Because they have included non-GPL software in the distribution. Technically, they've been doing this for a while (they no include Intel's NIC drive, e100, in addition to the GPL version, eepro. I have no idea what the other stuff is however, I strongly suspect that its small stuff.
I'm still not sure what I'm going to do, but paying $300 per server isn't an option for us.
These guys are directly opposed the "They" in "They say...", who are not to be confused with "The man", which is a common misconception
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My ideas of the security world was it was more darwinistic then that. The good ideas survive because they work, the bad ones never get put into a final patch.
But unfortunately, security people are like PHB's, when they see the reaction to their security measures are circumvention (taping passwords to monitors, etc) they think they need more enforcement, not better ideas. Its far easier to blame the user than to admit your idea was a bust.
Redhat wants to scare business users into buying their "Enterprise" line. There is a group of users for whom Enterprise makes perfect sense, companies that want a nice stable product that doesn't upgrade every 6 months; that the group they founded it for. They soon started advertising that it was more stable (it was). From there, they morphed to advertising that the other product was "less stable" (rare you see a company dissing their own product, esp. as less stable was still pretty damned stable).
When folks still didn't flock to spend hundreds more on Enterprise, they "handed off" the product to the good "Fedora" folks. Now, its an intriguing idea, but its going to have to prove itself. Will they get caught up making sure they have the latest cool stuff and overlook the stability issues that might raise? How well will the new QA process work?
Its sort of a scortched earth policy with a twist; people were happy in those fields when they lit them up, some might run to their enterprise field, but a lot more are going elsewhere. And unfortunately, lots of CxO's are going to point to this and say "Thats why we cant have Linux".
I liked both of his other Bloom County series, but today's strip unfortunately underwhelms me completely.
I'm hoping its just a "Welcome back" gag to get past the "Oh my god whats the first strip going to be like?!" stage, I recall Outland did some similarly odd stuff when it first starteded, and after 6 months of nobody liking it more and more old characters came back.
I also think it was a bit of self-effacing humor; his dreams of grandeur didn't quite work out.
Considering "Personal" has seven meanings (with several more sub-meanings for just the adjective form according to Mirriam Webster, this doesn't really clear things up.
But yes, "Personal" means "Personal". As I said, its a "Personal" computer because its mean for my "personal" use, and not for the use of ay other "persons". Does this mean the computers in the school computer lab aren't "Personal Computers" because they don't belong to Betty Sue "personally"?
The poster claimed that Osborne's original laptop did not count as a "personal computer" because it was typically used by a "person" known by the general term "businessman" instead of the general term "pimply faced geek" or "computer hobbiest" as they "personally" prefer to be called.
And you are right, that was a pretty peculiar list.
Methinks you need to study up on the definition of "personal computer". Its got nothing to do with who uses it, just that its generally meant for one user at a time, unlike mainframes, minicomputers, etc.
My first and worst: Trash-80 Model III. 48k, 2 floppies and a built in monochrome screen.
Just because it was your worst PC doesn't mean it was one of the worst machines. When it was made 48k was pretty good (16k used to be enough), monochrome and floppies was pretty much the standard issue for a buisness computer. There really weren't a lot of higher end options without taking a HUGE jump in price, and that mostly bought you speed, certainly not color and multimedia. Heck, the TRS-80 was one of "the" standard machines
Why not? GeForce 64meg w. tv-out are retailing for about that now.
By "YOU" the poster means a manufacturer. Clearly, you can sell old hardware that is taking up space in your warehouse for $10, because the alternative is to pay to have them landfilled. But even then "YOU" don't do it, you find a guy who speicalized in out of date hardware whos got the deep discount channels in place and "HE" sells it for $30. The original poster's point is spot on, it doesn't pay to manufacture a retail $30 video card
No initiative is going to work unless someone gets a major credit card company on-board to assume the risk, pure and simple.
What they need is a compelling reason for consumers to want their web sites to share sign on information like credit card info. I certainly wont be shopping anywhere that plans to share my info with anybody else.
