I absolutely agree. I pushed hard when my kids were born-- both with my wife and my job. My wife and I split up the parenting duties and my job agreed to let me take several weeks off and then go on a 4-day schedule so I had more time to be at home with my kids while they were little. Fast forward to today and me and my kids are still ultra-close. We do almost everything together. I walk them to and from school nearly every day-- (I drive them when its raining). Which is not to say that my wife is not in the picture, she definitely is, and we split up the parenting decisions and duties between us. I've changed more than my share of dirty diapers, as has she. Any company who tells me I can't spend time with my kids can go pound sand. There are always more jobs, but your kids are only kids once.
Whereas MEN can skip TOWN after IMPREGNATING a WOMAN and start writing RANTS on SLASHDOT with completely arbitrary CAPITALIZATIONS on how unfair life is. My bad: I mistook the Stone Age for the 19th century.
Again: both sexes can choose not to procreate. Nothing to see here, move on.
Only until the LAW catches up with them and they are FORCED to PAY child support.
A MAN is NOT allowed to CHOOSE NOT to be a FATHER whereas a WOMEN is ALWAYS ALLOWED to CHOOSE NOT to be a MOTHER.
So go get back into your Flinstone-mobile and pedal your FEMINIST crap elsewhere...
>> Again: both sexes can choose not to procreate. Nothing to see here, move on.
Spoken like a true PRIVILEGED FEMINIST ZEALOT...
BTW, I FAIL to see why there is any real CONCERN over WOMEN getting PAID an EQUAL amount as MEN...
After all, they DO both get PAID, right? It's irrelevant whether one or the other makes more for their efforts, right?
MEN can CHOOSE to abstain completely or wear a condom (or get a vasectomy, if they'll accept a quasi-irreversable surgical option).
That's ONE.
WOMEN can CHOOSE to abstain completely or use one (or several) of a number of forms of birth control including "Female Condoms", Birth-Control Pills (or other Homonal-based methods), Cervical Dams (or other barrier devices), various implantable devices, or can even have their tubes tied if they'll accept a surgical option).
That's ONE
WOMEN can CHOOSE to use a "Morning-After Pill" (aka "PLAN B") in case they weren't thinking the night before...
That's TWO
If the woman gets pregnant anyway...
MEN... are out of luck, no more choices.
WOMEN can CHOOSE to have an ABORTION. (That's right, they are LEGALLY ALLOWED to MURDER their UNBORN child).
A Man.... well, he'd go to prison if he tried.
So we're up to THREE choices for women...
Then, if she CHOOSES to have the baby, she can STILL LEGALLY ABANDON the baby at a "Safe Place" (ironically, a Police Station, a Fire Station, a Hospital-- or other well-known aspects of CIVIL AUTHORITY)
A Man... well, there's always prison.
Now we have FOUR choices for women...
Or if she CHOOSES, she can claim she doesn't KNOW who the father is and give the baby up for ADOPTION.
The Man... can't get away with that. He'd go to jail. And there's only a SLIM possibility that her ruse would ever be discovered in order for HIM to THWART HER. So he can't even assert his PARENTAL RIGHTS.
So let's see... now we're up to FIVE CHOICES for WOMEN... the MEN are still at ONE.
Then the KICKER--
After ALL OF HER OPPORTUNITIES TO CHOOSE---
*IF* She CHOOSES to KEEP the baby, she can FORCE the MAN to pay for it until it turns the majority age. In other words, HE has NO CHOICE in the matter and SHE can bring the ENTIRE POWER OF THE STATE to bear to enforce HER will.
So to sum it up... WOMEN have at least FIVE OPPORTUNITIES to CHOOSE NOT to be a parent, whereas MEN only get ONE OPPORTUNITY to CHOOSE.
And somehow WOMEN call this system "FAIR".
Now I ask you, who is wearing the 19th Century glasses here, HMMM ???
So did my wife. And we did spend our time alternately taking care of our kids. I wouldn't have had it any other way. And to hell with any WOMAN who wants to comment otherwise.
P.S. I don't actually think women should be paid less. But I do belive in equitable rights, and when it comes to women and reproduction, everything is tilted toward the women who don't seem to have ANY shame about it on their part-- and then THEY bitch and complain about the inequities of the work world. Apparently they want "equality" only when the inequity goes against them and don't really give a rat's ass when it goes the other way. And THEN they have the temerity to complain when MEN don't feel as sympathetic to women's issues.
I will say it many times.
FEMINISM isn't about EQUALITY, it's about WOMEN.
And any man who doesn't get that is fucking dense (or needing to get laid).
Don't bother to try to reason with someone wealthy with choices. Men only get one while women get many. And yet it's always the MEN who get saddled with all the responsibility while WOMEN can CHOOSE to have none.
Maybe we could petition NASA to send David Bowie to the Space Station...
Predictable :-)
Yes, she's a first-class bitch.
I absolutely agree. I pushed hard when my kids were born-- both with my wife and my job. My wife and I split up the parenting duties and my job agreed to let me take several weeks off and then go on a 4-day schedule so I had more time to be at home with my kids while they were little. Fast forward to today and me and my kids are still ultra-close. We do almost everything together. I walk them to and from school nearly every day-- (I drive them when its raining). Which is not to say that my wife is not in the picture, she definitely is, and we split up the parenting decisions and duties between us. I've changed more than my share of dirty diapers, as has she. Any company who tells me I can't spend time with my kids can go pound sand. There are always more jobs, but your kids are only kids once.
Yeah, that'd be good-- after he's already nearly grown and he misses out on all the fun kid stuff.
So it's only FAIR and EQUITABLE when it's WOMEN'S rights we're talking about, eh?
