No, no they don't understand at all. They, like you, have oversimplified the event.
Whilst it was not authorised access, some people (like me) leave the network open precisely so people CAN use it. This man not only knew how to secure a network but knew he didn't want other people on it, so he should have secured it. As it is he was broadcasting an open signal in public airspace and can expect NOTHING if someone responds to that signal.
the respect was for the sanity, not necessarily the faith based position you spoke from. There are some sick "memes" (for want of a better word) going around christian fundamentalism IMHO, all to do with binding the congregation further to the church (and the church to their money no doubt) based on both scapegoating and a sort of superiority/exclusivity complex.
So yeah, good sentiments regardless of whether you're a practicing/faithful jew or not!
I'm a non-believer, an atheist with little respect for the religious due to my opinions on violence, bigotry, tribalism etc etc. I do now have a lot of respect for you though. Some of the weird 'rapture' related stuff that comes out of modern american christianity is grade-A discriminatory bullcrap designed to make the small minded feel superior. Glad to see that some people with faith are still sane and outraged by this sort of stuff.
Erm... it would have been ten seconds more amusement. Also when I had the thing delivered everyone in the office came over, turned it upside down and said "where's the laser?" and each time I had to point at the label saying "Infra-Red Laser". It got irritating.
I used to get wrist pain from using th mouse all day, then I switched to the MX1000 and it changed my hand position so that my wrist sits more comfortably. Also, the improved precision allowed me to turn the mouse sensitivity up so I could minimise my actual wrist movements.
To me it was well worth it. I know this is anecdotal rather than scientific, but it's a start.
I can vouch for the MX1000
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I like optical mice because they don't get full of fluff. The problem I did have with them is that they don't like shiny desk surfaces. So I got the Logitech MX1000.
On a polished pine desk it never misses a twitch. It's very sensitive so I can minimize my wrist movement and maintain precision, and I get to say i have a laser mouse. The battery lasted a week away on business (using the mouse all day) without needing charging or even dipping below two bars out of three. It's just a shame it's an IR laser and you can't see it.....
The neqw contactless cards aren't in use in the Uk yet, but they are a type of EMV card. EMV is a smart card standard that is being brought in all over the world to combat fraud. All over the world except the US of course because industry leaders in the US seem to think it's everyone else's problem...
EMV is a secure system in that it uses cryptographic signing of all secure data. I'm sure some genius will find a way round it someday (and I believe there already is a way if you happen to own an electron microscope), but it ends the days when a restaurant employee can just skim your magstripe details and have a functional card copy. It also allows more secutriy for offline transactions as the PIN can be verified by the card. These cards really are smart, they have crypto processors on board rather than just memory, so the PIN hash stored on the card is never ever known to any reader device.
I'll bite, though I know I shouldn't feed the trolls. You've got a right to try and make money, companies have a duty (to their shareholders) to try and make money. You have no right to make money though.
If you have a stupid idea or a bad product, yet you still got paid by the government if consumers wouldn't buy your crap, that could be expressed as a right to make money. I think we can agree that that is far more "communist" than the current situation where there is no such right, only the right to try.
Lol, I was going to add a few snarky comments about various special interests, but I didn't want to muddy the waters. Hell look at the RIAA and their equivalents around the world. Blank media taxes anyone?
i think you're getting confused. Companies have a duty to make money (that's what they're for). They even have rights pursuant to activities surrounding the making of money. They do not have the right to make money, otherwise they could sit and do nothing and then demand taxpayer cash from the government because their rights were being infringed.
As has been said (and widely ignored by mods) above, if you're in the Uk then it's been possible using multimap.com for quite some time now. I'm not sure of their coverage of the rest of europe/world, but this is not new.
Shuttle does offer complete PC's from it's site, but I don't think many people sell them. It has a niche in gaming events and enthusiatic techie people, but hasn't the clout to get into the big time. It is getting there though.
that was kinda my point really, that Apple have taken the SFF idea which was already there, and brought it to the mainstream, who have never even thought about making computers smaller or taking them out of the back bedroom/office space. Whereas we here on/. ought to know that this is what they have done and not be so quick to shout "Groundbreaking! Yay! How do they do it? fantastic!" when we know it's a logical extension of an existing market.
