Unless I can sit in the back seat and drink a beer, with zero liability if the thing crashes: then I won't trust autonomous functions at all.
To be fair, I'd be happy with just being able to sit back and let the car steer itself every time I drive 500 miles to visit my girlfriend's parents. Not a lot of traffic, but I have to stay awake so I can steer round a truck every few miles and a bend every hundred miles.
Of course a Tesla would take twice as long to get there, for only three times the price of our Civic. Pretty good deal, or something.
For Capitalists, yes. You're either a cog in the great economic machine, or chaff to be tossed aside.
No. In Marxism, you work or starve. Since you have no capital of your own, you are totally reliant on the State to feed you. In Capitalism, you work... or do whatever you feel like with whatever capital you've accumulated.
Don't forget electing governments that have kept interest rates artificially low for a decade or more, thereby making borrowing for capital investment very cheap.
And what happens when BurgerBot breaks down? Is it assumed that every McDonalds will have a hot-spare or do you just close the store because there aren't any people around to take over?
You call the 24-hour support line to get it fixed. No-one's going to keep a spare human staff around just in case the Bot breaks.
It's not as though I've never gone into a McBurger and been told 'we can't make Big Whoppers today because the Widget Maker is broken'.
The bigger issue is how do we get people to stop making MORE people that will not have a role in society to fill when they reach adulthood. We're automating the world for the benefit of mankind, but continue to breed like we're all still living off the family farm.
The developed world has a declining native population. In a few generations, we won't have to worry about robots taking our jobs, because there won't be any humans left.
Indeed. The people who are telling us that NOx kills people seem to mostly be the same ones who think CO2 is the GREATEST THREAT TO THE WORLD, EVAH!
In the real world, this is just the end result of letting politicians design cars instead of engineers. A bunch of lawyers and other low-lives say cars must meet safety standards, and must meet emission standards, and must meet mpg standards, and believe that magic will make it so.
Anything that can survive on Mars will do just fine on the Moon, and the Moon can be a nice test bed for Martian equipment.
Uh, no. For the reasons you list and more, there is very little that will work on both the Moon and Mars, unless it's massively over-engineered.
Moon has 1/6 gravity, Mars has 1/3. Moon has no atmosphere worth speaking of, Mars has some. Moon has huge temperature variations between light and shade, Mars has far less. Moon has highly abrasive dust, Martian dust is worn down by the storms.
Um, who is getting shot at in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere? Dumbass.
If I remember correctly, the annual death toll in Iraq and Afghanistan is roughly the same as... one day on Omaha Beach, or about six hours on the Eastern Front.
Again, read the court documents on the Toyota ECU in the 'unintended acceleration' cases. The people who examined the software showed that a single bit flip could cause the ECU to stop reading the throttle, because there was no ECC to correct it.
Why should "researchers" get to view the code? Here in Silicon Valley I cannot think of any instances where any outsiders routinely get access to a company's code.
Because people die when the programmers screw up.
Read the court documents on Toyota's ECU software sometime, to see what 'researchers' found when they were allowed to look at it.
Wouldn't it be nice to be able to make your own ecm with a arduino or raspberry pi? Last one I had to replace was $700.
That would be great. Until it broke after about two miles.
Cars are generally considered to one of the toughest environments for electronics. For example, there's so much electrical noise that you really, really, really don't want to be using RAM without error correction.
If that estimate were even remotely accurate, lorries and buses have already killed far more people than are alive today.
I presume this is like the often-quoted British study which showed that traffic pollution caused something like 20,000 deaths a year.
Except, when you actually read it, you found that the half of those deaths attributed to non-diesel vehicles was just a number pulled out of their butt because there was no actual valid data to base it on, and most of the 20,000 deaths were people who would were desperately sick and would have died soon anyway.
As you say, when you add up all these 'studies', you find that the entire human race must have died out centuries ago.
Either that or the protruding knobs on the radio and HVAC would pierce your skull.
Ah, yes. That was back in the days when the Jensen FF, the first road car with AWD and ABS, couldn't be sold in America because the US government didn't like the shape of the dashboard switches...
The market will resolve this, right? People will choose the safer cars?
Most drivers don't much care about safety, because they don't expect to be in a crash where it makes a difference... and most of those won't be. That doesn't mean they'll buy a car with a spke sticking out of the steering wheel, but cars became 'safe enough' long ago.
It would have been interesting to "retire" the shuttles as in orbit stations...but I suppose the whole issue of how to get the last person back to earth might have been an issue.
Sure, after you'd built a completely new power generation system to replace the fuel cells, and torn them apart and rebuilt them so they didn't leak air at many times the rate a space station does.
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Unless I can sit in the back seat and drink a beer, with zero liability if the thing crashes: then I won't trust autonomous functions at all.
To be fair, I'd be happy with just being able to sit back and let the car steer itself every time I drive 500 miles to visit my girlfriend's parents. Not a lot of traffic, but I have to stay awake so I can steer round a truck every few miles and a bend every hundred miles.
Of course a Tesla would take twice as long to get there, for only three times the price of our Civic. Pretty good deal, or something.
no SD, seriously braindead stupid, the ONE thing that has consistently pissed me off about my nexus 5 and 7.
Why? SD cards are pretty much useless in new versions of Android.
Indeed. We're heading for a world where all the workers own their means of production.
Yet the Marxists seem really rather annoyed about that.
