Yes, because there's absolutely no difference between punishing a company and its officers financially and potentially putting them out of business and putting them under the guillotine. Nothing like a good reductio ad absurdum argument to make your point.
And my '82 Buick Century which gets 30mpg paid for itself years ago. Note, also, that article says it pays for the difference in price between a hybrid and a standard in that time, it doesn't cover the cost of the vehicle itself. For those who can't afford $35,000 for a new car, paying off the difference between $35,000 and $35,900 in 2.6 years is a moot point. What's the return on my investment when we consider the difference between my current car (which has no monthly payment) and a $35,000 car? According to my math, it's 101 years. I'm not overly optimistic about there being gas to buy in 2.6 years, let alone 101.
Hybrids are a stop-gap measure at best. They are not a solution. A better solution for you would have been to find an '89 Geo Metro which got 75mpg. You could get it for under a grand and have an extra $500/month in your pocket.
I was referring to comments on Slashdot, not the actions of any administration. I disagreed with the DoJ's findings in the MS case, just as I disagree with granting immunity to telecoms. The first was a sham, the second is a travesty.
I'm sorry, you must be new here. We don't use logic or critical thinking. Please take your hippie logic elsewhere. Just because someone doesn't have a choice but to pay $4/gallon for gas doesn't mean they shouldn't choose not to if they don't want to. They're more than welcome to spend $35,000 on a new hybrid car (that still uses $4/gallon gas) and thus "stick it" to the oil companies...a little bit. Or, they could walk. I, for one, am almost ready to make the leap on my 30 mile ride and just start biking in. In this economy, it would be trivial for me to just find a new job with the thousands that are available right now, but I prefer the situation I'm in now. I CHOOSE this life.
And, since the slashdot average IQ seems to have dropped about 50 points in the last few weeks, all of the above was sarcasm.
Exactly right. AT&T deserves to be shutdown completely and made an example of. You know, kinda how this whole site cries for the same thing to happen to Microsoft BECAUSE THEY PUT A BROWSER IN THEIR OS. The vagaries of scale on this site are just unbelievable sometimes. "Bundle a browser...lock 'em up and throw away the key! Illegally wiretap American citizens? Eh, they learned their lesson, then won't do it again..."
What's most sickening is how so many people are SCREAMING to have this bill blocked, yet the politicians are actively voting against the wishes of their constituency. They're not even pretending to care anymore.
Now we use "smart bombs" and are affraid of "collateral damage."
Yes, because we've come to realize that simply attacking and destroying the military bases without hitting the schools next to them is just as effective as blowing up everyone and letting "god" sort 'em out.
4000 or so (i haven't been keeping up) in Iraq in 5 years, and people think that's an unacceptably high loss.
One is an unacceptable loss in this war since we're only doing it so Gee, Dubya can finally feel like he's earned his father's approval after being a loser fuckup all of his life.
It's also nice that it;s not important enough for you to "keep up with", but important enough for you to try and justify. Perhaps if your family contained one of the 4415 (the last known name we have is a 21 year old kid named Jason Cox from Elyria, OH) soldiers, 435 contractors or the unknown tens (possibly hundreds) of thousands of Iraqis killed you'd pay more attention?
The problem in Iraq isn't military, its political, and its not in Iraq, its on the cable news.
No, it's that we let the clueless and ignorant vote and we end up with people like Gee, Dubya.
Imagine even one year of spending where $800 billion goes to sciences and technology
Extrapolating...extrapolating...okay, we've jumped from 20% efficiency of solar cells to over 40% in the last 5 years or so with just a couple of million dollars being spent by companies in research. I'd say we could easily hit the "magic" 80% mark with just a fraction of that money, which would completely eliminate the need for any other kind of energy source AND have enough money left over to rebuild the infrastructure to implement it. This would eviscerate the monetary stockpiles of our "friends" the Saudis who are funding a large portion of the terrorism and spark a new age of financial independence for the US. We might even be able to build artificial lakes with palm tree islands and indoor ski resorts in our own deserts with the money saved!
Naah, I think I'm happier sending kids off to their death to protect some rich white guy's shares in the oil industry. That seems more American to me. I mean, just think...if the kids manage to come home alive with most of their limbs, they'll be able to afford a community college education with their GI Bill money and thus earn a subsistence wage in a cubicle until they die.