Shuttle is getting quite big with gamers, and hard drive players were quite big with geeks before the iPod. What my point was is that apple takes a small trend that hasn't hit big because it's stuck in a niche market with no major force behind it, it sexes up the design and the interface (significantly usually) and then somehow makes it 'cool'.
I don't mean to sound like I think this is a bad thing, I don't. But I also think apple is getting way too much kudos for 'original' and 'groundbreaking' ideas from geeks who should (and do) know better.
As I said, what Apple do, they do well and with style. I just dispute the fanboy claim that it's either novel or groundbreaking.
Also, not all SFF PC's run crappy processors. My SN95G5 runs a socket 939 Athlon64 just fine. Top end, not too hot. WAY more powerful than the Mac Mini, to use your terms.
It's not as small, it's _almost_ as stylish (IMHO), but it is powerful, and it is sleek.
The Mac Mini does look fantastic, I'm very tempted to get one and I've been a PC guy up until now - But I really don't think it's groundbreaking.
leading the charge in paradigm shifts in certain aspects of consumer products (e.g. GUI's, color changes, the iPod, and the list goes on).
Excuse me? leading the charge with the iPod? Apple were most certainly not the first people with a hard drive player, they took a good idea, styled and marketed it and hit the jackpot. That's what they're good at.
The Mac Mini is NOT the first small machine out there. Shuttle and others like iDeq have seen a massive surge in SFF sales in the last couple of years. This is Apple responding to that surge by making their own SFF product. It is well styled and well executed. It will sell well. It is a good product. What it is not is groundbreaking or charge-leading.
A present from my very generous other half. It's great. The little disk caddy hooks up to a PC as a USB 2.0 hard drive for easy and fast file transfer, then slots into the head unit behind the faceplate. I'm very happy with it and highly recommend it. Of course now I have to put all my cd's onto it which is taking aaaaages....
Dension dh100ix + 40Gbig toshiba drive = all your music available in the car.
Dension also do an iPod adaptor for other makes of stereo to allow you to hook up your iPod to the cd-changer port on most major branded head units and control it through their changer controls.
Cool company, if I was the type to invest in the stock market I'd be buying dension right now.
You do realise that in a lot of Europe (where the smart comes from) the Ford escort is about average, if not above average, in terms of car size? In Britain a lot of us drive Ford Fiestas and Peugot 206's and the like because they are economical and you don't need a hulking beast of a car. I drive a Ford Ka.
And the smart has a very good safety record. It's a very modern well designed small car. I personally wouldn't be seen dead in one 'cos I think they're ugly......
LZW was a significant acheivement, significantly novel and inventive, and it is a specific implementation of file compression. I feel it deserves some protect if the author wishes it. This sort of thing allows people to invest significantly in finding of new ways of acheiving things like compression with some recourse to profit to recap investment afterwards. This encourages innovation. I'm not sure the current duration of patents is appropriate here.
However end results should not be patentable. You should not be able to patent the idea of compressing a file - it is obvious and would stifle anyone wanting to implement it.
The problem is that it would cover business methods such as "One click ordering", something that allows someone visiting an e-commerce site to order an item with a single click. This is an obvious idea and should not be pantentable. The exact logic behind it should be (and is) covered by copyright law, but the idea shouldn't have any protection. In the US it does. This means that regardless of how it is implemented in software, no-one other than the patent owner (amazon) is able to have single click ordering. In the EU we'd like not to go down that road.
Algorithms that are non-obvious and required significant investment in effort and significant ingenuity (FFT, LZW, various others) do seem to merit some protection. They are fundamentally different from the software patents talked about here though, as they are specific methods of acheiving something. LZW should be patentable (and was, and has expired now). The idea of file compression should not be. That is the difference.
This isn't just something encountered online though is it?
When it transfers itself to an EU citizen's PC and runs in the background collecting information it is acting within the EU. The EU could conceivably extradite the people responsible for this and try them as crimes have been comitted in the EU as surely as a cracker gaining illegal entry to an EU government computer from a terminal in the US has comitted a crime.
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No, no they don't understand at all. They, like you, have oversimplified the event.