All their marking fantasy will hit the brick wall of consumer distrust and make a digusting "splat" sound
I seem to recall a car mod that basically allowed one of the rear seats to flip up and exposed a toilet seat over a "access panel". Now, I'm pretty sure you'd want to be stopped when you use the device (There's a lot of wind turbulence under you car at speed, if you get my drift) but its a start.
Look, it's obvious that cell phones are distracting too, but does ANYONE question that it must be more dangerous for a driver to be watching television vs talking on a phone ?
Personally, I think having kids in the car is far more distracting than cell phones. And from experience, I've been hit by a woman driving on the shoulder fighting with her kids, but I've never been hit by someone talking on their cell phone.
Plus, think of the benefits of banning children from cars. Its healthier for them (It will cut way back on the number of children killed in car accidents), Parents will have a hard time getting kids to movies and nice restaurants where they can annoy me, and it will improve the resale value of the cars since there will be far fewer juice stains on the back seats.
On its Web site, the firm said the software could beam 135,000 pop-up ads at consumers every hour, and claimed to have a database of over two billion Internet addresses, according to the FTC
If any wants, I can sell them a copy of that database for just $25,000. A brief sample to show I have the goods:
. There is no reason maintaining a half baked excel spreadsheet on a PDA and moving it back and forth between the laptop
Actually, I rely on Handago's Documents to Go to keep several spreadsheets syncronized to my Palm. Its a relatively quick lookup and in a pinch I can update the data while I wander the data center. And I'm really like the new Tungsten T3 form factor, I just can't yet justify giving away my original T to buy a T3.
Yeah, I'm not sure this sort of thing is likely to be abused. Maybe a local store will pop a message to my phone with some sort of lure to get me in, but unlike most Spam that would be relevant and hopefully interesting. The range thing means I'd be within throwing distance of the "Spammer" to, so unwelcome offensive spam is likely to incur the potential for physical retaliation.
But why did (the collective) you choose to push RedHat over, say, Debian?
Because thats what we ran when I got here. Of course, the reason most folks adopted it is because they successfully made the corporate links to companies like Dell and IBM. That helped feul the impression that RedHat was the "standard" linux, which encouraged companies to develop towards RedHat, which further encourages RedHat as a "standard", etc.
In the end, what RedHat did was produce a product that people perceived had value, and they spread word of that value to their associates.
Umm, not entirely. What they did was take the work of others (Linus,Richard, and thousands of others) that was release to the public under a specific license for the good of the community, and bundle it with a great utility they developed and released under that same license, the Redhat Package Manager. I do accept that they have done a lot of work creating a great distribution, and they have made real contributions to the body of work that is Linux. But so have lots of others, and the terms of the license that gave them access to this code that let them build that great brand name are pretty clear.
But your right, its their brand name if if they chose to, they have the right to take their ball and go home. Why does this mean we have to stand around and be happy about having to go find a new ball?
So, I ask what access to the Red Hat line is the community loosing?
The Red Hat name. When I bring folks down to my data center to give them the "Blinking Lights" tour, I can no longer announce we run the bank of computers on "Red Hat Linux". Doesn't matter that Fedora is the same basic OS that gave RHL its strong brand name in the first place. They don't hear the name, they'll think "cheap knock off".
Why not just break down and buy RHEL? Cost. For what it will cost to "upgrade" all my linux boxes I fought hard to get installed in lieu of Windows, I could be serval new servers, which personally I'd rather have. Hell, I can't even claim cost savings anymore, because RHEL is a yearly subscription, and for a typical 3 year lifespan of hardware, $299x3 > $799 once for Windows server 2003.
What does this mean? We IT folks basically have to "Steal the Brand" back. Tell upper management Fedora IS the version of Linux thats been running your servers so reliably for the last 5 years.
Pfft! You call that airflow? If it can fit in a 19" rack you can't get enough airlow. I'll be releasing my mod webpage soon, but its basically a 28 cubic foot freezer chest modified to accept a standard ATX power supply and motherboard.
