First, note defend, not attacking. So if i admit that i will protect my country am i guilty too?
Well that all depends. If you are a US citizen and you take up arms against your own country to protect another, then yes. If you are a citizen of the country you are supporting, then we would expect no less from you than to defend it.
Second, look at the sentence again and tell me what you would think about if it came from an US soldier.[He] and the others in the group were prepared to take up arms, and die [...] if necessary, to defend [a government].
You are forgetting that this is a case by the US government, so that is the persective from which you must interpret that sentence. If you were to fight against your own country, I'll bet they would take offense to it as well. There is no way that the "terrorism" card should have been played in this case, but his actions (if proved beyond a reasonable doubt) were treasonous none the less.
An example, it took me 10 seconds in 1995 to figure out how to share a folder in win95, but after almost an hour I gave up on getting samba to share properly in gentoo. I have a fair amount of Linux experience, and would count myself as knowing quite a lot about computers (I'm a software engineer), but I have no intention of learning all about smb just for getting a few files over.
Who says that SMB is the defacto standard for file sharing? Come back after you have made the same comparison using NFS.
Why are they hiring consultants and giving classes? I learned how to do it in 5th grade. All I need is a TV, a VCR, a few Ginger Lynn tapes and I'm good for hours.
Debian will remain my first choice for a server distro for its stability and for ease of maintenance (at least for me).
While I agree with your statement that Debian will never take over the desktop market, I disagree with the statement regarding Gentoo. Gentoo is a little too techie for Jane/Joe user. Gentoo's installation procedure is no piece of cake if you aren't an experienced Linux/Unix user. chroot, mke2fs, fdisk, etc. aren't tools that I could see any of my non-IT friends undertaking.
Please don't take this as a Gentoo flame. I think it is a fun distro with a lot of up to date packages. It's just that with today's hardware I really don't see the need to tailor my software for my architecture. The performance gains aren't worth waiting for the compiles to finish.
Well you could, but I don't think it would be a good idea.:-)
I am not directly involved with the desktop group here at my company, but I know that they have a huge infrastructure setup to maintain our desktops. It wasn't built overnight and changing over to another OS wouldn't be a menial task.
Let's see what hidden costs we can dig up...
How about bringing the current desktop support personnel up to speed on another OS? (They would have to know both for a small period of time during the cutover).
How about the re-building, or at least tweaking of the current support structure? (Patches, updates, remote management, software installation...)
How about training everyone in the US Army to use the new OS, as well as the new applications? (logging in, email, web)
How about porting the Core Army Applications to run on the new OS? (payroll, supply system, maintenance system, etc.)
There are more variables in the equation than the sticker price. They made their decision long ago to be a "Windows Shop".
Go ahead and say that to me...
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Vietnam? I'm hoping our government learned from that fiasco. Since you bring it up, Vietnam is a GREAT example of Americans standing up and disagreeing with their government. That is a freedom we Americans enjoy. So don't tell me that we sit idle and "watch the world go by".
Why do you say that the Israeli's provoke the attacks? I say that the Palestinians provoke retaliation when they blow up buses and kill women and children. It obviously doesn't matter who started it because neither side is willing to let the last act stand.
Why do they hate us? Because we are the "superpower-of-the-moment". People hate to see other people succeed when they are barely getting enough to eat. Unfortunately, the technology we invented has now enabled them to reach us. I say they stop blaming everyone else for their problems and deal with it. Not by blowing stuff up, anyone can do that. How about trying to better themselves and join the civilized(and I do use the term lightly) world.
Not ignorant, just disgusted. I've seen their culture and so far I'm not impressed. To blame the WTC attacks on the people of the US is about as ignorant as you can get. Bin Laden can stand on whatever moral ground he likes, but in the end, HE is the one who murdered 3000 innocent people.
Do we(Americans) want to go on with our daily lives and live in peace? Of course we do.
Do we bury our heads in the sand? No!
I believe that I shouldn't have to be involved in every decision my government makes. That's why we ELECT our government. To make international policy and deal with the day to day decisions for us. If we are not happy with how they do it, we ELECT new ones after their term is up. That's part of what our government is about.
Who are we killing? I don't see us murdering hundreds of thousands of anyone. I don't see us taking their land. If we really wanted to, we could steamroll the whole place, but we don't.
Why is it that you expect Americans to act on a higher moral standard, when it is acceptable for Bin Laden, Arafat or Hamas to come in well below that standard. Constantly a double standard with you sympathizers.
There is 1 problem with this solution. The problem is the belief that you are not replacable. Bottom line, everyone is replacable.
