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Astronaut Chris Hadfield Performs Space Oddity On the ISS

An anonymous reader writes "With updated lyrics, commander of expedition 35 on the International Space Station, Chris Hadfield, sings Space Oddity on board the ISS. He's not Bowie, but he's pretty good."

212 comments

  1. Mission Accomplished by earlzdotnet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That is all.

    1. Re:Mission Accomplished by DavidClarkeHR · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He's not Bowie, but he's pretty good.

      And, you know, he's actually in space.

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    2. Re:Mission Accomplished by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      He's not Bowie, but he's pretty good.

      And, you know, he's actually in space.

      And Bowie wasn't?

    3. Re:Mission Accomplished by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nicely edited and well produced preproduction--obviously with sound in particular; this communist disregard for copyright law has been reported to DMCA Takedown.

    4. Re:Mission Accomplished by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      good pick up! :D

    5. Re:Mission Accomplished by bratwiz · · Score: 1

      Predictable :-)

    6. Re:Mission Accomplished by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. That fact alone gave me goosebumps. If he had recorded this in his house on earth, I would have watched it and just shrugged.

    7. Re:Mission Accomplished by reovirus1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      DMCA only applies to Earth and one small part on it.

    8. Re:Mission Accomplished by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I was expecting to hate it but I actually enjoyed it.

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    9. Re:Mission Accomplished by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Bowie was high, but not quite in space.

    10. Re:Mission Accomplished by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

      DMCA only applies to Earth and one small part on it.

      For now.

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    11. Re:Mission Accomplished by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0

      I was expecting to hate it but I actually enjoyed it.

      The music was good, but I found the Freddy Mercury pornstache a little distracting.

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    12. Re:Mission Accomplished by Opportunist · · Score: 0

      Being spaced out doesn't mean being in space.

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    13. Re:Mission Accomplished by Opportunist · · Score: 0

      Yup, was pondering the same. Singing a David Bowie song with a Freddy Mercury memorial snot brake.

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    14. Re:Mission Accomplished by techsimian · · Score: 1

      Was tempted to mod down for the Freddy dis, but it made me laugh...and really the internet is full of much worse than a little snark.

    15. Re:Mission Accomplished by Creepy · · Score: 2

      That and the 6 string guitar. Space Oddity is a quintessential 12 string song... and for a segue, Brian May also played 12 string on several songs ('39 and A Night At the Opera come to mind) and he played with Freddy Mercury in Queen.

    16. Re:Mission Accomplished by JWSmythe · · Score: 2

          The only thing is, he may have already had the 6 string there. Sending up a 12 string to make it "correct" is a really expensive venture.

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    17. Re:Mission Accomplished by TheTerseOne · · Score: 1

      This.

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    18. Re:Mission Accomplished by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the guitar was Chris Hadfield's 'personal item' most astronauts are allowed to bring to have something familiar to them.
      Back in February he also used his guitar to have the first earth-space musical collaboration.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvAnfi8WpVE

    19. Re:Mission Accomplished by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Molon Labe".

    20. Re:Mission Accomplished by drcagn · · Score: 1

      You are correct. In this video he describes how the guitar made its way to space:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoMCrkdee8s

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    21. Re:Mission Accomplished by dkleinsc · · Score: 2

      Brian May also played 12 string on several songs ('39 and A Night At the Opera come to mind) and he played with Freddy Mercury in Queen.

      He also is one of the few people with a known and defined Erdos-Bacon-Sabbath Number: He's co-authored astrophysics papers that can trace back to Paul Erdos to get an Erdos Number of 7, is 3 steps away from Kevin Bacon on IMDB, and unsurprisingly has performed with Black Sabbath.

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    22. Re:Mission Accomplished by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      It wasn't a dis. Freddy Mercury was terrific.

      But that mustache was something else entirely. In the 80s it was unique. In 2013 it's just plain creepy.

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    23. Re:Mission Accomplished by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      and unsurprisingly has performed with Black Sabbath.

      "Unsurprisingly"? The other two I can understand, but an astronaut playing Randy Rhodes parts onstage with Sabbath is pretty surprising.

      I'm pretty sure John Glenn never played with Sabbath.

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    24. Re:Mission Accomplished by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      That's Brian May I was talking about, not Chris Hadfield.

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    25. Re:Mission Accomplished by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

      Ya, that's what I figured.. I'll watch the videos tomorrow. Someone else posted the video of how the guitar got there. :)

      Putting it on a resupply launch would have been expensive, and taken up rather valuable space, so I assume he brought it with him...

      Awww, I just had to go watch the video. NASA wanted it here for morale, and he played it. It says it's made over 50,000 orbits around the planet. That's going to be one heck of a piece of music memorabilia someday.

      Thanks drcgan for posting this link:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoMCrkdee8s

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    26. Re:Mission Accomplished by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Don't get me wrong, I love Queen and every single Mercury song is a piece of marvel and art, his voice is absolutely awesome and will be through the times, and he went at least a century too early, but that mustache... sorry.

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    27. Re:Mission Accomplished by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      That's Brian May I was talking about, not Chris Hadfield.

      Oh. That makes sense then.

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    28. Re:Mission Accomplished by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, this is totally fake. It is physically impossible to sing in space, due to the inability of the human diaphragm to compress appropriately in free fall.

  2. Ashes to Ashes by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 4, Informative

    That seems like such a weird song to sing up there sitting in a tin can.

    Bowie sorta updated the matter on Scary Monsters anyway.

    ashes to ashes funk to funky
    we know major tom's a junky
    strung out on heaven's high
    hitting an all time low

    1. Re:Ashes to Ashes by hutsell · · Score: 1

      That seems like such a weird song to sing up there sitting in a tin can.

      Bowie sorta updated the matter on Scary Monsters anyway.

      ashes to ashes funk to funky we know major tom's a junky strung out on heaven's high hitting an all time low

      A fwiw comment about the original song: I knew it had come out decades ago, but was surprised to discover (after checking Wikipedia) it was Bowie's breakthrough and first commercial success, hitting the top 5 in the U.K. when it was released on July 11th, 1969 -- for myself, a date close enough to the Apollo 11's moon landing to making it interestingly appropriate.

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    2. Re:Ashes to Ashes by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      My mother said, "To get things done you'd better not mess with Major Tom"

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    3. Re:Ashes to Ashes by Smurf · · Score: 1

      That seems like such a weird song to sing up there sitting in a tin can.

      Bowie sorta updated the matter on Scary Monsters anyway.

      ashes to ashes funk to funky
      we know major tom's a junky
      strung out on heaven's high
      hitting an all time low

      And that is precisely why Hadfield's version has "updated lyrics", as TFS says. If you listen carefully you'll realize that most of the changes in the lyrics are precisely to the parts that lead to the conjecture that Major Tom may actually be a junkie overdosing.

      (Of course other things like "protein pills" and "check ignition" are changed simply to avoid misleading people that may take him too literally.)

  3. Viral Marketing by NASA by anthony_greer · · Score: 1, Interesting

    This is very cool but it is so well done that it looks less like one guys space video and more like a viral marketing effort from NASA...

    Im ok with it because NASA needs to do whatever it can to recapture Americas attention and imagination and thus maybe we can get public support to make space a priority as it should have always remained.

    1. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by yincrash · · Score: 4, Informative

      Chris Hadfield is a Canadian (working for the CSA). I'm sure that Chris would like more people to want to go in to space and become scientists, etc. If you look at his previous videos though, I would say this is pretty in line with the other stuff he's done (just with more effort in to it).

