For most people it is a burden, along with maintaining it. I am sure Intel will come up with a nice chipset to make a lot of this easier to integrate into an already exisiting home.
Yes, but for this you need an operating system and a multi-media center. I cannot see how you would do this with a chipset, unless you would want to do all this in hardware? The hardware is allready there. It's called a motherboard (maybe with integrated graphics, sound, ethernet etc) and a CPU. And a harddrive for storage, and DVD's for external storage. Sounds pretty much as a PC, don't ya think?
For other inovative ideas (that will fail, due to the fact that Philips is launching them) lookup streamium. Anybody for a nice LCD screen that plays DIVX and MP3's as well? That's more like the integration I am waiting for.
The problem with these kind of strategies is that Wi-Fi is only the start of new generation technologies using airwaves. So there is quite a big risk that they will be caught up by new technologies as they go along.
On the other hand, this is the first step into a universally available internet everywhere - for free. This is especially interesting for people with little money as well. They can pick up a cheap computer, add a wireless PCI card and have internet access in a whiff.
The other thing is that this would be great on the road. But I do not know how well Wi-Fi works with moving targets. What I do now that there is a huge potential market for services for people that 1) know where they are (GPS) and 2) have continuous internet connections (GPRS, UMTS, Wi-Fi etc).
Still, with the current market situation, I don't think it is politically correct for the government to provide internet connections. They've got to create more online services first, and then worry about access.
Yes, but that are all point to point connections. I have got that set up already with my friends. Problem is that you won't get any routing, and you must trust each friend. It's a pain on your firewall and sockets setup as well.
What I need - and I think more people are interested in this - is something that established a virtual LAN. Now, VLAN is already another technology, so we might need another acronym. I would consider Open Virtual Private Lan, or OpenVPL for short (see below).
The biggest issues are probably the routing - e.g. broadcast packages - and management. You would also want to set it up as a LAN adapter as well (which requires insight in device driver development). You would probably want to start off with something like OpenVPN and add routing and management on top of it.
As you can see, I did a little thinking beforehand. Currently my private developments are all in Java unfortunately, so programming the TCP/IP stack in Linux is a bit too remote for me. This IS an interesting idea though, most of you will probably agree.
Or they will just wait until Open Office is dead, and continue to develop their product further. As long as people don't really switch, they will have the cloud to continue on. The problem would be solved if the government would make open standards (for the files as well as the scripting language) REQUIRED for companies to deliver a product. It's not so much the program they use, it's what they save it in. OO.o would not amount to anything if it could not read word, but MS is now patenting their document formats.
This is getting rediculous, my bank as well as my government is forcing me to use MS products, while at the same time sueing Microsoft for being a monopoly (EU). To sum it all up? Open Source: maybe; Open Standards: definately.
Yeah, that would explain the link to slsahdot.org in the article below. Those people that type URL's wrong are all lusers. They probably get internet access just to be able to read slsahdot.org, that must be ti. Whoops where I go.
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Very interesting idea, but is it possible to use the same technology to create a virtual LAN, just for my friends? I'm not so sure that I trust all these anonymous people to be honest, and not wreak havoc. A virtual LAN to my friends though would be a big plus (and a very bad dream for the record industry), next to the real internet of course.
Actually, when using BSH, it's pretty fun to use it (Java) as a scripting language, and it certainly beats the hell out of JavaScript (or python, but that's just my less te opinion). The JNI interface is pretty simple, but you would have to put it in place of the managed C++ SDK.
Now if they would only intergrate BSH into Eclipse so you can have completion etc. etc. as well.
Dunno. I presume you would want to keep the files on one place on the disk. You could spread them out, but that would be like RAID 5. If you keep them at one spot, and you loose the disk, then PAR/PAR2 is not going to save you. If you do PAR over multiple files... well... is possible, but yuk. RAID has been proven technology as well.
Personally I think this whole hard disk storage thing will work out fine for my personal collection, but for something that does not have to be online all the time I don't think disks will cut the mustard. The power requirements alone...
Cause I don't wanna mess up my test computer running solaris for instance. My main PC is running linux, but I would not want to mess that up either. Messing my computer up is very unlikely thing to happen, say one in a hundreth. But hey, there are many applications out there. Not that I am going to test drive this, if only because of a lack of time.
Unfortunately Java still has to run on an unmanaged OS. Even though the Java language provides a very nice API to a lot of things, it is not as rich as the Windows API. Microsofts API will become more and more managed when MS releases Longhorn. After that it will become increasingly secure.