If somebody is hitting me over the head with a bat, and I shoot them in the arm to make them drop the bat, that is self defense. This seems to me to be very much the digital equivalent of the bat scenario.
1) Shooting is only justified if you feel your life is in danger and you are incapable of running away. Pretty arguable point when the attacker is only weilding a bat.
2) Unless your Iron Lung is hooked to the internet, no internet attack is an attack on your life. If I steal your laptop from your trunk, you are not confered the right to break into my car. So its a pretty different situation.
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I'm still not sure what I'm going to do, but paying $300 per server isn't an option for us.
These guys are directly opposed the "They" in "They say ...",
who are not to be confused with "The man",
which is a common misconception
But unfortunately, security people are like PHB's, when they see the reaction to their security measures are circumvention (taping passwords to monitors, etc) they think they need more enforcement, not better ideas. Its far easier to blame the user than to admit your idea was a bust.
Its the only way to be safe.
I'm sure there'll be no limit to the potential sources of brain cancer in 25 years. Personally, I blame the liberals.
A product with even less QA than RH9.
Redhat wants to scare business users into buying their "Enterprise" line. There is a group of users for whom Enterprise makes perfect sense, companies that want a nice stable product that doesn't upgrade every 6 months; that the group they founded it for. They soon started advertising that it was more stable (it was). From there, they morphed to advertising that the other product was "less stable" (rare you see a company dissing their own product, esp. as less stable was still pretty damned stable).
When folks still didn't flock to spend hundreds more on Enterprise, they "handed off" the product to the good "Fedora" folks. Now, its an intriguing idea, but its going to have to prove itself. Will they get caught up making sure they have the latest cool stuff and overlook the stability issues that might raise? How well will the new QA process work?
Its sort of a scortched earth policy with a twist; people were happy in those fields when they lit them up, some might run to their enterprise field, but a lot more are going elsewhere. And unfortunately, lots of CxO's are going to point to this and say "Thats why we cant have Linux".
Oviously you fix the ad to say "This fat prick just lost 10,000 grams eating hoagies, and you could to!"
Ten Thousand is a pretty big number
I'm hoping its just a "Welcome back" gag to get past the "Oh my god whats the first strip going to be like?!" stage, I recall Outland did some similarly odd stuff when it first starteded, and after 6 months of nobody liking it more and more old characters came back.
I also think it was a bit of self-effacing humor; his dreams of grandeur didn't quite work out.
Considering "Personal" has seven meanings (with several more sub-meanings for just the adjective form according to Mirriam Webster, this doesn't really clear things up.
But yes, "Personal" means "Personal". As I said, its a "Personal" computer because its mean for my "personal" use, and not for the use of ay other "persons". Does this mean the computers in the school computer lab aren't "Personal Computers" because they don't belong to Betty Sue "personally"?
The poster claimed that Osborne's original laptop did not count as a "personal computer" because it was typically used by a "person" known by the general term "businessman" instead of the general term "pimply faced geek" or "computer hobbiest" as they "personally" prefer to be called.
And you are right, that was a pretty peculiar list.
Methinks you need to study up on the definition of "personal computer". Its got nothing to do with who uses it, just that its generally meant for one user at a time, unlike mainframes, minicomputers, etc.
Just because it was your worst PC doesn't mean it was one of the worst machines. When it was made 48k was pretty good (16k used to be enough), monochrome and floppies was pretty much the standard issue for a buisness computer. There really weren't a lot of higher end options without taking a HUGE jump in price, and that mostly bought you speed, certainly not color and multimedia. Heck, the TRS-80 was one of "the" standard machines
Speed is not the same thing as Stability. TPC-H is a test of speed.
By "YOU" the poster means a manufacturer. Clearly, you can sell old hardware that is taking up space in your warehouse for $10, because the alternative is to pay to have them landfilled. But even then "YOU" don't do it, you find a guy who speicalized in out of date hardware whos got the deep discount channels in place and "HE" sells it for $30. The original poster's point is spot on, it doesn't pay to manufacture a retail $30 video card
What they need is a compelling reason for consumers to want their web sites to share sign on information like credit card info. I certainly wont be shopping anywhere that plans to share my info with anybody else.
