It's so completely obvious that this model is better that I wonder why Jabber hasn't taken over the world already.
Probably for the same reason that Linux hasn't taken over the world already: the Open Source community has a really hard time with marketing.
If history has shown us anything, it's that any given product can not 'win' on technical merits alone; he who has the most $$$ in his marketing budget wins.
1. The protocol is openly documented; any schmuck can write a Jabber client without having to go to pains to reverse engineer a proprietary protocol.
2. The protocol is based on XML, so it's easily human-readible and readily extensible.
3. All of the Jabber clients that I know of are open source, with all of the benefits that that entails.
Though, one of the problems with your argument is that most people's JID's are @jabber.org, so even though the jabber network is totally distributed like email as you say, the Jabber folks do somehow manage to fund the jabber.org server without charging the users any money.
Well, there's a network effect that happens with IM protocols; if nobody uses AIM, there's no reason for anybody else to use it. The only reason I have an AIM account on my gaim buddy list is because I have a couple friends who use AIM. Theoretically, those people using AOL would derive less value from the service if they weren't able to chat with me.
Coincidentally, I don't have a YIM account, and I don't need one because I don't know anybody who does. Therefore, YIM loses.
I suppose you could customize your installation to include none.
Certainly! Linux is a *great* platform for restricting what programs your users can run!
Here are a few tips for preventing your employees from playing games on company time:
1. Make sure the users don't have permissions to install software (this is true by default). 2. Uninstall everything except what is necessary to perform their job. 3. Mount/home as noexec, so they won't be able to run any programs they install into their home directory.
That's about it. But I'd trust that setup more than I'd trust a windows box that was locked down with 3rd party software.
The movie was excellent as well! Your dad must have paid for it all, eh?
Lol, you're not paying enough attention:P
Yes, my dad took me out for the day. He had just helped me move, so we were spending some quality time together. Yeah, it was a great movie, first one I've seen in theatres in a while. But experiencing the anti-piracy ad really soured the whole experience.
Seems like you missed the part of my post where I said "I want to be able to just buy CDs and DVDs casually," but the problem is that the industry seems more content to alienate their customers than to cater to them, so I'm not going to support them any more.
Jesus Christ, if CDs were $3.99, I'd take a long look at my XMMS playlist and actually buy every single CD that I have a song from. And then 50 more on top of that.
Recently, my dad bought a CD for himself, and a CD for me (this was the same day that we saw the movie I was talking about in my last post...). The total price? ~$50 CDN.
Last theater movie I went to (Seabiscuit) they had an anti-piracy blurb at the beginning of the film.
YEAH! I fucking hate that!
I couple weeks ago, I went to see SWAT with my dad (excellent movie, BTW). At the beginning, we complained a bit about how expensive it was (tickets plus food must have cost us a good $30 CDN). Dad mentioned that he mostly just rents movies, and I mentioned that I mostly just download movies (we don't live with each other). He made a comment to the effect of "So you're a thief, eh?", and I wanted to go into a big spiel about how copyright infringement isn't theft, and it's a form of social disobedience to protest screwed up copyright laws and the industry ripping us off. But, you can't really have an enlightened debate about copyrights in the few moments before the movie starts, and just then, the previews started. There was a regular-looking guy being interviewed, explaining how he has a lot of pride in the movies he helps make (he was a set director or something), and he said something like, "Well, piracy doesn't really hurt the industry bigwigs because they're all rich anyway, but when I hear my movies are being pirated, a small piece of me dies inside." It was a total guilt-trip.
Personally, I refuse to support an industry that relies on guilting people into paying for overpriced crap. If they want to stop piracty for real, they can give me more and charge me less for it.
Which is a real bummer, because I was just setting up linux on my friend's computer the other day, and I was shocked with how easily I was able to get mplayer working on RH9 for him. All I did was use apt-rpm it ('apt-get install mplayer'), and it was totally installed. Then it just took a few extra minutes to configure RH to launch 'gmplayer dvd://' when a DVD is inserted, and associate it with the various file formats in nautilus. After that experience, I was all hot to go out and buy a DVD drive and a few DVDs for my own computer, but I'm glad I didn't.
Why?! Why must the industry be so fucking evil? I want to be able to just buy CDs and DVDs casually, but the industry's rabid anti-consumer behavior has put a bad taste in my mouth over the whole issue.
The Alberta government is currently using the notwithstanding clause to prevent homosexual marriages in Alberta.
The only thing worse than the fact that this is happening are the people writing letters to the editor saying how the Charter of Rights and Freedoms is a silly document that is only 20 years old, while we should all be obeying the Bible, which has been around for 2000 years and has proven it's worth...
civil rights are embedded in the constitution and are upheld.
Except that any province, on a whim, can choose not to honour any given "civil right", by invoking the notwithstanding clause of the charter of rights and freedoms.
If you haven't seen "1984" - WATCH IT, and be VERY AFRAID.
No, whatever you do, don't WATCH 1984, it's a terrible movie. Go READ 1984, it's a great book.
