The grossest thing about meat in the grocery store is all the chemicals they have to spray the meat down with to kill all the bad stuff and disease picked up from the animal from living in such poor conditions.
Well that's a load of shit. Please, do tell us which horrible horrible "chemicals" are sprayed on these poor diseased carcases, exactly. Maybe you could also link to a peer-reviewed study showing the significantly higher incidence of disease amongst animals raised using different methods. Go ahead, I'll wait.
I read this post before I even seen the name and immediately recognized poor trolling.
I never sparked the initial debate but I'd enjoy the chance of putting you in your place, again, this time regarding the incidence of disease due to farming techniques. It's a well known fact that large scale factory farming employs antibiotics to control disease. The animals are kept in crowded and unsanitary conditions. In addition they are often fed an improper diet. Yes, an improper diet! Corn fed beef gets fatter faster which translates into more dollars. On the other hand cattle aren't use to the corn diet and the change in acidity promotes E. Coli growth in the intestine, hence the need for antibiotics.
I could go on but this should be sufficient data for you to do your own research. Go ahead, I'll wait for the rebuttal.
I could just imagine 40 million Americans coming into Canada, then accepting our hospitality, and then saying, "No, we'll do it our way. We're the majority now."
>>>This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. A normal alarm clock runs on 110V, everyone knows this.
A normal alarm clock runs on whatever voltage it was designed for. Usually, they are designed for the national grids of the countries where they are to be sold. Clocks to be sold in the US run on 110V, clocks to be sold in most other locations run on 220-230V.
Since the advent of switching power supplies, this distinction is usually moot as most electronics are now designed to accept any voltage between 110v and 230v with either 50 or 60Hz line frequency. Eliminates the logistics hassle.
You should put more effort into your sarcasm detection algorithm.
I don't understand why you use a phone as an alarm clock. For one it depends on a single power supply, or you have to charge it overnight next to your bed. Second, it uses software prone to bugs. I use a normal alarm clock on 220V, with a backup battery. It invariably goes of in time...
This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. A normal alarm clock runs on 110V, everyone knows this.
What's to excuse? Bugs happen, they get fixed. This one becomes a non-issue in two more days.
-jcr
I have a Despair Inc. poster hanging in my office that was made just for people like you -
"Mediocrity: It takes a lot less time and most people won't notice the difference until it's too late."
1. There is nothing unexpected about a new year, guess what... there's going to be a new one in 364 days. 2. This isn't the first time this has happened. 3. This isn't even a hard problem to solve OR test.
Targeted application of laws which are not generally enforced should be the most terrifying thing in the world to you if you worry about a police state evolving. The general lack of enforcement means that the public is unaware and/or unconcerned about the law, meaning penalties can be stiff, and that violations are common because the general public doesn't know any better. The upshot being that nearly anyone the police or judiciary doesn't like can be thrown into prison for decades, which is practically the definition of a police state, and the scary thing is that it already exists in the good old US of A. The wiretap laws are hardly the most commonly used for this purpose, but the ridiculous penalties (can easily be 100 years in prison if you have multiple offenses) make it one of the most terrifying.
Parent is absolutely right. I think the rule should be that ALL laws are applied in order of their severity at all times.
If there was a stupid law about being drunk in public and everyone who walked from a bar into a cab got a ticket during that 5ft walk... I bet the laws would be changed in a hurry. Yet, as it stands, a cop can selectively apply these ridiculous laws to effectively harass anyone they want.
The only way laws change is if the general public stands up to them. If they cherry pick people to abuse then they mostly go unnoticed.
Thank you, my children are grown. The free world shouldn't be exposing porn to children. I did my job. Others need to, as well.
Postbigbang has quite a few pro-censorship posts. At first I assumed he was some over protective first time parent with young children.
Turns out he is just a douche-bag trying to impose his views on everyone else. If his kids had grown up well adjusted he probably would have the attitude: "kids will be kids" or "it's natural to be curious" and think nothing more of it. For him to have grown up kids and feel this strongly leads me to believe his kids are maladjusted and he's trying to overcompensate for what he feels led to their downfall.
