Netscape 6 is a piece of crap. But that doesn't mean that Mozilla is.
Try a Mozilla nightly build. Seriously. It's not as unreliable as it sounds. I have only found a few nightlies recently that I wouldn't want to use, and in each case the next night's fixed the problems. Or if you're worried about the memory footprint, use Galeon. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
LMNOP is the generic meaningless acronym. You use it in a list of acronyms like that to make it sound like you're singing the Alphabet Song. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
Well, there's one shared character - Y.T. ends up as the old lady in the wheelchair, Mrs. Matheson. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
Even if the software could be improved to the point where it can recognize the shapes involved in a porn image and not the colors, why would you WANT the first random porn image that came through? The odds are slim that it would be APPEALING porn. What if it was goatse.cx? Or George W. Bush and his wife _naked_? -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
Okay... how do you ssh to something that isn't a shell?
The telnet protocol is used for much more than login shells. Maybe that's all you've ever used it for. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
Because they left in the moronic bug where you have to run it as root the first time. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
So you prefer the alternative, which is that the Republicans win based on a result that everyone knows is wrong?
The difference between Bush's and Gore's votes was within the margin of error. There's no way to have a runoff, so the sensible choice is to reduce the margin of error until you know who's won.
Observe that more Gore votes keep coming up - this indicates that Gore's votes were not counted fairly the first time. So your argument reduces to "Come on, the Republicans rigged that election fair and square!" -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
There's one thing that would make that voting system a good idea - a way to have the machine print a FAKE receipt. That way you couldn't be coerced into voting by someone who demands that you show them the receipt, or someone who offers you money in exchange for your receipt for their favorite candidate, etc. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
Let me just point out something that everyone seems to be missing. New York uses mechanical voting machines. There is no hard copy of the vote, but the voting process works just fine, and the concept of "recount" doesn't apply.
What's wrong with at least using this in other states? -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
I hope they're reading this, because once they get an idea for a title, it seems they do everything possible to make it a song.
I mean, where else would titles like "She Thinks She's Edith Head", "Siftin'", and "Someone Keeps Moving My Chair" come from? -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
You're just being absurd. He wasn't talking about voting online or even connecting the booths to the Internet (which would be an astoundingly stupid idea). He was talking about computerized voting booths, which would allow you to clearly see who you're voting for. Those would be much MORE difficult to "crack" than sabotaging a hole-punched ballot counter.
Believe it or not, it is possible for something to be electronic without being a computer or being networked. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
Electoral reform is all well and good, but Katz is clueless about it. He recommends the dumbest voting system as a solution - the Borda Count. The Borda Count is worse than a simple majority, because it doesn't simply allow strategic voting, it outright encourages it. Even Palm Beach voters could figure out that their votes would be worth more if they put one Republicrat at the top and the other at the bottom.
Much better would be Instant Runoff Voting, which still can be manipulated by strategic voting, but not nearly as much as the Borda Count or a simple majority. The best solution would theoretically be Condorcet voting, but remember that this is America. Not so many Americans would be able to grasp the concept of how a Condorcet vote is tallied. Then again, CNN could make a killing making pretty illustrations of the results.
The other system Katz recommends is approval voting, which is simply dumbed-down IRV. And someone who doesn't grasp the concept of ranking candidates in order of preference is probably voting for the candidate whose hair they like best. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
It's this kind of FUD that's bad for the Mozilla project and the promise of a really good browser for Linux. You haven't tried anything since M16, have you? -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
Ignore me. Also ignore the other times I've said that. I thought I saw a clever pattern in e and I turned out to be totally wrong.
I've asked for a (-1, Misinformative) moderation before, and now I wish it would be used on me. Thank you. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
Yep. I was blatantly wrong. It was wishful thinking on my part after seeing the 10.10110111 part.
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Damn, I wish it had been true. -- Obfuscated e-mail addresses won't stop sadistic 12-year-old ACs.
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Try a Mozilla nightly build. Seriously. It's not as unreliable as it sounds. I have only found a few nightlies recently that I wouldn't want to use, and in each case the next night's fixed the problems. Or if you're worried about the memory footprint, use Galeon.
