Oh, well, they could have been even more stupid: in high school I went to typing classes only to find out they preferred type-writers to computers. It took me 5 minutes to determine that the keyboard just didn't cut it. I've learned typing using a free "learn to type" application. Learning to type blinded on a nice, soft, computer keyboard instead of the clunky trash they used at school was much nicer.
I still have to give that application to my fellow programmers though. Gods, they are slow typing documentation. There are even a few "two fingered" typists, although that tend to be older guys.
Reasons why people are suckers for lists: - they split an article up in several evenly sized pieces - lists look like they contain serious information - lists are easy to remember than loose information - humans like to rate things
But: - but if the list contains elements that are only loosely coupled - or if the list is very incomplete - or if the information in the article is wrong or made up - or if the information in the list is made up of known facts
Then lists suck. The article is one of those lists. My lists have been constructed in a minute or so, so you may count them to the former or mod me informative. As long as you click on the minus sign in front of the summary.
If it is like ASCII text (or UTF-8 text with many ASCII characters) then this is easy: you just test how many times a byte representing a character is present. Values 30h to 39h and 61h to, er, 6Ah are lower case characters. Of these characters some are much more present than others, the letter e is most common. Binary data otoh tends to have a lot of bytes with value 00h, e.g. for representing signed positive numbers (and more commonly 32 bit encoded numbers with initial low values), NOP instructions, aligning, null terminated strings, default values etc. etc.. With the file command in Unix you can find many common file formats, XML and ASN.1 BER encoding (commonly used to wrap cryptographic messages) are very easy to identify as well. And sometimes you just know the start of the message anyway, because it has been standardized..
Thanks for dropping in Craig, but Slashdot tends to move at such a pace that an article, unless it gets hundreds of replies, dies off quite soon. I've had the same experience trying to respond to articles that directly relate to things that I'm an expert on. Most of the time you are too late to add anything to the discussion (well, you can add to it, but nobody will read it).
This is an opinion and should not be modded informative - interesting maybe, but not informative. I do think that starting with "I've got a bigger dick..." is a proper way to enter an argument but smoker2 has got a valid and more accepted argument and should definitely not be modded troll for it. Moderators seem to have lost their mojo off late.
Depends a lot on the tires as well. Cheap ones with a lot of plastic added to the rubber make much more noise than - what I call - proper tires. Nowadays you can even get cheap new cars with "fake" tires.
Yes, and you could actually integrate it into the north-bridge, if there still is a north-bridge of course. But there are quite a few hurdles of just integrating another processor, that has to use the same peripherals and memory. OS support would be needed as well (as I said in the posting above) since the Atom has quite a few other characteristics than an I7. That's why implementing an Atom like core into the CPU itself might make more sense. It would still be a very, very tricky thing to do.
What do you mean, "will find"? Adobe flash is already the single app using most of my computers power, simply because one page with a flash ad can take all the resources of a single CPU core.
You mean those devices with LED screens or multi-touch touchpads or SSD drives or smaller units without optical drive or devices with much longer battery life or Bluetooth/Wireless N or 500 GB laptop drives? Those with eSATA and HDMI connectors and high end cameras and microphone arrays? The ones with usable fingerprint reader devices?
Yes, I agree, no innovations to be found for those devices.
Add an SSD and a good I7 laptop will certainly blow the socks of most desktops out there. Laptops are now just a few MHz and disk spins away from desktops really. Add an SSD and this kind of processor and the gap is as good as gone. I'm already planning on using my PC just for development, my other tasks just don't need (cheap) 8GB of memory and a stack of hard drives.
I really like it when chips have small idle power usage, and this chip seems to run pretty cool when it is not taxed. Intel always had the lead in manufacturing capability, and it seems that this is one of the nice results.