Then, go read Fahrenheit 451, and go watch Equilibrium, they have similar themes. I like to think of those two as '1984 as seen by the thought police', except they have better endings.:)
Enjoying music is not wrong! Technology has enabled music lovers to build the largest collections of music ever! With a large harddrive and a fast internet connection, it is painfully easy to develop a collection of music that would take months to listen to end-to-end.
Instead of providing users with a legitimate way of doing this, the RIAA has set out on a path to criminalise music lovers everywhere.
What I mean is, it's become apparent that CDs are just not convenient enough for people to buy lots of them; people want to pay for single-song downloads, and then only have exactly what songs they like. Instead of enabling this and making life good for consumers and artists alike, the RIAA is alienating EVERYBODY.
I suggest everybody go out and discover independant music. I've been surfing on iuma.com (Internet Underground Music Archive), and I've found lots of great music that the artists want you to download for free. It's free, it's legit, and it's not the cookie-cutter shite that the RIAA has been pushing lately.
So I say, fuck the RIAA. If they want to put all of their potential customers in jail, they can go out of business for all I care.
According to some of the theme screenshots I saw, most of the great Open Source applications have been ported: Internet Explorer, Outlook Express, Microsoft Office, etc. are all there.
But they're not even that, though; going to court will destroy them, they're a pump-and-dump company using the threat of lawsuits to inflate the stock price. Once IBM lays the smackdown in the courtroom, we'll never hear the word name "SCO" ever again.
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Well, I think the grandparent poster is more concerned about the loss of 34 perfectly good pounds of plutonium, which could have been put to better use.
Or maybe he's just worried about the native Jupiterians getting WMD:)
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It's so completely obvious that this model is better that I wonder why Jabber hasn't taken over the world already.
Probably for the same reason that Linux hasn't taken over the world already: the Open Source community has a really hard time with marketing.
If history has shown us anything, it's that any given product can not 'win' on technical merits alone; he who has the most $$$ in his marketing budget wins.
Yes indeedy, Jabber is good.
It has other advantages over other protocols:
1. The protocol is openly documented; any schmuck can write a Jabber client without having to go to pains to reverse engineer a proprietary protocol.
2. The protocol is based on XML, so it's easily human-readible and readily extensible.
3. All of the Jabber clients that I know of are open source, with all of the benefits that that entails.
Though, one of the problems with your argument is that most people's JID's are @jabber.org, so even though the jabber network is totally distributed like email as you say, the Jabber folks do somehow manage to fund the jabber.org server without charging the users any money.
Well, there's a network effect that happens with IM protocols; if nobody uses AIM, there's no reason for anybody else to use it. The only reason I have an AIM account on my gaim buddy list is because I have a couple friends who use AIM. Theoretically, those people using AOL would derive less value from the service if they weren't able to chat with me.
Coincidentally, I don't have a YIM account, and I don't need one because I don't know anybody who does. Therefore, YIM loses.
Respect for IP will decrease from the current high regard that people have for IP (as evidence by the success of Kazaa) to even lower depths.
I pee on IP!
Yeah, one guy out of 6 billion. My faith in humanity is totally restored!
(I'm not a lawyer, and I don't play one on TV)
So close, yet so far away...
I'm waiting for the day that somebody says "I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on Slashdot."
I suppose you could customize your installation to include none.
/home as noexec, so they won't be able to run any programs they install into their home directory.
Certainly! Linux is a *great* platform for restricting what programs your users can run!
Here are a few tips for preventing your employees from playing games on company time:
1. Make sure the users don't have permissions to install software (this is true by default).
2. Uninstall everything except what is necessary to perform their job.
3. Mount
That's about it. But I'd trust that setup more than I'd trust a windows box that was locked down with 3rd party software.
The movie was excellent as well! Your dad must have paid for it all, eh?
:P
Lol, you're not paying enough attention
Yes, my dad took me out for the day. He had just helped me move, so we were spending some quality time together. Yeah, it was a great movie, first one I've seen in theatres in a while. But experiencing the anti-piracy ad really soured the whole experience.
Seems like you missed the part of my post where I said "I want to be able to just buy CDs and DVDs casually," but the problem is that the industry seems more content to alienate their customers than to cater to them, so I'm not going to support them any more.
Just remember, don't change horses in mid-stream. On election day, re-elect the President!
Oh, and I forgot to mention, my XMMS playlist is ~75 hours long (and I only own about 15-20 CDs).
Jesus Christ, if CDs were $3.99, I'd take a long look at my XMMS playlist and actually buy every single CD that I have a song from. And then 50 more on top of that.
Recently, my dad bought a CD for himself, and a CD for me (this was the same day that we saw the movie I was talking about in my last post...). The total price? ~$50 CDN.
Never again.
Last theater movie I went to (Seabiscuit) they had an anti-piracy blurb at the beginning of the film.
YEAH! I fucking hate that!