Get over it. You are not special. IT is not a mystery any more. There are TONS of unemployed, overqualified people looking for jobs right now that could come up to speed as your replacement in no time.
Comparing AirForce 1 to a commercial airline is like comparing a Formula 1 race car to a skateboard. Sure they both have wheels, does that make them the same?
AF1 can withstand EMP generated from a nuclear detonation. Civilian aircraft avionics don't even compare to their military counterparts. I would even venture to guess that the cell phones in use on Air Force 1 have been certified for use on that aircraft.
Last time I checked, KDE is still at 2.2 in testing/sarge.
Sure KDE 3.1.1 is in unstable/sid, but every time I have tried SID it has only led to broken packages and unmet dependency problems. Kinda feels like being in RPM hell.
The Debian installer is not as bad as it seems, but after installing SuSE, Debian has a long way to go to get the "user friendly" stamp.
As I said in another post, apt-get rules. I will definitely agree with you on that. There is nothing like a 2 command upgrade to your entire system.
There is a funny opinion that once you try Debian you will never go back. I tried Debian and have come to a couple conclusions. I really love apt-get and Debian sucks as a desktop distro.
Comparing Debian to Mandrake as far as a desktop distro is like comparing electric scooters to top-fule dragsters. I want KDE 3.11, I want XFree 4.3, I want all of the new GUI apps on my up to date desktop. Sure you can get these things for Debian but it always feels like a hack to me.
PS: I'm not intending this to be flamebait.
riiight... I really love that banner add on the top of my web browser. And you reply, "So you can pay for it and the banner goes away."
And I answer, "Why? I can get so many nice ones for free." I really like Phoenix and it seems to run pretty well on my system. I have tried Opera and am not very impressed. I don't like the feel. To each his own.
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I don't know if you can use that word in that context... How about fucked.
Yes, Viking did take very nice pictures. The pictures show more detail than I could ever dream of seeing with my naked eye.
BUT looking at a picture is nothing like looking at it with my own eye(s).
WHoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooo... ... lives in a pineapple under the sea?
Which is why gambling is pretty foolish huh? If you don't plan on losing all of your money, don't go.
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enough said...
Stop playing "The Great Satan".
Great Satan to who? When has it been wrong in the past to persue and protect your own interests. The Great Satan label is a joke.
Soon after, people will stop wanting to destroy you.
People will never happy with their situation and will always want to blame it on someone else.
they don't teach THAT kind of history at school. Just the George Washington crap.
Kinda like how swastikas are banned in good 'ol Deutschland huh? Not only is their history not spoken about, it is banned.
First, note defend, not attacking. So if i admit that i will protect my country am i guilty too?
Well that all depends. If you are a US citizen and you take up arms against your own country to protect another, then yes. If you are a citizen of the country you are supporting, then we would expect no less from you than to defend it.
Second, look at the sentence again and tell me what you would think about if it came from an US soldier.[He] and the others in the group were prepared to take up arms, and die [...] if necessary, to defend [a government].
You are forgetting that this is a case by the US government, so that is the persective from which you must interpret that sentence. If you were to fight against your own country, I'll bet they would take offense to it as well. There is no way that the "terrorism" card should have been played in this case, but his actions (if proved beyond a reasonable doubt) were treasonous none the less.
^^^ What he said!
Who says that SMB is the defacto standard for file sharing? Come back after you have made the same comparison using NFS.
Why are they hiring consultants and giving classes? I learned how to do it in 5th grade. All I need is a TV, a VCR, a few Ginger Lynn tapes and I'm good for hours.
OH, it says meditation...
Bottoms Up!
Sorry I don't have any mod points left. Someone give this a (+1 Funny) for me!
Debian will remain my first choice for a server distro for its stability and for ease of maintenance (at least for me).
While I agree with your statement that Debian will never take over the desktop market, I disagree with the statement regarding Gentoo. Gentoo is a little too techie for Jane/Joe user. Gentoo's installation procedure is no piece of cake if you aren't an experienced Linux/Unix user. chroot, mke2fs, fdisk, etc. aren't tools that I could see any of my non-IT friends undertaking.
Please don't take this as a Gentoo flame. I think it is a fun distro with a lot of up to date packages. It's just that with today's hardware I really don't see the need to tailor my software for my architecture. The performance gains aren't worth waiting for the compiles to finish.
Well you could, but I don't think it would be a good idea. :-)
I am not directly involved with the desktop group here at my company, but I know that they have a huge infrastructure setup to maintain our desktops. It wasn't built overnight and changing over to another OS wouldn't be a menial task.
Let's see what hidden costs we can dig up...
How about bringing the current desktop support personnel up to speed on another OS? (They would have to know both for a small period of time during the cutover).