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Congratulations, you just made the exact same analogy in a different order.
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LMNOP is the generic meaningless acronym. You use it in a list of acronyms like that to make it sound like you're singing the Alphabet Song.
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Actually, the only way I can see this technology catching on is the same way as others have - if the phone sex industry adopts it.
Of course, as seen from your comment, they'd have to set higher standards.
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2 people actually found this funny. That's sad.
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I started seeing it on Usenet a couple of years ago.
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Translation: "Yes, I am completely unaware of the possibility of telnetting to something besides a shell."
Ever used a MUD?
"Try again next time". I bow to your smartassness.
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Informative?! Dear God, did the idiot moderator even click the link?
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Well, there's one shared character - Y.T. ends up as the old lady in the wheelchair, Mrs. Matheson.
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Even if the software could be improved to the point where it can recognize the shapes involved in a porn image and not the colors, why would you WANT the first random porn image that came through? The odds are slim that it would be APPEALING porn. What if it was goatse.cx? Or George W. Bush and his wife _naked_?
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Okay... how do you ssh to something that isn't a shell?
The telnet protocol is used for much more than login shells. Maybe that's all you've ever used it for.
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Because they left in the moronic bug where you have to run it as root the first time.
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Right, that's why we're talking about Mozilla 0.9 and not Netscape 6.0.
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Uh... there IS source to Mozilla. Where have you been?
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So you prefer the alternative, which is that the Republicans win based on a result that everyone knows is wrong?
The difference between Bush's and Gore's votes was within the margin of error. There's no way to have a runoff, so the sensible choice is to reduce the margin of error until you know who's won.
Observe that more Gore votes keep coming up - this indicates that Gore's votes were not counted fairly the first time. So your argument reduces to "Come on, the Republicans rigged that election fair and square!"
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There's one thing that would make that voting system a good idea - a way to have the machine print a FAKE receipt. That way you couldn't be coerced into voting by someone who demands that you show them the receipt, or someone who offers you money in exchange for your receipt for their favorite candidate, etc.
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Let me just point out something that everyone seems to be missing. New York uses mechanical voting machines. There is no hard copy of the vote, but the voting process works just fine, and the concept of "recount" doesn't apply.
What's wrong with at least using this in other states?
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I hope they're reading this, because once they get an idea for a title, it seems they do everything possible to make it a song.
I mean, where else would titles like "She Thinks She's Edith Head", "Siftin'", and "Someone Keeps Moving My Chair" come from?
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You're just being absurd. He wasn't talking about voting online or even connecting the booths to the Internet (which would be an astoundingly stupid idea). He was talking about computerized voting booths, which would allow you to clearly see who you're voting for. Those would be much MORE difficult to "crack" than sabotaging a hole-punched ballot counter.
Believe it or not, it is possible for something to be electronic without being a computer or being networked.
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Much better would be Instant Runoff Voting, which still can be manipulated by strategic voting, but not nearly as much as the Borda Count or a simple majority. The best solution would theoretically be Condorcet voting, but remember that this is America. Not so many Americans would be able to grasp the concept of how a Condorcet vote is tallied. Then again, CNN could make a killing making pretty illustrations of the results.
The other system Katz recommends is approval voting, which is simply dumbed-down IRV. And someone who doesn't grasp the concept of ranking candidates in order of preference is probably voting for the candidate whose hair they like best.
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It's this kind of FUD that's bad for the Mozilla project and the promise of a really good browser for Linux. You haven't tried anything since M16, have you?
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Whoa! 1770 people got to punch Buchanan? I want to punch him too!
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Ignore me. Also ignore the other times I've said that. I thought I saw a clever pattern in e and I turned out to be totally wrong.
I've asked for a (-1, Misinformative) moderation before, and now I wish it would be used on me. Thank you.
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Holy shit! You mean you can do something USEFUL with PowerPoint?
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Yep. I was blatantly wrong. It was wishful thinking on my part after seeing the 10.10110111 part.
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Damn, I wish it had been true.
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