I couple weeks ago, I went to see SWAT with my dad (excellent movie, BTW). At the beginning, we complained a bit about how expensive it was (tickets plus food must have cost us a good $30 CDN). Dad mentioned that he mostly just rents movies, and I mentioned that I mostly just download movies (we don't live with each other). He made a comment to the effect of "So you're a thief, eh?", and I wanted to go into a big spiel about how copyright infringement isn't theft, and it's a form of social disobedience to protest screwed up copyright laws and the industry ripping us off. But, you can't really have an enlightened debate about copyrights in the few moments before the movie starts, and just then, the previews started. There was a regular-looking guy being interviewed, explaining how he has a lot of pride in the movies he helps make (he was a set director or something), and he said something like, "Well, piracy doesn't really hurt the industry bigwigs because they're all rich anyway, but when I hear my movies are being pirated, a small piece of me dies inside." It was a total guilt-trip.
Personally, I refuse to support an industry that relies on guilting people into paying for overpriced crap. If they want to stop piracty for real, they can give me more and charge me less for it.
Which is a real bummer, because I was just setting up linux on my friend's computer the other day, and I was shocked with how easily I was able to get mplayer working on RH9 for him. All I did was use apt-rpm it ('apt-get install mplayer'), and it was totally installed. Then it just took a few extra minutes to configure RH to launch 'gmplayer dvd://' when a DVD is inserted, and associate it with the various file formats in nautilus. After that experience, I was all hot to go out and buy a DVD drive and a few DVDs for my own computer, but I'm glad I didn't.
Why?! Why must the industry be so fucking evil? I want to be able to just buy CDs and DVDs casually, but the industry's rabid anti-consumer behavior has put a bad taste in my mouth over the whole issue.
Don't worry, winter will start soon and we'll be able to march there.
The Alberta government is currently using the notwithstanding clause to prevent homosexual marriages in Alberta.
The only thing worse than the fact that this is happening are the people writing letters to the editor saying how the Charter of Rights and Freedoms is a silly document that is only 20 years old, while we should all be obeying the Bible, which has been around for 2000 years and has proven it's worth...
civil rights are embedded in the constitution and are upheld.
Except that any province, on a whim, can choose not to honour any given "civil right", by invoking the notwithstanding clause of the charter of rights and freedoms.
Welcome to Canada!
you don't lose the privilidge of having possessions when you become a prisoner.
:)
Lol, next you'll tell us that prisoners have the right to bear arms
If you haven't seen "1984" - WATCH IT, and be VERY AFRAID.
:)
No, whatever you do, don't WATCH 1984, it's a terrible movie. Go READ 1984, it's a great book.
Then, go read Fahrenheit 451, and go watch Equilibrium, they have similar themes. I like to think of those two as '1984 as seen by the thought police', except they have better endings.
Yes, you make excellent points.
But at this point, it doesn't even matter that what these people are doing is illegal!
EFF said it best, but I'll paraphrase:
Enjoying music is not wrong! Technology has enabled music lovers to build the largest collections of music ever! With a large harddrive and a fast internet connection, it is painfully easy to develop a collection of music that would take months to listen to end-to-end.
Instead of providing users with a legitimate way of doing this, the RIAA has set out on a path to criminalise music lovers everywhere.
What I mean is, it's become apparent that CDs are just not convenient enough for people to buy lots of them; people want to pay for single-song downloads, and then only have exactly what songs they like. Instead of enabling this and making life good for consumers and artists alike, the RIAA is alienating EVERYBODY.
I suggest everybody go out and discover independant music. I've been surfing on iuma.com (Internet Underground Music Archive), and I've found lots of great music that the artists want you to download for free. It's free, it's legit, and it's not the cookie-cutter shite that the RIAA has been pushing lately.
So I say, fuck the RIAA. If they want to put all of their potential customers in jail, they can go out of business for all I care.
And finally, check out Downhill Battle, and Don't Buy CDs , two good sites advocating the downfall of the RIAA.
"Corporal James Smith, Third Mounted Infantry, World War One."
It's even better when you find coins that are stamped with dates like "200 B.C." or something.
Nevermind the record execs, wait until they sue the granddaughters of some Senators. The RIAA will be gone overnight.
According to some of the theme screenshots I saw, most of the great Open Source applications have been ported: Internet Explorer, Outlook Express, Microsoft Office, etc. are all there.
Booyeah.
But they're not even that, though; going to court will destroy them, they're a pump-and-dump company using the threat of lawsuits to inflate the stock price. Once IBM lays the smackdown in the courtroom, we'll never hear the word name "SCO" ever again.
OTHER search engines? Stop talking nonsense, boy!
SCO is a lot like a mime: they're annoying, unfunny, and ultimately inconsequential.
Unlike a mime, however, SCO just won't shut the fuck up.
Well, I think the grandparent poster is more concerned about the loss of 34 perfectly good pounds of plutonium, which could have been put to better use.
:)
Or maybe he's just worried about the native Jupiterians getting WMD