    2. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by yincrash · · Score: 4, Informative

      Additionally, this is the person in the credits who edited it, also a Canadian, and doesn't work for any space agency. Let's try not to think everything is a conspiracy, please.

    3. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bravo Captain. Safe landing.

    4. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by DavidClarkeHR · · Score: 4, Funny

      Additionally, this is the person in the credits who edited it, also a Canadian, and doesn't work for any space agency. Let's try not to think everything is a conspiracy, please.

      The only conspiracy coming from up here (canada) is a push for more maple syrup for breakfast, and bacon in every meal. We're winning on one of those fronts.

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    5. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by Cwix · · Score: 1

      If you are winning on bacon at every meal, I will be moving there asap. The maple syrup conspiracy will not be looked down upon either lol

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    6. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by Anarchduke · · Score: 1

      By claiming there is no conspiracy, you prove to those who believe in the conspiracy that you are part of the conspiracy.

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    7. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by H0p313ss · · Score: 4, Funny

      Additionally, this is the person in the credits who edited it, also a Canadian, and doesn't work for any space agency. Let's try not to think everything is a conspiracy, please.

      The only conspiracy coming from up here (canada) is a push for more maple syrup for breakfast, and bacon in every meal. We're winning on one of those fronts.

      Let's not forget about operation Poutine.

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    8. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by Demonantis · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I am a Canadian and have seen Chris Hadfield at several presentation. He didn't market anything other than promoting people to pick up an interest in science. I think the high quality video/data transmission capability is something NASA is really proud of technically and they are trying to come up with reasons to show it off. And I agree its really sad that America has forgot how much research and technology NASA has spit out and how much more it could spit out.

    9. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 1

      Well, it does kinda have a giant CSA logo in the corner, complete with awkward bilingual domain name. I'd like to think that at least implies some endorsement, yes?

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    10. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a conspiracy. I'll bet that he got a fat check from Warner Bros. They just released the trailer 3 days ago for the film Gravity about an astronaut being thrown into space after the ISS disintegrates, and this CSA astronaut happens to play the most appropriate song for that while on the actual ISS?

      It is either a conspiracy or a coincidence. But the former is more fun!

    11. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by bratwiz · · Score: 1

      Maybe we could petition NASA to send David Bowie to the Space Station...

    12. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by AaronLS · · Score: 1

      I'm certain the theft of your syrup reserve was a conspiracy to send the Canadian nation into turmoil. (j/k in case anyone thinks I'm serious)

    13. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      By claiming there is no conspiracy, you prove to those who believe in the conspiracy that you are part of the conspiracy.

      That's what they want you to believe.

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    14. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by JabberWokky · · Score: 1

      Let's not forget about operation Poutine.

      I have a feeling that will be the downfall of Canadians in space. Can you imagine gravy covered cheese curds bouncing into equipment in zero-G?

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    15. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the magic of it. The mix of proper gravy and partially molten squeaky cheese likely gives enough surface tension and elasticity that the whole thing might very well hold as a coherent blob under microgravity. No droplets of gravy or fry bits flying into equipment. It would be the perfect space food!

    16. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by jamesh · · Score: 1

      This is very cool but it is so well done that it looks less like one guys space video and more like a viral marketing effort from NASA...

      Im ok with it because NASA needs to do whatever it can to recapture Americas attention and imagination and thus maybe we can get public support to make space a priority as it should have always remained.

      Wrong angle. The record labels will be looking at how many hits this gets and paying NASA (or other space agency) to fly their latest project up into space to record a song. Space travel will be affordable within the decade.

    17. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      What about the conspiracy to put a Tim Horton's in every town on the planet? Not that I'm complaining, mind you.

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    18. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by Bartles · · Score: 1

      They're too busy talking on their free cell phones to notice.

    19. Re:Viral Marketing by NASA by misterooga · · Score: 1

      No problem! You can drink it up now: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/02/poutine-soda-jones-soda-co_n_3201471.html

      Seriously...who comes up with these? I really can only suspect Operation Poutine...

  4. Lens Flare by yincrash · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who knew that having that many lens flares was true to life?!

    1. Re:Lens Flare by sconeu · · Score: 5, Funny

      JJ Abrams?

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    2. Re:Lens Flare by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Who knew that having that many lens flares was true to life?!

      Every video gamer.

      I've got retinal damage from all the flare in current games.

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    3. Re:Lens Flare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously. I sometimes feel they should issue sunglasses to everyone driving up the hill of Mount Panorama in RR3.

  5. Um... by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...he's Canadian.

    And stop being so cynical. Sometimes stuff can be cool without being "viral marketing".

    1. Re:Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Um...he's Canadian.

      Beauty. Now play YYZ, eh?

  6. Space oddity by Clived · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Attaboy Chris

    you sounded great, A Canadian space rock and roller.Hey, if you ever wanted to try your hand at karaoke .. we are at the Wally, Donlands and OConnor in Toronto.

    *grin* and have a safe trip back

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  7. Re: Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Shut up, retard.

  8. Safe return by Dan+East · · Score: 1

    Here's to a safe return journey back to earth tomorrow.

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  9. Great footage too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I know the ISS isn't considered a glamorous undertaking like a mars trip would be, but damn it is one impressive piece of hardware, and the most advanced thing we've built in space to date.

    1. Re:Great footage too by hawguy · · Score: 1

      I know the ISS isn't considered a glamorous undertaking like a mars trip would be, but damn it is one impressive piece of hardware, and the most advanced thing we've built in space to date.

      Is it really that much more impressive than Skylab, which launched 40 years ago? Skylab had a pressurized volume of 320 m^2 versus 837 m^2 of the ISS today - not even 3 times larger, despite launching nearly 30 years later. You'd think that in 40 years we could have something in space that's more impressive. The Curiosity Rover seems much more impressive in comparison than a tin can that orbits 250 miles above the earth.

    2. Re:Great footage too by ldobehardcore · · Score: 5, Informative

      Skylab was never really meant to be a long-term satellite. It spent 2,249 and only 171 of those were spent occupied. In comparison, the ISS has been in orbit for 5288 days, 4575 of them occupied. So I'd say ISS is over twice as kickass, and over 25 times as habitable as skylab.

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    3. Re:Great footage too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yep, it makes it seem pretty fucking stupid that we used 37 Space Shuttle missions with a 25 tonne payload capacity to build and supply this space station when it could have been built simpler with a couple of Saturn Vs.

      The lesson here is that heavy lifting capability is how you win in space, not super fancy flying trucks. It probably would have been cheaper to build an ISS in orbit and another spare orbiting the Moon with heavy lift rockets than to go the piecemeal way that we did.

    4. Re:Great footage too by bickerdyke · · Score: 2

      *Impressive* would rather be a description of the Mir. Having a space station that consists 98% out of duck tape and paper clips, build around a actual former space station that broke down is pretty impressive....

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    5. Re:Great footage too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...It probably would have been cheaper to build an ISS in orbit...

      Then I nominate to put your happy ass in space with a wrench and a torch...

    6. Re:Great footage too by hawguy · · Score: 1

      ...It probably would have been cheaper to build an ISS in orbit...

      Then I nominate to put your happy ass in space with a wrench and a torch...

