That's not VMware my friend, that is VNC. I bet he's running Windows NT on either his in machine under VMware and then using VNC to get to it, or running it on a remote machine.
In my experiance, displaying WinNT under VNC is slow... but VNC isn't known for it's speed.
I've had the same problem with FreeBSD and nvidia products. Currently, I have an old PCI TNT that I'd love to get working so I can do opengl stuff, watch DVD's, and play games (Quake 3, CounterStrike, etc) without having to reboot.
You can try kludging around with the nvidia drivers, but it didn't get me anywhere.
I do have a second monitor though attached to a G200 AGP however, and it plays DVD's full screen just fine, but it is way too slow for games.
I'm thinking of dumping my current TNT/G200 setup for a G450, any FBSD users try G450 for multimon/dvd/games?
You are right, it did require every player to have a cart. In the originial design from EYPX called "Handy", did have support for 1 cart multiplayer though.
They probably dropped this feature to save money on units AND to make more money on carts.
Too bad Atari is dead... (well, Atari corp. anyway).
Years ago when Parallel Port Zip Drives were all the rage (and $200!), I went out an bought one. The only reason I went for it was the whopping $50 rebate they offered, plus a nifty carrying case.
The form said "6 - 8 weeks" for delivery. No big deal I thought, having $50 pop up in the mail 2 months from now would be great.
6 months pass...
I eventualy got the rebate check, but only after finding out that IOmega had pissed off a large group in Colorado (I think), and had a class action lawsuit brought against them because of the long time it took to send out (or not send) rebates.
In the end, I got a coupon for $10 off the inflated price of zip disks at CDW.
Like other posters have said, rebates are a roll of the dice at times!
But if they use winlib to port their apps, wouldn't having d3d support only help them port? Sure, I could install a Windows game and run it under linux when this code matures, but it will never run as well as a native port. Using this code would help making porting to linux easier, wouldn't it?
3. Windows runs these games faster, and necessarily always will - emulation has to be slower, because there's two layers.
If you know anything about WINE, you'll know that WINE stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator.
It is not emulating, but rather using actual windows libraries through some sort of abstration layer.
Read though the WINE docs some time, they are doing some amazing things to get it to work. With the addition to D3d (did you see the fps they were getting?!), porting games to Linux will be so easy. Not to meantion FreeBSD...
Yes, the Internet has infact peaked. A good indication is Yahoo! porting it's services to the Minitel in France.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm firing up my old dos box, hooking up a 28.8 modem, and setting up my bbs. If this is the peak of the Internet, the decline will be dialing up my modem!
Your right, it isn't something that is new. At my school I have to redo our 20 Matlab licenses (among other software) every year or so on the Irix and NT machines. The problem is, as others in this forum have mentioned, is that Office is everywhere on campus. Reregistering 850 Windows 9x/NT PC's every 365 days would be a nightmare. A license key server would be part of the solution, but I have a feeling MS isn't going this route.
VMs can be created on Linux or NT, some rumor of BSD folks using it -- though I'm not certian.
I am running VMware under FreeBSD 4.1. Despite some weirdness (no full screen in XF86 4.0.1 because there is no DGA)(no bridged networking) it works just fine. A bit slow it seems, but I only have 128 MB of RAM. I think I should go out and try a copy of Win4Lin on my box. Err.. *ahem* Win4BSD:-)
As other people have commented, this is only for i386 Linux and FreeBSD. I have a lonesome Sparc Linux machine at work that would love to have a Yahoo branded chat client rather than the "Java" versions on the web or GTKYahoo!. (yes, I am aware of the open source nature of GTKYahoo and I probably should contribute, but until I do, they are moving along sloowly)
I'm new to non-i386 hardware, and I'm only now coming to terms with one of the other good points of open source: You aren't locked to one platform!
So, I suggest you do what I just did. Submit a kind note asking Yahoo! to either build a version for $OS on $PLATFORM, or better yet, ask them to GPL it:-)
I mean, Nintendo went to a lot of work to design the Game Boy hardware and all its upgrades (Pocket Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Dolphin), and there's a lot of R&D costs involved in that
Sure, there are a lot of R&D costs, but when they sell the hardware on the street I'll bet they either break even or take a loss. The games are where all the money is at, and in the long run th e cost of R&D will be recovered there.
But the availability of emulators sure makes it hard for companies to justify any kind of innovation, when they know that everything they do will become available for free anyway.
Two things here, first of all, how many games have you played in emulators? Often times the games have unstable sound, jittery graphics, or don't run at all. Second, the whole point of developing new consoles is to give home users a better gaming environment on dedicated hardware. Sure, you can put games on your PC, but then you have to have a fast enough processor, video, and enough ram to drive the game. At least with a console you know the game will run correctly on your system the first time, no brains needed.
Over the years there has seemed to be more and more bending of the rules on how domains should work. If I remember right, first it was the issue of.org,.net, and.com not being registered to the right kind of businesses or groups, then it was domains starting with a digit (2600.com), and now names ending with a "-"?
Standards are around for a reason folks, why don't poeple follow them when it comes to domains? It makes me wonder what other problems are down the road for domain names.
I can imagine the guy who registered "e-.com" fight to allow "-" at the end of domain names, and win. Who is going to be the one to fix telnet for this?
Slashdot Mirror
Any ideas if AtheOS will run under VMware so I can try it out?
The supported hardware says that only the Matrox cards and VESA 2.0 cards are supported.
Any hints?
That's not VMware my friend, that is VNC. I bet he's running Windows NT on either his in machine under VMware and then using VNC to get to it, or running it on a remote machine.
