I'm a really big proponent of Java, but I'll be the first to say that it failed to make an impact as web-plugin. I don't know how they could screw up so badly (I do have a few pointers such as the horrible AWT / Swing idea) but I'll be the first that applets and - in lesser form - webstart completely and utterly sucks. And you could say that for many Java GUI applications, if only for the horrendous, evil, completely useless file chooser dialog box that should somehow reassemble the OS provided one.
I'll make a small exception for Eclipse and Eclipse based applications, which does have a pretty good (underestimated) application framework.
Point me to the mature crypto library for those frameworks. The static code analyzers. The parsing IDE's. The tools. The extensive libraries. The up to date unicode handling. I've seen many many claims about "mature" frameworks that simply aren't. Actually, I make a point of trying out frameworks. Many don't even make it into the first week, and I have met none that are as mature and maintainable as Java.
In my spare time I have thought of many many ways of creating a more mature language than Java, fixing many of it's mistakes. I *know* it can be done. Unfortunately most languages seem to focus on sparsity and features instead of readability, security and maintainability. I'll happily switch if I can find one that does a better job (and isn't SmallTalk).
Require correct Java applications next time. None of the software I have *ever* written for Java had problems after an update. Sometimes you use deprecated methods (which tend to be supported for about forever before disappearing) but that's it.
I had one or two problems with Eclipse, but that had to do with the SWT, not so much with the Java update itself either.
Humbug. The article even says there are few zero day exploits in there. Real security issues are fixed in orderly fashion (well, mostly, nothing's perfect).
And look at the other option: implementing it yourself. Do you think that companies performing all the memory management and security implementations would be doing a better job? Less visible maybe, but I'm pretty sure that the relatively few bugs that affect Java deployments weigh up against that? My bet (and my experience with "seasoned C++ programmers") says that they don't.
Java is doing pretty well regarding security. Yes, it could still be a *lot* better, but I think it does pretty well compared with most other languages or web frameworks. Or do you have a better alternative?
I'm not a fan of any copyright bureau, but I have to point out the obvious: how many people will download a *crappy* movie and still go to the theater? That's lost sales, even *if* it is for a crappy movie *1.
*1 crappy for the general public, there is lots of movies that I would think of as crappy that become a box office success
Why is this modded interesting? I have a strong feeling it does not work that way, and "we" are certainly not doing that on purpose. Funny maybe, interesting? Nah.
Was a lot better than that, somehow that always seems to water down with Windows. With Ubuntu, I can at least keep my computer on (or, most of the time, sleeping or hibernating) more often than with Windows.
Exactly. The trick is to put serious demands on business (not so much taxation or paperwork) and then let businesses loose on a level - but high level - playing ground. Then let them fight it out. You want to have less trouble with the chinese import? Put serious demands on the products and production methods and see if they can still compete. Bonus: you get a better world.
You simply cannot expect consumers to see every little detail when they are in the shop, and put it all to capitalism. Governments have the right and the responsibility for the world we are living in - supported by the people. And you can certainly not leave it to the business community (or banks).
It took me about 15 minutes and still I could not get the freakin' button displaying my workspaces at the spot that I want it. Switching workspaces is important to me. Sometimes I cannot get the launch bar or whatever to show either, have to minimize my application first. F*ck that shit, I gave it a fair try, nothing is good about that Unity release. Main stream Ubuntu is now dead to me. Too many switches and fuckups. Dumbing it down is ok to me, but once I cannot get to a folder I choose in a "save as" dialog...bye bye.
Very reliable, very noisy, replaced with an Intel G2 SSD in my computer. Hopefully similar reliability (looks that way), much faster and completely silent. 10K desktop market is dead in the water. But it's a good drive, I give you that.
Oh? What's all that extremely dangerous stuff doing locked up in "temporary", human protected storage then? Green people are always bashed here for not being scientific, but this must be one of the most ignorant naive comments ever, and it gets upvoted to +5 interesting.
In the end, we will use the same senses, so I'm not that worried about that particular problem. If it is advanced enough, it will have radio, lasers etc. Why wouldn't it? Because their "eyes" are on a different wavelength? I cannot receive radio either, not without my cell phone anyway.
My post is wrong as well of course, it's not 3 hours ahead and - 1 day.... It was 21 hours later than Sydney, now it's 3 hours ahead according to the article.
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I'm a really big proponent of Java, but I'll be the first to say that it failed to make an impact as web-plugin. I don't know how they could screw up so badly (I do have a few pointers such as the horrible AWT / Swing idea) but I'll be the first that applets and - in lesser form - webstart completely and utterly sucks. And you could say that for many Java GUI applications, if only for the horrendous, evil, completely useless file chooser dialog box that should somehow reassemble the OS provided one.
I'll make a small exception for Eclipse and Eclipse based applications, which does have a pretty good (underestimated) application framework.