      It's a little late for that (or early) since the USA has no heavy lift capability to speak of currently, plus I think you missed his point. The ISS weighs 450 tonnes, the Saturn V could lift 120 tonne to LEO, compared to 24 tonne for the space shuttle. So 4 Saturn V launches could have gotten the whole thing launched, compared with a minimum of 20 space shuttle launches. And the Russians could have shuttled crew much more cost efficiently than the space shuttle leaving more money for other things.

    7. Re:Great footage too by Comrade+Ogilvy · · Score: 1

      The space shuttle was always a military-industrial complex socialism dressed up in a NASA publicity stunt. The very lucrative American aeronautics companies did not want to compete with a viable Russian space program, even after the Cold War was very obviously over.

  10. Pretty Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey great song and performed extremely well. I haven't followed the goings on at the ISS but this has certainly raised its profile with me; nice down-to-earth touch. Safe landing.

  11. Even better - duet with Barenaked Ladies by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That was pretty good, but I really liked his joint work with Barenaked Ladies (he sings there also, even though Ed Roberts does most of the vocals) in a nice tribute to the ISS...

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    1. Re: Even better - duet with Barenaked Ladies by shitzu · · Score: 1

      Isn't there a lag in communications?

    2. Re:Even better - duet with Barenaked Ladies by BlueLightning · · Score: 1

      So it's all been done before?

    3. Re: Even better - duet with Barenaked Ladies by digitig · · Score: 1

      Isn't there a lag in communications?

      Negligible compared to the latency involved in trying to use a DAW with recent Windows sound drivers.

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  12. Hefty pricetag by Spazed · · Score: 4, Funny

    Most expensive music video ever.

    1. Re:Hefty pricetag by Anarchduke · · Score: 1

      Not even close. Michael Jackson's Scream cost 7 million dollars to produce.

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    2. Re:Hefty pricetag by Spazed · · Score: 1

      You realize this was actually filmed in space. . .

    3. Re:Hefty pricetag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He is suggesting the ISS was put there to make the music video, which would push it as most expensive. But only an idiot would suggest that. Unless of couse its sarcasm, but you can never tell on the internet.

    4. Re:Hefty pricetag by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      Unless of couse its sarcasm, but you can never tell on the internet.

      Maybe you can't.

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    5. Re:Hefty pricetag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wasn't it? Just because they made use of it and performed a few experiments to make waiting more interesting doesn't annihilate the fact that the ISS's purpose was mainly to perform Space Oddity on location.

    6. Re:Hefty pricetag by dwye · · Score: 1

      And how much did it cost to boost Astronaut Hadfield to the ISS?

    7. Re:Hefty pricetag by yurtinus · · Score: 1

      He wasn't sent there to make a music video, y'know...

      ...I think

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  13. Extra credit to Cananda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doughnuts all around, eh.

  14. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by The+Bad+Astronomer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "National pride"? He's Canadian, you know. Which nation do you mean? Do you also know they don't work 24 hours per day? And on their off time, ISS astronauts still breathe? Of course, he did use up a lot of electrons saving the files and transmitting them to Earth, so I'll make sure NASA or the CSA reimburses you per Coulomb.

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  15. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You are an idiot. The man is making space (geeky) real (taxpayers). Space is the future. Anyone with an actual personality is welcome up there. This is my new favorite astronaut. Neil Armstrong step aside. We need to get back. Did you see his other 50+ educational videos?

  16. Lucky to have him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Always helps to have an interesting character as the public face, and I have certainly been following the news around ISS these last several months. Commander Hadfield, you are one interesting guy, good job, and have a safe trip home.

  17. Imagine How Disappointed Richard Branson Is.... by Petersko · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Bragging rights like "First Music Video in Space" don't come around every day!

  18. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by hawguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... then we need to shut down this thing NOW! We seriously have NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF TREASURE than to record a music video? This is rediculous. Let's turn off the lights, lock the door on the way out and save that money for something more important. Don't give me this "national pride" or "scientific discover" B.S. If that stuff needs to get done, then F'ing do it and don't waste time singing in space. This is probably the most collossal waste of resources imaginable. How many resources were needed to scrub the air necessary for the singing? When you are in space, that stuff matters, A LOT! The first take wasn't the last take, that I know. Don't give me the "get kids into science" schtick either. Kids who are swayed by silly things like this, statistically don't end up any good at the math needed for real science anyway. I teach our "future engineers" in a top state university. Most can't even solve a triangle, let alone deal with any higher math. If you are swayed by this commercial, you don't have the chops to stick with an engineering career.

    Humans, even astronauts, need downtime - If you want a human to be effective, then you can't fill 100% of their waking time with work.

  19. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    > We seriously have NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF TREASURE than to record a music video?

    Jesus dude, lighten up. If we took your activities performed at university over the course of 3 months, could we find anything that you did for 4 minutes that did not directly benefit the students you are teaching? Would it be fair to make a big spectacle and claim that we should lock the doors to your school and shut it down after giving it "millions of dollars worth of treasure" because you read an email from a loved one, or went to the bathroom, or ate lunch? Science is conducted by humans, and humans need to take a break from time to time. Just chill out already.

    > This is probably the most collossal waste of resources imaginable.
    Really? This is the most collossal waste of resources imaginable?

  20. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by sconeu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    On top of everything else, learn how to use a spellchecker. Your spelling of "ridiculous" is ridiculous.

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  21. Congrats by n3r0.m4dski11z · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This guy's near daily media appearances has certainly inspired many canadians including myself. I have watched many children sing along with his ISS song (not as good as david bowie, but its the thought that counts) and it really inspires. Hopefully helping lots of kids to think about becoming scientists, researchers and yes astronauts. Space can seem so dull sometimes, he really brings it to life.

    I may not care for much patriotically these days, but hes really doing canada a service being so media savvy. I am not sure if american astronauts do so much singing, and perhaps its covered extensively by their local media and I just never hear about it. But he really could be one of a kind.

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    1. Re:Congrats by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Informative

      This guy's near daily media appearances has certainly inspired many canadians including myself. I have watched many children sing along with his ISS song (not as good as david bowie, but its the thought that counts) and it really inspires. Hopefully helping lots of kids to think about becoming scientists, researchers and yes astronauts. Space can seem so dull sometimes, he really brings it to life.

      I may not care for much patriotically these days, but hes really doing canada a service being so media savvy. I am not sure if american astronauts do so much singing, and perhaps its covered extensively by their local media and I just never hear about it. But he really could be one of a kind.

      Before he launched in December, Chris mentioned he was going to do the first album recorded in space, I'm hoping this was just a taste of what's coming.

      I have to be honest, I've been watching a LOT of Chris' videos that get posted by the CSA (Canadian Space Agency) (an agency facing budget cuts from the Harper Government(tm)). I don't think I've seen anyone from the ISS do so much media relations in their off time.

      I know a few other commanders have done media work - Don Pettit did some as well. With the American Physical Society (any physics major should know them) he did a bunch of videos called "Science off the Sphere" (which I apparently finally got my T-Shirt from that).

      Chris is definitely very media friendly and has hosted a LOT Of media events while aboard - he even keeps in touch with Discovery Canada's Daily Planet, the longest running science program around. Honestly, Chris Hadfield is awesome!

      Safe journey home - your country eagerly awaits your arrival!

      (Alas, Canada's first astronaut was snubbed recently...)

    2. Re:Congrats by FireFury03 · · Score: 2

      I may not care for much patriotically these days, but hes really doing canada a service being so media savvy.