When I was a kid we use to sneak porn mags all the time... everyone in our group did and we turned out fine (aside from trolling Slashdot).
Performing a search or visiting a website seems pretty opt-in to me. If you turn on your computer and it just starts displaying porn on it's own, it's probably malware and all bets are off anyway.
That's not malware. It's just my girls of Thailand screensaver.
There's money in hijacking typo domains. A few years ago I meant to go to www.gamefaqs.com, accidentally typed www.gamefaws.com and ended up on a gay porn site.
Damn those www.gamefaws.com hijackers... always trying to steal users from my www.gamefags.com domain!!!
> * 750.000-800.000 metric tones of packaging get recycled every year.
Am I the only one annoyed by the term "metric ton"?
It's a megagram or Mg! And don't top it off with thousands of metric tons. That's just gigagrams! If people can learn the prefixes for bytes they can apply them like they're suppose to for other units.
Sorry for the bytes analogy, the IEC binary prefixes is another can of worms.
This is the 3rd article today mentioning them. Why is anyone even paying attention to them? Give them anonymity with obscurity. If these are just a bunch of rotten 12 year olds, then ignore them and maybe they'll grow up. Assuming Wikileaks is a good cause, was it even worth it to "hit" Amazon, Mastercard, and PayPal?
First they came for our telephone conversations, and I didn't speak up because I *had nothing to hide*.
First they came for liquids over 100mL, and I didn't speak up because I could purchase a new bottle inside the terminal for $3.50.
Then they came for X-Ray pictures, and I didn't speak up because X-Ray radiation will only cause cancer in 1 of 30M cases.
Then they came for leaked transcriptions of their own wrong doings, and I didn't speak up... because I am a:
a) Raging pussy to cowardly to stand up for injustice b) indifferent a-hole living off the hard work of others that built the system c) Enabler who wants to be controlled because freedom offers paralyzing choices d) Reactionary that never really though out the comment
If you repeat it often enough, maybe someday it will come true!
History has already proven, based on the US past, and the effect of "war costs" on the economy, that it was true; for example World War II brought the US out of depression, if not for that, the recession condition would have lasted well into the 21st century.
In this case the US, with its factories in tact, was the window maker AND the rest of Europe, with a bombed out infrastructure, was the broken window.
Sure the US came out ahead on this... it was at the expense of Europe. There was huge demand to rebuild Europe and no factories to do it. However, on the whole the world economy was set back.
It's too bad we already built cities and housing for 6.7 billion people. Maybe next time we could re-start with this in mind.
The concept was quite popular in Chicago: "A UNIVERSAL FREIGHT STATION on the Chicago freight tunnel system. Four of these freight stations give the general public access to the tunnel services. The tunnels link up with all the city's railway goods termini, and many private warehouses and stores also have direct links with the freight tunnels. These connexions consist of shafts and elevators that bring the tunnel cars up to ground level." http://mikes.railhistory.railfan.net/r047.html
I believe Capone used a similar system during the prohibition. Although his motive was more stealth over efficiency,
It just means that it’s easier for honest CEOs to run an honest business, if the dishonest businesses are more effected negatively by leaks than honest businesses.
Obfuscant - Well, there you go. You just disproved your own thesis statement.
Let's say you run a small, ethical powdered milk company. Your competition starts cutting their milk powder with something bad. Here's what happens, not necessarily in this order:
The public is informed of this danger, and starts to associate "powdered milk" with "poison" and your sales plummet, even though you aren't the company doing the adulterating.
Have you considered changing your name to the more appropriate variant: Obfuscunt?
You have over 6 posts in this thread alone and 0 valid points.
This is a quote from the article which sums it up nicely:
Q: What do you think WikiLeaks mean for business? How do businesses need to adjust to a world where WikiLeaks exists?
A: WikiLeaks means it’s easier to run a good business and harder to run a bad business, and all CEOs should be encouraged by this. I think about the case in China where milk powder companies started cutting the protein in milk powder with plastics. That happened at a number of separate manufacturers.