I'm really waiting for the day when you (can) just leave your computer on at all times. Most of the times the chips are doing nothing anyway, so why should it use any power? Where is the technology to switch off memory banks when they are not used? Just page the stuff to my SSD (yes, I'm talking about the future here). Why don't processors have a small power efficient core for running the OS and applications at idle? Gigabit ethernet is getting power saving functions as well, and Wifi N has power saving features as well. Having the computer almost idling without having the fan of my PSU or processor switch on should be a killer feature.
One thing missing seems to be software support. I don't like it when my laptop drains much power just because one core is using 100% power because of a friggin flash ad on one of the tabs in my browser. We need more ways of restricting processes to use as many resources. What use is a computer that runs on almost no power when idle when it is never idling? And we'll need OS support for cores with different feature sets as well.
Which is weird since Rabobank is well known to be one of the first banks to offer electronic banking services over internet in the Netherlands, including devices from Vasco for security (one that accepts your bank card with chip/pin currently, and calculates a time based electronic signature for authentication and validating transactions.
My aunt does, or doesn't. She keeps the computer off most of the time because she don't think it is safe to use it other that to manage her money on internet saving accounts. By now, she's completely correct of course, I would not even recommend it for just browsing the bank site. Of course, banking would still be considered "useful task" by most, and since I am not the only one with a slightly world-illiterate aunt (as opposed to computer-illiterate, she's against TV too), I'm sure there will be similar cases.
I tried it once in an IBM shop on a main street in Amsterdam (gosh, that's a memory in itself). The default install had no applications in it whatsoever, at least none of which I could do anything with. After playing around on the computer for a while (trying out the horribly styled icons, dashed I believe and clicking through some barely understandable configuration items) I stopped my quest into OS/2. It may have been (is?) a great OS, but people buy computers to do things with applications. And people like eye candy and love hype (see: windows 95 and 98).
So basically I fully support your idea; OS/2 was just horrible, at least how it was marketed, as a desktop OS.
Well, coming out of suspend to RAM in Gentoo and just rebooting would be feasible I presume. That is, if suspend to RAM works for your machine. Vista may take too much time shutting down though.
As for the MP3 player, yes, never to be able to reset state is certainly a bad thing. I don't remember a single device I could not reboot. OK, sometimes the reset button wipes it to bare metal (e.g. my old Palm PDA - which you can restore from PC) or you have to look for the tiniest of holes to reset, but none have no reset option. Not being able to reboot at all is indeed over-confidence in technology.
Boot? What's a boot? Is it that thing my update manager requires me to do after updating? Just kidding of course, but my updates are now a few weeks behind for anything *but* my browser. Just because suspend to RAM is much to easy. This may be another reason why booting in more than 5 seconds is something that is accepted. In future computers I expect re-bootless updates and always on machines that don't use much power. And batteries that can suspend to RAM for weeks on end. Booting will become less common.
Thing with these kind of prices is that you start off with the off the shelf price - if any - and then negotiate the real price. And this final price is - of course - confidential otherwise clients start comparing prices on the internet. If he would post the price they would directly point to the company that was paying the price and signed the confidentiality contract.
True, but I haven't seen any incompatibility issues between draft N devices so far. If they did not comply to spec there would have been problems already. AFAIK (but I have to look it up) the last part of the N spec was most about advanced features.
Anyway, sorry for the harsh interruption (sometimes you need to shake things up on slashdot before they get noticed, but it is a bit unfair on the original poster.)
Come on guys! A single look at the website shows that this is a marketing stunt. It seems to me that there are quite a few "green" sites that are completely misleading.
Currently I am very suspicious of over-engineered websites like these. I remember the site of ThinFilm. Brilliant to look at, technically very interesting and technologically completely misleading (oh, the capacity that they could reach!). Now their main applications seem to be kids toys and RFID for which they are planning to use a few hundred bits.
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Oh, well, they could have been even more stupid: in high school I went to typing classes only to find out they preferred type-writers to computers. It took me 5 minutes to determine that the keyboard just didn't cut it. I've learned typing using a free "learn to type" application. Learning to type blinded on a nice, soft, computer keyboard instead of the clunky trash they used at school was much nicer.
