Meh, it works good enough to watch a bit of youtube. And that's what I am using it for most: my TV guide app. can show previews of the films on TV, which I watch when I'm in the metro. I am the proud owner of a HTC hero, for which HTC was so nice to provide a Android 2.1 update for (though I might hack it to Froyo if it gets less responsive).
And you can easily put in an icon that forces a process that owns a Window to quit (it looks like a broken window on Ubuntu/GNOME). The only times I have to reboot is when X.org takes out the desktop *and* the keyboard, or when ACPI fails. Those things things still happens too often.
Oh, I forgot their micro-controller business for the automotive and other embedded markets. That's probably even more a CPU than the SoC's used in the security controller business.
Infineon does not make cell-phone or computer CPU's. They do however create smart card controllers and security controllers that contain a CPU.
Smart card controllers do have some rather specific security design constraints though (the high end Infineon SLE66 obviously did not have enough not to be hacked though: look for Christopher Tarnovsky and watch the video).
So there might be an awful lot of phones out there with Infineon CPU's, but they are in the SIM card:)
Googling Infineon SIM brought up this press release:
Oh, I have countless examples too. I do also know that there is a very large Java eco-system still very much alive. The reason why Java 7 is taking so long is because it is not only fully GPL'ed (replacing some libs) but also because of the long discussions on what should be in there.
I do fully agree that the JSR method of doing things can be overly frustrating. But all in all, it still does not mean in any way that Java is dead. Just take a look at the Eclipse & Glassfish communities, for instance. There is a lot of stuff happening there.
Generics are IMHO far from perfect, but they did have to be bolted on an existing language - and they are still very very usable. Personally, I do think it is time for a new language too, but I haven't seen one that has been written to replace Java as such. A strong focus on maintainability & security is what makes Java so suitable for EE and even things like Android (class loaders and such). That's something I am missing in many (all?) new languages. Most new languages still focus on sparseness and so called "strong language features" which just make them easier to write and harder to understand.
Because it is way slower. Because it would use more memory. Because it does not have a set of libraries required for this kind of device. Because it does not suit itself well to the security architecture implemented in the device. Because V8 was not present when they implemented Android.
"It may be broken, but not in a good way. Instead of a conflagration of war, Europe may just get permanently stuck at the totalitarian or fascist stage."
Huh, where do you see this happening? In the Netherlands it might be the most pronounced, but it's certainly not at the stage where we should overly worry.
"That's because after WWII, the US was the only nation that had the economic and military power to ensure that Europe wouldn't be overrun by the USSR."
That's some time ago, and certainly the USA would have been better off not going into Asia to defend that part of the world against communism.
"So? War is not intrinsically wrong. Most of the wars that the US has engaged in have been in defense of market economies and democracy, and in ensuring the access to the raw materials that Europe and the US need. Some of the wars have been unjust, more have been unwise, but unlike European nations, the US has not been trying to build an empire, and it has generally respected the right to self-determination."
Defense of market economies? Access to raw materials? Since when do countries have the right to the raw materials in other countries? Not trying to build an empire? Only for as long as US interests are not harmed. It's just that your administrators are the CIA.
"The US had its Great Depression and got through it without devolving into fascism; somehow, it seems to be resilient. It is possible that US democracy is starting to fall apart, under the strains of military engagements, social tensions, and corporate power. But things seem no worse than a century ago."
I believe that during the great depression there was quite a lot of finger pointing and people being abused in very serious ways. I think I just saw a film about that, actually. That it was kept within the US is of course better than starting a war with the neighbors. And don't forget that that is less hard if your neighbors only include Mexico & Canada - who in all probability did not have anything to do with the great depression in the first place.
"It's Germany you should worry about. No German democracy has survived a major economic crises yet, and the current German democracy has never had to face any serious economic problems. And, tellingly, as German democracy was falling apart a century ago, you got the same kind of anti-American rhetoric and demagoguery that's coming out of Germany today."
Most anti-American rhetoric I've heard from Germans is that they disagree with the wars fought by America. Actually, I think it is the case that the US has forgotten much more about WW II than the Germans. Certainly the wars they are fighting now should have never been fought. Just forcefully bending everything to the capitalist ideas is not a good idea at all - especially now these ideas are leading us into deeper and deeper trouble.
The next wars (and, in Africa, the current wars) won't be about fascism, they will be about natural resources. Unless we get wise and stop them from happening.