Whilst it was not authorised access, some people (like me) leave the network open precisely so people CAN use it. This man not only knew how to secure a network but knew he didn't want other people on it, so he should have secured it. As it is he was broadcasting an open signal in public airspace and can expect NOTHING if someone responds to that signal.
the respect was for the sanity, not necessarily the faith based position you spoke from. There are some sick "memes" (for want of a better word) going around christian fundamentalism IMHO, all to do with binding the congregation further to the church (and the church to their money no doubt) based on both scapegoating and a sort of superiority/exclusivity complex.
So yeah, good sentiments regardless of whether you're a practicing/faithful jew or not!
I'm a non-believer, an atheist with little respect for the religious due to my opinions on violence, bigotry, tribalism etc etc.
I do now have a lot of respect for you though. Some of the weird 'rapture' related stuff that comes out of modern american christianity is grade-A discriminatory bullcrap designed to make the small minded feel superior. Glad to see that some people with faith are still sane and outraged by this sort of stuff.
Much respect.
Erm... it would have been ten seconds more amusement. Also when I had the thing delivered everyone in the office came over, turned it upside down and said "where's the laser?" and each time I had to point at the label saying "Infra-Red Laser". It got irritating.
I used to get wrist pain from using th mouse all day, then I switched to the MX1000 and it changed my hand position so that my wrist sits more comfortably. Also, the improved precision allowed me to turn the mouse sensitivity up so I could minimise my actual wrist movements.
To me it was well worth it. I know this is anecdotal rather than scientific, but it's a start.
I like optical mice because they don't get full of fluff. The problem I did have with them is that they don't like shiny desk surfaces. So I got the Logitech MX1000.
On a polished pine desk it never misses a twitch. It's very sensitive so I can minimize my wrist movement and maintain precision, and I get to say i have a laser mouse. The battery lasted a week away on business (using the mouse all day) without needing charging or even dipping below two bars out of three. It's just a shame it's an IR laser and you can't see it.....
Very much worth the price tag.
The neqw contactless cards aren't in use in the Uk yet, but they are a type of EMV card. EMV is a smart card standard that is being brought in all over the world to combat fraud. All over the world except the US of course because industry leaders in the US seem to think it's everyone else's problem...
EMV is a secure system in that it uses cryptographic signing of all secure data. I'm sure some genius will find a way round it someday (and I believe there already is a way if you happen to own an electron microscope), but it ends the days when a restaurant employee can just skim your magstripe details and have a functional card copy.
It also allows more secutriy for offline transactions as the PIN can be verified by the card. These cards really are smart, they have crypto processors on board rather than just memory, so the PIN hash stored on the card is never ever known to any reader device.
I'll bite, though I know I shouldn't feed the trolls. You've got a right to try and make money, companies have a duty (to their shareholders) to try and make money. You have no right to make money though.
If you have a stupid idea or a bad product, yet you still got paid by the government if consumers wouldn't buy your crap, that could be expressed as a right to make money. I think we can agree that that is far more "communist" than the current situation where there is no such right, only the right to try.
that's more like a horde of morons who would pay to watch paint dry as long as it was George Lucas' paint.
Lol,
I was going to add a few snarky comments about various special interests, but I didn't want to muddy the waters. Hell look at the RIAA and their equivalents around the world. Blank media taxes anyone?
i think you're getting confused. Companies have a duty to make money (that's what they're for). They even have rights pursuant to activities surrounding the making of money. They do not have the right to make money, otherwise they could sit and do nothing and then demand taxpayer cash from the government because their rights were being infringed.
Nobody has the right to make money.
As has been said (and widely ignored by mods) above, if you're in the Uk then it's been possible using multimap.com for quite some time now. I'm not sure of their coverage of the rest of europe/world, but this is not new.
Shuttle does offer complete PC's from it's site, but I don't think many people sell them. It has a niche in gaming events and enthusiatic techie people, but hasn't the clout to get into the big time. It is getting there though.
/. ought to know that this is what they have done and not be so quick to shout "Groundbreaking! Yay! How do they do it? fantastic!" when we know it's a logical extension of an existing market.
that was kinda my point really, that Apple have taken the SFF idea which was already there, and brought it to the mainstream, who have never even thought about making computers smaller or taking them out of the back bedroom/office space. Whereas we here on
I guess that was my point really....