Let’s say you want to run a good company. It’s nice to have an ethical workplace. Your employees are much less likely to screw you over if they’re not screwing other people over.
Then one company starts cutting their milk powder with melamine, and becomes more profitable. You can follow suit, or slowly go bankrupt and the one that’s cutting its milk powder will take you over. That’s the worst of all possible outcomes.
The other possibility is that the first one to cut its milk powder is exposed. Then you don’t have to cut your milk powder. There’s a threat of regulation that produces self-regulation.
It just means that it’s easier for honest CEOs to run an honest business, if the dishonest businesses are more effected negatively by leaks than honest businesses. That’s the whole idea. In the struggle between open and honest companies and dishonest and closed companies, we’re creating a tremendous reputational tax on the unethical companies.
Looks like a good time to short some US banks. Technically this is public information.
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Travel season is starting. That's why. Not to mention the pat-down is now an "enhanced" pat-down. Correct me if I'm wrong on the "enhanced" pat-down being a semi-recent change.
It's new and it's great! This TSA agent is a hero for following the rules. Sometimes playing badly for the other team is MORE effective than playing well for your own team.
This is the best news yet. Now the "Think of the Children" bastards that condone this garbage in the first place have to start re-thinking their cause.
Protest all you want but ONE guy taking a job for the TSA and following their own rules to the letter would do more for the cause of freedom than 100 vocal citizens.
I'm sure there's a video floating-around to back-up the website..... if not that specific event, then another one where a citizen is having his/her computer scanned for nudie pics. Doesn't Australia have a similar law that carrying even one photo of a topless woman across international border is a crime? I wouldn't be surprised if Canada has the same restriction.
Just now I heard on the radio that an American is being punished $11,000 by the U.S.G. because he refused to be scanned, or prodded, and they told him, "You cannot fly." So he canceled his ticket, got a refund, left the airport, and was arrested.
Apparently once you enter an air terminal, you no longer have any rights... except to submit to the US Gestapo.
That was John Tyner. He wasn't arrested for refusing to be scanned or patted down and as of Nov. 16, 2010 had not been fined. Please cite your source.
If it's not something that can be handled in the courts, (being a dick hasn't been made illegal, last time I checked) then Verizon may well open themselves up to a lawsuit for helping Wikipedia with this "wrongdoing".
In fact, this isn't even vandalism. Using chalk on a sidewalk is not considered vandalism because it washes away and isn't permanent. The same could be said about Wiki edits that can easily be undone. Close the system to anonymous edits or STFU.
I've dug ditches for a living and built houses for a living and done grunt work for a kitchen installation company. Whoever is considering sitting around in an air conditioned office and cranking out.NET code "shit labor" has a severe reality deficit disorder.
Try debugging poorly written Perl code - there is such a thing as "shit labor" even in an air conditioned office.
If those are the only criteria used, then by your definition solitary confinement in prison would be a sweet gig.
And it depends on their respective type of forming a solid object how much they actually weigh. A crystal of n atoms is a little lighter than n atoms of the same isotope as a fluid or a gas.
There are some absolute constants in the universe, the speed of light in a vacuum, planks constant, the charge of an electron. These things will NEVER change over time AND can be measured anywhere in the universe without a reference object.
Look into "Natural Units", there have been several attempts to define the basic units: mass, time, length, temperature...
14K sounds like a pretty good deal for Google. That's less than 2 months of salary for even an intermediate tester.
The grossest thing about meat in the grocery store is all the chemicals they have to spray the meat down with to kill all the bad stuff and disease picked up from the animal from living in such poor conditions.
Well that's a load of shit. Please, do tell us which horrible horrible "chemicals" are sprayed on these poor diseased carcases, exactly. Maybe you could also link to a peer-reviewed study showing the significantly higher incidence of disease amongst animals raised using different methods. Go ahead, I'll wait.
I read this post before I even seen the name and immediately recognized poor trolling.