Right.
Point me to the mature crypto library for those frameworks. The static code analyzers. The parsing IDE's. The tools. The extensive libraries. The up to date unicode handling. I've seen many many claims about "mature" frameworks that simply aren't. Actually, I make a point of trying out frameworks. Many don't even make it into the first week, and I have met none that are as mature and maintainable as Java.
In my spare time I have thought of many many ways of creating a more mature language than Java, fixing many of it's mistakes. I *know* it can be done. Unfortunately most languages seem to focus on sparsity and features instead of readability, security and maintainability. I'll happily switch if I can find one that does a better job (and isn't SmallTalk).
Require correct Java applications next time. None of the software I have *ever* written for Java had problems after an update. Sometimes you use deprecated methods (which tend to be supported for about forever before disappearing) but that's it.
I had one or two problems with Eclipse, but that had to do with the SWT, not so much with the Java update itself either.
Then you should take a careful look at your source code, because it is *broken*.
Humbug. The article even says there are few zero day exploits in there. Real security issues are fixed in orderly fashion (well, mostly, nothing's perfect).
And look at the other option: implementing it yourself. Do you think that companies performing all the memory management and security implementations would be doing a better job? Less visible maybe, but I'm pretty sure that the relatively few bugs that affect Java deployments weigh up against that? My bet (and my experience with "seasoned C++ programmers") says that they don't.
Java is doing pretty well regarding security. Yes, it could still be a *lot* better, but I think it does pretty well compared with most other languages or web frameworks. Or do you have a better alternative?
I'm not a fan of any copyright bureau, but I have to point out the obvious: how many people will download a *crappy* movie and still go to the theater? That's lost sales, even *if* it is for a crappy movie *1.
*1 crappy for the general public, there is lots of movies that I would think of as crappy that become a box office success
Why is this modded interesting? I have a strong feeling it does not work that way, and "we" are certainly not doing that on purpose. Funny maybe, interesting? Nah.
This kind of answer deserves a +5 funny guys, where's the slashdot of old?
Was a lot better than that, somehow that always seems to water down with Windows. With Ubuntu, I can at least keep my computer on (or, most of the time, sleeping or hibernating) more often than with Windows.
Exactly. The trick is to put serious demands on business (not so much taxation or paperwork) and then let businesses loose on a level - but high level - playing ground. Then let them fight it out. You want to have less trouble with the chinese import? Put serious demands on the products and production methods and see if they can still compete. Bonus: you get a better world.
You simply cannot expect consumers to see every little detail when they are in the shop, and put it all to capitalism. Governments have the right and the responsibility for the world we are living in - supported by the people. And you can certainly not leave it to the business community (or banks).
I had the same issue, and now I use curved water which flows more easily through the pipes...
Oh, great, we'll see pre-fab sand castles in stores, taking all the fun out of *that* little competition. Real scientists should not play with sand.
It took me about 15 minutes and still I could not get the freakin' button displaying my workspaces at the spot that I want it. Switching workspaces is important to me. Sometimes I cannot get the launch bar or whatever to show either, have to minimize my application first. F*ck that shit, I gave it a fair try, nothing is good about that Unity release. Main stream Ubuntu is now dead to me. Too many switches and fuckups. Dumbing it down is ok to me, but once I cannot get to a folder I choose in a "save as" dialog...bye bye.
Very reliable, very noisy, replaced with an Intel G2 SSD in my computer. Hopefully similar reliability (looks that way), much faster and completely silent. 10K desktop market is dead in the water. But it's a good drive, I give you that.
Proposing to use your ex as fuel is taking it a bit far...
Yeah, but the products already looked a lot more real at the second site.
Why is a post that links through to a non-existing google plus page upvoted?
https://www.google.com/search?q=greenpeace+coal+plant+protest+pictures&hl=xx-elmer&sa=G&gbv=2&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=f-40T-m5EqnK0QXeq8iYAg&ved=0CBoQsAQ&biw=1787&bih=1139
Maybe that's because of the local (& sea water) pollution that those plants produce?
Oh? What's all that extremely dangerous stuff doing locked up in "temporary", human protected storage then? Green people are always bashed here for not being scientific, but this must be one of the most ignorant naive comments ever, and it gets upvoted to +5 interesting.
In the end, we will use the same senses, so I'm not that worried about that particular problem. If it is advanced enough, it will have radio, lasers etc. Why wouldn't it? Because their "eyes" are on a different wavelength? I cannot receive radio either, not without my cell phone anyway.
...to Samoa... :)
It explains why I only have part of "Jephtha" by Handel though.
My post is wrong as well of course, it's not 3 hours ahead and - 1 day.... It was 21 hours later than Sydney, now it's 3 hours ahead according to the article.
Then again, what's Christmas mid travel but a poor substitution?