UN-Fuck you.
Whereas MEN can skip TOWN after IMPREGNATING a WOMAN and start writing RANTS on SLASHDOT with completely arbitrary CAPITALIZATIONS on how unfair life is. My bad: I mistook the Stone Age for the 19th century.
Again: both sexes can choose not to procreate. Nothing to see here, move on.
Only until the LAW catches up with them and they are FORCED to PAY child support.
A MAN is NOT allowed to CHOOSE NOT to be a FATHER whereas a WOMEN is ALWAYS ALLOWED to CHOOSE NOT to be a MOTHER.
So go get back into your Flinstone-mobile and pedal your FEMINIST crap elsewhere...
>> Again: both sexes can choose not to procreate. Nothing to see here, move on.
Spoken like a true PRIVILEGED FEMINIST ZEALOT...
BTW, I FAIL to see why there is any real CONCERN over WOMEN getting PAID an EQUAL amount as MEN...
After all, they DO both get PAID, right? It's irrelevant whether one or the other makes more for their efforts, right?
Nothing to see here, let's move on.
Really? Let's see...
MEN can CHOOSE to abstain completely or wear a condom (or get a vasectomy, if they'll accept a quasi-irreversable surgical option).
That's ONE.
WOMEN can CHOOSE to abstain completely or use one (or several) of a number of forms of birth control including "Female Condoms", Birth-Control Pills (or other Homonal-based methods), Cervical Dams (or other barrier devices), various implantable devices, or can even have their tubes tied if they'll accept a surgical option).
That's ONE
WOMEN can CHOOSE to use a "Morning-After Pill" (aka "PLAN B") in case they weren't thinking the night before...
That's TWO
If the woman gets pregnant anyway...
MEN... are out of luck, no more choices.
WOMEN can CHOOSE to have an ABORTION. (That's right, they are LEGALLY ALLOWED to MURDER their UNBORN child).
A Man.... well, he'd go to prison if he tried.
So we're up to THREE choices for women...
Then, if she CHOOSES to have the baby, she can STILL LEGALLY ABANDON the baby at a "Safe Place" (ironically, a Police Station, a Fire Station, a Hospital-- or other well-known aspects of CIVIL AUTHORITY)
A Man... well, there's always prison.
Now we have FOUR choices for women...
Or if she CHOOSES, she can claim she doesn't KNOW who the father is and give the baby up for ADOPTION.
The Man... can't get away with that. He'd go to jail. And there's only a SLIM possibility that her ruse would ever be discovered in order for HIM to THWART HER. So he can't even assert his PARENTAL RIGHTS.
So let's see... now we're up to FIVE CHOICES for WOMEN... the MEN are still at ONE.
Then the KICKER--
After ALL OF HER OPPORTUNITIES TO CHOOSE---
*IF* She CHOOSES to KEEP the baby, she can FORCE the MAN to pay for it until it turns the majority age. In other words, HE has NO CHOICE in the matter and SHE can bring the ENTIRE POWER OF THE STATE to bear to enforce HER will.
So to sum it up... WOMEN have at least FIVE OPPORTUNITIES to CHOOSE NOT to be a parent, whereas MEN only get ONE OPPORTUNITY to CHOOSE.
And somehow WOMEN call this system "FAIR".
Now I ask you, who is wearing the 19th Century glasses here, HMMM ???
So did my wife. And we did spend our time alternately taking care of our kids. I wouldn't have had it any other way. And to hell with any WOMAN who wants to comment otherwise.
Yes, but that's because SHE was being "discriminated against".
FEMINISM is not about EQUALITY, it's about WOMEN.
Fine by me. It's equitable.
So why don't the men's rooms have rubbers in them?
(Don't bother to answer)
Me too.
I agree with you. This is about FEMINISM.
P.S. I don't actually think women should be paid less. But I do belive in equitable rights, and when it comes to women and reproduction, everything is tilted toward the women who don't seem to have ANY shame about it on their part-- and then THEY bitch and complain about the inequities of the work world. Apparently they want "equality" only when the inequity goes against them and don't really give a rat's ass when it goes the other way. And THEN they have the temerity to complain when MEN don't feel as sympathetic to women's issues.
I will say it many times.
FEMINISM isn't about EQUALITY, it's about WOMEN.
And any man who doesn't get that is fucking dense (or needing to get laid).
When are you going to wise up?
FEMINISM isn't about EQUALITY, it's about WOMEN.
That's the way the law USED to work.
We now live in a GYNO-centric society.
Remember how FEMINISM is supposed to encompass the needs of men too??
So how's that working out for ya?
You know, that's the SAME way they think about PAY isn't it?
As long as the work comes out of you, you get paid MORE.
But WOMEN who go off to have little HUMANS COME OUT OF THEM work LESS.
That's why women get paid LESS.
I'll never understand why women don't think this is exceptionally equitable arrangement.
Don't bother to try to reason with someone wealthy with choices. Men only get one while women get many. And yet it's always the MEN who get saddled with all the responsibility while WOMEN can CHOOSE to have none.
Only when it's happening to black people and/or women.
White men are always exempt from issues of equality.
Simple, replace the baton with a starter's pistol..
Fuck 'em. I never did like Washington State much anyway.
North Korea, State of War? Fantastic!
Can we shoot him now?
It's like taking a bandage off.
Nah, it's more like taking a diaper off.
>> "Why aren't you demanding the useless fucks in congress give you your tax money back"?
The only problem with that is it would require those self-same useless fucks to get up off their larded arses and DO something.
Question: How do you starve a member of Congress?
Answer: Hide their paycheck under their WORK boots.