As nice as it is that we can just roll over whatever dinky (or even not-so-dinky) country in the world
We can? Then why is it we're still in Iraq five years after the mission's been accomplished? Air support is the best way to protect ground troops and you need aircraft carriers to get them to places like Iraq.
Impossible, as the Bible clearly states God created the Earth and populated it with life. There is no mention of life being put anywhere else in the sphere of the heavens that contains all of the stars (including our sun!) and rotates around the Earth. Since oil is a result of thousands of years of dinosaurs being killed by man and then melting down into juice, there's no way there could be oil there. Any oil we might find there was put there by the Devil in an attempt to draw you from the true path to God. QED
There's no proof of that, whatsover. A man can choose to engage in various behaviors, but he can't choose the color of his skin.
There's no proof of your stance whatsoever, either. Unlike the christians, I choose to err on the side of reality. Homosexual behavior is common enough in nature among other animals that it's just stupid hubris to believe it's not natural for us just because some shephards sitting around 4000 years ago decided it wasn't.
The majority of christians worked to own slavery. The historical facts are thus: slavery was common, particularly with Romans, and slavery fell out of favor as christianity took hold. By the time it died in the USA, only a minority of people were in favor of it, and ultimately, they lost the civil war.
Slavery was around long before the Romans. The primary differences between Roman slaves and christian slaves is that the Roman slaves could not only earn their freedom, but were typically not beaten or subjected to extremely hard labor. Read a history book sometimes. Sure, there were exceptions, just like there were exceptions with christians treating their slaves well.
They need to die. There's no proven therapy that rehabilitates them. Let's see how you feel after your wife gets raped.
Typical christian, failing to turn the other cheek. Jesus said child molestation was ok, why are you so against it? Your priests aren't. They love them little boys. (Curious: why is THAT homosexuality allowed and encouraged?)
So was Newton, Kant, Watt, Maxwell, Clerk, DaVinci... even Galileo was a Christian, and then you have Wilson, both Roosevelts, Kennedy, Reagan, Martin Luther King Jr, even Barrack Obama says he is a Christian. Fancy that.
Yes, and they also spoke their native tongues. Know why? That's what they were born into. Religions, despite their belief, are not hereditary. If your parents were religious (as most people were back then), chances are you will be, too. Well, that and the christians have a great method of dealing with those who aren't: set 'em on fire! If any of them were atheist and THEN became christian, you'd have an argument, but you don't. Indoctrination is always begun at an early age to maximize its potency. See how well it worked on you?
Oh brother. The price of fuel is high because liberals like you have prevented drilling and refining in the USA. There's 2 trillion dollars worth of oil in Alaska alone, and trillions more sitting off the coasts, and that money could have been used to fund even your stupid socialist objectives. But oh no, you would RATHER choose to save a couple of Polar Bears and fish to feel good about yourselves then you would save your own countrymen.
And yet, the estimates by those in the know put the amount of oil at much lower than that. If I thought for half a second it would make a difference, I'd be all for opening up those zones, but there isn't enough oil out there and it's only a stop-gap anyway. Me, I'm more concerned PEOPLE aren't being killed needlessly in your jihad against islam and if I thought it could happen, I'd work towards inventing a device that allowed cars to run on polar bears. But, it's not. Only idiots think the "solution" is to just keep drilling for more oil. Forgetting the fact that if we opened it up today, it would be 2020 before it would be fully geared up and ready to go, it's a stop-gap trumpeted by the religious right to convince their already delusional followers that it's the "evil" liberals who are more interested in making sure YOUR kid has health care than your ability to drive alone to and from work in your Hummer. They're stupid enough to believe a magic zombie jew can make them live forever by participating in cannabolism, why wouldn't they believe MORE drilling will "fix" all of their problems? All the while, they continue to rake in record profits and laugh at you all the way to the church where they pretend they believe what you do.
Actually, no. That's a reasonable guess because being gay is really the only thing that gets you frowned in on many christian sects.
Which is funny since being gay is like being black; it's how you're born, you can't change it. So, the christians hate a whole class of people who are "just as god made 'em". How nice of them. You can't say that christians are racist, when in fact, there are christian churches of white, black, hispanic and even asian persuasion.
Sure I can. Watch: christians are racist. See? I notice you excluded middle eastern persuasions in there. I also notice you segregated the churches up nicely by skin color, too. Oh, sure, the occasional black family'll go to a white church, but they have to sit next to the gays so they can pretend the others frowing at the fags and not them.