Dalvik is optimized for the mobile platform, it's that simple. I'm not sure that using the Java VM would help; GPL is about licensing software, and not directly about patents.
Oh, can we please stop modding something insightful whenever somebody complains about a feature not being implemented in Java, or when Java is pronounced dead? It annoys the hell out of me, mostly because it is clearly bogus and has been disproven since the first years of Java.
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The trouble with the IC market is that it is rather volatile. So larger companies tend to separate themselves from the IC dept to keep the shareholders happy who don't like fluctuating stock. So it probably makes more sense to say that these companies were founded by their respective parents.
I don't know, we live in a vastly different world than the ones before us. We are continuously confronted with what war achieves. Together with that, the introduction of the Euro means that we Europeans are very much in trouble together when we start a war with our neighbor. The history of the world is changing very rapidly, if there was any cycle it might well and truly be broken by now.
The most aggressive country by far is the US. It makes war with countries that never even threatened the US. It takes the drug war outside it's borders and destabilizes large parts of the world because of it (instead of ending their own problems with poverty). That the US does not have any wars inside of its borders (and outside of prisons) does not mean that there is no war there. So let the first country without sin cast the first stone.
The most troubling thing for me is the economic stability. If masses of people get out of work and there is mass poverty, then political correctness is the first to suffer (like in pre-Nazi Germany, were the nation went bankrupt after the first world war).
No, the PIN is for the authentication to the card. The card can have counter measures when you try to log in too many times. If you have 3 attempts, for instance, you have a chance of 3 out of a million to use the card. That is probably enough to make sure that the card was not used by somebody not knowing the PIN.
You only need those kind of large PIN if you have an unlimited (or at least very high) number of attempts.
There is no such thing as panacea etc. when it comes to something as complex as display tech. I don't see it being used for eBook readers, just to think of just one example. It is about finding the right number of ingredients for the use of a display. Of course, when it comes off age, it will probably remove most if not all of the other active matrix technologies - TV's - in the museum. I still remember the small TV screens from Sony on the display stand - they blew everything away except for the display size. Note that that was more than *10* years ago though.
Personally I cannot wait to *remove* more screen brightness from my computer monitor, I would rather want fast color digital paper displays to succeed.
Very small correction: there are certainly no consumer LED screens, but the large, annoying, things that burn your eyes out with Snickers commercials when you go e.g. to the Sziget festival are certainly LED screens.
Besides that, pictures are not normally completely black. My screen has high contrast and deep blacks, but I have to tweak it a bit before watching "the dark knight" - the picture becomes rather indiscernible.
Are they really artificially low? Personally, I don't believe that, I think you made that up to have an excuse to speed. If there is no apparent reason for you to slow down, there might be a reason that's less detectable.
We were driving on a highway in Italy when we had to take an exit. Right in front of the traffic was an irritating sign that said "60" (that's km/h). No traffic, excellent view, no rain, no loose laying stones, even slightly tilted the right way. So we went in at 75 - only to find out that that kind of tarmac was obviously not build for high temperatures. We found that out when the wheels tried to break away from under us. Fortunately the driver was experienced with drifting so the small rental was kept on the road, but that was one speed sign that certainly was doing it's job.
Maybe there is a school nearby. Maybe it's a place that is accident prone. Maybe the people just had enough of all the noise from fast traveling cars. You can't see those things while driving. And yes, there are lots of reasons why in a particular situation the sign does not make sense. But as long as traffic signs are not qualified to estimate when they should be enforced or not, society has to enforce them. We certainly can't let each driver decide for himself - in that case having traffic signs would be moot.
Oh, for fucks sake. He's trying to improve his situation over there (albeit somewhat naive, you can just buy traffic radars). But no, your answer to this problem is that he should move? Move away from his nice apartment, friends, family etc. etc. just because the street he lives on is unsafe? It's like all those replies from people that if one part of you job sucks you should get another job. If you take that into the extreme, you will always have to move, since nothing is perfect.
Living conditions everywhere are a set of variables. You will always like one part better than the other. If you don't like anything, you will try and up the score or look for a place with a better score.
Hmm, looking at the article again, I must say that a 4 GB SSD is very very low. It might be that they just put a single flash chip (or maybe two) behind a SATA controller, put in the same package. In that case they should be shot for false advertising I suppose. Highest density flash chips are available around 64 GB currently.
That would, however, not explain the high throughput, especially for write actions. I don't know many flash drives that can handle 100 MB/s writes (of course, most are USB, so they won't go over 45 MB/s or so anyway).