I never sparked the initial debate but I'd enjoy the chance of putting you in your place, again, this time regarding the incidence of disease due to farming techniques. It's a well known fact that large scale factory farming employs antibiotics to control disease. The animals are kept in crowded and unsanitary conditions. In addition they are often fed an improper diet. Yes, an improper diet! Corn fed beef gets fatter faster which translates into more dollars. On the other hand cattle aren't use to the corn diet and the change in acidity promotes E. Coli growth in the intestine, hence the need for antibiotics.
I could go on but this should be sufficient data for you to do your own research. Go ahead, I'll wait for the rebuttal.
I could just imagine 40 million Americans coming into Canada, then accepting our hospitality, and then saying, "No, we'll do it our way. We're the majority now."
It worked for the Asians in Vancouver.
>>>This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. A normal alarm clock runs on 110V, everyone knows this.
A normal alarm clock runs on whatever voltage it was designed for. Usually, they are designed for the national grids of the countries where they are to be sold. Clocks to be sold in the US run on 110V, clocks to be sold in most other locations run on 220-230V.
Since the advent of switching power supplies, this distinction is usually moot as most electronics are now designed to accept any voltage between 110v and 230v with either 50 or 60Hz line frequency. Eliminates the logistics hassle.
You should put more effort into your sarcasm detection algorithm.
I don't understand why you use a phone as an alarm clock. For one it depends on a single power supply, or you have to charge it overnight next to your bed. Second, it uses software prone to bugs. I use a normal alarm clock on 220V, with a backup battery. It invariably goes of in time...
This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. A normal alarm clock runs on 110V, everyone knows this.
What's to excuse? Bugs happen, they get fixed. This one becomes a non-issue in two more days.
-jcr
I have a Despair Inc. poster hanging in my office that was made just for people like you -
"Mediocrity: It takes a lot less time and most people won't notice the difference until it's too late."
1. There is nothing unexpected about a new year, guess what... there's going to be a new one in 364 days.
2. This isn't the first time this has happened.
3. This isn't even a hard problem to solve OR test.
Targeted application of laws which are not generally enforced should be the most terrifying thing in the world to you if you worry about a police state evolving. The general lack of enforcement means that the public is unaware and/or unconcerned about the law, meaning penalties can be stiff, and that violations are common because the general public doesn't know any better. The upshot being that nearly anyone the police or judiciary doesn't like can be thrown into prison for decades, which is practically the definition of a police state, and the scary thing is that it already exists in the good old US of A. The wiretap laws are hardly the most commonly used for this purpose, but the ridiculous penalties (can easily be 100 years in prison if you have multiple offenses) make it one of the most terrifying.
Parent is absolutely right. I think the rule should be that ALL laws are applied in order of their severity at all times.
If there was a stupid law about being drunk in public and everyone who walked from a bar into a cab got a ticket during that 5ft walk... I bet the laws would be changed in a hurry. Yet, as it stands, a cop can selectively apply these ridiculous laws to effectively harass anyone they want.
The only way laws change is if the general public stands up to them. If they cherry pick people to abuse then they mostly go unnoticed.
Thank you, my children are grown. The free world shouldn't be exposing porn to children. I did my job. Others need to, as well.
Postbigbang has quite a few pro-censorship posts. At first I assumed he was some over protective first time parent with young children.
Turns out he is just a douche-bag trying to impose his views on everyone else. If his kids had grown up well adjusted he probably would have the attitude: "kids will be kids" or "it's natural to be curious" and think nothing more of it. For him to have grown up kids and feel this strongly leads me to believe his kids are maladjusted and he's trying to overcompensate for what he feels led to their downfall.
When I was a kid we use to sneak porn mags all the time... everyone in our group did and we turned out fine (aside from trolling Slashdot).
So how messed up are your kids?
Performing a search or visiting a website seems pretty opt-in to me. If you turn on your computer and it just starts displaying porn on it's own, it's probably malware and all bets are off anyway.
That's not malware. It's just my girls of Thailand screensaver.