I still have to give that application to my fellow programmers though. Gods, they are slow typing documentation. There are even a few "two fingered" typists, although that tend to be older guys.
Reasons why people are suckers for lists:
- they split an article up in several evenly sized pieces
- lists look like they contain serious information
- lists are easy to remember than loose information
- humans like to rate things
But:
- but if the list contains elements that are only loosely coupled
- or if the list is very incomplete
- or if the information in the article is wrong or made up
- or if the information in the list is made up of known facts
Then lists suck. The article is one of those lists. My lists have been constructed in a minute or so, so you may count them to the former or mod me informative. As long as you click on the minus sign in front of the summary.
If it is like ASCII text (or UTF-8 text with many ASCII characters) then this is easy: you just test how many times a byte representing a character is present. Values 30h to 39h and 61h to, er, 6Ah are lower case characters. Of these characters some are much more present than others, the letter e is most common. Binary data otoh tends to have a lot of bytes with value 00h, e.g. for representing signed positive numbers (and more commonly 32 bit encoded numbers with initial low values), NOP instructions, aligning, null terminated strings, default values etc. etc.. With the file command in Unix you can find many common file formats, XML and ASN.1 BER encoding (commonly used to wrap cryptographic messages) are very easy to identify as well. And sometimes you just know the start of the message anyway, because it has been standardized..
Thanks for dropping in Craig, but Slashdot tends to move at such a pace that an article, unless it gets hundreds of replies, dies off quite soon. I've had the same experience trying to respond to articles that directly relate to things that I'm an expert on. Most of the time you are too late to add anything to the discussion (well, you can add to it, but nobody will read it).
This is an opinion and should not be modded informative - interesting maybe, but not informative. I do think that starting with "I've got a bigger dick..." is a proper way to enter an argument but smoker2 has got a valid and more accepted argument and should definitely not be modded troll for it. Moderators seem to have lost their mojo off late.
Depends a lot on the tires as well. Cheap ones with a lot of plastic added to the rubber make much more noise than - what I call - proper tires. Nowadays you can even get cheap new cars with "fake" tires.
Yes, and you could actually integrate it into the north-bridge, if there still is a north-bridge of course. But there are quite a few hurdles of just integrating another processor, that has to use the same peripherals and memory. OS support would be needed as well (as I said in the posting above) since the Atom has quite a few other characteristics than an I7. That's why implementing an Atom like core into the CPU itself might make more sense. It would still be a very, very tricky thing to do.
What do you mean, "will find"? Adobe flash is already the single app using most of my computers power, simply because one page with a flash ad can take all the resources of a single CPU core.
Whhoooooossh! And whew-whew too. It's a car analogy :)
You mean those devices with LED screens or multi-touch touchpads or SSD drives or smaller units without optical drive or devices with much longer battery life or Bluetooth/Wireless N or 500 GB laptop drives? Those with eSATA and HDMI connectors and high end cameras and microphone arrays? The ones with usable fingerprint reader devices?
Yes, I agree, no innovations to be found for those devices.
Add an SSD and a good I7 laptop will certainly blow the socks of most desktops out there. Laptops are now just a few MHz and disk spins away from desktops really. Add an SSD and this kind of processor and the gap is as good as gone. I'm already planning on using my PC just for development, my other tasks just don't need (cheap) 8GB of memory and a stack of hard drives.
I really like it when chips have small idle power usage, and this chip seems to run pretty cool when it is not taxed. Intel always had the lead in manufacturing capability, and it seems that this is one of the nice results.
I'm really waiting for the day when you (can) just leave your computer on at all times. Most of the times the chips are doing nothing anyway, so why should it use any power? Where is the technology to switch off memory banks when they are not used? Just page the stuff to my SSD (yes, I'm talking about the future here). Why don't processors have a small power efficient core for running the OS and applications at idle? Gigabit ethernet is getting power saving functions as well, and Wifi N has power saving features as well. Having the computer almost idling without having the fan of my PSU or processor switch on should be a killer feature.