Shuttle is getting quite big with gamers, and hard drive players were quite big with geeks before the iPod. What my point was is that apple takes a small trend that hasn't hit big because it's stuck in a niche market with no major force behind it, it sexes up the design and the interface (significantly usually) and then somehow makes it 'cool'.
I don't mean to sound like I think this is a bad thing, I don't. But I also think apple is getting way too much kudos for 'original' and 'groundbreaking' ideas from geeks who should (and do) know better.
As I said, what Apple do, they do well and with style. I just dispute the fanboy claim that it's either novel or groundbreaking.
Also, not all SFF PC's run crappy processors. My SN95G5 runs a socket 939 Athlon64 just fine. Top end, not too hot. WAY more powerful than the Mac Mini, to use your terms.
It's not as small, it's _almost_ as stylish (IMHO), but it is powerful, and it is sleek.
The Mac Mini does look fantastic, I'm very tempted to get one and I've been a PC guy up until now - But I really don't think it's groundbreaking.
Excuse me? leading the charge with the iPod? Apple were most certainly not the first people with a hard drive player, they took a good idea, styled and marketed it and hit the jackpot. That's what they're good at.
The Mac Mini is NOT the first small machine out there. Shuttle and others like iDeq have seen a massive surge in SFF sales in the last couple of years. This is Apple responding to that surge by making their own SFF product. It is well styled and well executed. It will sell well. It is a good product. What it is not is groundbreaking or charge-leading.
A present from my very generous other half. It's great. The little disk caddy hooks up to a PC as a USB 2.0 hard drive for easy and fast file transfer, then slots into the head unit behind the faceplate. I'm very happy with it and highly recommend it. Of course now I have to put all my cd's onto it which is taking aaaaages....
Dension dh100ix + 40Gbig toshiba drive = all your music available in the car.
Dension also do an iPod adaptor for other makes of stereo to allow you to hook up your iPod to the cd-changer port on most major branded head units and control it through their changer controls.
Cool company, if I was the type to invest in the stock market I'd be buying dension right now.
FYI they're a hungarian company I believe.
You do realise that in a lot of Europe (where the smart comes from) the Ford escort is about average, if not above average, in terms of car size?
In Britain a lot of us drive Ford Fiestas and Peugot 206's and the like because they are economical and you don't need a hulking beast of a car. I drive a Ford Ka.
And the smart has a very good safety record. It's a very modern well designed small car. I personally wouldn't be seen dead in one 'cos I think they're ugly......
There's two I know of, Sega World at trocadero and Namco on the south bank. That's it. The original poster was massively exaggerating.
LZW was a significant acheivement, significantly novel and inventive, and it is a specific implementation of file compression. I feel it deserves some protect if the author wishes it. This sort of thing allows people to invest significantly in finding of new ways of acheiving things like compression with some recourse to profit to recap investment afterwards. This encourages innovation. I'm not sure the current duration of patents is appropriate here.
However end results should not be patentable. You should not be able to patent the idea of compressing a file - it is obvious and would stifle anyone wanting to implement it.
I don't have facts and figures, do you?
The problem is that it would cover business methods such as "One click ordering", something that allows someone visiting an e-commerce site to order an item with a single click. This is an obvious idea and should not be pantentable. The exact logic behind it should be (and is) covered by copyright law, but the idea shouldn't have any protection. In the US it does. This means that regardless of how it is implemented in software, no-one other than the patent owner (amazon) is able to have single click ordering. In the EU we'd like not to go down that road.
Algorithms that are non-obvious and required significant investment in effort and significant ingenuity (FFT, LZW, various others) do seem to merit some protection. They are fundamentally different from the software patents talked about here though, as they are specific methods of acheiving something. LZW should be patentable (and was, and has expired now). The idea of file compression should not be. That is the difference.
LOL, good trolling, but a bit too formulaic. Better luck next time.
This isn't just something encountered online though is it?
When it transfers itself to an EU citizen's PC and runs in the background collecting information it is acting within the EU. The EU could conceivably extradite the people responsible for this and try them as crimes have been comitted in the EU as surely as a cracker gaining illegal entry to an EU government computer from a terminal in the US has comitted a crime.
Mindless, pointless violence hasn't been done much before :)
usuall yonec an worl out whart theymesn.