I cannot see ANY similar advancement for Linux or Solaris. The problem with Java is that there is no Java OS. Even worse, there is no default way to handle Java installations or manage libraries (version management). Don't even mention Java web start please.
A Java programmer who finds it difficult to deploy his standalone applications.
I agree with almost everything of your post. However, I must say that not every features.NET has over Java is an improvement. And not everything has such a long track record either. It took MS almost no time at all to implement almost every single feature of Java 1.5 into C#. Then again, Java added auto-boxing, which seems to stem from C#. None of the features of both languages is really original of course.
Note that the Java VM of Microsoft was not that safe. I am very curious if.NET will have a better track record. Safe code is very interesting thing to have - if it runs on a safe virtual machine.
Pffft, I am working with a couple of high grade C++ programmers. When they go down using pointers etc. you can be sure they introduce some overflow errors. You need at least a code checker to make sure that the most common mistakes are avoided. This is like saying that Internet Explorer is not insecure, as long as you visit the right web-sites.
For most applications assembly is a worthless insecure language, and you should stick to a higher level language if you don't want to introduce problems (for anything larger, but probably including "hello world").
Ehm, you forgot about spy-ware, which seems to be able to install on your machine without any intervention. I've seen spy-ware installed on computers with a complete set of updates of both Windows and anti-virus software.
Then you have the problem that your XP box will become older, and MS looses interest. Currently they only seem to mind XP and Longhorn. Now you will have the choice of upgrading, or buying a new computer, if you need one or not.
Then there is the problem that many computers are way to easy to exploit. You should be able to give your 4 year old a computer which he/she cannot easily mess up. Linux actually can do this. The professional range of MS products just barely can, or can't, depending on your viewpoint. Actually, Linux cannot either, since you can still execute programs as a user, have access to the tmp folder and have full web access.
We need a new operating system that operates on a higher level (e.g. don't let programs install/deinstall themselves) to get rid of those problems.
Well, it has some advantages. First of all, it works for any security that relies on passwords. Anything can store a password anyway, you _need_ to trust the system you log on to. The big deal is that you don't rely on a single password for security. Somebody able to catch a users passwords with the camera phone probably could steal the key as well since you have to put it in the computer (and it WILL be forgotten). First you have to shoulder serve a bit, then you wait until you are alone with the key. Much more probable in my experience, since you don't have to do anything conspicuous while the user is there.
That's not such a big problem; give them an item without network access, say a small organizer. Then tell them to remember one password. Put an application on the organizer that encrypts/decrypts passwords, and use that one password for it.
Things to make this scheme more interesting: - backup of encrypted databases possible - protect main password by 2 man action of sysadmins - use of strong password generator within same application
If you are worried about bad logins to a central authentication point (e.g. windows server), just use time-outs so attackers will have to wait indefinately, and notify the admin if it goes beyond a certain point.
So you bought a couch that didn't fit in your living room and now you're buying another house? Smart! Strange things some people dare to say on slashdot.
Nope, it was sold by somebody that they considered a partner and even a friend, but afaik these are the good people. There was a dutch documentory I've seen about it. Very interesting...
It's the _original_ KaZaa people, before it was sold by a "partner" to the company that made the well known bugged version. So the chance of malware is neglectible.
I hope that no-one gets into trouble, because this stuff is found in many, many books on crypto-analysis. To think that this is in anyway unique is very, very naive. I mean, I've read books for beginners that even explained the enigma code breaking system. That's way beyond substitution etc. etc.. And academic articles go way beyond even that. That said, it is probably very easy to use in the field, so I'll keep it handy.
Only too right. I got a chipset from AMD at first (Athlon), before they handed it over to the chipset manufacturers. It was pretty stable and had all the right features. Only then came VIA with the chipset (which messed up the USB support, as everybody now knows). Now with the Athlon 64 they did not sell their own chipset, but it took quite some time for the chipset and motherboard manufacturers to get it right. And even now they are still trying to get up to par with the latest Pentium offerings (RAID, Gigabit ethernet, Audio, PCI express, integrated graphics, you name it). The stability problems are over, but now we simply have a lag...
Appart from the obvious reasons, wireless links won't wear out. People tend to get very angry when they cannot start up their car. Then again, batteries wear out as well.
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For most people it is a burden, along with maintaining it. I am sure Intel will come up with a nice chipset to make a lot of this easier to integrate into an already exisiting home.