      He's doing the *world* a service. His regular youtube videos have been excellent; but more than that, his regular facebook posts really bring it home to you that this stuff is happening right now all the time. And he's not just followed by Canadians - no other astronaut from any nation has engaged with the public as much as he has. I'm hoping we see more of this from other astronauts.

    3. Re:Congrats by Zeromous · · Score: 1

      I know my 3 year old is certainly inspired. Thanks Chris!

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    4. Re:Congrats by steelfood · · Score: 2

      I am not sure if american astronauts do so much singing, and perhaps its covered extensively by their local media's lawyers

      This is why we can't have nice things in the U.S.

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  22. (My) definitive version by gman003 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    In an odd little coincidence, the first time I ever listened to the original version of this song was yesterday. What can I say, I don't listen to much music, not from that era (yes, yes, I'll get off your damn lawn now, old man).

    I have now listened to the Commander Hadfield version more times than the original. And, while Bowie is undoubtedly more musically talented, there's something about Hadfield's version that makes it seem more... emotional? Real? Something like that. Whatever the reason is, I prefer it over the original.

    1. Re:(My) definitive version by SternisheFan · · Score: 2

      The original David Bowie song is really about drug addiction. In his later hit, 'Ashes to Ashes', Bowie sings, "We all know Major Tom's a junkie."

    2. Re:(My) definitive version by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Twist it again, as always appropriate with Bowie. Spaceheads are junkies, too.

    3. Re:(My) definitive version by SternisheFan · · Score: 1
      From the website'Songfacts:

      Bowie wrote this after seeing the 1968 Stanley Kubrick movie 2001: A Space Odyssey. "Space Oddity" is a play on the phrase "Space Odyssey," and the title does not appear in the lyrics. The song tells the story of Major Tom, a fictional astronaut who cuts off communication with Earth and floats into space. In a 2003 interview with Performing Songwriter magazine, Bowie explained: "In England, it was always presumed that it was written about the space landing, because it kind of came to prominence around the same time. But it actually wasn't. It was written because of going to see the film 2001, which I found amazing. I was out of my gourd anyway, I was very stoned when I went to see it, several times, and it was really a revelation to me. It got the song flowing. It was picked up by the British television, and used as the background music for the landing itself. I'm sure they really weren't listening to the lyric at all (laughs). It wasn't a pleasant thing to juxtapose against a moon landing. Of course, I was overjoyed that they did. Obviously, some BBC official said, 'Oh, right then, that space song, Major Tom, blah blah blah, that'll be great.' 'Um, but he gets stranded in space, sir.' Nobody had the heart to tell the producer that."

      In 1980, Bowie released a follow-up to this called "Ashes To Ashes," where Major Tom once again makes contact with Earth. He says he is happy in space, but Ground Control comes to the conclusion that he is a junkie.

      http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=1201

  23. l'art pour l'art by gman003 · · Score: 2

    Does everything need to be about money? Can we not do things for the sake of doing them?

    Was that not the great driving force behind the space race? We may have done some science on the moon, but it was hardly worth the billions we spent. But it was worth it to go there, simply for the sake of going there.

    1. Re:l'art pour l'art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      glad I could pay for this guy to strum a guitar in space, meanwhile I got bills to pay and the house fucking me out of overtime

    2. Re:l'art pour l'art by gman003 · · Score: 3, Informative

      You, and several other haters, are falling for a variant of the sunk cost fallacy - that, because it was so expensive to get him into space, every second of his time needs to be occupied in "useful tasks".

      That's not how it works. There has to be some "down time", both as a buffer against the "useful tasks" taking longer than anticipated (like that ammonia leak they had to fix a few days ago), and just because human beings cannot be working every waking minute.

      The cost/benefit analysis included those necessary "down times", and it was deemed worth it to send him into space. This music video was not planned for, but there was sufficient extra time found for it, and I'm sure once again, it was deemed more productive than anything else he could do (remember, a lot of "productive work" requires new equipment to be shipped up there, which is expensive).

  24. Hello Space Boy by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 1

    That was brilliant.

    Thanks

  25. Re:Hello Space Boy (it's "Hallo space boy ...") by nocloo · · Score: 1

    It's "Hallo space boy ..." From the man himself
    https://twitter.com/DavidBowieReal

  26. Re:pfft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    actually I take that back.

    It was really pretty good. He looks so at home up there in micro-g.

  27. Space by gd2shoe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I disagree.

    America may have forgotten about the drive to build, explore, settle, create, but humanity hasn't. Space isn't sour grapes. It's hard, and settling it is going to be a lot harder. But it will happen.

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  28. Space Race by gd2shoe · · Score: 1

    As has been put much more eloquently by others, the space race wasn't about climbing a mountain because it's there. It was about trying to prevent world war 3 (or at least postpone it significantly). As expensive as it was, it was better than all out nuclear war.

    It was akin to challenging one's rival to a foot race instead of a boxing match. It was one of the most mature things national governments have ever done. (room remains for improvement)

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  29. Astronaut Chis Hadfield Performs Space Oddity by ma1wrbu5tr · · Score: 1

    There I thought I was gonna see a sword swallowed or a nail into a sinus cavity..in SPACE! This folk music is no Oddity!

    "Astronaut Chris Hadfiled Performs the Song Space Oddity"...FTFY

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    1. Re:Astronaut Chis Hadfield Performs Space Oddity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No doubt, that would be a better title. However, an algorithm decided that omitting that one word would draw in more traffic as people like you and I had strange thoughts evoked by this one. Isn't technology great?

  30. Lyrics by XNormal · · Score: 2

    Ground control to Major Tom! Your ammonia leaks, there's something wrong. Can you hear me Major Tom?

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  31. Not very long delay, station is really close by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Informative

    Isn't there a lag in communications?

    The ISS orbits around 330km - 435 km above the earth (around 230 miles on average). That's less than the width of a single province in Canada!

    If you look at various communication delays based on distance, and assume that during the performance the ISS was basically roughly over Canada or even the U.S, you can see that the delay would be substantially less than for most international phone calls! In fact calling from one major city to another in the same country probably has as much delay, and there's no discernible delay to the caller in that case (well if you aren't using Skype).

    It just goes to show how there's not much up you have to go before you are in space.

    Also one could imagine that if you were "super serious" and kind of nerdy about doing a performance (as both the commander and BNL would be), that you might also set up a synchronized metronome that really did clock off at exactly the same time at the two locations to help the performer on the ISS stay in sync. But I doubt that was needed, and for a performance it's probably far more valuable to be able to riff off how the other performers are playing.

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    1. Re:Not very long delay, station is really close by FireFury03 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Isn't there a lag in communications?

      The ISS orbits around 330km - 435 km above the earth (around 230 miles on average). That's less than the width of a single province in Canada!

      If you look at various communication delays based on distance, and assume that during the performance the ISS was basically roughly over Canada or even the U.S, you can see that the delay would be substantially less than for most international phone calls!

      As far as I can tell, the high bandwidth connections they use for media events are done by bouncing a Ku band signal off geostationary satellites(*), and the delay is significant (watch any of his videos taking questions from school kids and you'll see a noticable communications delay).

      (* they don't seem to have global coverage with Ku band, only being able to use it when in range of certain satellites. This surprises me because I would've expected there to be enough geostationary sats for one to be visible from anywhere in orbit and it can't be *that* expensive to buy bandwidth on several.)

    2. Re:Not very long delay, station is really close by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      Does anyone have an idea why they're doing this? IIRC the distance to geostationary orbit is bigger than the omne to ground, so why waste energy for that long distance stuff?