"SATA SDHC RAID spotted [bit-tech.net]: " Impress were able to get a pretty impressive 111.4MB/s read and 55.2MB/s write when combining the device with six Transcend 8GB Class 6 SDHC cards."
That's a lot of expensive SD cards. Not even micro-SD cards for which higher HC classes are harder to find. This also just translates to 48 GB of memory, for which - in all proabability - none is set aside for wear leveling.
"That a feature or bug? I really don't like the idea of hard drives being soldered to motherboards "
It's not a hard drive, it's an SSD. SSD's have much less reasons for failure than hard drives. This device is clearly targeting smaller computing platforms, where space is at a premium. It's also much cheaper to do this than to somehow get an SSD on a motherboard.
"Article doesn't mention any of those features, I guess you're just assuming this will have all of those because other SSDs you've used had these features? "
Yes, because otherwise it would just be a flash drive, not an SSD. If you do a specialized RAID (which is what an SSD is) it does not make sense to use a sub-par controller. In the worst case they used one where performance drops significantly after many writes.
"If a manufacture took several MicroSDHC cards apart and put them in raid they would be as small as this solution."
That's what they did, except that they probably did not manufacture the SDHC cards first and did not just use a RAID controller. SDHC cards are also just flash with an IO interface.
You are now talking about "if a manufacture..." "if the manufacture raided several memory chips...". Apart from the spelling you are now defending your competing solution by inventing stuff that does not exist.
SSD's are specialized raids of flash chips, that present themselves as a single drive. Trying to make a generic one from SDHC cards is never going to match the performance and (more important) reliability of an SSD.
What, I don't benefit to see an ad: Whiskey: 25% off? And should not enjoy the add where a guy is trying to get a discount for a holiday standing right at the counter of the hotel?
Most of it is bunk. Most advertising is annoying. Generalizing that every commercial is bogus and irritating is a gross overstatement.
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Meh, it works good enough to watch a bit of youtube. And that's what I am using it for most: my TV guide app. can show previews of the films on TV, which I watch when I'm in the metro. I am the proud owner of a HTC hero, for which HTC was so nice to provide a Android 2.1 update for (though I might hack it to Froyo if it gets less responsive).
And you can easily put in an icon that forces a process that owns a Window to quit (it looks like a broken window on Ubuntu/GNOME). The only times I have to reboot is when X.org takes out the desktop *and* the keyboard, or when ACPI fails. Those things things still happens too often.
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Oh, I forgot their micro-controller business for the automotive and other embedded markets. That's probably even more a CPU than the SoC's used in the security controller business.
Infineon does not make cell-phone or computer CPU's. They do however create smart card controllers and security controllers that contain a CPU.
Smart card controllers do have some rather specific security design constraints though (the high end Infineon SLE66 obviously did not have enough not to be hacked though: look for Christopher Tarnovsky and watch the video).
So there might be an awful lot of phones out there with Infineon CPU's, but they are in the SIM card :)
Googling Infineon SIM brought up this press release:
http://www.infineon.com/cms/en/corporate/press/news/releases/2007/INFAIM200711-014.html
seems like Intel and Infineon are on rather friendly terms.
Oh, there goes the whole idea. Too much power, can't use it for that.
Sheesh, just use less tin foil or cover up part of it to allow for different sun strength.
And remember the lessons from the past: start with a cheap piece of low fat meat :)
JIT of source != JIT byte code. Code size is different too. I won't go into the differences of coding/debugging java or java script.
Android 2.2 froyo is using the JIT version of the VM.
Oh, I have countless examples too. I do also know that there is a very large Java eco-system still very much alive. The reason why Java 7 is taking so long is because it is not only fully GPL'ed (replacing some libs) but also because of the long discussions on what should be in there.
I do fully agree that the JSR method of doing things can be overly frustrating. But all in all, it still does not mean in any way that Java is dead. Just take a look at the Eclipse & Glassfish communities, for instance. There is a lot of stuff happening there.
Generics are IMHO far from perfect, but they did have to be bolted on an existing language - and they are still very very usable. Personally, I do think it is time for a new language too, but I haven't seen one that has been written to replace Java as such. A strong focus on maintainability & security is what makes Java so suitable for EE and even things like Android (class loaders and such). That's something I am missing in many (all?) new languages. Most new languages still focus on sparseness and so called "strong language features" which just make them easier to write and harder to understand.
Because it is way slower.
