If people dismiss some parts of it as out of date or allegorical (Hmm, Lot and his daughters) then that's just more evidence that they're drawing a moral code from somewhere else.
C has been doing multi process for decades, and multi thread for a decade or more.
It's used in commercial apps all over the world.
How many times - threads and parallelism have been with us for years. Just because games haven't been threaded doesn't mean the rest of the world hasn't been doing it, and doing it well for a long time
Look up pthreads sometime.
Seriously, threaded processing in C is damn simple.
... It'll have about 10 movies available, all of which are either 10 years old or massively out of date. And the price won't be competitive with your local Blockbuster.
YMMV, this is from the perspective of a UK user. Maybe in the US you get a decent selection at a decent price?
To be completely fair, it's become a non issue of late because something truly weird has happened - I'm atually motivated and not spending so much time trying to get away with doing other things. So I've given up on Lynx too.
My point kinda still stands, I'm sure there are people in the world who still use it. It's good for cutting bandwidth usage down to almost zero too.
It annoyed me mightily the day slashdot introduced captchas for comments when you weren't already logged in. And somehow broke the login process from lynx.
Lynx is the geek slacker's greatest tool, when run in an ssh session from your home server, not only is the traffic unloggable (except for "he's calling home a bit") but it even looks like work to the uninitiated.
Yes, we talked about this yesterday. I said this -
""It is the ultimate in disruptive technology, and while to it is only 6% of estimated trillion dollars IT budgeted annually, it represents a real loss of $60 billion in annual revenues to software companies,""
Love this argument. It's just like the RIAA and their "We're losing billions to piracy!" argument. In fact it's worse because nobody's even performing copyright infringment.
It's as if they take it as read that they are entitled to this money. It's usually unsupported crap.
Maybe he should also look at things like the cost to companies of switching all servers/desktops etc to expensive, non-linux platforms. The coasts of everyone developing or buying their own solution to certain problem instead of making use of quality open components.
No, OSS greases the wheels for companies. If all you're concerned about is desktop software sales then you're not thinking big enough.
""It is the ultimate in disruptive technology, and while to it is only 6% of estimated trillion dollars IT budgeted annually, it represents a real loss of $60 billion in annual revenues to software companies,""
Love this argument. It's just like the RIAA and their "We're losing billions to piracy!" argument. In fact it's worse because nobody's even performing copyright infringment.
It's as if they take it as read that they are entitled to this money. It's usually unsupported crap.
Maybe he should also look at things like the cost to companies of switching all servers/desktops etc to expensive, non-linux platforms. The coasts of everyone developing or buying their own solution to certain problem instead of making use of quality open components.
No, OSS greases the wheels for companies. If all you're concerned about is desktop software sales then you're not thinking big enough.
I don't know which IBM you work for, but the one I'm part of allows Linux as primary e-client (using Notes for Linux), though I still use XP myself. I also have a Windows/Debian dual boot workstation and a (slightly old) SunBlade that's my primary development platform.
Haven't got any Macs round us, but I know one or two folks who would welcome it.
IBM likes to be able to play on everyone's hardware and software.
(nothing I say is official IBM policy/viewpoint etc etc)
You know full well it was precisely because the french were not only not going to commit forces to Iraq, but actively opposed it and rubbished the evidence. They turned out to be correct.
yes, they may have had dodgy financial involvements in the region, but it was the sheer gall to oppose the US in its supposed hour of need (bullcrap) that caused the backlash.
It struck me as I read that that I've heard this line before in another sphere.
It's exactly what (some, mainly republican) Americans say about the rest of the world's concerns about pollution and global warming. It's a conspiracy to stop the US being succesful, driven by jealousy of what they are achieving.
They were better and more expensive than their nVidia counterparts at several points over the last few years.
And whilst phenom has been a crash, AMD lead Intel by a considerable margin through the Athlon64/Opteron days, before Intel got the "Core" architecture up and running. They left the giant rival chipmaker in the dust, struggling to figure out a way to make the P4 competetive.
BTW, before anyone accuses me of fanboyism, I'll mention I'm posting from a Core 2 Duo box with an nVidia chip. The last upgrade cycle was AMD and ATI all the way, and I hope we do get back to the state where we have multiple players really able to compete and continually outdo each other.
"Do you hit up project management at all? Technical writing? GUI ergonomics? Testing? Business?"
A little basic project management, yes. UI design wasn't covered in great depth I will admit. Business was not the subject we went to study, if we wanted that we would have taken business systems degress and were struggling to use command line ftp clients in the third year.
"So I say again, if you want to be a good programmer and work in a code factory, focus on learning only about coding."
I don't, and I didn't at university. I wanted to learn about computers, and I did.
By having a good upbringing and a solid education from ages 5 until 15. Possibly 18. University in the UK is a place to go once you have your basic education.
