Yep, they'll push for DRM on all windows computers and proprietary standards for all documents that will prevent windows documents from being even viewable in linux. I would not eb suprised at all if it turns out that this was an intentional leak by M$.
Who could ever imagine source code having the same warnings as porn: its frowned upon and can ruin you but in the secrecy of your own home many can't help but take a peek.
Btw, I haven't even dled the source let alone see it so I'm safe I guess. Though really, how many suits are decided on who is right rather than who has the better more expensive lawyers. Whether any given person sees it or not, the developers of wine and probably any future version of linux are going to get blamed anyway and dragged into court simply becuase they won't be able to afford lawyers to defend themselves against the M$ heavyweights. So going ape shit about not looking at the code is important but we have to face the facts that it probably still won't protect us. But for the mere fact alone that if you look at it you won't be able to resist the powers of the darkside to copy some of the better algorithms (if there are any) and hence blind yourself to your own brilliance in coming up with your own possibly (probably) better solutions is enough to stop most of us from looking at the code. You want to study source code to an OS? Then study Linux. You not only won't get in trouble form copying from it (unless its the parts owned by SCO assuming there are any) and you will most likely be learning from superior code. Really who studies from a stolen second rate textbook when they can easily view a first rate one for free?
That's my point. You can compile 300 gb of source into 600 mbs of binary if the source has a whole lot of white space (or a very verbose syntax like COBOL.) I was trying to be funny.
Doesn't matter if you zip it twice or a hundred time, you'll only get about 1% compression after the first time (the compression of the zip header files of the zip archive).
It doesn't really matter if it is real or not. How difficult will it be to prove you had some type of access to it. You just posted to a slashdot story about it. With a good enough legal team (which M$ will have) they could proabbly pin it on you already. In addition, how many different ways are there to implment something. I would imagine that the code that allows Windows to run windows applications are very similiar to the code that allows wine to run windows applications. You have code, you have to translate it to something executable, hiow many way can one do that translation. If you looked at the code or if you didn't, the code you wrote would probably in the end look the same.
What did you expect him to say? "We're all screwed, dump your stock now!"??? If he so much as hinted at the possibility that it was real (even if he knew otherwise) do you really think he'd say it? If he even hinted at it, the stock prices would take a hit...
Funny, that's what my parent's said about porn. Only you need to replace company with 'nice girl' and 'liability to any' with 'impossible to get in pants of any'
I could hear duke nukem voice in my head the moment I read the headline "Let's rock!". If this is true it is going to be so f***ing cool. Post apocalyptic/Post digital Pearl Harbor fanatasies unite!
1. Use open source products which you can modify if need-be. For example, you can have your tech support modify it to make it better fit your business needs (compared to trying to modify your business to fit around a microsoft software solution) or if a bug is doscovered you could either wait for the developement team that orginally made it to fix it or you could fix it yourself. Heck, you could even have your tech guys go through the code themsleves looking for security holes to fix.
2. Use closed source. If a bug appears, your at the mercy of Microsoft to fix it. That may mean months waiting while your system is vulnerable. No way to find the bugs, no way to fix them yourself. Your business could be relying on a time bomb and not even know it. And of course, with only the MS guys looking for holes, the chance they'll miss them is greater. More eyes scanning code usually means less bugs. And any time Microsoft could decide to drop the product or force you to upgrade or pay overcharged rates for licenses, all at Balmer's whims. Going with closed source is putting your business at the mercy of Microsoft (yes, I know closed source != just microsoft but what is easier: to type closed source or to simply type MS?)
First of all you don't entirely need them. I already know for a fact that you read stories on slashdot about RFID tags! I can also surmise that a few of the posters are buying more tinfoil than they would normally need.
RFIDS? What do you think cookies are? The concept of RFIDs has efectively been on the net for years. And for you tinfoil hat ppl: They have been monitoring us liek rats for years... people have been taken, things have been done to them, now there walking gap advertisements...
Welcome to First National Bank. We can see that you recently purchased two semi automatics, two ski masks, and a used car. How much will you be withdrawing today?
It all depends on what they do with the info. If only suncoast keeps the info that is great but if you start getting visits from Darth Ashcroft becuase you bought the collectors edition of Lawerence of Arabia then you'll start to see the problem.
Apple could start requiring its users to get 666 tattoos or big-brother-monitor implants and peoplke would still continue to whorship at the altar of Jobs.
Sounds great to me. All I'll have to do is find a way to fool the computers into thinking I am Bill Gates or Hillary Rosen and it will be round the clock shopping sprees for me!
Actually, Clinton is at fault for allowing the recession by not better managing the economy during his presidency. However, Dubba is also at fault becuase not only is his economic plan not working (possibly because he is way out of touch with such basic concepts as reality) but because it most likely is making matters worse. Tax cuts for the wealthy are contributing to record budget deficits, expensive wars that were based on his own opinions when the intel indicated those opinions were wrong make those deficits even worse, and now we get the message that outsourcing is not only not bad for the average american but is a thing to be encouraged (overall economically that might be a good thing but just because it is good for the economy does not make it good for the american people.) Even us republicans are starting to turn against him...
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Okay, I'll admit it... I look at porn. Haven't looked at the MS source though.
Yep, they'll push for DRM on all windows computers and proprietary standards for all documents that will prevent windows documents from being even viewable in linux. I would not eb suprised at all if it turns out that this was an intentional leak by M$.
Who could ever imagine source code having the same warnings as porn: its frowned upon and can ruin you but in the secrecy of your own home many can't help but take a peek.
