Maybe that's because "grok" is not in the dictionary.
That's a sarcastic way of pointing out that this sort of language perpetuates the problem.
I agree with you, but I chose that word precicely for illustrative effect.
As for time? That might actually be an achilles heel. An in-house rollout of open software would probably take more time than a outsourced rollout of commericial software, assuming of course, that it's the first time for the company to roll out the software, and the commercial company has done the rollout previously.
Cost: Cost of rollout of a commercial product is comparable or more than the cost of 3rd party support contracts for open software.
Risk Management: Buying proprietary software gives you support, but the support is with a monopoly supplier who can then choose to charge whatever it wishes down the road for both software upgrades and support. Tying yourself to a monopoly supplier is a poor risk, since every move a monopolist will make will not be for the benifit of your company, but for the benifit of thiers. Similarly, with Open Source, since our company has the right to modify the software, every change you make will be for the benifit of your company.
Upper Management does not grok Geek. Upper Management groks Dollars and groks Risk.
I got the new iPod anyway on the Friday when it came out. It's very cool - and I already like it better than my old CD-based MP3 player.
It's pricy, but I also saw the value in a portable hard drive that just happens to play music too.
Recording equipment would just make this my killer app - er... killer hardware. See, I'm studying journalism next semester, and my shorthand sucks. Inteviews recorded digitally - and archivable, would rock my box, even if it isn't actual rock music we're talking about.
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Although much of the conversation centers on the sci-fi work of Transmetropolitan, I've got a few observations on other projects.
1) Do you believe that the market for graphic novels and comics is charging a fair price? To get the complete Transmetropolitan, for example, would require an investment of well over $75 dollars on my part, and I find myself unable to get into it because I know I'll never be able to afford to find out how the story ends.
2) About Planetary: Many of the Planetary stories have introduced characters that fit a particular archetype of recent (20th century) literature. Unlike Moore's Leauge of Extraordinary Gentlemen, many of the "knock-off" characters, such as Doc Brass, and John Stone (Doc Savage and James Bond, respectively) Have you encountered any trouble with copyright holders for including these homages? Have you been able to get away with it because Planetary, as a comic, slips under the notice of the copyright holders?
3) Will we see other works in the same fourth-wave dystopia as Transmetropolitan in the future, even if it doesn't involve the same characters?
4) What exactly WAS Anna Hark doing at Science City Zero in 1950?
-- Funksaw.
Ha.
Let's face it, sure, sports are healthy, benificial and fun. Sports *culture* is not.
I don't play sports - never really did. But it's mostly because of two reasons:
1) While other kids were taught by their parents to please and to be popular and to be athletic, I was taught by my parents to get the answers right.
2) If you only treat sports as a "hobby," you can't be as good as those who treat it as an "obsession," and those with an obsession tend to belittle the "casual" sports player because they're not as good. As a result, the person who has a passing interest in sports gradually decides to throw it away.
3) Alot of sports parents - enough to make me uncomfortable - are loud, rude, and dangerous. I don't want to hang around them as a kid, and I wouldn't want my kid to hang around them as a parent.
I may be missing the point, but what is it about iCommune that was so different from sharing the files over a network via network protocols, anyway?
Since iTunes is a proprietary work, I'm not too upset by this - luckily, all iCommune needs to do to counter this is to produce an MP3 player better than iTunes, open source it, and they can very well do what they please. Just because iTunes is a proprietary MP3 player doesn't mean that it's the only possible one that'll work on the MacOSX platform.
Cool with going analogue, but if the player is finding themselves frustrated with the "endless battles for little reward" systems in Everquest, they're not likely to like D&D or D20 Modern.
There's also, ironically, a Pen & Paper version of Everquest...
There are so many good games out there though that would appeal. I guess I could point people to RPG.net.
Dave Matthews Band: Crash - (Too Much & Crash)
Bad Religion - Recipe for Hate - (Modern Day Catastrophists)
Crystal Method - Tweekend - (Murder)
Maybe that's because "grok" is not in the dictionary. That's a sarcastic way of pointing out that this sort of language perpetuates the problem.
I agree with you, but I chose that word precicely for illustrative effect.
