similar way to how I regard goat - no majpr objections to the idea but it's a bit weird.
I would dispute 'very good'.
I couldn't disagree more.
These users get more software because intermediate users had the right to alter and redistribute. There are a hell of a lot of devices out there running custom firmware because of this, just as a starting point. Without the GPL you can miss out on an entire class of software - stuff with added value from middle parties in the chain.
No, your post either is FUD or is the result of having been fed FUD.
Absolutely none of which is about users, it's about distributors. This is what I was calling you on.
And yes, if you link GPL stuff you have to open your source, that's the price of using the GPL functionality, if you don't like it, use something else. I mean, that's entirely the *point* of the GPL, that people like you, who want to use GPL software without reciprocating, don't get to.
If that's the reason that the GPL is bad for you, that your freeloading is not allowed, then good, stay away. I hope you do, as a developer and a manager, stay away from it, because you clearly have no intent of playing ball, and changing the license to get you on board gains the community absolutely nothing.
FUD.
The only time 'users' get involved in legal action is when those 'users' are releasing GPL software as part of a product, and not releasing the source.
If you don't want to get sued over redistributing a piece of software then closed source software must make you piss yourself.
It's also a misleading summary and article.
The proportion of open source projects using the GPL, LGPL and AGPL is declining, not the absolute number of projects.
*GPL may not actually be in decline at all, the article doesn't say, it just says that it's falling as a proportion. This information is pretty worthless on its own.
It can be very hard to find someone independant and trustworthy, which is why we have all sorts of rules, loads of legislation and pretty stiff penatlies for this sort of stuff. Otherwise assholes (of the corporate or independant variety) defraud people, like what happened here.
There's no inherent reason that industrial-scale drilling has to be allowed to exhaust the supply
Pffft. Silly rabbit. The inherent reason is humans. Someone with an interest in industrial scale wasting of water will pay the right people just enough to get them out of the way, and start depleting it as fast as they can, for as much or as little profit as they can make from it.
"The government seeing the data should not be that big a deal unless you have something to hide"
How about 'it's none of your fscking business, nor anyone else's, who I talk to' ?
How about that?
Government should exist as a way for society to collectively enforce a code of law, and to provide common services we all need. As far as I'm concerned this is way, way, way beyond its remit.
Playing games on the couch, in front of the tv, with friends.
That's why.
It's not a technical limitation, PC games could use controllers and have single-screen multiplayer, but overwhelmingly do not.
Paris? Smells of piss.
LA? Sprawling mess with gangs and hollywood types.
Pah!
Londoners regard themselves as denizens of a city on a par with NY and Tokyo, and pretty much nowhere else. This has at times been borne out when currency fluctuations have temporarily made it the most expensive city and the world's largest financial centre.
Me, I think it's filthy and crowded.
The greater London area, those that commute in or are centred around there, makes up somewhere closer to a quarter of the population, maybe more. Most of the money in the UK is made in the capital and surrounding areas.
The UK is London-centric. Not just the media.
I don't live there any more (ex-pat) nor will I when I move back to the UK later this year, but it's a bit of an unavoidable thing with Britain.
Eh?
It was too interactive, did you never press the 'reveal' button to see the answers to a quiz?
The law is stacked against consumers and retailers using globalised markets to get the same freedoms as creators have to purchase materials and labour. The most flagrant cases of this have involved large corporates smacking down grey importers.
If you like the situation where the likes of Sony can shop around for workers in any market, but you can't shop around for products in any market, then good for you. To me its just wrong.
They don't.
They resent $megacorp firing six pound an hour guy and paying penny a day a pittance, then turning around and charging us as if they were employing the Brit. Not only that, but demanding that we do so or face legal consequences.
The only resentment here is against the stacked system, in which large corporate interests get to use the global market for labour and materials but small retailers and private individuals are legally restricted from doing the same for goods and services.
This perpetuates the problems of segregation and inequality. What if penny-a-day guy has a brother who wants to export from the local market to a British retailer at a small markup? There's a price gradient he could use to better himself and bring money to his country.
Where did you get the idea cinnamon was a port of gnome 2 stuff?
AFAICT it's a different beast again. A good one, certainly, by comparison to Shell, but a different thing.
Couldn't agree more.
I mean, you just have to look at the numbers. When you examine it, you can easily see that each address component only goes up to 255! Why aren't we going all the way to 999?
It's a conspiracy folks!
There are more than enough IPv4 addresses for everyone! I've been running my home network in the 674.413.900.* range for years now! Wake up Sheeple!
Wait, what?
That's bullshit. The game piracy thing didn't come along until the firmware was jailbroken several revisions AFTER Sony removed OtherOS.
In fact it looks like people broke the console open to piracy when they were trying to find a way to put OtherOS back. You have bad information there. And it's far from the only crappy move they've pulled over the years. Furthermore, the parent company are responsible for the actions of the US company at the end of the day.
So we should all be happy because blatant advertising is the same as informational content, as they often come from teh same sort of source, bad is good, good is bad, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria...
No, this is blatantly advertising by and for one firm, not even 'here look at this breakthrough we made' that might be technologically interesting, just 'buy our stuff'.
If that's the slashdot you want to read, good for you. To me this represents a new low on a site that had already driven away most of the interesting technical discussion of a few years ago.
We've got this in Australia too.
There's even some crackpot doctor going around diagnosing kids with 'turbine syndrome' or some other crap, despite there being no higher incidence of any of the symptoms of her invented syndrome in populations near turbines.
The world is full of charlatans and nutcases. It's really depressing.