If the public school system has failed then you need a finishing school, not a university.
"I have. And when we get some binary brained prick like you who had a skill range from A to B and a social range even more narrow cast, we NEVER hire them."
Who said anything about that, asshole? I said "Whilst being articulate helps, you've clearly never hired a software engineer.". Meaning you need both. Idiot.
"And over and over and over and you';ll get tossed from one place to another until your job is finally outsourced, or, you're too old and exhausted to continue programming, and because you don't have a life or skillset outside of that, you're not good material for anything else,"
And a liberal arts minor will help you exactly how?
"1. you will work in a team, so you will need social skills."
Agreed. Never said otherwise.
"2. Sociality is dependent on culture"
Depends what you mean by culture. Culture doesn't have to mean art appreciation and in depth historical knowledge. In fact these days that makes unusual. Culture can equally be current affairs, love of beer, interest in cinema....
"3. A lot of programming today is focussed on media, and a knowledge of communication theory, propaganda, cultural studies and similar things will get you out in front of the drones who don't."
Never come across any time at which that would have been useful. But then I'm not a web weenie or a graphic designer.
"4. If all you know is programming, you will always be a programmer. You will be replaced."
and if you know programming and a bit of english literature, that will help you how exactly? Not one single iota.
"Now that your spanking is over, go back to your mommy's basement and play Xbox for a while."
Thanks, but I think I'll go for a drive in the jaguar instead, it's a nice evening.
No, I mean from it's literal interpretation.
If people dismiss some parts of it as out of date or allegorical (Hmm, Lot and his daughters) then that's just more evidence that they're drawing a moral code from somewhere else.
Jesus christ there's another one....
C has been doing multi process for decades, and multi thread for a decade or more.
It's used in commercial apps all over the world.
How many times - threads and parallelism have been with us for years. Just because games haven't been threaded doesn't mean the rest of the world hasn't been doing it, and doing it well for a long time
Look up pthreads sometime.
Seriously, threaded processing in C is damn simple.
Lol.
The bible is a terrible source of morals/ethics. It's misogynist, spiteful and in some places just plain *weird*.
OTOH, you're right, it's pretty clear on the money issue.
But my first point there was really to illustrate that no sane individual derives morals from the bible.
I do, I love sony kit. It's both shiny and capable.
Vaio laptops are great.
The PS3 is a fantastic machine. So was the PS2.
I'd buy a Sony TV but they're damned expensive.
So sod the ethics. I guess I'm not a music customer though.
... It'll have about 10 movies available, all of which are either 10 years old or massively out of date. And the price won't be competitive with your local Blockbuster.
YMMV, this is from the perspective of a UK user. Maybe in the US you get a decent selection at a decent price?
"So you're whining because Slashdot isn't conducive to unethical actions that degrade the reputations of programmers and IT guys alike?"
Umm, yeah. I though that was what slashdot was for?
Great plan if your only concern is evading tracking.
Lynx, however, even looks vaguely like work, graphical browsers generally do not!
To be completely fair, it's become a non issue of late because something truly weird has happened - I'm atually motivated and not spending so much time trying to get away with doing other things. So I've given up on Lynx too.
My point kinda still stands, I'm sure there are people in the world who still use it. It's good for cutting bandwidth usage down to almost zero too.
Well of course that's an option, but it doesn't look much like work, does it? One can only spend so long browsing the web openly during work time...
But what the hell is a "fake color"?
It annoyed me mightily the day slashdot introduced captchas for comments when you weren't already logged in. And somehow broke the login process from lynx.
Lynx is the geek slacker's greatest tool, when run in an ssh session from your home server, not only is the traffic unloggable (except for "he's calling home a bit") but it even looks like work to the uninitiated.
Yes, we talked about this yesterday. I said this -
""It is the ultimate in disruptive technology, and while to it is only 6% of estimated trillion dollars IT budgeted annually, it represents a real loss of $60 billion in annual revenues to software companies,""
Love this argument. It's just like the RIAA and their "We're losing billions to piracy!" argument. In fact it's worse because nobody's even performing copyright infringment.
It's as if they take it as read that they are entitled to this money. It's usually unsupported crap.
Maybe he should also look at things like the cost to companies of switching all servers/desktops etc to expensive, non-linux platforms. The coasts of everyone developing or buying their own solution to certain problem instead of making use of quality open components.
No, OSS greases the wheels for companies. If all you're concerned about is desktop software sales then you're not thinking big enough.
And I stand by it.
""It is the ultimate in disruptive technology, and while to it is only 6% of estimated trillion dollars IT budgeted annually, it represents a real loss of $60 billion in annual revenues to software companies,""
Love this argument. It's just like the RIAA and their "We're losing billions to piracy!" argument. In fact it's worse because nobody's even performing copyright infringment.