You can't say that christians are all slavers, when, in fact, it was devoted christians that worked to end slavery.
Sure I can, it's in the "good book" that it's ok, and in some cases even required, to own slaves. That's how the overwhelming majority of christians worked so hard to keep hold of slavery. If I can't hold the majority responsible for the sins of the minority, you can't absolve the majority for the good acts of a minority.
You can't say that christians are all socialists, or all capitalists, when christians are in both camps, and you can't say that christians are warmongers, when you have the current pope and many religious leaders routinely calling for an end to all wars.
Would that be the Hitler Youth pope? Hitler, after all, was a christian.
So, the only reason you could really justify hating about two billion people on the planet, would be if in fact, you were gay, in which case, many christians probably would view your acts as something of a moral choice.
I never said I hated christians, I said they were delusional. I pity them, just as I pity anyone else who suffers from mental illness. I said they were responsible for quite a lot of misery in the world, I never said hate. I said they were responsible for holding back progress by setting fire to anything or anyone who disagreed with the word of the lord, but not hate. That's just your training taking over that makes you see hate everywhere because, well, you're responsible for so much of it.
skipping the stupidity about hate....Like, when you cheat on your partners, do you tell yourself, Christians are worse, so therefor, you are ok? How many times have you hit your children or beat your wife? I'll bet they are black and blue. At least you save money at Christmas. You don't have to get kids anything. You just say, "well, I'm not participating in this crazy religious holiday". That's good for you! For sure!
Why wouldn't I celebrate xmas? It's not a christian holiday. Oh, it was preempted by them, but it's not theirs. Xmas is a pagan holiday and every time you put up a tree or exchange gifts you're honoring the traditions of another god. Do you go to confession for violating the FIRST commandment? Do you even know all 10? It's okay if you don't, I haven't met many christians who do. As for the other stuff...no, I don't beat my wife or kids, I told you, I'M NOT CHRISTIAN.
Yeah, but you are still a bigot, and, you aren't even intelligent enough to see that atheism is another religion too. Woopy.
It is? Really? How do you figure? Oh, right...I have to have "faith" that there are no gods, right? Yeah, because all of the evidence to the contrary really requires a whole lot of "faith". To reuse an old quote: "Calling atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
No. Actually, I'm the kind that favors the death penalty for all child molestors and rapists. Are you the kind of educated man that wants to set them free, or convinces me that I should pay taxes to keep these people alive?
Hey, don't blame me for that crap, the overwhelming majority of people in prison are christian, w
LOL! Only a christian would go there. No, I'm not gay, I'm just educated and intelligent. I also don't believe in Zeus, Thor, Saturn (the god, not the planet), Freya, Mithra, etc...does that make me gay, too? BTW, which of the thousands of variations of christianity do you follow? Are you one of the ones who molest female children or male children?
Oh, and one more thing...I realize you're a christian and therefore a bit ignorant, but it's spelled faggot, not faggit. If you're going to be an insulting redneck at least try to get it right.
Yes, it's not like the christians would EVER do something like that...oh, wait, weren't they ordered repeatedly to level cities, kill the men, rip the babies from the bellies of the women, and keep the virgins as slaves? Oh, that's right, we gloss over that and pretend the jesus "changed" all of that...despite the fact that he clearly advocates child abuse and murder according to "his father's" previous orders. Ooops...
Sorry, you're just a slave to christian propaganda.
I agree. Were it not for christianity, we could have stronger, Roman values, and could merely justify the extermination of our enemies because they were weaker.
I know you're joking, but I think what you're describing are Roman CATHOLIC "values". So, you're suggesting that without christianity there would be no values? Please, all one has to do is look at the crimes committed by them over history, and they're not all "ancient", unless you consider Jonestown and the Nazi holocaust "ancient", to know your argument holds no merit.
Look, you have all of these people arguing against the USA military actions around the world, as if, there was some sort of a cosmic judge that holds us wrong. This planet lives at the mercy of the USA and it is high time we make it pay for us.
And with that, you shoot yourself in the foot. The US has always had a reputation as a bunch of pricks, but that reputation has been exacerbated under our current administration that feels it has a moral imperative from his god to recapture the holy land. The other evil, McCain, is proud to be endorsed by a preacher who claims we should make war with Iran and ignite the end of days and bring about the rapture and thus the return of the jayzus.