One thing missing seems to be software support. I don't like it when my laptop drains much power just because one core is using 100% power because of a friggin flash ad on one of the tabs in my browser. We need more ways of restricting processes to use as many resources. What use is a computer that runs on almost no power when idle when it is never idling? And we'll need OS support for cores with different feature sets as well.
Turbo Boost defines exactly what it does: propel it over other its lesser siblings.
Which is weird since Rabobank is well known to be one of the first banks to offer electronic banking services over internet in the Netherlands, including devices from Vasco for security (one that accepts your bank card with chip/pin currently, and calculates a time based electronic signature for authentication and validating transactions.
My aunt does, or doesn't. She keeps the computer off most of the time because she don't think it is safe to use it other that to manage her money on internet saving accounts. By now, she's completely correct of course, I would not even recommend it for just browsing the bank site. Of course, banking would still be considered "useful task" by most, and since I am not the only one with a slightly world-illiterate aunt (as opposed to computer-illiterate, she's against TV too), I'm sure there will be similar cases.
I tried it once in an IBM shop on a main street in Amsterdam (gosh, that's a memory in itself). The default install had no applications in it whatsoever, at least none of which I could do anything with. After playing around on the computer for a while (trying out the horribly styled icons, dashed I believe and clicking through some barely understandable configuration items) I stopped my quest into OS/2. It may have been (is?) a great OS, but people buy computers to do things with applications. And people like eye candy and love hype (see: windows 95 and 98).
So basically I fully support your idea; OS/2 was just horrible, at least how it was marketed, as a desktop OS.
Well, coming out of suspend to RAM in Gentoo and just rebooting would be feasible I presume. That is, if suspend to RAM works for your machine. Vista may take too much time shutting down though.
As for the MP3 player, yes, never to be able to reset state is certainly a bad thing. I don't remember a single device I could not reboot. OK, sometimes the reset button wipes it to bare metal (e.g. my old Palm PDA - which you can restore from PC) or you have to look for the tiniest of holes to reset, but none have no reset option. Not being able to reboot at all is indeed over-confidence in technology.
Boot? What's a boot? Is it that thing my update manager requires me to do after updating? Just kidding of course, but my updates are now a few weeks behind for anything *but* my browser. Just because suspend to RAM is much to easy. This may be another reason why booting in more than 5 seconds is something that is accepted. In future computers I expect re-bootless updates and always on machines that don't use much power. And batteries that can suspend to RAM for weeks on end. Booting will become less common.
Thing with these kind of prices is that you start off with the off the shelf price - if any - and then negotiate the real price. And this final price is - of course - confidential otherwise clients start comparing prices on the internet. If he would post the price they would directly point to the company that was paying the price and signed the confidentiality contract.
True, but I haven't seen any incompatibility issues between draft N devices so far. If they did not comply to spec there would have been problems already. AFAIK (but I have to look it up) the last part of the N spec was most about advanced features.
Anyway, sorry for the harsh interruption (sometimes you need to shake things up on slashdot before they get noticed, but it is a bit unfair on the original poster.)
Did you look at the picture of the fuel? It was green wasn't it? Well?
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Fixed that for you.
Come on guys! A single look at the website shows that this is a marketing stunt. It seems to me that there are quite a few "green" sites that are completely misleading.
Currently I am very suspicious of over-engineered websites like these. I remember the site of ThinFilm. Brilliant to look at, technically very interesting and technologically completely misleading (oh, the capacity that they could reach!). Now their main applications seem to be kids toys and RFID for which they are planning to use a few hundred bits.
True enough, but does that Adobe trap crash on IE as well? Yes, I know, unfair to FF. But users don't care about that.
FROM THE FUCKING ARTICLE AND A POST ABOVE.
For those who haven't read until the end of the boring article, let me just put in the last sentence:
"According to the Alliance, users can expect future Wi-Fi products to be fully compatible with todays products."
Moderators, wake up and read the actual article before modding anything up.
Nom du Keyboard indeed. Lire le Screen?