It's as if they take it as read that they are entitled to this money. It's usually unsupported crap.
Maybe he should also look at things like the cost to companies of switching all servers/desktops etc to expensive, non-linux platforms. The coasts of everyone developing or buying their own solution to certain problem instead of making use of quality open components.
No, OSS greases the wheels for companies. If all you're concerned about is desktop software sales then you're not thinking big enough.
Global warming has a sound scientific basis.
Just out of interest, what legal implications do you think there might be?
I was wondering, 'cos it's pretty likely that if it's real then apple would be looking for a way to sue his pants off.
I don't know which IBM you work for, but the one I'm part of allows Linux as primary e-client (using Notes for Linux), though I still use XP myself. I also have a Windows/Debian dual boot workstation and a (slightly old) SunBlade that's my primary development platform.
Haven't got any Macs round us, but I know one or two folks who would welcome it.
IBM likes to be able to play on everyone's hardware and software.
(nothing I say is official IBM policy/viewpoint etc etc)
Umm, please don't revise history this way.
You know full well it was precisely because the french were not only not going to commit forces to Iraq, but actively opposed it and rubbished the evidence. They turned out to be correct.
yes, they may have had dodgy financial involvements in the region, but it was the sheer gall to oppose the US in its supposed hour of need (bullcrap) that caused the backlash.
"Conspiracy to Stop China From Being Successful."
It struck me as I read that that I've heard this line before in another sphere.
It's exactly what (some, mainly republican) Americans say about the rest of the world's concerns about pollution and global warming.
It's a conspiracy to stop the US being succesful, driven by jealousy of what they are achieving.
In both cases it's ludicrous.
AMD cheaper than intel yes, but ATI?
They were better and more expensive than their nVidia counterparts at several points over the last few years.
And whilst phenom has been a crash, AMD lead Intel by a considerable margin through the Athlon64/Opteron days, before Intel got the "Core" architecture up and running. They left the giant rival chipmaker in the dust, struggling to figure out a way to make the P4 competetive.
BTW, before anyone accuses me of fanboyism, I'll mention I'm posting from a Core 2 Duo box with an nVidia chip. The last upgrade cycle was AMD and ATI all the way, and I hope we do get back to the state where we have multiple players really able to compete and continually outdo each other.
That's good for all of us.
Some have. Apple notably.
My Sony Vaio SZ670 has DVI on the docking station and can push 1920x1080.
I don't think you'll find any coral at all resisted that, but that the area was re-colonised by corals from a little further afield.
I agree. UIt will be hollywood-ised and spielberged to the hilt.
Imagine, they'll probably spoon-feed the plot, not a usual factor in GiTS. Usually you have to think about it, I'm betting not this time.
It'll be an overly cute girly with a purple dye-job shooting stuff.
"Do you hit up project management at all? Technical writing? GUI ergonomics? Testing? Business?"
A little basic project management, yes. UI design wasn't covered in great depth I will admit. Business was not the subject we went to study, if we wanted that we would have taken business systems degress and were struggling to use command line ftp clients in the third year.
"So I say again, if you want to be a good programmer and work in a code factory, focus on learning only about coding."
I don't, and I didn't at university. I wanted to learn about computers, and I did.
"Well, how do you think you become eloquent?"
By having a good upbringing and a solid education from ages 5 until 15. Possibly 18. University in the UK is a place to go once you have your basic education.
If the public school system has failed then you need a finishing school, not a university.
"I have. And when we get some binary brained prick like you who had a skill range from A to B and a social range even more narrow cast, we NEVER hire them."
Who said anything about that, asshole? I said "Whilst being articulate helps, you've clearly never hired a software engineer.". Meaning you need both. Idiot.
"And over and over and over and you';ll get tossed from one place to another until your job is finally outsourced, or, you're too old and exhausted to continue programming, and because you don't have a life or skillset outside of that, you're not good material for anything else,"
And a liberal arts minor will help you exactly how?
"1. you will work in a team, so you will need social skills."
Agreed. Never said otherwise.
"2. Sociality is dependent on culture"
Depends what you mean by culture. Culture doesn't have to mean art appreciation and in depth historical knowledge. In fact these days that makes unusual. Culture can equally be current affairs, love of beer, interest in cinema....
"3. A lot of programming today is focussed on media, and a knowledge of communication theory, propaganda, cultural studies and similar things will get you out in front of the drones who don't."
Never come across any time at which that would have been useful. But then I'm not a web weenie or a graphic designer.
"4. If all you know is programming, you will always be a programmer. You will be replaced."
and if you know programming and a bit of english literature, that will help you how exactly? Not one single iota.
"Now that your spanking is over, go back to your mommy's basement and play Xbox for a while."
Thanks, but I think I'll go for a drive in the jaguar instead, it's a nice evening.