The sooner we get rid of religion, and focus on survival of the fittest, we can eliminate the silly notions of the soul and with it the idea of fundamental rights. From there, we can proceed with the extermination of the third world, replacing weaker cultures with a stronger industrialized one, keeping the planet for those who have the values to use it, not merely subsistent parasites that besmirch the very name of humanity with their almost termite like existence.
It's funny you only hear religious types reaching for Spencer's "theory". No, Darwin used it as a metaphor for natural selection, it was Herbert Spencer who turned it into the kind of argument you're trying to turn it into (eugenics). Of course, I can understand why you'd go there. After all, religion breeds evil people. I think it has to do with the fact that your "values" are based on murder, rape, infanticide and genocide.
Because despite the wealth of evidence to the contrary, the creationists have reared their ugly, hatefilled heads again and are trying to tear society back into the dark ages where their brand of amusement was most popular. We have a moron for a president who actually believes "the jury's still out on evolution". Imagine! It's the 21st century and a world leader of an industrialized nation actually believes there's not enough evidence of evolution to make a valid case!
Enough is enough, it's time to take back reality from the delusional. Will posts on slashdot make a difference? No, but with all of the headway the delusional are making these days, it's nice to know there are still sane, rational people out there, too.
I, personally, will not get over it. Too much progress has been made despite christianity's best efforts to hold it back, I refuse to let them regain any ground.
First, if you're not an incompetent boob, why couldn't you get anything before SharePoint to do what users need?
Prolly had a lot to do with my not working here at the time.
Second, SharePoint sucks when you have a mixed client network, which is typical of Microsoft products.
Yes, Microsoft should go out of their way to make sure their software works well with obscure OSes like OSX and Linux. Perhaps it's the client you're using. I'm currently using an Ubuntu Gutsy box to access our intranet and while I've got some limited functionality because it's a down level client, I can still do pretty much everything. About the only thing that doesn't work is the Citrix webpart. It just takes a little longer to get to everything else. But, anyone who uses Linux is used to things taking longer...:)
Only if implemented by incompetent boobs. Considering that describes a good 90-95% of IT folks, your comments are not surprising. When we migrated our Intranet to Sharepoint last year, pretty much unilaterally our 14,000 users said "FINALLY! An intranet that does what we need!" It's been fantastic, and they just love being able to manipulate the site to provide them just the information and applications they need. We've now begun a project to provide it to our clients, and their reaction has been the same.
Now, to the topic at hand: no, I have no interest in offline Google Apps. Google Apps is a barely usable hack that provides the barest of minimums of features for users. It's good for my grandmother, but even my mother finds it too limiting. Add to that using Firefox/Gears uses 5-10X the resources on machine and it just doesn't cute it. Microsoft's solution is exactly the path I'd go. It gives me the flexibility to use real applications AND still have access to my docs everywhere. But, I'm not a luddite, so...
Obama's preacher is a racist, a white person voting for him would be like a black person voting for a white man whose preacher is a Klansman.
You're so right. At least McCain's preacher is only anti-Catholic, anti-Jewish and anti-homosexual. He's absolutely right that Hurricane Katrina was god's way of punishing the people there for allowing homosexual parades. And, absolutely, the Jews got EXACTLY what they deserved during the Holocaust for not following the one true god. As for his other preacher, he's absolutely right when he says America was founded specifically to destroy the false religion of Islam.
A vote for McCain is a vote for the apocalypse and rapture! Help bring about the end times and give Bush a third term by voting in McCain!
Myself, I'll be voting either Green or Libertarian, depending on who's on the ballot in Illinois. Mine will be a protest vote against our Corporate-owned government. We, the people, have been left out of the loop for far too long.
That's a grand idea! That will ENSURE McCain will be our next president! Thank you for your vote, it goes a long way to helping the Republican party on it's way to the end times!
BTW, I turn 56 next week.
Sarcasm off....you'd think you'dve learned by now...
Yes, you're absolutely right. You and your superior intellect win. Congratulations on your pyrrhic victory. I'm sure there's now a chance you'll get laid.
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Sorry, you're not allowed to deviate from the groupthink.
Yes, because there's absolutely no difference between punishing a company and its officers financially and potentially putting them out of business and putting them under the guillotine. Nothing like a good reductio ad absurdum argument to make your point.
