You totally missed my point. Changing all client OS licenses is labor intensive and costly. If you had a good office suite that has near perfect ms office file compatibility, and you can allow users to access it via an easy install xwindows client, that is a viable method of saving a chunk of change.
1. Any shop with over 5 identical machines should have Ghost or Drive image. You install the OS, apps, etc. Make an image via a network boot disk. Put boot disks in machines, boot to them, blow image on. Change SID, rename machine, reboot. Add to domain. Done. All the big cloning software packages support multicast as well. MS also provides some tools
2. As the tech lead here, I am responsible for licensing. Yeah, its not fun. But most enterprise software isn't fun either. Recently I spent some time trying to figure out what getting Solaris 7 would cost us if we acquired a machine that could run it - remember, Solaris 8 is free and downloadable - 7 isn't.
3. Terminal services are viable for NT/2k. You can run apps centrally. It requires serious horsepower at the server side, but people are doing it. That is another way people do app installs and licensing - if you have 50 offices, and 50 comptrollers around the country, make the client binary accessible via terminal services. Centralize the server, and just install terminal services client for those 50 people. Upgrades are a non issue after that.
4. Application installs - login scripts, as well as all kinds of software packages. MS SMS is a serious package you can do inventory, software pushes/distribution, etc with.
Office and OS licensing could be MS's downfall. Basically, you need a quick to install xclient that would allow complete office functionality through it. Its gettting to the point where OS + office + client access licenses cost as much as the client pc. If you can offer a (not really, centralized computing aint new) new paradigm that allows the existing machines to sit as they are, without cutover costs, you have a winner. I don't think network computers will really take off because the price differential between them and real pc's keeps getting worse.
I am pretty certain that the MS SQL 64 project is running right along next to the XP-64 project.
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As far as ResTek themselves, they wouldn't hire me into a paid position (despite my previous experience as a lab consultant at a previous university). I later discovered they had a policy of avoiding people with experience, and preferred people-skills. They figured they can train them later and be friendly for now. This is what happens when non-techie managers are in charge.
Sounds about right for collegiate hiring decisions. I interviewed once with the internal IT staff of American U, never got a call back, but I realized that after 3 years, I'd be making 9.75 and have the honor of still working in a lab. This was after two summers of making 12 an hour. So, throughout my academic career, I did paid internships and part time gigs. Earned more, and saw more. Only thing I missed out is seeing a huge campus lan run, I worked in a lot of small offices in DC.
You clearly are an amateur at criticizing MS licensing tactics. If you were an experienced MS licensing guy (read=VICTIM) like me, you would criticize things like MSDN. Having attempted to activate 45 MSDN Universal licenses over the past month, I have come to the conclusion that MS is trying to become a services company partially by attempting to completely alienate their most hardcore developers.
Who did you expect to have control of broadband access other than corporations? Billy Joe and Jim Bob were gonna string out fiber-coaxial for the entire trailer park? Is the local bridge club going to decide who makes the best DSLAMs?
That isn't terribly surprising, a lot of the major vendor's systems cool front to back. HP's do, it looks like the Compaq I just bought (I love these fire sales) does as well. I take it your cabinets have glass front doors? Someone has to make a grill front, sectional locking cab for hosting companies.
Actually, for 2k, they could have turned off 8.3 filename creation via a registry entry. On NTFS with x0,000's of thousands of files, the 8.3 name creation can be a drag. On a email server, you should be able to make the registry change, that breaks dos compatibility. SInce one of the tests specifically did create 10k files in one dir, the tweak might help
ostiguy
Nice troll. Read www.openbsd.org/goals , specifically the 2nd bullet point, which lays out the project's goals on software freedom. Because OpenBSD seeks to keep firewalling in the default system, they have to migrate away from IPF.
Free and Net are different as the do not ship with ipf in the kernel and base install. IPF exists in packages on those two platforms. IPFW is probably the heir apparent. Although openipf.org has been registered, it appears all versions of IPF are affected by the license "clarification", so not direct parallel to OpenSSH can be drawn
Why would you be surprised that Apple is having trouble releasing security information? For years their advocates have touted the unhackability of the Mac OS platform. Its easy to listen to your own and your advocate's PR.
People have been yelling at MS about security for years, and their improvment has come at a snail's pace. Hotfixes are still numbered with a byzantine numbering system (applying them in numerical order can potentially cancel them out, so its painfully humorous when you see some leet NT admin touting his batch script that installs them in numerical order) and there are rarely rollup hotfixes (I want everything post spX, period).
I am as much worried about the voices of conservative and insane jews over here - who benefit from being over 4000 miles away and are often in a position to financially support conservative groups "over there"
Precisely how does one carefully document MS liceses? They slap the cd key on the sides of boxes these days. They have forces everyone to buy a MS OS with the purchases of the box, and now are trying to use license legalese to force everyone to then buy an additional copy via trickery and OEM edition limitations.
x86 scales to 8 fine, IIS 5.0 (I know, there is no reason to have an 8 way web server) and Exchange 2k scale that high fine. Unisys did 8000 E2k users per partition a 4 way partitioned 32 cpu machine in an active-active cluster.
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You totally missed my point. Changing all client OS licenses is labor intensive and costly. If you had a good office suite that has near perfect ms office file compatibility, and you can allow users to access it via an easy install xwindows client, that is a viable method of saving a chunk of change.
ostiguy
1. Any shop with over 5 identical machines should have Ghost or Drive image. You install the OS, apps, etc. Make an image via a network boot disk. Put boot disks in machines, boot to them, blow image on. Change SID, rename machine, reboot. Add to domain. Done. All the big cloning software packages support multicast as well. MS also provides some tools
2. As the tech lead here, I am responsible for licensing. Yeah, its not fun. But most enterprise software isn't fun either. Recently I spent some time trying to figure out what getting Solaris 7 would cost us if we acquired a machine that could run it - remember, Solaris 8 is free and downloadable - 7 isn't.
