I wish I hadn't used all my mod points on downvoting idiotic trolls. That was pretty damn funny. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
Hey, it's so cool that you can look in the Slashborg Thesaurus under "Gnutella" and find "scalability problems". That way you don't actually even have to use the program to complain about it!
Remember, if 100 Anonymous Cowards all say something, it MUST be true! -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
I believe it's been proven that you will never get the same digit more than 42 times in a row in Pi. (42... yay.) So that makes any combination involving a digit 43 times in a row impossible to show up in Pi. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
Hey, maybe you should get together with Bill Gates on that factoring-prime-numbers project. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
If the user never sees a license, he has no right to copy the source code. The GPL gives the user that right. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
Why should they have to? The goal is to simulate life, unlike AI which is meant to simulate human thought.
A dog would not pass the Turing Test. Yet, it is alive and conscious. There goes your definition. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
AI life is much more complicated than just striving and competing processes.
I haven't heard of "AI life", but it would seem you're talking about AI. Meanwhile, this article is about ALife, which is, in fact, "striving and competing processes".
I agree that AI is a buzzword - so much of a buzzword that people hear it even when nobody says it. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
But the question relating Conway's Game of Life to ALife in general is: Given an infinite (or at least sufficiently large) random field of cells, will Life develop self-organization?
You could use a true random number generator to generate the original field. All the randomness comes from the beginning. Certainly what happens afterward is deterministic, but it's chaotic.
Cells in Conway's Game of Life would probably never develop intelligence, but that's not necessary. ALife is not the same as AI. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
That's a bizarre definition. Are you saying that a hamster isn't alive unless it could learn to speak French? How about plants - do they "think" enough to fit your definition? Bacteria? Protists?
I think you've gotten Artificial Intelligence and Artificial Life confused. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
That system was wholly unimpressive. It was distinguishing among four words, and probably based its results on the length of the sound of the words more than anything else. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
I like Linux but must admit I've had similar experiences. When X locks up the system, how is it any better than the kernel crashing? You still can't use the system anymore until you reboot, provided it's a serious enough X crash. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
That's a print comic which happens to be published on the Web after a two-week delay. I hardly think that counts. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
Of course ordinary people want something prettier than apt-get, but there's no reason his installer couldn't be based on apt or Red Carpet or something of the sort. However, whenever someone suggests something of the sort, he considers it a flame and dismisses it.
Okay, sorry, I should have said "something to offer Free Software". That's probably not even inclusive enough. Whatever.
The comments he seems the most fed up about are the ones that point out that he should base his installer on some existing installation system, instead of reinventing the wheel. His response is that he has spent "far too much time on this to start over". Translation: "No, this is MY installer! MINE MINE MINE!" -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
I think by now it's time for Slashdot to post one of its famous updates to the article.
UPDATE: It turns out that Nick Betcher is an insecure egotist with nothing to offer the Linux community, trying to pass off a web page with crappy screenshots as a "project".
If you don't believe me, read one of the threads where Nick himself posted. Incidentally, one of them was modded down to -1 (does it signify something when the originator of the article is moderated "offtopic" and "troll"?), so you'll kinda have to hunt for it. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
I can't help but laugh at seeing the person who is the focus of the article being moderated down as "offtopic".
Anyway, you're not going to gain much popularity by saying, "IF YOU DONT LIKE MY IDEA OR PROGRAM ITSELF GO AWAY!" You go on to say you only want constructive criticism, but it would appear that criticism, constructive or not, is the one thing you don't want. At first I thought you seriously had something to offer Linux with this project, but now I see you just want people to worship you over this installer. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
I wish I had some mod points left, because these are some things that would be really nice to have in a package-installing system.
And I agree that whoever came up with that kpackage error message should be dragged out into the street and beaten by someone yelling "ERROR MESSAGES MUST NOT SUCK!!!!!" -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
Okay. So the people who want an easier way to install KDE should do it by installing FreeBSD with its user-unfriendly installer? Doesn't that defeat the purpose just a little bit? -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
Are you the guy doing this KDE installer project? I think any successful project would have to appear a bit more professional than this.
First of all, there's a really useful word called "you're". Try using it sometime instead of "your". Only when appropriate, of course. Errors like that, especially in the screenshots, make your project look really unprofessional.
The Debian references did come up rather often in these comments, but what you said comes off like a flame against Debian. The remark that it "isn't as cool" is especially glaring. If you didn't mean to sound angry, why did you use phrases like "little pet apt"?
"If [you're] not a newbie, or you dont like this idea, please dont talk about it"? So you only want to hear from people who like your project exactly the way it is? Constructive criticism is essential if your project is going to succeed. If you tune out all criticism you're probably going to release something which nobody likes.
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I wish I hadn't used all my mod points on downvoting idiotic trolls. That was pretty damn funny.