And my '82 Buick Century which gets 30mpg paid for itself years ago. Note, also, that article says it pays for the difference in price between a hybrid and a standard in that time, it doesn't cover the cost of the vehicle itself. For those who can't afford $35,000 for a new car, paying off the difference between $35,000 and $35,900 in 2.6 years is a moot point. What's the return on my investment when we consider the difference between my current car (which has no monthly payment) and a $35,000 car? According to my math, it's 101 years. I'm not overly optimistic about there being gas to buy in 2.6 years, let alone 101.
Hybrids are a stop-gap measure at best. They are not a solution. A better solution for you would have been to find an '89 Geo Metro which got 75mpg. You could get it for under a grand and have an extra $500/month in your pocket.
I was referring to comments on Slashdot, not the actions of any administration. I disagreed with the DoJ's findings in the MS case, just as I disagree with granting immunity to telecoms. The first was a sham, the second is a travesty.
I'm sorry, you must be new here. We don't use logic or critical thinking. Please take your hippie logic elsewhere. Just because someone doesn't have a choice but to pay $4/gallon for gas doesn't mean they shouldn't choose not to if they don't want to. They're more than welcome to spend $35,000 on a new hybrid car (that still uses $4/gallon gas) and thus "stick it" to the oil companies...a little bit. Or, they could walk. I, for one, am almost ready to make the leap on my 30 mile ride and just start biking in. In this economy, it would be trivial for me to just find a new job with the thousands that are available right now, but I prefer the situation I'm in now. I CHOOSE this life.
And, since the slashdot average IQ seems to have dropped about 50 points in the last few weeks, all of the above was sarcasm.
Exactly right. AT&T deserves to be shutdown completely and made an example of. You know, kinda how this whole site cries for the same thing to happen to Microsoft BECAUSE THEY PUT A BROWSER IN THEIR OS. The vagaries of scale on this site are just unbelievable sometimes. "Bundle a browser...lock 'em up and throw away the key! Illegally wiretap American citizens? Eh, they learned their lesson, then won't do it again..."
What's most sickening is how so many people are SCREAMING to have this bill blocked, yet the politicians are actively voting against the wishes of their constituency. They're not even pretending to care anymore.
Similarly with Utah. Have you ever met anyone from Utah?
Props only to those who get it. Anecdotal meetings must be followed up with verifiable proof.
Now we use "smart bombs" and are affraid of "collateral damage."
Yes, because we've come to realize that simply attacking and destroying the military bases without hitting the schools next to them is just as effective as blowing up everyone and letting "god" sort 'em out.
4000 or so (i haven't been keeping up) in Iraq in 5 years, and people think that's an unacceptably high loss.
One is an unacceptable loss in this war since we're only doing it so Gee, Dubya can finally feel like he's earned his father's approval after being a loser fuckup all of his life.
It's also nice that it;s not important enough for you to "keep up with", but important enough for you to try and justify. Perhaps if your family contained one of the 4415 (the last known name we have is a 21 year old kid named Jason Cox from Elyria, OH) soldiers, 435 contractors or the unknown tens (possibly hundreds) of thousands of Iraqis killed you'd pay more attention?
The problem in Iraq isn't military, its political, and its not in Iraq, its on the cable news.
No, it's that we let the clueless and ignorant vote and we end up with people like Gee, Dubya.
Imagine even one year of spending where $800 billion goes to sciences and technology
Extrapolating...extrapolating...okay, we've jumped from 20% efficiency of solar cells to over 40% in the last 5 years or so with just a couple of million dollars being spent by companies in research. I'd say we could easily hit the "magic" 80% mark with just a fraction of that money, which would completely eliminate the need for any other kind of energy source AND have enough money left over to rebuild the infrastructure to implement it. This would eviscerate the monetary stockpiles of our "friends" the Saudis who are funding a large portion of the terrorism and spark a new age of financial independence for the US. We might even be able to build artificial lakes with palm tree islands and indoor ski resorts in our own deserts with the money saved!
Naah, I think I'm happier sending kids off to their death to protect some rich white guy's shares in the oil industry. That seems more American to me. I mean, just think...if the kids manage to come home alive with most of their limbs, they'll be able to afford a community college education with their GI Bill money and thus earn a subsistence wage in a cubicle until they die.
As nice as it is that we can just roll over whatever dinky (or even not-so-dinky) country in the world
We can? Then why is it we're still in Iraq five years after the mission's been accomplished? Air support is the best way to protect ground troops and you need aircraft carriers to get them to places like Iraq.