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    3. Re:Not very long delay, station is really close by FireFury03 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Does anyone have an idea why they're doing this? IIRC the distance to geostationary orbit is bigger than the omne to ground, so why waste energy for that long distance stuff?

      At a guess: the Ku band geostationary satellites are already there commercially, so its cheap to just buy some bandwidth when they need it. Doing high bandwidth communications with the ISS directly would require an extensive network of dedicated ground stations with pointable dishes (and appropriate backhauls between them) - remember the ISS is doing an orbit every 90 minutes, so a single ground station isn't going to be able to keep a connection for long. A geostationary sat is going to be able to keep the ISS within its coverage area for much longer than a ground station.

    4. Re:Not very long delay, station is really close by FireFury03 · · Score: 1

      Brief information here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-3NJxzlAGU&t=10m16s

      His description of how they access the internet is a bit vague.. sort of sounds like they have some kind of remote-desktop setup for internet access, which seems slightly odd. I guess if this is the case, it does protect them from malware by ensuring that only the remote-desktop server is infected rather than the ISS computers themselves, which might be the whole reason for it.

    5. Re:Not very long delay, station is really close by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 1

      It's not too hard to spot the ISS going overhead when the conditions are right - it's like a fairly bright star going at a fair speed across the sky. It's visible for just minutes at a time - it's sufficiently close to the Earth that you'd definitely need a hefty world-wide network to communicate directly.

      (NASA ISS sightings site here.)

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    6. Re:Not very long delay, station is really close by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 3, Informative

      Does anyone have an idea why they're doing this? IIRC the distance to geostationary orbit is bigger than the omne to ground, so why waste energy for that long distance stuff?

      The ISS orbits the Earth 15.7 times a day. It has an orbital period of 92 minutes and 50 seconds. That means that it's rotational velocity relative to the centre of the Earth is almost 4 degrees per minute, which is pretty difficult to track.

      Of course, that's assuming your antenna is at the centre of the Earth, and the Earth doesn't obstruct signals (not true). In the real world, your antenna is on the surface of the Earth, and is only going to be able to communicate with the space station when it's passing overhead. The angular velocity of the station relative to you is going to be much, much higher than 4 degrees a minute, because it's coming mostly towards you, passing relatively close. (The Earth's radius is 6371 km and the ISS orbits at 330 to 435 km of altitude, so it's pretty close.

      If you can't picture this difference in relative velocity, imagine a fast car on a long circular race track. Imagine you're standing in the middle and turning to watch it as it circles you at constant speed. Now imagine yourself trackside. The car whings past you in the blink of an eye, then takes a seemingly long time to go round the rest of the track, and when it gets back to you, it whings past again.

      So while the path of the ISS can be accurately computed in advance and could theoretically be programmed into a motorised antenna, it would have to be a very very expensive motorised antenna, and it would have to be meticulously cleaned before every use to avoid any of the bearings jammed even for a fraction of a second.

      Not only that, but if we picture ourselves back at the trackside, we get the familiar weeeEEEEEE-Yowoooooooooo as the car passes us: the so-called Doppler effect. Any direct transmission between the ISS and ground stations would suffer the same distortion due to relative speeds. A broadcast to geostationary orbit suffers no doppler effect relative to any point on the surface of the Earth (obviously -- zero relative velocity), and the distortion due to the relative speed of the ISS vs geostationary is pretty much negligible (the ISS's orbit has a radius of approximately 6700km, whereas a geostationary satellite's rotation has a radius of 42000km -- you're no longer at the race track; you're now watching someone driving in a small circle at the opposite side of the car park, and the engine noise doesn't change pitch perceptibly).

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    7. Re:Not very long delay, station is really close by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the pointer & explanation. While I was quite aware of the problems for direct communications ground to ISS, I somehow expected it much more difficult to aim for the parking lot from the race-car but of course this gets easier with distance

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    8. Re:Not very long delay, station is really close by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a one-way communication, recorded for later. It doesn't matter whether there is a 200 ms or 5 minute delay. After the first +n delay everything after that looks immediate to those watching at the time.

    9. Re:Not very long delay, station is really close by Strider- · · Score: 1

      Does anyone have an idea why they're doing this? IIRC the distance to geostationary orbit is bigger than the omne to ground, so why waste energy for that long distance stuff?

      They do this so they can have long term communications. If they were doing pure space to ground, you'd need a massive network of ground stations to pickup the station as it goes by. Because the altitude is so low, the patch of ground that the station can see at any one time is actually pretty small (I've bound signals off the ISS's APRS system and hit Saskatchewan from BC, but that's pushing it). This is hard enough on land, but never mind the fact that much of the earth it flies over is made out of water. :)

      Instead, they go up to the TDRSS satellites (also used by the shuttle when it was flying, Hubble, and various other low orbit satellites). This means that the station only needs to hand off 3 or 4 times an orbit, rather than every 10 minutes, and means that you only need 3 ground stations to support it (Any given Geosynchronous satellite can see approximately 120 degrees of the earth).

      There are gaps in coverage, but not actually due to the TDRSS constellation per se, rather it's because of where the antenna onboard the station is located. In certain parts of the orbit, the antenna's view of the satellite is blocked by variou sstructures onboard the ISS (They can't shoot through the solar wings, heat exchangers, etc...)

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  32. Never liked Bowie's performance of this song by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is best performance of this song, I have ever heard
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVT0RYEfLH8

  33. Viral marketing? FINALLY!!! by Damon+Campagna · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Commander Hadfield is the most well known astronaut since Sally Ride -- and with this, he'll be right up there with Neil Armstrong. If this is viral marketing, then THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SPACE PROGRAM NEEDS! Fun, excitement, exquisite beauty -- that's what Hadfield has been beaming back to Earth for the last five months. I've been following his facebook posts for the last couple months and I was genuinely concerned about the ammonia leak this week and his spacewalk, and so were millions of other people. How many "fans" will watch his live prime-time EDT re-entry tomorrow night after watching this video tonight? How many even bothered to watch the final Shuttle landing? This guy is a bona fide star and we who care about space exploration should be embracing him.

  34. Guitar playing by lolococo · · Score: 1

    I'm not a big fan of Bowie but I still think this was very impressive and inspiring.
    I'm wondering how hard it was for him to play guitar in the absence of gravity? I'll bet he had to anchor himself pretty solidly somehow ...

    1. Re:Guitar playing by tbird81 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Here's the video of him talking about playing the guitar in space.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLRunqi1mDM

      Advantage is that you don't need a guitar strap, disadvantage is that you float around if you'd not holding something with your feet. Also tend to mis-fret when first in space.

      You can see the velcro on it in the Bowie song, but i think that is more for stowage than use.

  35. Can we at least spell the astronaut's name right? by cmason · · Score: 4, Informative

    I mean, in the title. Really? The dude's in space. I think the least we can do for him is not space out on the spelling of his name.

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  36. What?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For a moment there, I was wondering what kind of oddity he performed in space...

  37. Re:Ground Control To Major Fuck UP by Tablizer · · Score: 0

    Let's punch it up a bit ...floating in my trash can ...planet Earth is blue, without oxy so are you

    Though I'm past one hundred thousand miles ...on my warranty
    And I think my spaceship knows, so it won't let me take a pee.

    next?

  38. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by seebs · · Score: 2

    Please learn something. About something.