Because it would use more memory.
Because it does not have a set of libraries required for this kind of device.
Because it does not suit itself well to the security architecture implemented in the device.
Because V8 was not present when they implemented Android.
Need more?
"It may be broken, but not in a good way. Instead of a conflagration of war, Europe may just get permanently stuck at the totalitarian or fascist stage."
Huh, where do you see this happening? In the Netherlands it might be the most pronounced, but it's certainly not at the stage where we should overly worry.
"That's because after WWII, the US was the only nation that had the economic and military power to ensure that Europe wouldn't be overrun by the USSR."
That's some time ago, and certainly the USA would have been better off not going into Asia to defend that part of the world against communism.
"So? War is not intrinsically wrong. Most of the wars that the US has engaged in have been in defense of market economies and democracy, and in ensuring the access to the raw materials that Europe and the US need. Some of the wars have been unjust, more have been unwise, but unlike European nations, the US has not been trying to build an empire, and it has generally respected the right to self-determination."
Defense of market economies? Access to raw materials? Since when do countries have the right to the raw materials in other countries? Not trying to build an empire? Only for as long as US interests are not harmed. It's just that your administrators are the CIA.
"The US had its Great Depression and got through it without devolving into fascism; somehow, it seems to be resilient. It is possible that US democracy is starting to fall apart, under the strains of military engagements, social tensions, and corporate power. But things seem no worse than a century ago."
I believe that during the great depression there was quite a lot of finger pointing and people being abused in very serious ways. I think I just saw a film about that, actually. That it was kept within the US is of course better than starting a war with the neighbors. And don't forget that that is less hard if your neighbors only include Mexico & Canada - who in all probability did not have anything to do with the great depression in the first place.
"It's Germany you should worry about. No German democracy has survived a major economic crises yet, and the current German democracy has never had to face any serious economic problems. And, tellingly, as German democracy was falling apart a century ago, you got the same kind of anti-American rhetoric and demagoguery that's coming out of Germany today."
Most anti-American rhetoric I've heard from Germans is that they disagree with the wars fought by America. Actually, I think it is the case that the US has forgotten much more about WW II than the Germans. Certainly the wars they are fighting now should have never been fought. Just forcefully bending everything to the capitalist ideas is not a good idea at all - especially now these ideas are leading us into deeper and deeper trouble.
The next wars (and, in Africa, the current wars) won't be about fascism, they will be about natural resources. Unless we get wise and stop them from happening.
Dalvik is optimized for the mobile platform, it's that simple. I'm not sure that using the Java VM would help; GPL is about licensing software, and not directly about patents.
Oh, can we please stop modding something insightful whenever somebody complains about a feature not being implemented in Java, or when Java is pronounced dead? It annoys the hell out of me, mostly because it is clearly bogus and has been disproven since the first years of Java.
Somebody mod the first sentence up :)
Infineon = Siemens?
The trouble with the IC market is that it is rather volatile. So larger companies tend to separate themselves from the IC dept to keep the shareholders happy who don't like fluctuating stock. So it probably makes more sense to say that these companies were founded by their respective parents.
I don't know, we live in a vastly different world than the ones before us. We are continuously confronted with what war achieves. Together with that, the introduction of the Euro means that we Europeans are very much in trouble together when we start a war with our neighbor. The history of the world is changing very rapidly, if there was any cycle it might well and truly be broken by now.
The most aggressive country by far is the US. It makes war with countries that never even threatened the US. It takes the drug war outside it's borders and destabilizes large parts of the world because of it (instead of ending their own problems with poverty). That the US does not have any wars inside of its borders (and outside of prisons) does not mean that there is no war there. So let the first country without sin cast the first stone.
The most troubling thing for me is the economic stability. If masses of people get out of work and there is mass poverty, then political correctness is the first to suffer (like in pre-Nazi Germany, were the nation went bankrupt after the first world war).
No, the PIN is for the authentication to the card. The card can have counter measures when you try to log in too many times. If you have 3 attempts, for instance, you have a chance of 3 out of a million to use the card. That is probably enough to make sure that the card was not used by somebody not knowing the PIN.
You only need those kind of large PIN if you have an unlimited (or at least very high) number of attempts.
There is no such thing as panacea etc. when it comes to something as complex as display tech. I don't see it being used for eBook readers, just to think of just one example. It is about finding the right number of ingredients for the use of a display. Of course, when it comes off age, it will probably remove most if not all of the other active matrix technologies - TV's - in the museum. I still remember the small TV screens from Sony on the display stand - they blew everything away except for the display size. Note that that was more than *10* years ago though.