Until he wins a third term under the name "McCain", that is...
Impossible, as the Bible clearly states God created the Earth and populated it with life. There is no mention of life being put anywhere else in the sphere of the heavens that contains all of the stars (including our sun!) and rotates around the Earth. Since oil is a result of thousands of years of dinosaurs being killed by man and then melting down into juice, there's no way there could be oil there. Any oil we might find there was put there by the Devil in an attempt to draw you from the true path to God. QED
That's the beauty of choice: you get to make it, and then bitch about how it's everyone else's fault when it doesn't work out for you.
There's no proof of that, whatsover. A man can choose to engage in various behaviors, but he can't choose the color of his skin.
There's no proof of your stance whatsoever, either. Unlike the christians, I choose to err on the side of reality. Homosexual behavior is common enough in nature among other animals that it's just stupid hubris to believe it's not natural for us just because some shephards sitting around 4000 years ago decided it wasn't.
The majority of christians worked to own slavery. The historical facts are thus: slavery was common, particularly with Romans, and slavery fell out of favor as christianity took hold. By the time it died in the USA, only a minority of people were in favor of it, and ultimately, they lost the civil war.
Slavery was around long before the Romans. The primary differences between Roman slaves and christian slaves is that the Roman slaves could not only earn their freedom, but were typically not beaten or subjected to extremely hard labor. Read a history book sometimes. Sure, there were exceptions, just like there were exceptions with christians treating their slaves well.
They need to die. There's no proven therapy that rehabilitates them. Let's see how you feel after your wife gets raped.
Typical christian, failing to turn the other cheek. Jesus said child molestation was ok, why are you so against it? Your priests aren't. They love them little boys. (Curious: why is THAT homosexuality allowed and encouraged?)
So was Newton, Kant, Watt, Maxwell, Clerk, DaVinci... even Galileo was a Christian, and then you have Wilson, both Roosevelts, Kennedy, Reagan, Martin Luther King Jr, even Barrack Obama says he is a Christian. Fancy that.
Yes, and they also spoke their native tongues. Know why? That's what they were born into. Religions, despite their belief, are not hereditary. If your parents were religious (as most people were back then), chances are you will be, too. Well, that and the christians have a great method of dealing with those who aren't: set 'em on fire! If any of them were atheist and THEN became christian, you'd have an argument, but you don't. Indoctrination is always begun at an early age to maximize its potency. See how well it worked on you?
Oh brother. The price of fuel is high because liberals like you have prevented drilling and refining in the USA. There's 2 trillion dollars worth of oil in Alaska alone, and trillions more sitting off the coasts, and that money could have been used to fund even your stupid socialist objectives. But oh no, you would RATHER choose to save a couple of Polar Bears and fish to feel good about yourselves then you would save your own countrymen.
And yet, the estimates by those in the know put the amount of oil at much lower than that. If I thought for half a second it would make a difference, I'd be all for opening up those zones, but there isn't enough oil out there and it's only a stop-gap anyway. Me, I'm more concerned PEOPLE aren't being killed needlessly in your jihad against islam and if I thought it could happen, I'd work towards inventing a device that allowed cars to run on polar bears. But, it's not. Only idiots think the "solution" is to just keep drilling for more oil. Forgetting the fact that if we opened it up today, it would be 2020 before it would be fully geared up and ready to go, it's a stop-gap trumpeted by the religious right to convince their already delusional followers that it's the "evil" liberals who are more interested in making sure YOUR kid has health care than your ability to drive alone to and from work in your Hummer. They're stupid enough to believe a magic zombie jew can make them live forever by participating in cannabolism, why wouldn't they believe MORE drilling will "fix" all of their problems? All the while, they continue to rake in record profits and laugh at you all the way to the church where they pretend they believe what you do.
Hey, Chr
Actually, no. That's a reasonable guess because being gay is really the only thing that gets you frowned in on many christian sects.
Which is funny since being gay is like being black; it's how you're born, you can't change it. So, the christians hate a whole class of people who are "just as god made 'em". How nice of them.
You can't say that christians are racist, when in fact, there are christian churches of white, black, hispanic and even asian persuasion.
Sure I can. Watch: christians are racist. See? I notice you excluded middle eastern persuasions in there. I also notice you segregated the churches up nicely by skin color, too. Oh, sure, the occasional black family'll go to a white church, but they have to sit next to the gays so they can pretend the others frowing at the fags and not them.