How about the re-building, or at least tweaking of the current support structure? (Patches, updates, remote management, software installation...)
How about training everyone in the US Army to use the new OS, as well as the new applications? (logging in, email, web)
How about porting the Core Army Applications to run on the new OS? (payroll, supply system, maintenance system, etc.)
There are more variables in the equation than the sticker price. They made their decision long ago to be a "Windows Shop".
... and I will hit you with my cane!
Of course you're not...
Vietnam? I'm hoping our government learned from that fiasco. Since you bring it up, Vietnam is a GREAT example of Americans standing up and disagreeing with their government. That is a freedom we Americans enjoy. So don't tell me that we sit idle and "watch the world go by".
Why do you say that the Israeli's provoke the attacks? I say that the Palestinians provoke retaliation when they blow up buses and kill women and children. It obviously doesn't matter who started it because neither side is willing to let the last act stand.
Why do they hate us? Because we are the "superpower-of-the-moment". People hate to see other people succeed when they are barely getting enough to eat. Unfortunately, the technology we invented has now enabled them to reach us. I say they stop blaming everyone else for their problems and deal with it. Not by blowing stuff up, anyone can do that. How about trying to better themselves and join the civilized(and I do use the term lightly) world.
Not ignorant, just disgusted. I've seen their culture and so far I'm not impressed. To blame the WTC attacks on the people of the US is about as ignorant as you can get. Bin Laden can stand on whatever moral ground he likes, but in the end, HE is the one who murdered 3000 innocent people.
Do we(Americans) want to go on with our daily lives and live in peace? Of course we do.
Do we bury our heads in the sand? No!
I believe that I shouldn't have to be involved in every decision my government makes. That's why we ELECT our government. To make international policy and deal with the day to day decisions for us. If we are not happy with how they do it, we ELECT new ones after their term is up. That's part of what our government is about.
Who are we killing? I don't see us murdering hundreds of thousands of anyone. I don't see us taking their land. If we really wanted to, we could steamroll the whole place, but we don't.
Why is it that you expect Americans to act on a higher moral standard, when it is acceptable for Bin Laden, Arafat or Hamas to come in well below that standard. Constantly a double standard with you sympathizers.
There is 1 problem with this solution. The problem is the belief that you are not replacable. Bottom line, everyone is replacable.
Get over it. You are not special. IT is not a mystery any more. There are TONS of unemployed, overqualified people looking for jobs right now that could come up to speed as your replacement in no time.
I might be surprised when I see a pink slip sitting on my desk!
"I'm sorry sir, I didn't know your attachment was that important because I refused to open it because it had a .doc file extension."
Most companies set standards for document types, office packages, etc., and they also expect that you follow them.
Comparing AirForce 1 to a commercial airline is like comparing a Formula 1 race car to a skateboard. Sure they both have wheels, does that make them the same? AF1 can withstand EMP generated from a nuclear detonation. Civilian aircraft avionics don't even compare to their military counterparts. I would even venture to guess that the cell phones in use on Air Force 1 have been certified for use on that aircraft.
If you can't setup CUPS, then you sir, are an idiot! It is just as easy as installing a windows printer. Has been for a couple years actually.
Last time I checked, KDE is still at 2.2 in testing/sarge.
Sure KDE 3.1.1 is in unstable/sid, but every time I have tried SID it has only led to broken packages and unmet dependency problems. Kinda feels like being in RPM hell.
The Debian installer is not as bad as it seems, but after installing SuSE, Debian has a long way to go to get the "user friendly" stamp.
As I said in another post, apt-get rules. I will definitely agree with you on that. There is nothing like a 2 command upgrade to your entire system.
Just my 2 cents.
There is a funny opinion that once you try Debian you will never go back. I tried Debian and have come to a couple conclusions. I really love apt-get and Debian sucks as a desktop distro. Comparing Debian to Mandrake as far as a desktop distro is like comparing electric scooters to top-fule dragsters. I want KDE 3.11, I want XFree 4.3, I want all of the new GUI apps on my up to date desktop. Sure you can get these things for Debian but it always feels like a hack to me. PS: I'm not intending this to be flamebait.
riiight... I really love that banner add on the top of my web browser. And you reply, "So you can pay for it and the banner goes away."
And I answer, "Why? I can get so many nice ones for free." I really like Phoenix and it seems to run pretty well on my system. I have tried Opera and am not very impressed. I don't like the feel. To each his own.
...and I'm sure Microsoft would ignore an email that requested 10,000 copies of Windows XP because the request went to the wrong email address.
rrriiiiight...
I can't believe that anyone would actually defend MS for this balatant disregard for security.