It's not totally free in the way the gOffice dreamers would like it to be, but I must say I was pretty impressed with the interface (basically an Office 2000 clone but in your browser).
BTW, it's 100% Java so it works in Linux, Mac or whatever.
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I had used PS off and on for several years just for tinkering. Then I moved to Linux (5 yrs. ago) and determined to become proficient with the Gimp.
A few years later I started working in graphic design and web design. Since I knew the Gimp the best, I installed it immediately, and used it everyday for ~3 years while at that position. PS was also installed on my computer from day 1, but I still used Gimp for 95% of my graphic work (yes, print work too) because it was the most comfortable for me.
I never remember having all that difficult of a time getting used to the interface. Many people gripe about the interface, and I did have some issues with the 1.x series, but since 2.x these usability issues are just about all gone. I definately fought with Photoshop interface when ever I used it (working w/multiple images in PS is no picnic). And getting the appropriate dialogs to come up can be a headache (toggle with tab vs. F7 and soon you have a mess).
All I can say is I feel pretty damn lucky to be able to stay cutting edge with the Gimp's latest releases for absolutely nothing out of my pocket. And another huge bonus is you'll find Gimp developers hanging out on the user mailing list answering questions, etc. That kind of accessibility to developers will just never happen with non-open source apps.
My pages are nothing but a single, empty html and body tag... and EVERYTHING is dynamically cross format focused in Nashian triplicate (yeah! it goes there) on the back-end.
> Where BitTorrent might have an impact would be on a BAD movie -- and that is what I think Hollywood is really worried about. Did you see the backlash against cell phones and SMS after The Hulk came out?
I always thought Mozilla's smooth and transparent SVG implementation was leaps and bounds over Macromedia's Flash plugin which feels like a second-hand browser afterthought.
I envision thousands of pages springing up w/sweet SVG content running in Firefox/Opera only (WebCore/KHtml too?). As Internet "power" users will naturally want the full Internet experience... they'll jump the IE ship in droves!
An earlier poster claimed IE would have support for SVG (via the buggy Adobe SVG plugin?), but I don't imagine IE will implement this natively for 7.0. Again, I question IE's support for SVG until I see a substantiated web reference claiming so.
I agree 100%. Every powerful program has a learning curve. The Gimp is no exception.
I use the Gimp everyday for work (web/print design), and literally have ZERO complaints. Learn the program well, then post your complaints to the appropriate channel (mailing list, bugzilla, etc.) if you still have them.
I am absolutely indebted to the selfless efforts of the Gimp devs past and present.
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Your. Grammer. Sucks.
"...a direct consequence of the dissolving of normal social relationships. Trust is then defined by external attributes ..."
Very well put!
I'd mod you up to 6 if I could.
Count Japan as another country that wouldn't have a clue to this gesture (or the vernacular you used).
Same in Japan.
Point well made!
Cool, there's a PC version. That means it'll run on Windows, Linux and the upcoming PC Mac!
Oh, wait...
Anyone heard of Think Free Office?
It's not totally free in the way the gOffice dreamers would like it to be, but I must say I was pretty impressed with the interface (basically an Office 2000 clone but in your browser).
BTW, it's 100% Java so it works in Linux, Mac or whatever.
Link here: http://www.thinkfree.com/
I had used PS off and on for several years just for tinkering. Then I moved to Linux (5 yrs. ago) and determined to become proficient with the Gimp.
A few years later I started working in graphic design and web design. Since I knew the Gimp the best, I installed it immediately, and used it everyday for ~3 years while at that position. PS was also installed on my computer from day 1, but I still used Gimp for 95% of my graphic work (yes, print work too) because it was the most comfortable for me.
I never remember having all that difficult of a time getting used to the interface. Many people gripe about the interface, and I did have some issues with the 1.x series, but since 2.x these usability issues are just about all gone. I definately fought with Photoshop interface when ever I used it (working w/multiple images in PS is no picnic). And getting the appropriate dialogs to come up can be a headache (toggle with tab vs. F7 and soon you have a mess).
All I can say is I feel pretty damn lucky to be able to stay cutting edge with the Gimp's latest releases for absolutely nothing out of my pocket. And another huge bonus is you'll find Gimp developers hanging out on the user mailing list answering questions, etc. That kind of accessibility to developers will just never happen with non-open source apps.
Kudos Gimp devs!
The submitter cleaverly distanced us from all the innovation out there that isn't unique. Good work!
Actually, he has all that too.
"MS Office WILL fall. So will Windows. History tells us it will happen."
Err... a wikipedia link would've been helpful here.
"...and aren't not going to be swayed..."
So they will be swayed?
I'm so far ahead of this guy it hurts...
My pages are nothing but a single, empty html and body tag... and EVERYTHING is dynamically cross format focused in Nashian triplicate (yeah! it goes there) on the back-end.
You cannot touch this!
Or better(?) yet how soon till all business have their logo (or other Marketing baloney) plastered on top of their buildings?
Cool... but I can't get the sound working on this one.
Any help would be much obliged!
EP
Not sure why parent was w/modded 'funny'. Those were my exact thoughts too!
You're a bit off topic, but it sounds like Linux might be up your alley.
It comes in all sizes (and then some).
> Where BitTorrent might have an impact would be on a BAD movie -- and that is what I think Hollywood is really worried about. Did you see the backlash against cell phones and SMS after The Hulk came out?
...Good god he gets mad.
What??? The Hulk was freaking awesome!
> AFAIK, I just can't relabel it as FrepSearchIncredible
Actually, you can.
What if a browser (in wide circulation) has poor/broken adherence to "web standards", security issues up the wazoo and generally sucks Possum pooh?
It's about time! :)
I always thought Mozilla's smooth and transparent SVG implementation was leaps and bounds over Macromedia's Flash plugin which feels like a second-hand browser afterthought.
I envision thousands of pages springing up w/sweet SVG content running in Firefox/Opera only (WebCore/KHtml too?). As Internet "power" users will naturally want the full Internet experience... they'll jump the IE ship in droves!
An earlier poster claimed IE would have support for SVG (via the buggy Adobe SVG plugin?), but I don't imagine IE will implement this natively for 7.0. Again, I question IE's support for SVG until I see a substantiated web reference claiming so.
Note: Current bee's knees for SVG samples: http://www.croczilla.com/svg/samples/
> Opera 8.0 supports SVG, and so will IE7
IE will support SVG natively or via Adobe's horribly outdated SVG plugin?
Please provide a reference link.
Roberts, you've just earned yourself a time-out!
Hands down best Explorer replacement I've found (of course, it's not too tough to out do Explorer - God awful app).
xplorer2 - http://zabkat.com/
It's a powerhorse, dual pane file browser with a gazillion keyboard shortcuts that replace so much tideous mouse clickity-clicking.
Note: there's a free "lite" version for personal use.
I agree 100%. Every powerful program has a learning curve. The Gimp is no exception.
I use the Gimp everyday for work (web/print design), and literally have ZERO complaints. Learn the program well, then post your complaints to the appropriate channel (mailing list, bugzilla, etc.) if you still have them.
I am absolutely indebted to the selfless efforts of the Gimp devs past and present.
I thank you!
I've been watching XFCE development from the sidelines for ~2 yrs.
The 4.2 releases I tried were extremely impressive, except for one little (big?) thing I couldn't get resolved.
I can't pull up the main menu or window list w/the keyboard.
Here's the baffling response I received on the XFCE forum.
I'm sure they'll get it figured out someday, but I'm a keyboard shortcut-aholic, so until they do, I'll be watching from the sidelines.