You can't say that christians are all slavers, when, in fact, it was devoted christians that worked to end slavery.
Sure I can, it's in the "good book" that it's ok, and in some cases even required, to own slaves. That's how the overwhelming majority of christians worked so hard to keep hold of slavery. If I can't hold the majority responsible for the sins of the minority, you can't absolve the majority for the good acts of a minority.
You can't say that christians are all socialists, or all capitalists, when christians are in both camps, and you can't say that christians are warmongers, when you have the current pope and many religious leaders routinely calling for an end to all wars.
Would that be the Hitler Youth pope? Hitler, after all, was a christian.
So, the only reason you could really justify hating about two billion people on the planet, would be if in fact, you were gay, in which case, many christians probably would view your acts as something of a moral choice.
I never said I hated christians, I said they were delusional. I pity them, just as I pity anyone else who suffers from mental illness. I said they were responsible for quite a lot of misery in the world, I never said hate. I said they were responsible for holding back progress by setting fire to anything or anyone who disagreed with the word of the lord, but not hate. That's just your training taking over that makes you see hate everywhere because, well, you're responsible for so much of it.
skipping the stupidity about hate....Like, when you cheat on your partners, do you tell yourself, Christians are worse, so therefor, you are ok? How many times have you hit your children or beat your wife? I'll bet they are black and blue. At least you save money at Christmas. You don't have to get kids anything. You just say, "well, I'm not participating in this crazy religious holiday". That's good for you! For sure!
Why wouldn't I celebrate xmas? It's not a christian holiday. Oh, it was preempted by them, but it's not theirs. Xmas is a pagan holiday and every time you put up a tree or exchange gifts you're honoring the traditions of another god. Do you go to confession for violating the FIRST commandment? Do you even know all 10? It's okay if you don't, I haven't met many christians who do. As for the other stuff...no, I don't beat my wife or kids, I told you, I'M NOT CHRISTIAN.
Yeah, but you are still a bigot, and, you aren't even intelligent enough to see that atheism is another religion too. Woopy.
It is? Really? How do you figure? Oh, right...I have to have "faith" that there are no gods, right? Yeah, because all of the evidence to the contrary really requires a whole lot of "faith". To reuse an old quote: "Calling atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
No. Actually, I'm the kind that favors the death penalty for all child molestors and rapists. Are you the kind of educated man that wants to set them free, or convinces me that I should pay taxes to keep these people alive?
Hey, don't blame me for that crap, the overwhelming majority of people in prison are christian, w
LOL! Only a christian would go there. No, I'm not gay, I'm just educated and intelligent. I also don't believe in Zeus, Thor, Saturn (the god, not the planet), Freya, Mithra, etc...does that make me gay, too? BTW, which of the thousands of variations of christianity do you follow? Are you one of the ones who molest female children or male children?
Oh, and one more thing...I realize you're a christian and therefore a bit ignorant, but it's spelled faggot, not faggit. If you're going to be an insulting redneck at least try to get it right.
Yes, it's not like the christians would EVER do something like that...oh, wait, weren't they ordered repeatedly to level cities, kill the men, rip the babies from the bellies of the women, and keep the virgins as slaves? Oh, that's right, we gloss over that and pretend the jesus "changed" all of that...despite the fact that he clearly advocates child abuse and murder according to "his father's" previous orders. Ooops...
Sorry, you're just a slave to christian propaganda.
I agree. Were it not for christianity, we could have stronger, Roman values, and could merely justify the extermination of our enemies because they were weaker.
I know you're joking, but I think what you're describing are Roman CATHOLIC "values". So, you're suggesting that without christianity there would be no values? Please, all one has to do is look at the crimes committed by them over history, and they're not all "ancient", unless you consider Jonestown and the Nazi holocaust "ancient", to know your argument holds no merit.
Look, you have all of these people arguing against the USA military actions around the world, as if, there was some sort of a cosmic judge that holds us wrong. This planet lives at the mercy of the USA and it is high time we make it pay for us.
And with that, you shoot yourself in the foot. The US has always had a reputation as a bunch of pricks, but that reputation has been exacerbated under our current administration that feels it has a moral imperative from his god to recapture the holy land. The other evil, McCain, is proud to be endorsed by a preacher who claims we should make war with Iran and ignite the end of days and bring about the rapture and thus the return of the jayzus.