Btw, I haven't even dled the source let alone see it so I'm safe I guess. Though really, how many suits are decided on who is right rather than who has the better more expensive lawyers. Whether any given person sees it or not, the developers of wine and probably any future version of linux are going to get blamed anyway and dragged into court simply becuase they won't be able to afford lawyers to defend themselves against the M$ heavyweights. So going ape shit about not looking at the code is important but we have to face the facts that it probably still won't protect us. But for the mere fact alone that if you look at it you won't be able to resist the powers of the darkside to copy some of the better algorithms (if there are any) and hence blind yourself to your own brilliance in coming up with your own possibly (probably) better solutions is enough to stop most of us from looking at the code. You want to study source code to an OS? Then study Linux. You not only won't get in trouble form copying from it (unless its the parts owned by SCO assuming there are any) and you will most likely be learning from superior code. Really who studies from a stolen second rate textbook when they can easily view a first rate one for free?
That's my point. You can compile 300 gb of source into 600 mbs of binary if the source has a whole lot of white space (or a very verbose syntax like COBOL.) I was trying to be funny.
http://news.com.com/2100-7349_3-5158496.html?tag=n efd_lede
"How can 300 gigs of source compile down to a nice CD-sized bundle of software?"
Lots of white space?
The Ballmer qoute was taken from a new article from 2000. The itvibe page has since been updated with the 'update' being removed.
Doesn't matter if you zip it twice or a hundred time, you'll only get about 1% compression after the first time (the compression of the zip header files of the zip archive).
By 'it doesn't matter if it is real or not' I mean the accusation that you viewed the source code.
It doesn't really matter if it is real or not. How difficult will it be to prove you had some type of access to it. You just posted to a slashdot story about it. With a good enough legal team (which M$ will have) they could proabbly pin it on you already. In addition, how many different ways are there to implment something. I would imagine that the code that allows Windows to run windows applications are very similiar to the code that allows wine to run windows applications. You have code, you have to translate it to something executable, hiow many way can one do that translation. If you looked at the code or if you didn't, the code you wrote would probably in the end look the same.
See above a couple of posts. The 'update' is a qoute from a news article from about 4 years ago.
But the so called 'update' qoutes a new article from 2000.
What did you expect him to say? "We're all screwed, dump your stock now!"??? If he so much as hinted at the possibility that it was real (even if he knew otherwise) do you really think he'd say it? If he even hinted at it, the stock prices would take a hit...
forgot the 'sue', damn i need to get more sleep. 3 hours a night ain't cutting it.
forgot the 'use'. just another unnamed victim of the backspace button.
If this is real, I doubt MS could us all.
Funny, that's what my parent's said about porn. Only you need to replace company with 'nice girl' and 'liability to any' with 'impossible to get in pants of any'
I could hear duke nukem voice in my head the moment I read the headline "Let's rock!". If this is true it is going to be so f***ing cool. Post apocalyptic/Post digital Pearl Harbor fanatasies unite!
1. Use open source products which you can modify if need-be. For example, you can have your tech support modify it to make it better fit your business needs (compared to trying to modify your business to fit around a microsoft software solution) or if a bug is doscovered you could either wait for the developement team that orginally made it to fix it or you could fix it yourself. Heck, you could even have your tech guys go through the code themsleves looking for security holes to fix.
2. Use closed source. If a bug appears, your at the mercy of Microsoft to fix it. That may mean months waiting while your system is vulnerable. No way to find the bugs, no way to fix them yourself. Your business could be relying on a time bomb and not even know it. And of course, with only the MS guys looking for holes, the chance they'll miss them is greater. More eyes scanning code usually means less bugs. And any time Microsoft could decide to drop the product or force you to upgrade or pay overcharged rates for licenses, all at Balmer's whims. Going with closed source is putting your business at the mercy of Microsoft (yes, I know closed source != just microsoft but what is easier: to type closed source or to simply type MS?)
First of all you don't entirely need them. I already know for a fact that you read stories on slashdot about RFID tags! I can also surmise that a few of the posters are buying more tinfoil than they would normally need.
RFIDS? What do you think cookies are? The concept of RFIDs has efectively been on the net for years. And for you tinfoil hat ppl: They have been monitoring us liek rats for years... people have been taken, things have been done to them, now there walking gap advertisements...
Welcome to First National Bank. We can see that you recently purchased two semi automatics, two ski masks, and a used car. How much will you be withdrawing today?
It all depends on what they do with the info. If only suncoast keeps the info that is great but if you start getting visits from Darth Ashcroft becuase you bought the collectors edition of Lawerence of Arabia then you'll start to see the problem.
Apple could start requiring its users to get 666 tattoos or big-brother-monitor implants and peoplke would still continue to whorship at the altar of Jobs.
Sounds great to me. All I'll have to do is find a way to fool the computers into thinking I am Bill Gates or Hillary Rosen and it will be round the clock shopping sprees for me!
Actually, Clinton is at fault for allowing the recession by not better managing the economy during his presidency. However, Dubba is also at fault becuase not only is his economic plan not working (possibly because he is way out of touch with such basic concepts as reality) but because it most likely is making matters worse. Tax cuts for the wealthy are contributing to record budget deficits, expensive wars that were based on his own opinions when the intel indicated those opinions were wrong make those deficits even worse, and now we get the message that outsourcing is not only not bad for the average american but is a thing to be encouraged (overall economically that might be a good thing but just because it is good for the economy does not make it good for the american people.) Even us republicans are starting to turn against him...