3. Terminal services are viable for NT/2k. You can run apps centrally. It requires serious horsepower at the server side, but people are doing it. That is another way people do app installs and licensing - if you have 50 offices, and 50 comptrollers around the country, make the client binary accessible via terminal services. Centralize the server, and just install terminal services client for those 50 people. Upgrades are a non issue after that.
4. Application installs - login scripts, as well as all kinds of software packages. MS SMS is a serious package you can do inventory, software pushes/distribution, etc with.
Office and OS licensing could be MS's downfall. Basically, you need a quick to install xclient that would allow complete office functionality through it. Its gettting to the point where OS + office + client access licenses cost as much as the client pc. If you can offer a (not really, centralized computing aint new) new paradigm that allows the existing machines to sit as they are, without cutover costs, you have a winner. I don't think network computers will really take off because the price differential between them and real pc's keeps getting worse.
ostiguy
I am pretty certain that the MS SQL 64 project is running right along next to the XP-64 project.
ostiguy
Sounds about right for collegiate hiring decisions. I interviewed once with the internal IT staff of American U, never got a call back, but I realized that after 3 years, I'd be making 9.75 and have the honor of still working in a lab. This was after two summers of making 12 an hour. So, throughout my academic career, I did paid internships and part time gigs. Earned more, and saw more. Only thing I missed out is seeing a huge campus lan run, I worked in a lot of small offices in DC.
ostiguy
I believe the Blackberry RIM devices have a 386 in them. I can't say for sure if they are intel.
ostiguy
An exchange CAL = the right to use Outlook.
You clearly are an amateur at criticizing MS licensing tactics. If you were an experienced MS licensing guy (read=VICTIM) like me, you would criticize things like MSDN. Having attempted to activate 45 MSDN Universal licenses over the past month, I have come to the conclusion that MS is trying to become a services company partially by attempting to completely alienate their most hardcore developers.
ostiguy
Who did you expect to have control of broadband access other than corporations? Billy Joe and Jim Bob were gonna string out fiber-coaxial for the entire trailer park? Is the local bridge club going to decide who makes the best DSLAMs?
ostiguy
Exactly. Who are we to question google?
Re:IBM
That isn't terribly surprising, a lot of the major vendor's systems cool front to back. HP's do, it looks like the Compaq I just bought (I love these fire sales) does as well. I take it your cabinets have glass front doors? Someone has to make a grill front, sectional locking cab for hosting companies.
ostiguy
Also, if accounts get hacked, and your biometric becomes known, do you have have a new thumb grafted on to get a new password?
ostiguy
http://ebituaries.whirlycott.com/ ostiguy
Actually, for 2k, they could have turned off 8.3 filename creation via a registry entry. On NTFS with x0,000's of thousands of files, the 8.3 name creation can be a drag. On a email server, you should be able to make the registry change, that breaks dos compatibility. SInce one of the tests specifically did create 10k files in one dir, the tweak might help ostiguy
Nice troll. Read www.openbsd.org/goals , specifically the 2nd bullet point, which lays out the project's goals on software freedom. Because OpenBSD seeks to keep firewalling in the default system, they have to migrate away from IPF.
ostiguy
Free and Net are different as the do not ship with ipf in the kernel and base install. IPF exists in packages on those two platforms. IPFW is probably the heir apparent. Although openipf.org has been registered, it appears all versions of IPF are affected by the license "clarification", so not direct parallel to OpenSSH can be drawn
ostiguy
Why would you be surprised that Apple is having trouble releasing security information? For years their advocates have touted the unhackability of the Mac OS platform. Its easy to listen to your own and your advocate's PR.
People have been yelling at MS about security for years, and their improvment has come at a snail's pace. Hotfixes are still numbered with a byzantine numbering system (applying them in numerical order can potentially cancel them out, so its painfully humorous when you see some leet NT admin touting his batch script that installs them in numerical order) and there are rarely rollup hotfixes (I want everything post spX, period).
ostiguy
I am as much worried about the voices of conservative and insane jews over here - who benefit from being over 4000 miles away and are often in a position to financially support conservative groups "over there"
Intel crippled the P2 core (since carried on to the P3) to allow only 2 way SMP. You need Xeons to go above 2 cpus.
ostiguy
How much money have you donated for AIDS drugs in Africa this year?
ostiguy won't hold his breath
that is a software telephone. This is a software PBX toolkit (I don't know enough about its stability to call it a full fledged software pbx).
ostiguy
I have no vested stake in VoIP, but it sounds to me as if your "massive problems" lie with your sound card setups and not with VoIP.
ostiguy
Precisely how does one carefully document MS liceses? They slap the cd key on the sides of boxes these days. They have forces everyone to buy a MS OS with the purchases of the box, and now are trying to use license legalese to force everyone to then buy an additional copy via trickery and OEM edition limitations.
And I run a big bill shop.
ostiguy
Joe consumer won't pay pc or near pc prices for something with far less functionality than a real pc.
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3com bailing on its device:
http://www.3com.com/news/releases/pr01/q301_ear
ostiguy
How many days until ThinkGeek has a t-shirt with the aforementioned Franklin quote?
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x86 scales to 8 fine, IIS 5.0 (I know, there is no reason to have an 8 way web server) and Exchange 2k scale that high fine. Unisys did 8000 E2k users per partition a 4 way partitioned 32 cpu machine in an active-active cluster.
ostiguy
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