Yes, but for this you need an operating system and a multi-media center. I cannot see how you would do this with a chipset, unless you would want to do all this in hardware? The hardware is allready there. It's called a motherboard (maybe with integrated graphics, sound, ethernet etc) and a CPU. And a harddrive for storage, and DVD's for external storage. Sounds pretty much as a PC, don't ya think?
For other inovative ideas (that will fail, due to the fact that Philips is launching them) lookup streamium. Anybody for a nice LCD screen that plays DIVX and MP3's as well? That's more like the integration I am waiting for.
The problem with these kind of strategies is that Wi-Fi is only the start of new generation technologies using airwaves. So there is quite a big risk that they will be caught up by new technologies as they go along.
On the other hand, this is the first step into a universally available internet everywhere - for free. This is especially interesting for people with little money as well. They can pick up a cheap computer, add a wireless PCI card and have internet access in a whiff.
The other thing is that this would be great on the road. But I do not know how well Wi-Fi works with moving targets. What I do now that there is a huge potential market for services for people that 1) know where they are (GPS) and 2) have continuous internet connections (GPRS, UMTS, Wi-Fi etc).
Still, with the current market situation, I don't think it is politically correct for the government to provide internet connections. They've got to create more online services first, and then worry about access.
Yes, but that are all point to point connections. I have got that set up already with my friends. Problem is that you won't get any routing, and you must trust each friend. It's a pain on your firewall and sockets setup as well.
What I need - and I think more people are interested in this - is something that established a virtual LAN. Now, VLAN is already another technology, so we might need another acronym. I would consider Open Virtual Private Lan, or OpenVPL for short (see below).
The biggest issues are probably the routing - e.g. broadcast packages - and management. You would also want to set it up as a LAN adapter as well (which requires insight in device driver development). You would probably want to start off with something like OpenVPN and add routing and management on top of it.
As you can see, I did a little thinking beforehand. Currently my private developments are all in Java unfortunately, so programming the TCP/IP stack in Linux is a bit too remote for me. This IS an interesting idea though, most of you will probably agree.
Or they will just wait until Open Office is dead, and continue to develop their product further. As long as people don't really switch, they will have the cloud to continue on. The problem would be solved if the government would make open standards (for the files as well as the scripting language) REQUIRED for companies to deliver a product. It's not so much the program they use, it's what they save it in. OO.o would not amount to anything if it could not read word, but MS is now patenting their document formats.
This is getting rediculous, my bank as well as my government is forcing me to use MS products, while at the same time sueing Microsoft for being a monopoly (EU). To sum it all up? Open Source: maybe; Open Standards: definately.
Yeah, that would explain the link to slsahdot.org in the article below. Those people that type URL's wrong are all lusers. They probably get internet access just to be able to read slsahdot.org, that must be ti. Whoops where I go.
Very interesting idea, but is it possible to use the same technology to create a virtual LAN, just for my friends? I'm not so sure that I trust all these anonymous people to be honest, and not wreak havoc. A virtual LAN to my friends though would be a big plus (and a very bad dream for the record industry), next to the real internet of course.
including the removal of the foam from the external tank and pressure sensors on the wings that would detect an impact
Now why would they remove the pressure sensors on the wings? Does that make the shuttle any safer? I don't think so.
Actually, when using BSH, it's pretty fun to use it (Java) as a scripting language, and it certainly beats the hell out of JavaScript (or python, but that's just my less te opinion). The JNI interface is pretty simple, but you would have to put it in place of the managed C++ SDK.
Now if they would only intergrate BSH into Eclipse so you can have completion etc. etc. as well.
Dunno. I presume you would want to keep the files on one place on the disk. You could spread them out, but that would be like RAID 5. If you keep them at one spot, and you loose the disk, then PAR/PAR2 is not going to save you. If you do PAR over multiple files ... well ... is possible, but yuk. RAID has been proven technology as well.
Personally I think this whole hard disk storage thing will work out fine for my personal collection, but for something that does not have to be online all the time I don't think disks will cut the mustard. The power requirements alone...
ps. yes, I know, cut the mustard...psk.
Jurassic Park lost? Let's go with the peer to peer stuff!
Cause I don't wanna mess up my test computer running solaris for instance. My main PC is running linux, but I would not want to mess that up either. Messing my computer up is very unlikely thing to happen, say one in a hundreth. But hey, there are many applications out there. Not that I am going to test drive this, if only because of a lack of time.
Unfortunately Java still has to run on an unmanaged OS. Even though the Java language provides a very nice API to a lot of things, it is not as rich as the Windows API. Microsofts API will become more and more managed when MS releases Longhorn. After that it will become increasingly secure.