All their marking fantasy will hit the brick wall of consumer distrust and make a digusting "splat" sound
I seem to recall a car mod that basically allowed one of the rear seats to flip up and exposed a toilet seat over a "access panel". Now, I'm pretty sure you'd want to be stopped when you use the device (There's a lot of wind turbulence under you car at speed, if you get my drift) but its a start.
Personally, I think having kids in the car is far more distracting than cell phones. And from experience, I've been hit by a woman driving on the shoulder fighting with her kids, but I've never been hit by someone talking on their cell phone.
Plus, think of the benefits of banning children from cars. Its healthier for them (It will cut way back on the number of children killed in car accidents), Parents will have a hard time getting kids to movies and nice restaurants where they can annoy me, and it will improve the resale value of the cars since there will be far fewer juice stains on the back seats.
Everybody wins.
If any wants, I can sell them a copy of that database for just $25,000. A brief sample to show I have the goods:
192.168.0.1
192.168.0.2
192.168.0.3
192.168.0.4
More importantly, can you imagine a beowulf cluster of these things?
Sorry, the devil made me do it
Actually, I rely on Handago's Documents to Go to keep several spreadsheets syncronized to my Palm. Its a relatively quick lookup and in a pinch I can update the data while I wander the data center. And I'm really like the new Tungsten T3 form factor, I just can't yet justify giving away my original T to buy a T3.
Yeah, I'm not sure this sort of thing is likely to be abused. Maybe a local store will pop a message to my phone with some sort of lure to get me in, but unlike most Spam that would be relevant and hopefully interesting. The range thing means I'd be within throwing distance of the "Spammer" to, so unwelcome offensive spam is likely to incur the potential for physical retaliation.
Because thats what we ran when I got here. Of course, the reason most folks adopted it is because they successfully made the corporate links to companies like Dell and IBM. That helped feul the impression that RedHat was the "standard" linux, which encouraged companies to develop towards RedHat, which further encourages RedHat as a "standard", etc.
In the end, what RedHat did was produce a product that people perceived had value, and they spread word of that value to their associates.
Umm, not entirely. What they did was take the work of others (Linus,Richard, and thousands of others) that was release to the public under a specific license for the good of the community, and bundle it with a great utility they developed and released under that same license, the Redhat Package Manager. I do accept that they have done a lot of work creating a great distribution, and they have made real contributions to the body of work that is Linux. But so have lots of others, and the terms of the license that gave them access to this code that let them build that great brand name are pretty clear.
But your right, its their brand name if if they chose to, they have the right to take their ball and go home. Why does this mean we have to stand around and be happy about having to go find a new ball?
The Red Hat name. When I bring folks down to my data center to give them the "Blinking Lights" tour, I can no longer announce we run the bank of computers on "Red Hat Linux". Doesn't matter that Fedora is the same basic OS that gave RHL its strong brand name in the first place. They don't hear the name, they'll think "cheap knock off".
Why not just break down and buy RHEL? Cost. For what it will cost to "upgrade" all my linux boxes I fought hard to get installed in lieu of Windows, I could be serval new servers, which personally I'd rather have. Hell, I can't even claim cost savings anymore, because RHEL is a yearly subscription, and for a typical 3 year lifespan of hardware, $299x3 > $799 once for Windows server 2003.
What does this mean? We IT folks basically have to "Steal the Brand" back. Tell upper management Fedora IS the version of Linux thats been running your servers so reliably for the last 5 years.
It Rox baby!
Sorry, COP just isn't cutting it for me. We need a much cooler acronym for this thing...
1) Shooting is only justified if you feel your life is in danger and you are incapable of running away. Pretty arguable point when the attacker is only weilding a bat.
2) Unless your Iron Lung is hooked to the internet, no internet attack is an attack on your life. If I steal your laptop from your trunk, you are not confered the right to break into my car. So its a pretty different situation.