For Capitalists, yes. You're either a cog in the great economic machine, or chaff to be tossed aside.
No. In Marxism, you work or starve. Since you have no capital of your own, you are totally reliant on the State to feed you. In Capitalism, you work... or do whatever you feel like with whatever capital you've accumulated.
Just a little tiny bit of a difference, there.
So, while my automated factory dismantles the solar system to build my trillion robot army, where you expect to get your resources from?
Only those with a massive lack of imagination (like, say, Marxists) believe there are plenty of resources.
Are economic ones the only roles that society has?
For Marxists, yes. You're either a cog in the great social machine, or chaff to be tossed aside.
There is plenty of food, water, and resources for everyone.
No, there's not.
We share or things get ugly asthey have over and over and over in the past.
Hint: things are going to get ugly.
Don't forget electing governments that have kept interest rates artificially low for a decade or more, thereby making borrowing for capital investment very cheap.
And what happens when BurgerBot breaks down? Is it assumed that every McDonalds will have a hot-spare or do you just close the store because there aren't any people around to take over?
You call the 24-hour support line to get it fixed. No-one's going to keep a spare human staff around just in case the Bot breaks.
It's not as though I've never gone into a McBurger and been told 'we can't make Big Whoppers today because the Widget Maker is broken'.
The bigger issue is how do we get people to stop making MORE people that will not have a role in society to fill when they reach adulthood. We're automating the world for the benefit of mankind, but continue to breed like we're all still living off the family farm.
The developed world has a declining native population. In a few generations, we won't have to worry about robots taking our jobs, because there won't be any humans left.
Look at Japan, for example.
I long for the day when I can download a fart app to my thermostat through the IoT.
If you are getting more miles per gallon, then you are emitting fewer emissions per mile.
Yes, that's the kind of simplistic nonsense politicians believe, when they pass incompatible regulations and expect engineers to work magic.
Hint: it's not true, since NOx emissions are only indirectly related to the amount of fuel you burn.
Indeed. The people who are telling us that NOx kills people seem to mostly be the same ones who think CO2 is the GREATEST THREAT TO THE WORLD, EVAH!
In the real world, this is just the end result of letting politicians design cars instead of engineers. A bunch of lawyers and other low-lives say cars must meet safety standards, and must meet emission standards, and must meet mpg standards, and believe that magic will make it so.
Anything that can survive on Mars will do just fine on the Moon, and the Moon can be a nice test bed for Martian equipment.
Uh, no. For the reasons you list and more, there is very little that will work on both the Moon and Mars, unless it's massively over-engineered.
Moon has 1/6 gravity, Mars has 1/3. Moon has no atmosphere worth speaking of, Mars has some. Moon has huge temperature variations between light and shade, Mars has far less. Moon has highly abrasive dust, Martian dust is worn down by the storms.
The list goes on and on.
Um, who is getting shot at in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere? Dumbass.
If I remember correctly, the annual death toll in Iraq and Afghanistan is roughly the same as... one day on Omaha Beach, or about six hours on the Eastern Front.
Again, read the court documents on the Toyota ECU in the 'unintended acceleration' cases. The people who examined the software showed that a single bit flip could cause the ECU to stop reading the throttle, because there was no ECC to correct it.
Why should "researchers" get to view the code? Here in Silicon Valley I cannot think of any instances where any outsiders routinely get access to a company's code.
Because people die when the programmers screw up.
Read the court documents on Toyota's ECU software sometime, to see what 'researchers' found when they were allowed to look at it.
Wouldn't it be nice to be able to make your own ecm with a arduino or raspberry pi? Last one I had to replace was $700.
That would be great. Until it broke after about two miles.
Cars are generally considered to one of the toughest environments for electronics. For example, there's so much electrical noise that you really, really, really don't want to be using RAM without error correction.
If that estimate were even remotely accurate, lorries and buses have already killed far more people than are alive today.
I presume this is like the often-quoted British study which showed that traffic pollution caused something like 20,000 deaths a year.
Except, when you actually read it, you found that the half of those deaths attributed to non-diesel vehicles was just a number pulled out of their butt because there was no actual valid data to base it on, and most of the 20,000 deaths were people who would were desperately sick and would have died soon anyway.
As you say, when you add up all these 'studies', you find that the entire human race must have died out centuries ago.
Either that or the protruding knobs on the radio and HVAC would pierce your skull.
Ah, yes. That was back in the days when the Jensen FF, the first road car with AWD and ABS, couldn't be sold in America because the US government didn't like the shape of the dashboard switches...
VR is a dead end. How would you create a VR environment that is real?
You, um, plug it directly into your brain, dude.
The 'VR' we have today is just a low-tech precursor of what we'll have in fifty years.
The market will resolve this, right? People will choose the safer cars?
Most drivers don't much care about safety, because they don't expect to be in a crash where it makes a difference... and most of those won't be. That doesn't mean they'll buy a car with a spke sticking out of the steering wheel, but cars became 'safe enough' long ago.
IPV6 is just a fad. I'm not upgrading until IPV7.
And this is why it often seems that 90% of the Java code I read is catching exceptions and doing stuff with them. Normally throwing another exception.
It would have been interesting to "retire" the shuttles as in orbit stations...but I suppose the whole issue of how to get the last person back to earth might have been an issue.
Sure, after you'd built a completely new power generation system to replace the fuel cells, and torn them apart and rebuilt them so they didn't leak air at many times the rate a space station does.