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Hey, it's so cool that you can look in the Slashborg Thesaurus under "Gnutella" and find "scalability problems". That way you don't actually even have to use the program to complain about it!
Remember, if 100 Anonymous Cowards all say something, it MUST be true!
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That would be rather redundant, seeing as "Kong" means "ape". Monkey Ape. Right.
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Hi, your attitude that you are smarter than everyone on Slashdot is getting rather annoying.
Have a nice day.
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I believe it's been proven that you will never get the same digit more than 42 times in a row in Pi. (42... yay.) So that makes any combination involving a digit 43 times in a row impossible to show up in Pi.
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People pay money to advertise in the mail.
Spammers get to advertise at other people's expense.
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Hey, maybe you should get together with Bill Gates on that factoring-prime-numbers project.
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If it's so astoundingly easy, why did nobody do it first? Why didn't YOU do it?
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If the user never sees a license, he has no right to copy the source code. The GPL gives the user that right.
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Why should they have to? The goal is to simulate life, unlike AI which is meant to simulate human thought.
A dog would not pass the Turing Test. Yet, it is alive and conscious. There goes your definition.
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I haven't heard of "AI life", but it would seem you're talking about AI. Meanwhile, this article is about ALife, which is, in fact, "striving and competing processes".
I agree that AI is a buzzword - so much of a buzzword that people hear it even when nobody says it.
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But the question relating Conway's Game of Life to ALife in general is: Given an infinite (or at least sufficiently large) random field of cells, will Life develop self-organization?
You could use a true random number generator to generate the original field. All the randomness comes from the beginning. Certainly what happens afterward is deterministic, but it's chaotic.
Cells in Conway's Game of Life would probably never develop intelligence, but that's not necessary. ALife is not the same as AI.
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That's a bizarre definition. Are you saying that a hamster isn't alive unless it could learn to speak French? How about plants - do they "think" enough to fit your definition? Bacteria? Protists?
I think you've gotten Artificial Intelligence and Artificial Life confused.
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Actually, RTFA has been used for quite a long time.
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That system was wholly unimpressive. It was distinguishing among four words, and probably based its results on the length of the sound of the words more than anything else.
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I like Linux but must admit I've had similar experiences. When X locks up the system, how is it any better than the kernel crashing? You still can't use the system anymore until you reboot, provided it's a serious enough X crash.
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I think you may want to look at the triple negative in your sig there.
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That's a print comic which happens to be published on the Web after a two-week delay. I hardly think that counts.
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Of course ordinary people want something prettier than apt-get, but there's no reason his installer couldn't be based on apt or Red Carpet or something of the sort. However, whenever someone suggests something of the sort, he considers it a flame and dismisses it.
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Okay, sorry, I should have said "something to offer Free Software". That's probably not even inclusive enough. Whatever.
The comments he seems the most fed up about are the ones that point out that he should base his installer on some existing installation system, instead of reinventing the wheel. His response is that he has spent "far too much time on this to start over". Translation: "No, this is MY installer! MINE MINE MINE!"
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UPDATE: It turns out that Nick Betcher is an insecure egotist with nothing to offer the Linux community, trying to pass off a web page with crappy screenshots as a "project".
If you don't believe me, read one of the threads where Nick himself posted. Incidentally, one of them was modded down to -1 (does it signify something when the originator of the article is moderated "offtopic" and "troll"?), so you'll kinda have to hunt for it.
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Anyway, you're not going to gain much popularity by saying, "IF YOU DONT LIKE MY IDEA OR PROGRAM ITSELF GO AWAY!" You go on to say you only want constructive criticism, but it would appear that criticism, constructive or not, is the one thing you don't want. At first I thought you seriously had something to offer Linux with this project, but now I see you just want people to worship you over this installer.
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I wish I had some mod points left, because these are some things that would be really nice to have in a package-installing system.
And I agree that whoever came up with that kpackage error message should be dragged out into the street and beaten by someone yelling "ERROR MESSAGES MUST NOT SUCK!!!!!"
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Okay. So the people who want an easier way to install KDE should do it by installing FreeBSD with its user-unfriendly installer? Doesn't that defeat the purpose just a little bit?
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Are you the guy doing this KDE installer project? I think any successful project would have to appear a bit more professional than this.
First of all, there's a really useful word called "you're". Try using it sometime instead of "your". Only when appropriate, of course. Errors like that, especially in the screenshots, make your project look really unprofessional.
The Debian references did come up rather often in these comments, but what you said comes off like a flame against Debian. The remark that it "isn't as cool" is especially glaring. If you didn't mean to sound angry, why did you use phrases like "little pet apt"?
"If [you're] not a newbie, or you dont like this idea, please dont talk about it"? So you only want to hear from people who like your project exactly the way it is? Constructive criticism is essential if your project is going to succeed. If you tune out all criticism you're probably going to release something which nobody likes.
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