Personally I cannot wait to *remove* more screen brightness from my computer monitor, I would rather want fast color digital paper displays to succeed.
Very small correction: there are certainly no consumer LED screens, but the large, annoying, things that burn your eyes out with Snickers commercials when you go e.g. to the Sziget festival are certainly LED screens.
Besides that, pictures are not normally completely black. My screen has high contrast and deep blacks, but I have to tweak it a bit before watching "the dark knight" - the picture becomes rather indiscernible.
Are they really artificially low? Personally, I don't believe that, I think you made that up to have an excuse to speed. If there is no apparent reason for you to slow down, there might be a reason that's less detectable.
We were driving on a highway in Italy when we had to take an exit. Right in front of the traffic was an irritating sign that said "60" (that's km/h). No traffic, excellent view, no rain, no loose laying stones, even slightly tilted the right way. So we went in at 75 - only to find out that that kind of tarmac was obviously not build for high temperatures. We found that out when the wheels tried to break away from under us. Fortunately the driver was experienced with drifting so the small rental was kept on the road, but that was one speed sign that certainly was doing it's job.
Maybe there is a school nearby. Maybe it's a place that is accident prone. Maybe the people just had enough of all the noise from fast traveling cars. You can't see those things while driving. And yes, there are lots of reasons why in a particular situation the sign does not make sense. But as long as traffic signs are not qualified to estimate when they should be enforced or not, society has to enforce them. We certainly can't let each driver decide for himself - in that case having traffic signs would be moot.
Oh, for fucks sake. He's trying to improve his situation over there (albeit somewhat naive, you can just buy traffic radars). But no, your answer to this problem is that he should move? Move away from his nice apartment, friends, family etc. etc. just because the street he lives on is unsafe? It's like all those replies from people that if one part of you job sucks you should get another job. If you take that into the extreme, you will always have to move, since nothing is perfect.
Living conditions everywhere are a set of variables. You will always like one part better than the other. If you don't like anything, you will try and up the score or look for a place with a better score.
Hmm, looking at the article again, I must say that a 4 GB SSD is very very low. It might be that they just put a single flash chip (or maybe two) behind a SATA controller, put in the same package. In that case they should be shot for false advertising I suppose. Highest density flash chips are available around 64 GB currently.
That would, however, not explain the high throughput, especially for write actions. I don't know many flash drives that can handle 100 MB/s writes (of course, most are USB, so they won't go over 45 MB/s or so anyway).
"SATA SDHC RAID spotted [bit-tech.net]: " Impress were able to get a pretty impressive 111.4MB/s read and 55.2MB/s write when combining the device with six Transcend 8GB Class 6 SDHC cards."
That's a lot of expensive SD cards. Not even micro-SD cards for which higher HC classes are harder to find. This also just translates to 48 GB of memory, for which - in all proabability - none is set aside for wear leveling.
"That a feature or bug? I really don't like the idea of hard drives being soldered to motherboards "
It's not a hard drive, it's an SSD. SSD's have much less reasons for failure than hard drives. This device is clearly targeting smaller computing platforms, where space is at a premium. It's also much cheaper to do this than to somehow get an SSD on a motherboard.
"Article doesn't mention any of those features, I guess you're just assuming this will have all of those because other SSDs you've used had these features? "
Yes, because otherwise it would just be a flash drive, not an SSD. If you do a specialized RAID (which is what an SSD is) it does not make sense to use a sub-par controller. In the worst case they used one where performance drops significantly after many writes.
"If a manufacture took several MicroSDHC cards apart and put them in raid they would be as small as this solution."
That's what they did, except that they probably did not manufacture the SDHC cards first and did not just use a RAID controller. SDHC cards are also just flash with an IO interface.
You are now talking about "if a manufacture..." "if the manufacture raided several memory chips...". Apart from the spelling you are now defending your competing solution by inventing stuff that does not exist.
SSD's are specialized raids of flash chips, that present themselves as a single drive. Trying to make a generic one from SDHC cards is never going to match the performance and (more important) reliability of an SSD.
What, I don't benefit to see an ad: Whiskey: 25% off? And should not enjoy the add where a guy is trying to get a discount for a holiday standing right at the counter of the hotel?
Most of it is bunk. Most advertising is annoying. Generalizing that every commercial is bogus and irritating is a gross overstatement.