There's money in hijacking typo domains. A few years ago I meant to go to www.gamefaqs.com, accidentally typed www.gamefaws.com and ended up on a gay porn site.
Damn those www.gamefaws.com hijackers... always trying to steal users from my www.gamefags.com domain!!!
> * 750.000-800.000 metric tones of packaging get recycled every year.
Am I the only one annoyed by the term "metric ton"?
It's a megagram or Mg! And don't top it off with thousands of metric tons. That's just gigagrams! If people can learn the prefixes for bytes they can apply them like they're suppose to for other units.
Sorry for the bytes analogy, the IEC binary prefixes is another can of worms.
This is the 3rd article today mentioning them. Why is anyone even paying attention to them? Give them anonymity with obscurity. If these are just a bunch of rotten 12 year olds, then ignore them and maybe they'll grow up. Assuming Wikileaks is a good cause, was it even worth it to "hit" Amazon, Mastercard, and PayPal?
First they came for our telephone conversations,
and I didn't speak up because I *had nothing to hide*.
First they came for liquids over 100mL,
and I didn't speak up because I could purchase a new bottle inside the terminal for $3.50.
Then they came for X-Ray pictures,
and I didn't speak up because X-Ray radiation will only cause cancer in 1 of 30M cases.
Then they came for leaked transcriptions of their own wrong doings,
and I didn't speak up... because I am a:
a) Raging pussy to cowardly to stand up for injustice
b) indifferent a-hole living off the hard work of others that built the system
c) Enabler who wants to be controlled because freedom offers paralyzing choices
d) Reactionary that never really though out the comment
I don't know if a lifetime of being stabbed in the balls is preferable to a lifetime of insulin injections.
Well it was David Carradine's second favorite hobby, hey what happened to him anyways?
If you repeat it often enough, maybe someday it will come true!
History has already proven, based on the US past, and the effect of "war costs" on the economy, that it was true; for example World War II brought the US out of depression, if not for that, the recession condition would have lasted well into the 21st century.
In this case the US, with its factories in tact, was the window maker AND the rest of Europe, with a bombed out infrastructure, was the broken window.
Sure the US came out ahead on this... it was at the expense of Europe. There was huge demand to rebuild Europe and no factories to do it. However, on the whole the world economy was set back.
It's too bad we already built cities and housing for 6.7 billion people. Maybe next time we could re-start with this in mind.
The concept was quite popular in Chicago: "A UNIVERSAL FREIGHT STATION on the Chicago freight tunnel system. Four of these freight stations give the general public access to the tunnel services. The tunnels link up with all the city's railway goods termini, and many private warehouses and stores also have direct links with the freight tunnels. These connexions consist of shafts and elevators that bring the tunnel cars up to ground level."
http://mikes.railhistory.railfan.net/r047.html
I believe Capone used a similar system during the prohibition. Although his motive was more stealth over efficiency,
Even today transporting "goods" via underground tunnels remains popular :)
http://articles.cnn.com/2006-01-26/us/mexico.tunnel_1_tunnel-task-force-cross-border-tunnels-lauren-mack?_s=PM:US
It just means that it’s easier for honest CEOs to run an honest business, if the dishonest businesses are more effected negatively by leaks than honest businesses.
Obfuscant -
Well, there you go. You just disproved your own thesis statement.
Let's say you run a small, ethical powdered milk company. Your competition starts cutting their milk powder with something bad. Here's what happens, not necessarily in this order:
Have you considered changing your name to the more appropriate variant: Obfuscunt?
You have over 6 posts in this thread alone and 0 valid points.
Wikileaks is embarassing [sic] everyone who deserves it (in the U.S.)
From the article it doesn't appear they are after the US in particular, that's just where a lot of their information is coming from.
Q: Continuing then: The tech industry?
A: We have some material on spying by a major government on the tech industry. Industrial espionage.
Q: U.S.? China?
A: The U.S. is one of the victims.