The sooner we get rid of religion, and focus on survival of the fittest, we can eliminate the silly notions of the soul and with it the idea of fundamental rights. From there, we can proceed with the extermination of the third world, replacing weaker cultures with a stronger industrialized one, keeping the planet for those who have the values to use it, not merely subsistent parasites that besmirch the very name of humanity with their almost termite like existence.
It's funny you only hear religious types reaching for Spencer's "theory". No, Darwin used it as a metaphor for natural selection, it was Herbert Spencer who turned it into the kind of argument you're trying to turn it into (eugenics). Of course, I can understand why you'd go there. After all, religion breeds evil people. I think it has to do with the fact that your "values" are based on murder, rape, infanticide and genocide.
Because despite the wealth of evidence to the contrary, the creationists have reared their ugly, hatefilled heads again and are trying to tear society back into the dark ages where their brand of amusement was most popular. We have a moron for a president who actually believes "the jury's still out on evolution". Imagine! It's the 21st century and a world leader of an industrialized nation actually believes there's not enough evidence of evolution to make a valid case!
Enough is enough, it's time to take back reality from the delusional. Will posts on slashdot make a difference? No, but with all of the headway the delusional are making these days, it's nice to know there are still sane, rational people out there, too.
I, personally, will not get over it. Too much progress has been made despite christianity's best efforts to hold it back, I refuse to let them regain any ground.
If people suddenly, by magic, were to believe otherwise
Sorry, I'm an atheist, I don't believe in magic. I think it's probably best to fix the system than wait for magic to happen.
First, if you're not an incompetent boob, why couldn't you get anything before SharePoint to do what users need?
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Prolly had a lot to do with my not working here at the time.
Second, SharePoint sucks when you have a mixed client network, which is typical of Microsoft products.
Yes, Microsoft should go out of their way to make sure their software works well with obscure OSes like OSX and Linux. Perhaps it's the client you're using. I'm currently using an Ubuntu Gutsy box to access our intranet and while I've got some limited functionality because it's a down level client, I can still do pretty much everything. About the only thing that doesn't work is the Citrix webpart. It just takes a little longer to get to everything else. But, anyone who uses Linux is used to things taking longer...
Only if implemented by incompetent boobs. Considering that describes a good 90-95% of IT folks, your comments are not surprising. When we migrated our Intranet to Sharepoint last year, pretty much unilaterally our 14,000 users said "FINALLY! An intranet that does what we need!" It's been fantastic, and they just love being able to manipulate the site to provide them just the information and applications they need. We've now begun a project to provide it to our clients, and their reaction has been the same.
Now, to the topic at hand: no, I have no interest in offline Google Apps. Google Apps is a barely usable hack that provides the barest of minimums of features for users. It's good for my grandmother, but even my mother finds it too limiting. Add to that using Firefox/Gears uses 5-10X the resources on machine and it just doesn't cute it. Microsoft's solution is exactly the path I'd go. It gives me the flexibility to use real applications AND still have access to my docs everywhere. But, I'm not a luddite, so...
Obama's preacher is a racist, a white person voting for him would be like a black person voting for a white man whose preacher is a Klansman.
You're so right. At least McCain's preacher is only anti-Catholic, anti-Jewish and anti-homosexual. He's absolutely right that Hurricane Katrina was god's way of punishing the people there for allowing homosexual parades. And, absolutely, the Jews got EXACTLY what they deserved during the Holocaust for not following the one true god. As for his other preacher, he's absolutely right when he says America was founded specifically to destroy the false religion of Islam.
A vote for McCain is a vote for the apocalypse and rapture! Help bring about the end times and give Bush a third term by voting in McCain!
Myself, I'll be voting either Green or Libertarian, depending on who's on the ballot in Illinois. Mine will be a protest vote against our Corporate-owned government. We, the people, have been left out of the loop for far too long.
That's a grand idea! That will ENSURE McCain will be our next president! Thank you for your vote, it goes a long way to helping the Republican party on it's way to the end times!
BTW, I turn 56 next week.
Sarcasm off....you'd think you'dve learned by now...
Yet, as Mr. Branson has shown, it doesn't take as much money as NASA claims.
Yes, you're absolutely right. You and your superior intellect win. Congratulations on your pyrrhic victory. I'm sure there's now a chance you'll get laid.