    Seriously, the chances are pretty good that if you learn anything about any field of human endeavor, you will find something that is part of a compelling rebuttal to your idiotic screed.

    Starting point: Humans cannot productively "work" all of their waking hours. They have to do other things to remain sane and functional. Do you think we should intentionally have the space station be run by, and maintained by, people who are no longer sane and dangerously incompetent from overwork? No?

    Then maybe they should relax and goof off sometimes.

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  39. Re:Really? by c0lo · · Score: 1

    This would be ok on TMZ... someone beat the editor!

    What? The fact that the guy should better die on ISS or else face the RIAA/BPI suit for unlicensed public performance (no matter David Bowie's prediction) isn't interesting enough for /.?

    (grin)

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  40. Something really usefull for Earth by Max_W · · Score: 1

    It is clear by now that the space is extremely hostile environment for biological systems.

    A robotized HD high-speed telescope-digital camera on the surface of the moon could provide nearly real time imagery of the whole Earth surface. It could be very useful for mapping Earth.

    Satellite imagery is spotty. Satellites have unstable orbits. They contribute to the space junk issue.

    Good maps of Earth can do a lot, a lot of good to our planet, - to reduce traffic pollution, to fight fires more effectively, and so on and so forth.

    Robots are smaller than humans. They do not require tanks of oxygen. So the smaller more ecological rockets can be used.

    1. Re:Something really usefull for Earth by Max_W · · Score: 1

      I mean we use daily maps which are built on satellite imagery 3 - 5 years old. And even this is only in large cities and in industrial countries.

      Since the orbit of satellites are unstable the imagery is hard to connect with geographical coordinates precisely.

      I do not think humanity can live in space. We on Earth are protected from deadly radiation by the massive iron-nickel rotating planet's kernel.

      So let us place the HD telescope-digital camera on the surface of the Moon and direct it not to the remote stars, but the the Earth for a change.

    2. Re:Something really usefull for Earth by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1
      And if all we ever wanted was pretty pictures of the Earth, we'd leave it to the satellites. But that's not what the ISS is for, is it?

      Satellite imagery is spotty. Satellites have unstable orbits. They contribute to the space junk issue.

      "Spotty"? What does that mean? Also satellites do have the slight advantage of being 2000 times closer.

      Robots are smaller than humans.

      Except for the ones which are bigger.

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    3. Re:Something really usefull for Earth by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1
      Oh, also this:

      A robotized HD high-speed telescope-digital camera on the surface of the moon could provide nearly real time imagery of the whole Earth surface. It could be very useful for mapping Earth.

      No. It'd be imagery of half the surface, and you wouldn't be able to look at the other half until two weeks later.

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    4. Re:Something really usefull for Earth by Max_W · · Score: 1

      It means that satellite imagery of more or less good quality exists only for areas where there are a lot of well-to-do users, but not for, say, small towns in remote parts.

      Robots can be miniaturized even further. Humans can not.

    5. Re:Something really usefull for Earth by Max_W · · Score: 1

      To weeks... I work now on a map of the town with a satellite imagery from 2010. And besides it is offset by about 100 meters at some spots.

      Two weeks is fine. Even two months is not that bad.

    6. Re:Something really usefull for Earth by Max_W · · Score: 1

      The distance is not the problem. There are telescopes already which make photos of planets around other stars.

      The problem, however, is the clouds and fog. But the telescope-HD camera can make photos of Earth at the areas where the air is clear on that day.

    7. Re:Something really usefull for Earth by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      To weeks... I work now on a map of the town with a satellite imagery from 2010. And besides it is offset by about 100 meters at some spots.

      Newer imagery likely exists, but hasn't been licensed yet.

      And the moon would only be able to get consistent imagery of the tropics, because it can't look downwards on the high latitudes except during rare extreme phases.

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    8. Re:Something really usefull for Earth by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      The distance is not the problem. There are telescopes already which make photos of planets around other stars.

      And those photos would be clearer get if we were 2000 times closer, like the satellites in LEO are than the moon.

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    9. Re:Something really usefull for Earth by Max_W · · Score: 1

      Satellites' orbits are unstable. They do not carry on board telescopes. I suggest to place on the Moon a large international telescope directed to the Earth.

    10. Re:Something really usefull for Earth by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      Satellites' orbits are unstable.

      Perhaps ultimately, but at least one has been up there over 50 years.

      They do not carry on board telescopes.

      Except for the ones that do...

      I suggest to place on the Moon a large international telescope directed to the Earth.

      2000 times further away. Poor coverage of the poles. No coverage of every point on Earth for two weeks out of four.

      Seems to me a fleet in LEO would be far more practical. If you're going to put a telescope on the moon, build a behemoth in a polar crater and use it for looking into space.

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    11. Re:Something really usefull for Earth by Max_W · · Score: 1

      Perhaps. But the space junk is already very serious problem.

      Maybe instead of many satellites it would be better to have one powerful robotized HD telescope on the moon. Nowadays the satellite imagery of Earth is not good at all. It is often outdated by years (two weeks is nothing in comparison), sometimes misaligned by hundreds of meters, or nonexistent at all for some areas..

      In this case we will know the telescope-digital camera location precisely and the automatic alignment of images to the Earth surface coordinates should be possible.

      The Moon is also drifting but it is negligible. Satellites however do require the fuel constantly to stay in more or less precise orbit. Satellites are and always will be temporal poor-man solution.

    12. Re:Something really usefull for Earth by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 1
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    13. Re:Something really usefull for Earth by Max_W · · Score: 1

      It looks impressive. However there is no good satellite imagery coverage of the whole Earth surface yet. Even though the size of the computer hard disks and digital cameras productivity already allow to do this.

  41. Re:Really? by AaronLS · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm sure someone has been just as narrow sighted before... "How is the America the future? The future of what? It's an empty savage infested hell. It's good place to send those who disagree with our religious beliefs. That's it. America is the past, the Columbus Age is as dead as polytheism."

  42. Surprise NASA didn't force him to return by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 0

    Please. Institutions are about as humorless and paranoid as it gets. I am surprised the mental health professionals at NASA didn't read the lyrics to that song and conclude that they had to remotely put this guy down.

    1. Re:Surprise NASA didn't force him to return by pthisis · · Score: 1

      Please. Institutions are about as humorless and paranoid as it gets. I am surprised the mental health professionals at NASA didn't read the lyrics to that song and conclude that they had to remotely put this guy down.

      His version has very bland, sanitized lyrics. There's no "tell my wife I love her very much", no circuit's dead, no "planet earth is blue and there's nothing I can do", basically none of the lyrics that make the original both great and depressing.

      It's definitely cool given the circumstances and I'm all about any boost it may give to space exploration, but it's pretty soulless compared to the original, with none of the existential loneliness of the original (probably for exactly the reason you imply).

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    2. Re:Surprise NASA didn't force him to return by Sun · · Score: 2

      To be fair, had I been in his position, I wouldn't want to sing those parts of the song too.

      He had other lyrics, about his mission being close to over, which I believe were written specifically for him.

      Shachar

  43. Get back to me... by elvstone · · Score: 1

    ...with a version of "Life on Mars?" and we'll talk.

  44. Pretty good? That's all? by Begemot · · Score: 2

    He's not Bowie, but he's pretty good

    OMG, you guys are a very tough crowd. To me he sang perfectly well!

    1. Re:Pretty good? That's all? by DarthVain · · Score: 1

      Considering he had the best acoustics around...