This is a quote from the article which sums it up nicely:
Q: What do you think WikiLeaks mean for business? How do businesses need to adjust to a world where WikiLeaks exists?
A: WikiLeaks means it’s easier to run a good business and harder to run a bad business, and all CEOs should be encouraged by this. I think about the case in China where milk powder companies started cutting the protein in milk powder with plastics. That happened at a number of separate manufacturers.
Let’s say you want to run a good company. It’s nice to have an ethical workplace. Your employees are much less likely to screw you over if they’re not screwing other people over.
Then one company starts cutting their milk powder with melamine, and becomes more profitable. You can follow suit, or slowly go bankrupt and the one that’s cutting its milk powder will take you over. That’s the worst of all possible outcomes.
The other possibility is that the first one to cut its milk powder is exposed. Then you don’t have to cut your milk powder. There’s a threat of regulation that produces self-regulation.
It just means that it’s easier for honest CEOs to run an honest business, if the dishonest businesses are more effected negatively by leaks than honest businesses. That’s the whole idea. In the struggle between open and honest companies and dishonest and closed companies, we’re creating a tremendous reputational tax on the unethical companies.
Looks like a good time to short some US banks. Technically this is public information.
Travel season is starting. That's why. Not to mention the pat-down is now an "enhanced" pat-down. Correct me if I'm wrong on the "enhanced" pat-down being a semi-recent change.
It's new and it's great! This TSA agent is a hero for following the rules. Sometimes playing badly for the other team is MORE effective than playing well for your own team.
This is the best news yet. Now the "Think of the Children" bastards that condone this garbage in the first place have to start re-thinking their cause.
Protest all you want but ONE guy taking a job for the TSA and following their own rules to the letter would do more for the cause of freedom than 100 vocal citizens.
I'm sure there's a video floating-around to back-up the website..... if not that specific event, then another one where a citizen is having his/her computer scanned for nudie pics. Doesn't Australia have a similar law that carrying even one photo of a topless woman across international border is a crime? I wouldn't be surprised if Canada has the same restriction.
Just now I heard on the radio that an American is being punished $11,000 by the U.S.G. because he refused to be scanned, or prodded, and they told him, "You cannot fly." So he canceled his ticket, got a refund, left the airport, and was arrested.
Apparently once you enter an air terminal, you no longer have any rights... except to submit to the US Gestapo.
That was John Tyner. He wasn't arrested for refusing to be scanned or patted down and as of Nov. 16, 2010 had not been fined. Please cite your source.
If it's not something that can be handled in the courts, (being a dick hasn't been made illegal, last time I checked) then Verizon may well open themselves up to a lawsuit for helping Wikipedia with this "wrongdoing".
In fact, this isn't even vandalism. Using chalk on a sidewalk is not considered vandalism because it washes away and isn't permanent. The same could be said about Wiki edits that can easily be undone. Close the system to anonymous edits or STFU.
I've dug ditches for a living and built houses for a living and done grunt work for a kitchen installation company. Whoever is considering sitting around in an air conditioned office and cranking out .NET code "shit labor" has a severe reality deficit disorder.
Try debugging poorly written Perl code - there is such a thing as "shit labor" even in an air conditioned office.
If those are the only criteria used, then by your definition solitary confinement in prison would be a sweet gig.
So NO it not just as easy as snaking a cable from your PC.
I know all this becasue i spent the last decade trying to make a HTPC that is as easy to use as a plug-in piece of hardware.
Hahahah FAIL.
1) Buy a small quite box that can sit near your TV w/ HDMI and hi-def capabilities ....
a) Acer Revo
b) Zotac Mag
c)
2) Install XBMC
And it depends on their respective type of forming a solid object how much they actually weigh. A crystal of n atoms is a little lighter than n atoms of the same isotope as a fluid or a gas.
There are some absolute constants in the universe, the speed of light in a vacuum, planks constant, the charge of an electron. These things will NEVER change over time AND can be measured anywhere in the universe without a reference object.
Look into "Natural Units", there have been several attempts to define the basic units: mass, time, length, temperature...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_units