In my experiance, displaying WinNT under VNC is slow... but VNC isn't known for it's speed.
VMware + VNC = very slow, but still useful
When you first visit the site, they have a download section to the right. It states:
The following PDFs are available for download only.
Download only? What else would I do with them?
I've had the same problem with FreeBSD and nvidia products. Currently, I have an old PCI TNT that I'd love to get working so I can do opengl stuff, watch DVD's, and play games (Quake 3, CounterStrike, etc) without having to reboot.
You can try kludging around with the nvidia drivers, but it didn't get me anywhere.
I do have a second monitor though attached to a G200 AGP however, and it plays DVD's full screen just fine, but it is way too slow for games.
I'm thinking of dumping my current TNT/G200 setup for a G450, any FBSD users try G450 for multimon/dvd/games?
You are right, it did require every player to have a cart. In the originial design from EYPX called "Handy", did have support for 1 cart multiplayer though.
They probably dropped this feature to save money on units AND to make more money on carts.
Too bad Atari is dead... (well, Atari corp. anyway).
Years ago when Parallel Port Zip Drives were all the rage (and $200!), I went out an bought one. The only reason I went for it was the whopping $50 rebate they offered, plus a nifty carrying case.
The form said "6 - 8 weeks" for delivery. No big deal I thought, having $50 pop up in the mail 2 months from now would be great.
6 months pass...
I eventualy got the rebate check, but only after finding out that IOmega had pissed off a large group in Colorado (I think), and had a class action lawsuit brought against them because of the long time it took to send out (or not send) rebates.
In the end, I got a coupon for $10 off the inflated price of zip disks at CDW.
Like other posters have said, rebates are a roll of the dice at times!
I wonder what this means for my children?
But if they use winlib to port their apps, wouldn't having d3d support only help them port? Sure, I could install a Windows game and run it under linux when this code matures, but it will never run as well as a native port. Using this code would help making porting to linux easier, wouldn't it?
Observation #3 is incorrect:
3. Windows runs these games faster, and necessarily always will - emulation has to be slower, because there's two layers.
If you know anything about WINE, you'll know that WINE stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator.
It is not emulating, but rather using actual windows libraries through some sort of abstration layer.
Read though the WINE docs some time, they are doing some amazing things to get it to work. With the addition to D3d (did you see the fps they were getting?!), porting games to Linux will be so easy. Not to meantion FreeBSD...
Yes, the Internet has infact peaked. A good indication is Yahoo! porting it's services to the Minitel in France.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm firing up my old dos box, hooking up a 28.8 modem, and setting up my bbs. If this is the peak of the Internet, the decline will be dialing up my modem!
(Hint, sarcasm)
So what you are saying is, you are inviting all of your fellow slashdotters over to play video games?
I hope you have enough Atari consoles to go around.
Your right, it isn't something that is new. At my school I have to redo our 20 Matlab licenses (among other software) every year or so on the Irix and NT machines. The problem is, as others in this forum have mentioned, is that Office is everywhere on campus. Reregistering 850 Windows 9x/NT PC's every 365 days would be a nightmare. A license key server would be part of the solution, but I have a feeling MS isn't going this route.
What the hell is an Atari 7200? Is that like an Atari (7800 - 600)?
VMs can be created on Linux or NT, some rumor of BSD folks using it -- though I'm not certian.
:-)
I am running VMware under FreeBSD 4.1. Despite some weirdness (no full screen in XF86 4.0.1 because there is no DGA)(no bridged networking) it works just fine. A bit slow it seems, but I only have 128 MB of RAM. I think I should go out and try a copy of Win4Lin on my box. Err.. *ahem* Win4BSD
As other people have commented, this is only for i386 Linux and FreeBSD. I have a lonesome Sparc Linux machine at work that would love to have a Yahoo branded chat client rather than the "Java" versions on the web or GTKYahoo!. (yes, I am aware of the open source nature of GTKYahoo and I probably should contribute, but until I do, they are moving along sloowly)
I'm new to non-i386 hardware, and I'm only now coming to terms with one of the other good points of open source: You aren't locked to one platform!
So, I suggest you do what I just did. Submit a kind note asking Yahoo! to either build a version for $OS on $PLATFORM, or better yet, ask them to GPL it :-)
I mean, Nintendo went to a lot of work to design the Game Boy hardware and all its upgrades (Pocket Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Dolphin), and there's a lot of R&D costs involved in that
Sure, there are a lot of R&D costs, but when they sell the hardware on the street I'll bet they either break even or take a loss. The games are where all the money is at, and in the long run th e cost of R&D will be recovered there.
But the availability of emulators sure makes it hard for companies to justify any kind of innovation, when they know that everything they do will become available for free anyway.
Two things here, first of all, how many games have you played in emulators? Often times the games have unstable sound, jittery graphics, or don't run at all. Second, the whole point of developing new consoles is to give home users a better gaming environment on dedicated hardware. Sure, you can put games on your PC, but then you have to have a fast enough processor, video, and enough ram to drive the game. At least with a console you know the game will run correctly on your system the first time, no brains needed.
According to their website, no. It will run as a black and white game on a color palm, and Color GameBoy roms will not function in liberty.
Over the years there has seemed to be more and more bending of the rules on how domains should work. If I remember right, first it was the issue of .org, .net, and .com not being registered to the right kind of businesses or groups, then it was domains starting with a digit (2600.com), and now names ending with a "-"?
Standards are around for a reason folks, why don't poeple follow them when it comes to domains? It makes me wonder what other problems are down the road for domain names.
I can imagine the guy who registered "e-.com" fight to allow "-" at the end of domain names, and win. Who is going to be the one to fix telnet for this?