      Because, you know, he has and oxygen atmosphere to allow for the transmission of sound...

      Sheesh! The guy is singing in a tin can in FSCKING SPACE!

      Cut him some slack. I am going to go so far to say, that he is WAY better than Bowie, at singing in a space station orbiting earth in space. Bowie might win the, "I sound better in a recording studio or concert where everything around me exists to make me sound better" award.

  45. Re: Really? by grub · · Score: 0

    The three martini lunch is dead?

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  46. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by bugnuts · · Score: 1

    Most can't even solve a triangle

    Dang. Triangles are a problem?

    I'm calling Orkin.

    DNFTT

  47. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If being on the ISS watching Earth go by didn't inspire you to creativity of various forms, then I'd say there's something immensely wrong with you.
    But if you want to be more logical about it: for space science to continue, you need people to want to put money into it- it's not just about getting the kids to be engineers and scientists, you need to inspire people with control of money, be they the electorate, politicians or wealthy businessmen, or the people who one day may become so.
    In regards supposed importance and needing to 'get done'- ultimately space research isn't important, if you define important as necessary. But neither was a lot of human innovation- in the grand scheme of things, we don't actually need to live in skyscrapers, we don't need to be able to travel thousands of kilometres in a day, we certainly don't need the internet, we don't need to have significant swathes of the population living into their eighth, ninth, tenth, even eleventh decades etc etc.

  48. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by fishybell · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wait, what?! They're allowed to sleep?! OUTRAGEOUS!

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  49. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We seriously have NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF TREASURE than to record a music video? This is rediculous. Let's turn off the lights, lock the door on the way out and save that money for something more important.

    What's the point of putting humans in space if you can't be human there?

  50. Re: Really? by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

    I think that's an autocorrect error. "Space is the past. The three Martian lunch is dead." Little known fact: the majority of astronauts were members of the NRA, and they went to space on a big game hunt. Aliens are extinct.

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  51. Re:Really? by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 3, Funny

    Space hasn't ratified the Berne Convention.

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  52. Re:Not the only oddity. by reovirus1 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Capitalism? We haven't seen that on this planet for quite some time. Plenty of corporatism to go around though.

  53. Music recorded on Earth by loufoque · · Score: 1

    Why couldn't they push the envelope and record the music on the ISS too?

    1. Re:Music recorded on Earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sending a small guitar is one thing. Sending a piano is another.

    2. Re:Music recorded on Earth by _anomaly_ · · Score: 4, Informative

      The guitar and vocals were, in fact, recorded in space.

      The music was mixed with his guitar and vocals on Earth. What else do you want? Chris Hadfield in space, mixing tracks with the original recording in Pro Tools? Him playing the piano accompaniment on the ISS?

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    3. Re:Music recorded on Earth by loufoque · · Score: 2

      I want a full orchestra in the ISS

    4. Re:Music recorded on Earth by _anomaly_ · · Score: 1

      Ah, yes, that would be impressive!

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  54. Hell of an advert for the guitar maker! by wallyhall · · Score: 1

    Bet it's a real pig to play without gravity! I have exactly the same capo as him... Shame I'm down here and not up there :) Beautiful video.

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  55. ...with a version of "Life on Mars?" by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 1

    ...on Mars.

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  56. Major Tom is still a junkie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...people forget

  57. Re:Really? by c0lo · · Score: 1

    Space hasn't ratified the Berne Convention.

    This is why he's safe while still on ISS.

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  58. imagine that by reovirus1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    An astronaut and a rock star! Hope he doesn't try to run for Prime Minister next, that would be a downgrade.

  59. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    ... then we need to shut down this thing NOW! We seriously have NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF TREASURE than to record a music video? This is rediculous. Let's turn off the lights, lock the door on the way out and save that money for something more important. Don't give me this "national pride" or "scientific discover" B.S. If that stuff needs to get done, then F'ing do it and don't waste time singing in space. This is probably the most collossal waste of resources imaginable. How many resources were needed to scrub the air necessary for the singing? When you are in space, that stuff matters, A LOT! The first take wasn't the last take, that I know. Don't give me the "get kids into science" schtick either. Kids who are swayed by silly things like this, statistically don't end up any good at the math needed for real science anyway. I teach our "future engineers" in a top state university. Most can't even solve a triangle, let alone deal with any higher math. If you are swayed by this commercial, you don't have the chops to stick with an engineering career.

    1) People need downtime.
    2) They actually set a record for science utilization http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2013/05/12/hadfield-iss-returns-earth.html

  60. Kinda teary-eyed... by Kaitiff · · Score: 1

    I'm not a sappy emotional kind of guy, usually far from it, but that had me tearing up. He may not have the raw vocal talent that Bowie has, but he nailed it in every other respect. That's always been one of my favorite songs anyways, now even more so. I'm gonna have to see if I can get a copy somewhere.

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  61. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by digitig · · Score: 1

    Dang. Triangles are a problem?

    They certainly turned out to be for the BBC.

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  62. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, I also teach "future engineers" in a university.

    1) yeah, it's fricking expensive. But I can't think of a better testbed for engineering than rocketry and a space station. Harsh environment, demanding constraints, human safety factors, etc. It's the pinnacle of engineering. It's fair to question whether it is worth the money, but pushing the envelope this way is worthwhile to many people.

    2) there's more to engineering and science than math. Of course they need that. It must be there and slackers need not apply. But if students (and humanity) don't have a motivation for doing things, don't create fun diversions from time-to-time, and don't allow themselves a bit of entertainment during their off-time, then they're going to have a pretty narrow and sad life. Even engineers need things other than engineering, and only a fool of an engineer would expect humans to have a 100% duty cycle.

    3) if that's really your attitude, then I question your teaching aptitude.

  63. Re:Really? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Eventually, we will have to leave this marble if we, as a species, plan to outlive the predictable expiry date of our planet. Of course, the planned death occurs not for a few million years, but even if you're one of those that, not unlike politicians, think in service terms rather than generations, since we're treating this planet like we have another spare one for the time when (not if) this one becomes inhabitable, I'd say that yes, we should try to find out how and where to settle off planet.

    I'd guess we have about a century left.

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  64. Tarm? by dwater · · Score: 1

    Very good and all, but who is Major Tarm?

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  65. Brilliant by Skiron · · Score: 2

    Unlike most people posting tripe in here, I was 10 years old when Bowie released this - it was fantastic (and I also think the first music video?).

    I am now 53, and this version is brilliant (and apt) - would I as a ten year old expect this to happen 43 years later? No way.

    Brilliant stuff.

  66. Enough with the 'pornstache' criticisms by Wormsign · · Score: 1

    Mustaches existed long before porn and Freddy Mercury. Open your minds.

  67. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm anarcho-libertarian, and even I think that's silly. If you want to argue that manned space missions are wasteful then fair enough, but in the meantime what's the guy supposed to do, never do anything recreational the whole time he's aboard? Jeez.

  68. Am I hearing things by nayrbn · · Score: 1

    Or does it sound like they autotuned his voice?

  69. This guy is by Lucas123 · · Score: 1

    the coolest astronaut ever. (And one heck of a good singer too).

  70. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's an empty radiation-blasted hell.

    Piss off, Eomer, and practice your Dr. McCoy impression someplace else!

  71. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We seriously have NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF TREASURE than to record a music video?

    With the exception of a five dollar bill, I'm pretty sure all of that money is still on Earth. Sure, we threw some raw materials together and launched them into orbit, and burned up some fuel to get there, but all of the money itself is still here.