As for time? That might actually be an achilles heel. An in-house rollout of open software would probably take more time than a outsourced rollout of commericial software, assuming of course, that it's the first time for the company to roll out the software, and the commercial company has done the rollout previously.
Wow. My first "5."
Anyway, most of that came from a speech Eric S. Raymond gave at my college. The Karma really belongs to him. -- Funksaw.
Talk about two things:
Cost: Cost of rollout of a commercial product is comparable or more than the cost of 3rd party support contracts for open software.
Risk Management: Buying proprietary software gives you support, but the support is with a monopoly supplier who can then choose to charge whatever it wishes down the road for both software upgrades and support. Tying yourself to a monopoly supplier is a poor risk, since every move a monopolist will make will not be for the benifit of your company, but for the benifit of thiers. Similarly, with Open Source, since our company has the right to modify the software, every change you make will be for the benifit of your company.
Upper Management does not grok Geek. Upper Management groks Dollars and groks Risk.
Just keep that in mind.
-- Funksaw.
QUOTE: You can kill people with a gun, but I haven't seen any lawsuit against S&W for creating a tool that can be used to commit a crime.
Actually, there have been several high profile suits of gun manufacturers for that express reason.
I think they're stupid too.
-- Funksaw.
Don't forget Funksaw! oh... wait.
I got the new iPod anyway on the Friday when it came out. It's very cool - and I already like it better than my old CD-based MP3 player.
It's pricy, but I also saw the value in a portable hard drive that just happens to play music too.
Recording equipment would just make this my killer app - er... killer hardware. See, I'm studying journalism next semester, and my shorthand sucks. Inteviews recorded digitally - and archivable, would rock my box, even if it isn't actual rock music we're talking about.
Although much of the conversation centers on the sci-fi work of Transmetropolitan, I've got a few observations on other projects. 1) Do you believe that the market for graphic novels and comics is charging a fair price? To get the complete Transmetropolitan, for example, would require an investment of well over $75 dollars on my part, and I find myself unable to get into it because I know I'll never be able to afford to find out how the story ends. 2) About Planetary: Many of the Planetary stories have introduced characters that fit a particular archetype of recent (20th century) literature. Unlike Moore's Leauge of Extraordinary Gentlemen, many of the "knock-off" characters, such as Doc Brass, and John Stone (Doc Savage and James Bond, respectively) Have you encountered any trouble with copyright holders for including these homages? Have you been able to get away with it because Planetary, as a comic, slips under the notice of the copyright holders? 3) Will we see other works in the same fourth-wave dystopia as Transmetropolitan in the future, even if it doesn't involve the same characters? 4) What exactly WAS Anna Hark doing at Science City Zero in 1950? -- Funksaw.
Ha. Let's face it, sure, sports are healthy, benificial and fun. Sports *culture* is not. I don't play sports - never really did. But it's mostly because of two reasons: 1) While other kids were taught by their parents to please and to be popular and to be athletic, I was taught by my parents to get the answers right. 2) If you only treat sports as a "hobby," you can't be as good as those who treat it as an "obsession," and those with an obsession tend to belittle the "casual" sports player because they're not as good. As a result, the person who has a passing interest in sports gradually decides to throw it away. 3) Alot of sports parents - enough to make me uncomfortable - are loud, rude, and dangerous. I don't want to hang around them as a kid, and I wouldn't want my kid to hang around them as a parent.
I may be missing the point, but what is it about iCommune that was so different from sharing the files over a network via network protocols, anyway?
Since iTunes is a proprietary work, I'm not too upset by this - luckily, all iCommune needs to do to counter this is to produce an MP3 player better than iTunes, open source it, and they can very well do what they please. Just because iTunes is a proprietary MP3 player doesn't mean that it's the only possible one that'll work on the MacOSX platform.
This is more molehill than mountain.
Cool with going analogue, but if the player is finding themselves frustrated with the "endless battles for little reward" systems in Everquest, they're not likely to like D&D or D20 Modern. There's also, ironically, a Pen & Paper version of Everquest... There are so many good games out there though that would appeal. I guess I could point people to RPG.net.