I cannot see ANY similar advancement for Linux or Solaris. The problem with Java is that there is no Java OS. Even worse, there is no default way to handle Java installations or manage libraries (version management). Don't even mention Java web start please.
A Java programmer who finds it difficult to deploy his standalone applications.
I agree with almost everything of your post. However, I must say that not every features .NET has over Java is an improvement. And not everything has such a long track record either. It took MS almost no time at all to implement almost every single feature of Java 1.5 into C#. Then again, Java added auto-boxing, which seems to stem from C#. None of the features of both languages is really original of course.
.NET will have a better track record. Safe code is very interesting thing to have - if it runs on a safe virtual machine.
Note that the Java VM of Microsoft was not that safe. I am very curious if
Pffft, I am working with a couple of high grade C++ programmers. When they go down using pointers etc. you can be sure they introduce some overflow errors. You need at least a code checker to make sure that the most common mistakes are avoided. This is like saying that Internet Explorer is not insecure, as long as you visit the right web-sites.
For most applications assembly is a worthless insecure language, and you should stick to a higher level language if you don't want to introduce problems (for anything larger, but probably including "hello world").
Ehm, you forgot about spy-ware, which seems to be able to install on your machine without any intervention. I've seen spy-ware installed on computers with a complete set of updates of both Windows and anti-virus software.
Then you have the problem that your XP box will become older, and MS looses interest. Currently they only seem to mind XP and Longhorn. Now you will have the choice of upgrading, or buying a new computer, if you need one or not.
Then there is the problem that many computers are way to easy to exploit. You should be able to give your 4 year old a computer which he/she cannot easily mess up. Linux actually can do this. The professional range of MS products just barely can, or can't, depending on your viewpoint. Actually, Linux cannot either, since you can still execute programs as a user, have access to the tmp folder and have full web access.
We need a new operating system that operates on a higher level (e.g. don't let programs install/deinstall themselves) to get rid of those problems.
Well, it has some advantages. First of all, it works for any security that relies on passwords. Anything can store a password anyway, you _need_ to trust the system you log on to. The big deal is that you don't rely on a single password for security. Somebody able to catch a users passwords with the camera phone probably could steal the key as well since you have to put it in the computer (and it WILL be forgotten). First you have to shoulder serve a bit, then you wait until you are alone with the key. Much more probable in my experience, since you don't have to do anything conspicuous while the user is there.
That's not such a big problem; give them an item without network access, say a small organizer. Then tell them to remember one password. Put an application on the organizer that encrypts/decrypts passwords, and use that one password for it.
Things to make this scheme more interesting:
- backup of encrypted databases possible
- protect main password by 2 man action of sysadmins
- use of strong password generator within same application
If you are worried about bad logins to a central authentication point (e.g. windows server), just use time-outs so attackers will have to wait indefinately, and notify the admin if it goes beyond a certain point.
So you bought a couch that didn't fit in your living room and now you're buying another house? Smart! Strange things some people dare to say on slashdot.
Nope, it was sold by somebody that they considered a partner and even a friend, but afaik these are the good people. There was a dutch documentory I've seen about it. Very interesting...
It's the _original_ KaZaa people, before it was sold by a "partner" to the company that made the well known bugged version. So the chance of malware is neglectible.
I hope that no-one gets into trouble, because this stuff is found in many, many books on crypto-analysis. To think that this is in anyway unique is very, very naive. I mean, I've read books for beginners that even explained the enigma code breaking system. That's way beyond substitution etc. etc.. And academic articles go way beyond even that. That said, it is probably very easy to use in the field, so I'll keep it handy.
Only too right. I got a chipset from AMD at first (Athlon), before they handed it over to the chipset manufacturers. It was pretty stable and had all the right features. Only then came VIA with the chipset (which messed up the USB support, as everybody now knows). Now with the Athlon 64 they did not sell their own chipset, but it took quite some time for the chipset and motherboard manufacturers to get it right. And even now they are still trying to get up to par with the latest Pentium offerings (RAID, Gigabit ethernet, Audio, PCI express, integrated graphics, you name it). The stability problems are over, but now we simply have a lag...
You always have Nano-ITX. If VIA manages to use serial ata as well as PCI-e into their motherboard they could shrink a bit without too many problems.
Appart from the obvious reasons, wireless links won't wear out. People tend to get very angry when they cannot start up their car. Then again, batteries wear out as well.
Does this mean they are now selling "US passport grade security"?