  72. Hell no we won't go! by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    Actually you can read about it on Wiki, but NASA tried this. Working them around the clock to try and maximize their time.

    They more less revolted. The commander at the time basically just stopped answering the radio. Not much you can do about a strike in space! After that strict work protocols were put in space to allow for more downtime.

    1. Re:Hell no we won't go! by Trogre · · Score: 1

      Which Wiki? Got a link?

      Thanks.

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  73. Wonder by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    I wonder about "personal" items that were allowed up the gravity well... Do they bring them home, or leave them up there for the next batch of people to use like communal objects. Things like his big camera (I assume he would take his memory home), and guitar... I mean for what it costs to push them up, you would think they would leave everything behind. Although at the same time would they need to do spring cleaning to get rid of all the junk that might pile up if that was the case...

    Inquiring minds want to know!

    1. Re:Wonder by fgodfrey · · Score: 1

      Astronauts are allowed a small (in both weight and size) amount of personal items, which have to be approved for travel (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts121/launch/qa-hahn.html). They usually leave them there when they come back down (I've heard a few astronauts talk about it). They have also shipped up larger items (presumably including the guitar) using spare space on various spacecraft (like the Shuttle or the Dragon test mission). If you go read the Wikipedia article on Skylab, you'll see that one of the crew's basically mutinied over lack of rest/personal time. Since then, NASA has built rest and down time into the schedules for astronauts on space stations. Presumably the Russians do the same. On ISS, they've sent up leisure items so people don't go nuts. I have seen reference to an every growing DVD library on the ISS as well.

      As for the camera/memory cards... That was probably on the ISS as part of the standard gear. Part of the mission is to take pictures of stuff on Earth. Since they now have an Internet connection, presumably they'll transfer the pictures and leave the memory cards up there until they stop working, when they'll be sent to an inglorious (and fiery) end on a Progress ship.

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  74. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They should multitask - use them to test exciting new stimulants by keeping them awake, and get more work out of the deal!

  75. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by braindrainbahrain · · Score: 1

    It is fitting that you posted as an anonymous COWARD! Otherwise we might want to take a look at how much of your time is wasted. Given how much you are paid to teach future engineers and you can't get them to solve a triangle in 2 minutes, i suspect you are a poor excuse for a teacher at a state university. Since the state's residents taxes are paying your salary, i suggest they take a close look at how many weekends, holidays, and other downtime that you get paid for.

  76. But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...he's a Colonel, not a Major, and his name is Chris, not Tom.

  77. Re:Really? by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 1

    Space is the future. Anyone with an actual personality is welcome up there.

    And even if it fails for humanity, we can use the space for lawyers.

  78. Re:Really? by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

    Space hasn't ratified the Berne Convention.

    That's because it's pre-empted by the Bene Gesserit Convention: The Space Must Flow
    (otherwise, how can the spice?)

    These are both special cases of the Tao of the Cybernetician: Everything Flows

    It's a Universal Truth even at a quantum level: Information that does not flow is useless.
    Ergo: Copyrights are retarding and wrong.

  79. Coolest dude in the history of the planet? by Captain_Chaos · · Score: 1

    I don't think you can top this. Or at least that anyone will for the foreseeable future... ;-)

  80. Space Oddity on ISS is all but odd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well prepared on earth, very well performed in space and as far as I can judge from the audio: Chris Hadfield is a pretty good singer as well !

    Tnx, nice surpice!

  81. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Space is the past, the Space Age is as dead as bell bottom pants and the three martini lunch.

    Aw, crap! I just bought another 3 pairs. Guess I'll just go drown my sorrows ...

  82. When is Hadfield's disciplinary hearing? by markdowling · · Score: 2

    Obviously nobody sent him the memo where Canadian scientists and public servants have to get approval for talking to the media or even giving evidence to members of Parliament. All these pictures and videos - oh boy is he ever going to get it when he gets back to CSA HQ.

  83. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A most excellent and well-considered reply! Well done, AC! Your students, unlike OP's, are very obviously lucky to have you!

    There's one more point: if scientists and engineers wall themselves off from the rest of humanity, there will be little future support for scientific and engineering endeavors. Chris Hadfield has blown the wall wide open.

    -- a Ph.D. & P.Eng.

  84. Re:If this is what we currently have on our task l by yurtinus · · Score: 1

    Woah. Bravo, AC. Everybody's rebutting that troll's diatribe, but you nailed it in one sentence.

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  85. Re: Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Four is the new three.

  86. song timing is Everything! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SobQQWTmfbA

  87. Bunch o info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They don't use a commercial satellite, they use TDRSS (Tracking Data Relay Satellite System), which are in geo. There's three places where TDRS satellites are TDRS E (over Atlantic) and TDRS W (over Pacific) relay to White Sands near Las Cruces NM. The data goes from there through JSC to Marshall Spaceflight Center where the Ops center is, and then out to the various places it needs to go. There's another set of satellites on the other side of the earth that downlink through Guam, but the "pipe" from there is pretty thin.

    A "pass" for a given TDRS is about 30-40 minutes long (out of a 90-100 minute orbit), and they can do a fairly quick handoff from TDRS W to TDRS E, but you DO have to repoint the Ku-band high gain antenna on ISS, so there's a typical gap of a few minutes while it slews from pointing behind (to W) to ahead (to E).

    WHy not track from the ground? Coverage. You'd need a lot of stations because ISS is in a low, low orbit. The maximum diameter of the footprint is only about 1500 miles. Imagine tiling the earth with enough stations to cover all the places ISS might be (50+ degree inclination means you'd need to essentially blanket the earth from 40N to 40S, including some mid ocean ships, etc. ) Those ground stations would also need to have pretty fast moving antennas: a typical overhead pass of ISS (see http://www.heavens-above.com/) lasts only about 9-10 minutes so you're looking at slew rates of 20 degrees/minute, which is quite fast for a big dish.

    Doppler is no big deal.. For S-band (2 GHz) it's about 40kHz max, and easily predicted and tracked. For Ku band at 13 and 15 GHz, it's about 300 kHz.

    Predicts for pointing are actually kind of difficult. ISS, unlike most LEO satellites, varies its height a lot.. it has a lot of drag, and they move it around which changes the drag. You need to know pretty much in real time where it is, rather than relying on orbital elements from yesterday. If your antenna has a beam width of 1 degree, you need to know the position within a few tens of km or, another way, the time when it will be somewhere within a few seconds. And don't forget, until you have that position and velocity, you can't point your antenna accurately enough to get the information from ISS itself. Pointing from GEO is a LOT easier, because the angular rate is much lower.

  88. Re:Really? by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

    Ergo: Copyrights are retarding and wrong.

    Ban copyright tomorrow, and I'll go looking for an office job. I'm not going to dedicate a year to perfecting the (hopefully) ground-breaking piece of software I've been fiddling with for years if I can't sell it....

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  89. Re:Really? by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

    (To clarify: yes, I'll keep working on it, but I've made virtually no progress trying to do it in my spare time, and I need to sit down and dedicate myself to it for a solid chunk of time in order to really work my way through the biggest conceptual problems. Going full-time dev is a massive gamble, and it relies on the possibility of a big payoff at the end of it.)

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  90. Re:Really? by gagol · · Score: 1

    Come on, this is about a guy plying a song on a guitar. This is nothing more than gossip. Where is the science?

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